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benalvino: I thought itsfact told you that it is active force?
why is the name your problem? the holy spirit is called God or the spirit of God what difference does it make?

Lol......na ona sabi...........holy spirit is not called GOD....and God is nobodies name........abi ona no knw wetin name mean again??....

benalvino: all you know is to take words out of context... he show them how to pray...

you are asking why did jesus call his father is God... if he came to show us the way what do you expect him to do?

I keep asking who is jesus?
a angel?
a man?
a god?

no one wants to answer...

you said the bible says the angels are like God and you bring verse... I quote the verse you brought that no where it says angels are like God...

whether you like it or not... Jesus change his nature because of us. he became weak as a man and depends on his father.

Why should me wey be a co-equal God call my mate MY God and not Just God......

Even if God chooses to change his nature into a mosquito how should that stop him from being God??.........

Jesus is still in the heavens depending on God for everything.....God exalts him to the position he is.....God still gives him revelation.......

What do you people want from the Father again to show is greater than Jesus and that Jesus is his son and servant and messenger.....what!!!!!!!

twosquare: nw I truly see u hav no light. U can't see and very blind. Anyway, it has been said that nt every1 dat looks see.lyk I said d other time, u are a suckling, nt even a baby.... nt 2 even classify u as a children..... I can't imagine dat som pple can't comprehend diz tins...nt surprised.... sinced dats wat has been programmed in2 dia brain as a kid in their 'halls'

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Oya you wey be adult wey dey swallow eba tell me the name of the holy spirit and where he is in the heavens.........

Boomark: Yam nko?

Which one is the head of the other?

I think WATER the solid should be the head of all the waters..........smh!!!!!!!..........

shdemidemi: This one is just flying every where, talking like carnal man. Christ was given a format the people should pray, you would still add that to your defence.

And after giving the format he exempted himself from it abi??....when not long after that he prayed to that same Father.......

It baffles me how u people want to bring down God the Father of all.........it baffles me.......

You guys are insulting Yahweh and don't even know it......

Na this girl sing pass for nigeria.....I too like her.......

benalvino: And the title About God and Lord king and Kings is for Only the father and son... it says there is only one lord and one God... yet am asking why are there 2 Lord and 2 God... 2 alpha and Omega?

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after I quote this scripture you better ruminate on it before you finish yourself with title issues......

Acts 5:31....

New Living Translation (©2007)
Then God put him in the place of
honor at his right hand as Prince
and Savior. He did this so the
people of Israel would repent of
their sins and be forgiven.

English Standard Version
(©2001)
God exalted him at his right hand
as Leader and Savior, to give
repentance to Israel and
forgiveness of sins.


God making,appointing or exalting his servants to bear titles that He (God) bears or wants them to act as does not in any way now negate the fact that God remains the oga kpatakpata over all...........

That verse is also for people who are confused as to the fact why God says he is the saviour and then Jesus says he is too.......

God does the appointing......he appoints whom ever he wants to fulfill his purposes...........

God appointed Jesus as Lord over man(1 corinthians 11:3) and over the church and so paul recognized that...........that is why paul confirms that at 1 corinthians 8:6.........and paul still makes the clear distinction between Jesus and God the Father,that the one God is the Father alone and that Jesus is subordinate to Him........

Don't get it twisted........

Jehovah our God is one Jehovah and not 3 persons of which the last purported person has no name............

Stick to this truth benalvino.........

benalvino: except that he is king of kings to the nations he has conquered... he is not the king of kings from heaven reach ground earth... he is not the king of all the kings on earth... he is just a king of king from one or 2 nations he captured.

But he was king of kings...since title is what you want to hold on to,,,,...

Isn't it??....since na title you wan chop this evening.......

I will ask you again??....wasn't Jesus appointed by his God to be Lord??..........

Itsfacts: the name of the holy spirit is active force!!!!! you know the name yet you are asking.

Lol..........I want to hear the name of the holy spirit from your mouth...type it out here on nairaland........type am....

benalvino: Jesus was God co-eternal... That question still Goes... if there is only one lord am asking then why are there 2 lords? that is the simple thing am asking.
if you they think say the relationship Jesus have with the father is like father and son relationship here... then I will ask you to provide his eternal mother.

This your question is like asking why king nebuchadnezzar should be called king of kings when Jesus was also called that.........you no dey hear say God appoint Jesus as Lord??....and how does that negate God from being the Lord over Jesus??...is the title Lord your problem or what??

You still insist Jesus is co-eternal.....chei...smh!!!!

And you are wondering why Jesus and Yahwehs relationship is Father and son??.........why are the angels sons of God??....God being marry wife!??was it not through creation??.........

Adam was created and became Gods son......

Creation ooooo........

twosquare: check d threads on I think pg 30...u will c wat I xplained abt d name of d Holy Spirit .and d oneness

Ahh!!!!!!....so the Father,son and holy spirit have the same name??.....

You must be on whisky and alomo bitters...please go for a brain examination..........

So what is the name of the holy spirit??.......

Answer...make I hear the name from your mouth since bible no record am....

You are a disgrace to the scriptures.......

benalvino: I dont get what you understood there, but let me rephrase... there is one God both in heaven and earth abi? and there is one lord both in heaven and earth which is Jesus... the bible said One... now am asking Why is there 2 Lords and 2 God in heaven when the bible said there is one lord. how is that blasphemy
But to us there is but one God, the Father, of whom are all things, and we in him; and one Lord Jesus Christ, by whom are all things, and we by him.

Now I am asking you how did Jesus become Lord??.......was he not made Lord by this same Father and God we are talking about??.....why do you think paul did not say but to us we have one God the Father Son and Holy spirit??.....why only the Father??.......

And you simply can't come to terms that this Jesus whom God appointed as saviour and Lord is subject to God.......God and Jesus no be mate ..ona dey hear??....you guys are an insulting God and an insult to Him

twosquare: hw many times?u all see scriptures given frm matthew,Timothy, 1jhn,gospel according 2 John...check dis last threads....if after all these u don't believe, na u sabi.just like d stone.hearted jews.....abeg,stick with ur sentiments

And did you quote any of those scriptures yourself??........you just come in spy and run away.........

I believe when you say 1 john you are talking about 1 john 5:7...??...

Abi??...

I had asked you and your mates to tell me the name of the holy spirit and why he isn't in heaven....all I got was grown ups running here and there dancing azonto ............

The trinity can't stand truths and you know it.....

shdemidemi: I believe Mathew 28:19 best explains this issue, if and only if we would stop the prejudicial and ignoramus culture on nairaland.

And did that matthew 28:19 say and these 3 persons make one GOD??.....

You are so desperate to prove a lie and you just can't see it.......

Bidam: The problem i have with you is you always fail to see what i am saying as regards to the Op..let me still repeat myself in bold letters again ."Jesus is equal with God even though he is distinct in personality and function from God the father and God the Spirit..Scriptures are clear on this that Jesus was sent from the FATHER THROUGH THE SPIRIT.the red explains all your post..no one is disputing with you that Jesus did not come as a servant, son, friend and brother in the flesh..shikena!!!

The only time I a can agree with the bolded is when you start agreeing that we are equal with Jesus.........

Jesus did not only come as a servant,he is a servant of GOD......

I thought you had been thrashed on one of your threads you created........

And I have asked you before::::: why didn't Jesus send the Father??....why why and why??.........

benalvino: nope... you need to understand bible before putting it our... Jesus always differentiate his relationship with the father concerning us... he says my father and your father... there is no time he says our father.
because our relationship to the father is by adoption...
and you didn't answer it.

And he quoted hebrews 2:10-13 to show that Jesus and all of us all stem from the same Father.....what part of that simple explicit verse do you not understand??........

Adoption o,creation o, we are all from the Father....don't you get it??........don't you??......smh!!!!!

Itsfacts: So the bible... while not in the bible is called the Gospel... please use the scripture to find holy bible. now you see how dumb your argument is?

And y'all might just be dumber for not been able to show from scriptures a popular doctrine as the trinity.......

Just show us where it is said there are 3 persons in one God??.....please and please,,,,,.......

You people are a waste of time.......

benalvino: and yet the bible says Jesus is the only Lord in heaven and earth isn't it?
just as the father is called mighty God and almighty God... can someone be mighty and almighty at same time?
Jesus is called mighty and almighty God too...
they share same substance that is God... different office.

1Cor 15:27-28 God is not a thing so this rendering is not nice... check KJV.

Smh!!!!!!!........

I can't believe you would stoop so low to make this insultive comment about God the Father....do you guys really know you're blaspheming??.........

Read this scripture....

Do you even know it is God who made Jesus Lord over the church??........

and can you at least show us that at some time the Jesus became Father to the Father??......

Are you people for real??.......

What I see here is pride on you peoples part......

Jesus isn't called almighty God................he isn't and can't be.......because he has a God over him.....what is the part that Jesus has a God do you people not understand??.....

1 corinthians 11:3....

GOD'S WORD® Translation
(©1995)
However, I want you to realize
that Christ has authority over
every man, a husband has authority
over his wife, and God has
authority over Christ.


How do you reconcile the bolded part in 1 corinthians 11:3 with your God and Jesus sharing different offices but same substance......

I just can't understand why you guys have chosen to block your hearts....

And you haven't refuted the fact that Jesus had a beginning.....all you have done is run around.....scriptures have proven it clearly but u keep running......

You can keep running from that truth all your life.....it would hunt you and your fellows until you accede to it.........

Bidam: If you like argue from now till Jesus comes..That won't change scriptures. The truth is Jesus is equal with God, even though he is distinct in personality and function from God the Father and God the Spirit. The Scripture tells us that Jesus was sent from the Father through the Spirit. OR are you guys refuting His birth again? is it through a spermatozoa He came to this world?

Why did the Father have to send Jesus??.....why didn't Jesus send the Father??......

Itsfacts: Why do you same age as the father? My point was Isaac wasn't the only son of Abraham

Begotten is the discussion here..........

No amount of twisting can change its meaning......

Itsfacts: Yes Isaac was called only begotten. How about that?

And isaac was the same age with his Dad abi??........

Smdh!!!!!!!.......in all definitions of begotten or beget,the one who begets(GOD or human parents) is greater and older than the one who is begotten(Jesus and children of earthly parents)........

If you like run go here and there Jesus is not and has never been co-equal with his God and Father........

Bidam: The problem with these guys is their inability to discern spiritual truth. The word FATHER in relation to God doesn't mean father the way one is related to a human father, or in the sense of someone who is "greater" or "older" than Jesus Christ. Jesus is eternal, as God the father is eternal. Rather, the word Father refers to God's being the Source from which Jesus was sent.

What about GOD nkor??.....

Jesus said his Father is the same with our Father and his God is the same with our God.....abeg are we all co-eternal with with the fAther?

My oga why are u so desperate to defend a LIE??.......

Has God stopped being Jesus' Father??......ok can Jesus sometime choose to be the Father of the Father??,.....

Sometimes I no know wetin dey worry ona??........

Why is the Father always the source and not Jesus??..why can't Jesus sometimes be the source while the Father becomes the one dependent on Jesus??.....

For the fact you want to twist the word Father shows you want to be dubious.....

benalvino: I thought you said battle over

Him still wan argue say the glory wey God give Jesus ,wey Jesus come later give all of us na different glory.............

Make him dey there dey strong head.....

Make him no go read him bible complete......

benalvino: the whole point is how is 1+1 = 1...

In terms of??......equality or what??.....

benalvino: not in terms of marriage but union

So what is the whole point??....

benalvino: that is the itch... I and my father are 1... there are 3 that bear witness in heaven and those 3 are 1...
is God...

John the Baptist prepares the way for God(Jesus). Isaiah 40:3
"A voice of one calling: "In the wilderness prepare the way for the LORD; make straight in the desert a highway for our God."

again my point is 2 when they marry they become one flesh... that is how it is in the Hebrew... that's my point while mathematically they are 2... biblically they are One. that is how the father son and holy spirit are one...

And that is how the spirit,blood and water are one.............

Abi??.....

benalvino: ok tell me man was in heaven and created everything both in heaven and on earth...

Which man??........

benalvino: as a matter of fact Isaiah said his distroy body will come together and he will see God in flesh on earth... I know Jesus is the one coming back... Does it mean Isaiah is calling Jesus God?

Even when God says no man can see Him and live??......please do more research and weigh your answers well..........

benalvino: you dont know about symbol abi? this na another excuse... when you hear the lamb of God weting you think say e mean?
the LION of judah what does that mean?
watchtower likes to say the other sheep... are they really talking about sheep?

Yeah I knw its symbolic..but you're linking it to Jesus being with his bloody body in heaven.......

That is why I have asked....would all those exploded victims and maimed and decapitated individuals be with there bloody bodies in heaven??....

Answer me.....

@benalvino......later on that same slained lamb had fires coming out of its eyes and a sword coming out of his mouth...........

Tell me that is still a human or lamb as the case may be....

benalvino: you arguing with the verse i should you now? revelation 5:6?
you have seen it...

And my question to you now is ::is Jesus a physically slain lamb in heaven??........

Na which day Jesus turn to sheep for heaven.......??.....

Na sheep been hang for cross??.....

benalvino: you are just trying to run away from the truth with excuse... bear and many animals store energy in them that let them go for months without food... But the power of God in you why do you need food... Its up to you... you can try to doubt God's power or limit it or say Jesus lied because of What you believe... the truth is God's Power is more than what you are saying at the moment...

“I know that my Redeemer lives, and on the last day I shall rise out of the earth, and I shall be clothed again with my skin, and in my flesh I shall see my God” (Job 19:25-26).

“In my own flesh I shall see God . . . my eyes shall behold Him” (Job 19:26-27)

Rev. 5:6 John reported seeing a Lamb “as it had been slain” standing at the Throne of God in Heaven. you and i know the Lamb is Jesus, and interpret the phrase “as it had been slain” to mean that the Lord was still in the form He was in when He died, the form of a man. When Jesus agreed to become a man, it was a forever decision. and remember how the wounds are still on his hands and feet according to the way the lamb was slain
now we will have that glorified body... i see ijawkid is same person as numo this Body thing is done... i hope from this post you realise the power o God and from the new thread you opened.

Oboy....are u saying Job will go to heaven??.........

I can't remember when Jesus was ever a literal lamb on earth so as to still be a literal lamb in heaven......