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 Christianity Etc › Re: For Frosbel, Ijawkid And Other Non Trinitarians by ijawkid(m): 7:40pm On Jun 16, 2013 |
deSika: good question.The funniest comment I've ever read..... Jesus rebuked the man immediately and asked that piercing question which is making you run in circles.... The funny thing is no one begged for Jesus' say on Goodness.....all Jesus did was show that the Father is all GOOD....... So Jesus asked the question and still was the one GOD in heaven who only is GOOD??.... That is you're saying Jesus just talks without direction as if he was on marijuana...... |
| Christianity Etc › Re: For Frosbel, Ijawkid And Other Non Trinitarians by ijawkid(m): 7:36pm On Jun 16, 2013 |
deSika: na to dey call you didier dodger now oPlease read the solomon aCcount there.... You are just quoting scriptures right left center without even going into real studying of texts and how the hebrew scriptures were written.. Like I said cyrus is the fellow who is sent.... The reading in that verse which sounds confusing to you is the same reading found in 1 kings 1:8....... Yahweh remains one Yahweh just like solomon remains 1 solomon..... Study the scriptures completely before exposing your ignorance.... There are similar examples of such texts which sound confusing but its just a normal Jewish hebrew style of writing..... You can read something similar in exodus 24:1...... |
| Christianity Etc › Re: For Frosbel, Ijawkid And Other Non Trinitarians by ijawkid(m): 7:06pm On Jun 16, 2013 |
deSika: you jumped thisOk I can now see your problem..... Na poor bible study dey kill you...sorry my bro.... Please after reading this verse explain it then shut up forever......  ...1 kings 8:1 ##..English Standard Version (©2001) Then"" Solomon"" assembled the elders of Israel and all the heads of the tribes, the leaders of the fathers’ houses of the people of Israel, before King"" Solomon"" in Jerusalem, to bring up the ark of the covenant of the LORD out of the city of David, which is Zion. ........ ##New American Standard Bible (©1995) Then"" Solomon"" assembled the elders of Israel and all the heads of the tribes, the leaders of the fathers' households of the sons of Israel, to King"" Solomon"" in Jerusalem, to bring up the ark of the covenant of the LORD from the city of David, which is Zion. .... ##..King James Bible (Cambridge Ed.) Then"" Solomon"" assembled the elders of Israel, and all the heads of the tribes, the chief of the fathers of the children of Israel, unto king ""Solomon"" in Jerusalem, that they might bring up the ark of the covenant of the LORD out of the city of David, which is Zion. ____________________________ Please how many solomons are in this verse quoted??......   |
| Christianity Etc › Re: For Frosbel, Ijawkid And Other Non Trinitarians by ijawkid(m): 6:52pm On Jun 16, 2013 |
deSika: oboy na wa for your non olodoness oRead them and compare them to the ones you have forwarded.... Read them...and after that compare it with Johns verbatim re-quote..... Use your head pan.... |
| Christianity Etc › Re: For Frosbel, Ijawkid And Other Non Trinitarians by ijawkid(m): 6:51pm On Jun 16, 2013 |
deSika: why do yu call me good is now equals to i am not good kwo, your non olodoness is not even standardSo did Jesus by any means tell the man he is that one God that should be called GOOD??.... Your olodoness no get part 2...... .....Jesus' reply has killed you... |
| Christianity Etc › Re: For Frosbel, Ijawkid And Other Non Trinitarians by ijawkid(m): 6:48pm On Jun 16, 2013 |
deSika: ohoi, so since it was directed to who, its not relevant kwo.E be like you get eye problem....chei..... So you believe in 3 Gods naaa......not 1 again.... ....Confused bobo... Where you see 3 Gods for the scripture you quote??...... Abeg go wear eye glass.... .....I can't see 2 Yahwehs in that verse....you get eye problem my bro... |
| Christianity Etc › Re: For Frosbel, Ijawkid And Other Non Trinitarians by ijawkid(m): 6:30pm On Jun 16, 2013 |
@desika....Johns verbatim re-quote of that verse exposes the truth as to that zechariah 12:10.... Please read those Jewish translations up there...... ...... |
| Christianity Etc › Re: For Frosbel, Ijawkid And Other Non Trinitarians by ijawkid(m): 6:28pm On Jun 16, 2013 |
@ desika look at these Jewish translations and get the point of zechariah 12:10 instead of projecting your strong headedness and ignorance..... Jewish Translations _____________________________ And I will pour upon the house of David, and upon the inhabitants of Jerusalem, the spirit of grace and of supplication; and they shall look unto Me because they have thrust him through; and they shall mourn for him, as one mourneth for his only son, and shall be in bitterness for him, as one that is in bitterness for his first- born. Jewish Publication Society. ______________________________ And I will pour out upon the House of David and the inhabitants of Jerusalem with a spirit of grace and supplications. And they shall look to me because of those who have been thrust through [with swords], and they shall mourn over it as one mourns over an only son and shall be in bitterness, therefore, as one is embittered over a firstborn son. Judaica Press NACH Series; translation by R' A. J. Rosenberg. ___________________________ But I will pour upon the house of David, and upon the inhabitants of Yerushalayim the spirit of grace and of supplication: and they shall look towards me, regarding those whom the nations have thrust through. And they shall mourn for him (that is slain) as one mourns for an only son, and shall be in bitterness over him, as one that is in bitterness for a firstborn. The Jerusalem Bible, Koren Publishing. ___________________________ And I will pour upon the house of David, and upon the inhabitants of Jerusalem, the spirit of grace and of supplication; and they shall look unto Me, because they have thrust him through; and they shall mourn for him, as one mourneth for his only son, and shall be in bitterness for him, as one that is in bitterness for his first-born. Soncino Books of the Bible; edited by R' Dr. A. Cohen. _______________________________ I will pour upon the house of David and upon the inhabitants of Jerusalem a spirit of grace and supplications. They will look toward Me because of those whom they have stabbed, they will mourn over him as one mourns over an only [child], and be embittered over him like the embitterment over a [deceased] firstborn. ArtScroll Stone Edition Tanach; ArtScroll/Mesorah. |
| Christianity Etc › Re: For Frosbel, Ijawkid And Other Non Trinitarians by ijawkid(m): 6:24pm On Jun 16, 2013 |
benalvino: the question I ask you is Jesus bad? you better say yes o you don already call am idol o they you say he is not completely good earlier... would you take back this words?Jesus is not bad....neither is he all GOOD..... Jesus rebuked the man who called him rabbi,and reminded the man that there is only one who is GOOD....... Jesus was only showing that man that he recognizes the Father as all and all in all ramifications with GOODness inclusive...... Got the point??...... And I have told you ,your reasoning on this false God issue is not in complete allignment with the scriptures....... As long as one isn't my GOD,he or she can be refered to as God without being a false GOD........... Don't you get this point??....... |
| Christianity Etc › Re: For Frosbel, Ijawkid And Other Non Trinitarians by ijawkid(m): 5:46pm On Jun 16, 2013 |
deSika: @ Ijawkid |
| Christianity Etc › Re: For Frosbel, Ijawkid And Other Non Trinitarians by ijawkid(m): 5:45pm On Jun 16, 2013 |
deSika: @ IjawkidChei I don die for this explanation.....you be first class olodo..... Please when you are off the alomo bitters you're drinking kindly read the bolded...... Someone just called Jesus good rabbi and Jesus' knee jerk reaction was with the question in the bolded.... How you want to twist this clear statement and retort upside down is what is baffling.... Never knew you to be a patholigical liar .... |
| Christianity Etc › Re: For Frosbel, Ijawkid And Other Non Trinitarians by ijawkid(m): 5:42pm On Jun 16, 2013 |
deSika: Ijawkid dont you just love thisDo you know that this verse was directed to cyrus the medo persian king??... Smh for your olodoness...... And what is it with this verse...??....of what use is it to this discussion?? |
| Christianity Etc › Re: For Frosbel, Ijawkid And Other Non Trinitarians by ijawkid(m): 5:39pm On Jun 16, 2013 |
deSika: bro what are you saying, you are really far gone. so you are trying to say that johns gospel shows you the right word because of the holy spirit and Zechariah uses the wrng word because he does not have the Holyspirit abi.How can you say there is no difference between the reference jOhn made as regards zechariah 12:10 which he quoted verbatim and the actual verse at zechariah 12:10 from some trinitarian renderings??..... Please open that john and read if it doesn't differ from zechariah 12:10....... And I even quoted from other trinitarian renderings to show the truth.....even fellow trinitarians know this verse in zechariah was rendered wrongly because its infact contradictory... Because after stabbing Yahweh according to the renderings you presented,they would now look at another person and mourn for that person..... .....isn't that madness??....Crazy bro!!!...... Even the verse itself is contradictory...... John re-quoted that verse verbatim and said something different.... You guys have to make adjustments....... |
| Christianity Etc › Re: "Firstborn" Does It Mean First Created? Jehovah's Witness! by ijawkid(m): 5:25pm On Jun 16, 2013 |
benalvino: and yet Philippians 2:5-11 says he made him self that way.Do you know Jesus' humility is obvious when it is viewed from our own lens??..... From Gods stand point Jesus was obedient..... it is like saying me obeying Jesus' commands or words is solely because I am humble,not because Jesus is my superior and has the right to lay down commands for me to adhere to......... Do you know christians are doing the will of Christ and not there own will even if there humility is 100 percent??.... We obey Jesus because he is the head of us........ Please read 1 corinthians 11:3 and adjust your thinking..... |
| Christianity Etc › Re: "Firstborn" Does It Mean First Created? Jehovah's Witness! by ijawkid(m): 5:21pm On Jun 16, 2013 |
benalvino: how is it rubbish? you can be biased as you want... but he emptied him self and took the form of a man. lol you don come with another excuse? read john 1:1 and stop drinking Kool-Aid. we always say he is distinct from the father. the bible says he didn't consider equality with GOD but he dropped his deity... you cant wrestle with the scriptures...Emptied himself and then after he filled up himself did he stop obeying the same person who sent him??... Do you knw that from your stiff stance we can conclude it wasn't the Father who sent Jesus....abi??..... How could Jesus have considered equality with God a thing to hold on to when he isn't like satan who infact thought it not robbery to be equal with GOD.... ...That's the difference there between Jesus and satan........one was obedient and the other wanted to be viewed as GOD.. benalvino: Jesus come to show us the way to the father because we need salvation... to get to the father first you have to get to Jesus... now you know why Jesus is the power of GOD.. that is why you will honor the son equally as you honor the father... that last day Jesus will get all his power and authority. cause it was made for him.Why did he have to come to show us to get to the Father??....why is the Father important if Jesus out of his own volition alone came to the earth??.. You said Jesus would get all the power,but behold he would still remain subject to the Father has he has always been.... You are the one confused here...please read 1 corinthians 15:24-28 if you have still not gotten any point from this discussion.. benalvino: na you dribble your self cos u no understand GOD... Jesus call him self GOD almighty you say na lie... alpha n omega u say na lie...No....I insist Jesus was only refered to as first and last in revelation....... You guys have chosen not to be able to differentiate the Father from his son and servant.... benalvino: why him choose? na me you they ask? there is a bible verse that tells you it was because of your sin. he came to save you... if you wan know why wait when the trumpet blow you ask am...Why na Jesus come earth??...why no be the Father come??......why na Jesus come??... And as Jesus na equal with God whi him come be son of the Father instead of mayb the brother to the Father or maybe a cousin or twin brother??...... Do you realize you are saying Jesus only came to the earth because of his own will and not because its the Fathers will??....do you realize you are spewing jargons??..... benalvino: very silly questions at the end... was there anything jesus disobeyed the father or the father did same to the son?Answer it..... Is Jesus not still under the will of his Father??...is Jesus now acting on his own originality as we speak??..... Isn't Jesus still subject to the Father??.... |
| Christianity Etc › Re: Is It Right To Honour Or Worship Mary The Mother Of Jesus? by ijawkid(m): 4:24pm On Jun 16, 2013 |
striktlymi: I guess you prefer the doctrine of sleeping with a woman that is not your wife shey? ....... |
| Christianity Etc › Re: "Firstborn" Does It Mean First Created? Jehovah's Witness! by ijawkid(m): 4:17pm On Jun 16, 2013 |
benalvino: cant you see that verse shows he was fully GOD as the father... but he did not consider that an become a man... he dropped his deity he became man from that moment... and can do nothing without the deity of his father dwelling in him.The bolded is the most rubbish and inconsistent answer my eyes have ever beheld...... first of all Jesus was in the form of God,he wasn't God himself or equal to the God he was in form of......I cannot be in the form of adam and claim I am adam or adams equal..... Why should Jesus come to show us the way to the Father??...why the Father...??...does this Father ring a bell in you head as the one true GOD alone??... ....Jesus should have just shown us the way to himself and then full stop........ What surprises me is how you guys dribble yourselves into madness...... Why did Jesus amongst the 3 Gods who are co-equal choose to be the one who is humble and to be sent??... Is the Father and the holy spirit proud or what??...has Jesus stopped obeying the Father now that he is back to heaven??......has The Father stopped been superior to Jesus??.... |
| Christianity Etc › Re: For Frosbel, Ijawkid And Other Non Trinitarians by ijawkid(m): 4:06pm On Jun 16, 2013 |
benalvino: I have told you what Godhead mean... it means deity. what do you understand by it? if been blabbing about that but haven't made a statement about it.Lol....Godhead means the divine qualities of God.......so when you say Jesus is part of a God head or the Father is part of the Godhead it sounds ridiculous and funny..... Who made Jesus deity by nature.??.....is it not the Father??....... And may I remind u that those who would be going to heaven will be filled with Gods(Thr Father) divine qualities,only not to the degree of that of Jesus.....?? benalvino: now do you know the King of righteousness?Question wey I ask you to make you think well when others are called God na him u dey ask me back??..... Jesus isn't bad neither is he all Good like the Father...the Father alone is all GOOD..... Got the point??.....we heard it from Jesus' mouth.....I would take Jesus' words ahead of yours .... ...benalvino: am not dancing around your eyes are holding... you they call Jesus bad man. lol read my post again but this time open your eyes...Lol.....I no call am bad man...I bin ask you if na bad man since him say only GOD good so that you go get my point when I say others been called Gods(even by the Father) does not mean they are false Gods... benalvino: GOD say apart from him there is no GOD... the angels are not gods is people like you who make them.. you can make a stick your god.The angels are called Gods in the scripture.....they are refered to as "EL".. And we are proclaimed as Gods in the scriptures by the Most High himself...... I can call you God doesn't mean you are my GOD.... Get the gist??.... ...benalvino: worship is worship which exclusive you they talk... Jesus receive worship. which kind exclusive business you they talk here?David received worship alongside Yahweh from the isrealites...... There is exclusive worship which only the Father recieves.....that is why Jesus himself worships/worshipped the Father...... That is why Jesus calls the Father ""MY GOD" .......... Don't you just like that??... benalvino: paul made it clear no be just now you call the father lord? the son is called GOD too yet there is one GOD... and one LORD you no they understand?And who is the one GOD??.... Please tell me........ Is it not the Father alone??... Even after showing why Jesus is called the one Lord and also who made him Lord you still remain stubborn... benalvino: One alpha and omegaAnd how many king of kings do we have??...... benalvino: leave this gods matter you no get say there... the bible made it clear that other gods are false... gods of the people are idol. GOD say you must not seek salvation from any god. that he is a jealous GOD... why you they try to make JESUS false god?Na you dey push me to call Jesus false God.... .....God was Jealous but still made moses God over moses and aaron....... ....benalvino: angels are false gods... contradict your self you hear... if you are not the true GOD you are a false god... there is no 2 ways about it.If the angels are false Gods so is Jesus and all of us........ The one true God is the one who sent Jesus and he is the Father....... Did God proclaim the people he called Gods false??...... As long as I know those persons aren't my God they are fit to be called God..... benalvino: any made god is a false god... Moses was made a god he is a made god so he is a false god... 2 ways about it... either you are a true GOD or false. which category your angels and men fall add the woods too... abeg answerLmao.....yeah God made a false God called moses.... .....My bro stick to the one GOD the Father....... Remember...he is the GOD of Gods....... benalvino: you will call jesus a false god? lmao your own no good if na so. people will be worshipping a false god. you do well...He is not the Father and so would be called a false God if you decide not to understand scriptures....... And mind you Jesus isn't my GOD...the GOD of Jesus is my GOD benalvino: of course he is a God to anything you call god with your mouth. Example your god may be a wood to me... and my God will not be God to you... but he is the GOD of what ever you choose to call your god... wood or store... he created every thing.And the one GOD caused Jesus' existence......Jesus exists because of that one GOD the Father....... Remember .... Yahweh our GOD is one Yahweh... It seems you have chosen to be adamant and not acknowledge the GOD of Jesus as the one GOD(The Father) |
| Christianity Etc › Re: Is It Right To Honour Or Worship Mary The Mother Of Jesus? by ijawkid(m): 3:08pm On Jun 16, 2013 |
Yes it is good to worship her....isn't she the mother of GOD??.......  ...... |
| Christianity Etc › Re: For Frosbel, Ijawkid And Other Non Trinitarians by ijawkid(m): 2:57pm On Jun 16, 2013 |
deSika: @ IjawkidHow dubious of you to had quoted malachi 3:1 incompletely..... New International Version (©2011) "I will send my messenger, who will prepare the way before me. Then suddenly the Lord you are seeking will come to his temple; the messenger of the covenant, whom you desire, will come," says the LORD Almighty. 1....We have the LORD almighty(Yahweh) 2...We have the messenger who would prepare a place... 3...We have the messenger of the covenant..... Did you miss number 3??,,, You dubious desika... |
| Christianity Etc › Re: For Frosbel, Ijawkid And Other Non Trinitarians by ijawkid(m): 2:51pm On Jun 16, 2013 |
deSika: then thisLet us also review some major translations translated by Trinitarian Greek scholars: 1...they shall look on him whom they have thrust through, and they shall mourn for him (NAB) 2...they will look at the one whom they stabbed to death (TEV: Todays English Version) 3....they will look at the one whom they have pierced (The Jerusalem Bible) 4...they shall look on him whom they stabbed (Moffatt) 5...they shall look at him whom they have stabbed (American Translation, Goodspeed) 6...when they look on him whom they have pierced, they shall mourn for him (RSV/NRSV) Also let's look at how the apostle John referenced zecharia 12:10... And again another Scripture says, "They shall look to him whom they pierced." (John 19:37). The reading of Zechariah 12:10 which John knows is not "they shall look upon ME" but "they shall look upon HIM." (or more literally, "to whom they pierced." .Indeed, the reading "him" (or "whom" instead of"me" also appears in some Hebrew manuscripts (F.F. Bruce, History of the Bible in English, pages 199, 200, Lutterworth Press, 1979, third edition). If one takes the position that the Holy Spirit inspired each and every word which John wrote, then one also must insist that the Holy Spirit is confirming to us which reading of Zechariah 12:10 is the correct reading. Otherwise, one must then conclude the Holy Spirit inspired John to quote a mistaken reading of Zechariah 12:10. Even further to the point, John quotes Psalm 34:20, "not a bone of his will be broken." This is a reference to a human being and John quotes this verse along with Zechariah 12:10. It is plainly evident that John had humanity, not divinity, in mind when he quotes these two verses. In other words, John quoted both of these passages in reference to Jesus as a man. John 19:36 strongly suggests that there is no possibility that John himself perceived Zechariah 12:10 as referring to Jesus as Yahweh in any respect. Learn to use your senses...... |
| Christianity Etc › Re: For Frosbel, Ijawkid And Other Non Trinitarians by ijawkid(m): 2:45pm On Jun 16, 2013 |
benalvino: lol jesus was a bad person?Righteousness is obedience to God's Law. Since God made all laws (James 4:12), He is Supreme Ruler or King. He determines what righteousness is. "All thy commandments are righteousness" (Psalm 119:172). When speaking of one of the points of that Law, Jesus placed Himself superior to it. He is Lord of the Sabbath (Mark 2:28). No man is Lord or King over God's Law. Only God could be! All human beings have sinned and broken that Law of righteousness (Romans 3:23).[/quote]Please did Jesus mention Godhead in his statement or he mentioned the ONE GOD??.......smh!!!... Please what do you understand by Godhead??....Christ isn't part of any Godhead....do you think Godhead is like a 3 way manifold or a funnel??....chei!!!..... Jesus made it clear that the Father is all good excluding himself...stop dancing around...... No dancing can get you out of this.... And need I remind you that the Father is LORD over Christ.... So absorb that.. benalvino: the flesh is sin in nature... Only GOD is good...Dance around and come back to the fact that only the Father is all good and Jesus made it clear.... benalvino: yes paul was referring to other gods as idols... read to verse 7. God made it clear that other gods are false gods wetin they do you? you don forget wetin God talk? He says you shall not worship other Gods before me Jesus is being worshipped... I sorry how you are trying so hard to deny the deity of Christ... Him be GOD there is nothing you can do... no matter how you twist and turn things upside down you still return to the fact that jesus is GOD and this is how it is.Meaning the angels are false Gods... Its good you added the clause "worship"....and when I say worship I mean worship exclusive to GOD.... Paul has made it clear that the one God is the Father....Jesus isn't the Father so take ya trinity gibberish to the nearest dustbing.... benalvino: "For all the gods of the peoples are idols, but the LORD made the heavens." (1 Chronicles 16:26).Where u quoted Jah says we must not go after any other God...did 1 corinthians 8:6 suugest that we go after other Gods or it was acknowledging the fact that there are other divine beings called God??.... You are just quoting and not understanding.... The angels are refered to as Gods,are they false Gods??.... God once told moses that he would be God to pharoah and aaron....was God not thinking before he said those words to moses....??.... benalvino: just because you no wan call Jesus GOD no mean say you go say we be god...And Yes if I am to take your exegesis then I would have to call Jesus a false God and all the angels.... Are you satisfied??since you seem not to be reasoning well from the scriptures.... Read john 17:3 and joshua 22:22... benalvino: Psalm 82:6-8You are God my bro benalvino....you are a son of the most high and so you are GOD......swallow that fact.... benalvino: "But I have been the LORD your God ever since you came out of Egypt. You shall acknowledge no God but me, no Savior except me. Jesus is also the savior...Acts 5:31... English Standard Version (©2001) God exalted him at his right hand as Leader and Savior, to give repentance to Israel and forgiveness of sins. God made/ appointed Jesus as saviour through which he would save mankind....once again Jesus is the agent through which God works out salvation for all... So God the Father still remains the almighty saviour who kick starts the salvation process... Let me show you in the past that God had also aPpointed saviours or redeemers to save his people.... Judges 3:15 GOD'S WORD® Translation (©1995) Then the people of Israel cried out to the LORD for help. The LORD sent a savior to rescue them. It was Ehud, a left-handed man from the tribe of Benjamin. (Ehud was the son of Gera.) The people sent him with their tax payment to King Eglon of Moab. _____________________________ Look again at how Jesus was sent too as a savior for Gods people..... 1 john 4:14 New Living Translation (©2007) Furthermore, we have seen with our own eyes and now testify that the Father sent his Son to be the Savior of the world. ___________________________ Learn to read the scriptures completely....... benalvino: "This is what the LORD says-- Israel's King and Redeemer, the LORD Almighty: I am the first and I am the last; apart from me there is no God.Lol... Read my retort before this reply.... Yahweh still remains the source of salvation through out history... All he does is send his servants or representatives as saviours or redeemers to do his biddings.... Got that??... Yahweh our God is one Yahweh and remains the one God the Father.... Stop this trinity dribbling.... |
| Christianity Etc › Re: About The Trinity by ijawkid(m): 12:14pm On Jun 16, 2013 |
frosbel: Indeed only God can forgive sins, but he also gave this authority to his SON who is actually Messiah the Christ and future judge of the world.By this scripture we can 100 percent infer that the apostles are GOD too..... Trinitarians barely understands what it means when someone is given authority to do something......... ......I have told them......the more they try to equate Jesus with his God and Father the more they are equating man(all of us) with Jesus........ Jesus once said Just as the Father sent Him,so he is sending his disciples........ It said God is greater than Jesus that is why he could send Jesus,but trinitarians say NOOOO........that Jesus was just the humble person amongst the trio combination(maybe the Father and the holy spirit were proud.. ) that's why he came to the earth......Now Jesus has sent us,I believe Jesus is not greater than us... ....... Or mayb we are just humble that's why we obey Jesus' words.... 2 Likes |
| Christianity Etc › Re: For Frosbel, Ijawkid And Other Non Trinitarians by ijawkid(m): 11:20am On Jun 16, 2013 |
benalvino: yet there is one lord Jesus... so do you say the father is not lord? oya run from it... the father is called GOD Jesus is called GOD... Jesus Stop being GOD and took flesh he became a man.... now the question is the kind of GOD jesus is a false god? the bible says the father did not create any god and there is no GOD beside him... yet Jesus is GOD john 1:1 and many more... so how are you going to answer that? it is heaven for you to accept that he is God... then you cook the word ok he is mighty God not almighty... yet the father is mighty and almighty then in revelations no just once jesus says he is God almighty... na you know how you they belittle Jesus...If Jesus isn't the Father then you have to find out what kind of God he is......... Then read 1 corinthians 8:6 and fix him in the many GODs that are evoked in that verse....but to us there is but one GOD the Father...if you've agreed Jesus isn't the Father and you're sure of it then its high time you discard the trinity dogma...its of no use holding on to it..... You say Jesus stopped being God,but soon you would say it was still GOD who came in flesh.....can you people just be consistent for once??....... You asked the question if the kind of God Jesus is,if he is false..... Abi??... Please when you read 1 corinthians 8:6 did paul say the other persons who are called Gods are false Gods??...... When Jesus re-quoted and re-iterated that men are Gods did he say they were false Gods??..... The angels are refered to as" EL",are they false Gods... When Jesus said only GOD is Good,did he mean everyother person including himself(Jesus) was a bad person...??.... NO...... What you have to realize and come to an acknowledgement is that the Father is the one person who is everything and almighty In every way ...... 1..The Father alone is all Good... 2...The Father alone is all powerful.. 3...The Father alone has the highest authority (Jesus under the Fathers authority) 4..The Father alone is all knowing... 5...The Father alone is the GOD of Gods Please read this scripture.. Joshua 22:22 King James Bible (Cambridge Ed.) The LORD God of gods, the LORD God of gods, he knoweth, and Israel he shall know; if it be in rebellion, or if in transgression against the LORD, (save us not this day,) Young's Literal Translation 'The God of gods -- Jehovah, the God of gods -- Jehovah, He is knowing, and Israel, he doth know, if in rebellion, and if in trespass against Jehovah (Thou dost not save us this day!) Please acknowledge Yahweh as the God of over all Gods........ Please abeg you...... |
| Christianity Etc › Re: For Frosbel, Ijawkid And Other Non Trinitarians by ijawkid(m): 9:57am On Jun 16, 2013 |
And Jesus being first and last is linked to his death and ressurection....... Totally different from when the Father is called first and last...... Smh!!!.... |
| Christianity Etc › Re: For Frosbel, Ijawkid And Other Non Trinitarians by ijawkid(m): 9:54am On Jun 16, 2013 |
benalvino: Same goes the other way... Beg him to make the father the one lord squeeze compress too... The fact that Jesus dropped is deity and became man isn't enough explaination for you? The plural God in the Hebrew scriptures no teach you anything?Do you know you are being stubborn here with clear cut out truth??....... Now ask yourself... Our argument is who is the one true GOd.....paul has shown it is not made up of 3 persons like you and your ilks propose....he says only the Father is the one GOD........ Now is Jesus and the holy spirit the Father??...... This is the only way you can get out of this problem.....and when you do we welcome you to modalism...... ......There is no need to squeeze Yahweh who is the one God into the one Lord,because paul was projecting the truth that Jesus has been made the Lord of the church,while as paul still knows Yahweh is the Lord over Christ...(1 corinthians 11:3)...... Paul was emphasizing on the fact that the one GOD is one being and one person....and there is nothing trinitarians can do to disrupt this truth..... We have asked for Just one scripture that says Gods is one being but 3 persons.......... We have waited for ages and no scripture to support that LIE....... Paul has given the right retort to trinitarians and here you are dancing around with the title Lord,just because Jesus was exalted to that position...... Na bad thing GOD do to elevate him son??...... Smh!!!!!!!!......... Acts 2:36 36 “Therefore let all Israel be assured of this: God has made this Jesus, whom you crucified, both Lord and Messiah.” Please see the reason why Jesus is recognized as the one Lord and why the one GOD remains the Father........ If you feel like arguing further read 1 corinthians 11:3...... |
| Christianity Etc › Re: Trinitarian Disrespect For God by ijawkid(m): 1:48am On Jun 16, 2013 |
shdemidemi: James is right, no man can tempt God... Can you comprehend what God did as Christ, He became flesh(man). Was he tempted as a man ? yes, did he die as a man? Yes, Why could he not sin? He could not sin because He was not born by a man and a woman having sex hence, he has no sin/adamic nature like you and I. Unlike Christ man as two natures, a sin nature and a righteous nature.Please reconcile the bolded with philippians 2:5-8 which you quote when you are faced with thought provoking questions........ If Jesus abandoned his real self in heaven(abandoned his memory and suFfered from amnesia) how come was he still God in flesh ??......... |
| Christianity Etc › Re: Trinitarian Disrespect For God by ijawkid(m): 1:45am On Jun 16, 2013 |
shdemidemi: My friend, study Philip 2:5-8 that I pasted to you. You would understand what God did through ChristAsk yourself why God didn't do it through the Father or why Christ didn't do it through the Father....... Phillipians 2:5-8 get out of jail card....... |
| Christianity Etc › Re: For Frosbel, Ijawkid And Other Non Trinitarians by ijawkid(m): 1:43am On Jun 16, 2013 |
deSika: the father is one God, does not remove the fact that the son is one God, the Spirit is one God. In the end you have one God.Oboy come and prove the above gibberish with Just a scripture..... .....I dey wait...... |
| Christianity Etc › Re: For Frosbel, Ijawkid And Other Non Trinitarians by ijawkid(m): 1:41am On Jun 16, 2013 |
benalvino: There is one lord Jesus and the father is lord yet there is one lord simple... ....You for beg paul to just make Jesus the one GOD or make him for squeeze or compress the Father,Jesus and the holy spirit inside the one God,then maybe later substitute the one Lord of the church with Olumba or the pope..... ....You for like am like that??....... ..... |
| Christianity Etc › Re: For Frosbel, Ijawkid And Other Non Trinitarians by ijawkid(m): 9:32pm On Jun 15, 2013 |
benalvino: but the bible say jesus is the one lord... you no gree jesus to be the one God with the father but you want the father to be the one lord with jesus... clap for you selfHave you not been shown how Jesus was made the one Lord and what and who he would be Lording over??..... Please at least try to acknowledge the God and Father of Jesus as the one God and stop this dribbling...... |
| Christianity Etc › Re: For Frosbel, Ijawkid And Other Non Trinitarians by ijawkid(m): 8:46pm On Jun 15, 2013 |
benalvino: 1 corinthians 8:6The Father is the Lord over Jesus......so you have no damn point.... The Father made Jesus Lord over the church and so Jesus Christ is mentioned as the one Lord..... Now Jesus and the Father are put together and you see clearly who the one GOD is...... Acts 2:36 36 “Therefore let all Israel be assured of this: God has made this Jesus, whom you crucified, both Lord and Messiah.” Why ona dey behave like children??........... Cheiii..... |
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