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Christianity EtcRe: Trinity: Why Is It Easier To Call Jesus God And Not The Holy Spirit by ijawkid(m): 3:04pm On Jun 01, 2013
Dux-01:
so The FATHER is NOT your saviour right?
The Father is ofcourse the ultimate saviour.....you can ask me how??........

Because he sent Jesus...he makes the plans and his servant Jesus carried it out......God is the source of salvation.......Jesus was the tool he used....cheesy......
Christianity EtcRe: Trinity: Why Is It Easier To Call Jesus God And Not The Holy Spirit by ijawkid(m): 3:02pm On Jun 01, 2013
shdemidemi: I say the son applies to Jesus in the flesh...the verse says And he will be called
Wonderful Counselor, Mighty God,
Everlasting Father, Prince of Peace.

if I am not missing your point, the scripture says he would be called Mighty God but in reality he is not the almighty God. Is that what you are saying?
So you mean the son is no longer the son right now as we speak in heaven??....what!!!!!!.......

And just for clarification sakes......

He would called shows its all to happen in the future......and those titles were titles Jesus acted in after his ressurection...........cheesy......
Christianity EtcRe: Trinity: Why Is It Easier To Call Jesus God And Not The Holy Spirit by ijawkid(m): 2:56pm On Jun 01, 2013
benalvino: and I gave you a lot of examples already... what should we do before you accept the examples?
Show us the name of the holy spirit....

And did you notice I made a reference to the fact that blood and water were witnesses alongside the holy spirit??.......

You might have asked yourself why Jesus and the Father which was forced in the spurious rendering of 1 john 5:7 wasn't juxtaposed along with water and blood......cheesy....

And kindly just show us the holy spirit in heaven..for once let us just see the holy spirit in heaven.........na person abi??
Christianity EtcRe: Trinity: Why Is It Easier To Call Jesus God And Not The Holy Spirit by ijawkid(m): 2:53pm On Jun 01, 2013
Dux-01:
@Ijawkid.pls just ans my question.who is YOUR saviour.
My Saviour is Jesus whom God sent.....

Have I answerd your question??......cheesy
Christianity EtcRe: Trinity: Why Is It Easier To Call Jesus God And Not The Holy Spirit by ijawkid(m): 2:53pm On Jun 01, 2013
benalvino: abeg where in the bible? yeah Armageddon is in... abeg show me where it says jesus is an angel
Revelation 16:16......

16 Then they gathered the kings together to
the place that in Hebrew is called
Armageddon.


And about Jesus being called an angel its right here....cheesy..

Malachi 3:1...

Darby Bible Translation
Behold, I send my messenger, and
he shall prepare the way before
me; and the Lord whom ye seek
will suddenly come to his temple,
and the Angel of the covenant,
whom ye delight in: behold, he
cometh, saith Jehovah of hosts.


Douay-Rheims Bible
Behold I send my angel, and he
shall prepare the way before my
face. And presently the Lord,
whom you seek, and the angel of
the testament
, whom you desire,
shall come to his temple. Behold he
cometh, saith the Lord of hosts.


wink........
Christianity EtcRe: Trinity: Why Is It Easier To Call Jesus God And Not The Holy Spirit by ijawkid(m): 2:45pm On Jun 01, 2013
Debroslink: Now I see here u re coming from. JW indeed. U can twist the scriptures to suite ur beliefs. Well, it's a free world, and God (Jesus) will judge on d final day. rev 22:18
Answer the questions and stop this JW charade.....we want to be 100 percent sure the holy spirit is a person.....for the fact the holy spirit has no name shows it isn't person.........

Chikena...!!!!!

And take note Jesus' Judgement would be as God has told him to......so When Jesus comes to judge all those who have equated him with his God and Father get ready to answer some questions.......
Christianity EtcRe: Trinity: Why Is It Easier To Call Jesus God And Not The Holy Spirit by ijawkid(m): 2:39pm On Jun 01, 2013
benalvino: tell me when Nigeria talks to you... or tell me when you lie to Nigeria. tell me when Nigeria have feeling or mind... just accept the fact...

the name of the holy spirit is the holy spirit... it not certainly not active force.
Holy spirit is not the name of anybody.......nobodys name is holy spirit....angry.......

That is why it is not a person........
Christianity EtcRe: Trinity: Why Is It Easier To Call Jesus God And Not The Holy Spirit by ijawkid(m): 2:38pm On Jun 01, 2013
Debroslink: yah, I'm ready 4 u on 1 John5:7. The 20th century bible authors will melt and rot in hell for this blasphemy. For removing some parts of the scriptures, Jesus Christ our God has this to say in rev22:18.

In the area of the Holy Spirit,
The Holy Spirit is the all-knowing, all-seeing, everywhere-present God. Acts 5:3–4 teaches us that the Holy Spirit is God. Remember the story of Ananias and Sapphira? Before Ananias was struck dead, Peter told him, “[b]Why has Satan filled your heart to lie to the Holy Spirit
? . . . You have not lied to men; but to God.” From this event we can see that lying to the Holy Spirit is the same as lying to God; therefore, the Holy Spirit is God.[/b]
And Yes lying to the leading of Gods spirit is lying to GOd..I thought this scripture was formally used by u guys to say the holy spirit was called God............

And from the bolded can you tell me how satan filled the heart of ananias and sapphira??.......
Christianity EtcRe: Trinity: Why Is It Easier To Call Jesus God And Not The Holy Spirit by ijawkid(m): 2:35pm On Jun 01, 2013
And ben alvino...just as the spirit is called a witness so was BLOOD and WATER called a witness alongside the holy spirit......

I just wanted to point it out to you.....cheesy......
Christianity EtcRe: Trinity: Why Is It Easier To Call Jesus God And Not The Holy Spirit by ijawkid(m): 2:33pm On Jun 01, 2013
benalvino: Trinity is not in the bible... but so is Armageddon and active force... and no where does it state that jesus body was dissolved by God and jesus change to Michael which you guys calling Jesus an angel. yet una no question those believes una swallow am and digest it... when it comes to trinity that makes better sense suddenly its pagan. lol
Lol........is Jesus being the arch angel micheal pagan??......and for your info harmageddon is in the bible...go to revelation and read it,,,,,,

And yes the scriptures called Jesus an angel.....do you want to see it??....

Please just dare me and I'll show you Jesus was called an angel in the scriptures.........angry...

You think the Witnesses don't do continous research before they conclude on a doctrine??.......

The trinity is so false that it can't find its place in the scripture.....
Christianity EtcRe: Trinity: Why Is It Easier To Call Jesus God And Not The Holy Spirit by ijawkid(m): 2:30pm On Jun 01, 2013
benalvino: Jesus used personal pronouns when referring to the Holy Spirit:

"But I tell you the truth, it is to your advantage that I go away; for if I do not go away, the Helper will not come to you; but if I go, I will send Him to you. "And He, when He comes, will convict the world concerning sin and righteousness and judgment; concerning sin, because they do not believe in Me; and concerning righteousness, because I go to the Father and you no longer see Me; and concerning judgment, because the ruler of this world has been judged. "I have many more things to say to you, but you cannot bear them now. "But when He, the Spirit of truth, comes, He will guide you into all the truth; for He will not speak on His own initiative, but whatever He hears, He will speak; and He will disclose to you what is to come. "He will glorify Me, for He will take of Mine and will disclose it to you. "All things that the Father has are Mine; therefore I said that He takes of Mine and will disclose it to you. "(John 16:7-15).

Scripture uses many terms that are used when speaking of a person and applies them to the Holy Spirit:

He helps (John 16:7).

He comforts (John 14:16).

He convicts of sin (John 16:17).

He gives testimony of Jesus (John 15:26).

He teaches and brings to remembrance (John 14:26).

He guides (John 16:13).

He restrains (2 Thess. 2:7).

He speaks and instructs (Acts 8:29; 10:19; John 16:13).

He interprets our prayers (Rom. 8:26).

He sets apart/sanctifies (2Thess. 2:13).

He hears (John 16:13).

He seals us (Eph. 1:13).

He knows and communicates (1 Cor. 2:11; Rom. 8:27).

He sends (Acts 13:4).

He brings forth life (John 3:6 compare Gen. 1:3).

He is a witness (Acts 5:32).

He reveals (Eph. 3:5).

He prevents/stops (Acts 16:6-7).

He wills/separates (Acts 13:2).

He has a will by which He decides, chooses and distributes (1 Cor. 12:11).

He can be lied to (Acts 5:3-4).

He can be tested (Acts 5:9).

He can be grieved (Eph. 4:30).

He leads (Matt. 4:1).

The Spirit "said" to Philip. (Acts 8:29).

The Spirit "said" to Peter. (Acts 10:19-20).

Peter said he was "told" by the Spirit (Acts 11:12).

The Holy Spirit "solemnly testifies" (Acts 20:23).

The Holy Spirit "made" some of the early Christians "overseers to shepherd the Church". (Acts 20:28).

The Holy Spirit "spoke" (Acts 28:25-27).

Acts 15:22 states that "it seemed good to the apostles and the elders." Nothing particularly striking about this as it is just stating that something was good to certain people, in this case the apostles and the elders. However, in verse 28 we see an interesting parallel: "...it seemed good to the Holy Spirit and to us..." (Acts 15:28). Obviousely, this is similar to the earlier verse. But what is significant with both of these parallel verses is that the writer of Acts includes the Spirit along with various people as though he is just listing another Person. The casual way that this is presented makes this even more striking. The Apostles, elders, and the Spirit recognise something as being "good". Now if the Spirit were not a Person, but rather an impersonal force, as the Watchtower claim, it would be like saying "it seemed good to the wind and to us." Obviously, such a statement would make no sense.

In addition to this, it is incredible that that the Watchtower recognise other spirits as being personal but still deny the personality of the spirit:

The Watchtower Society tells us:-

1) That God is a Spirit and a person.
2) The angels are spirits and persons.
3) The demons are spirits and are persons.
4) Jesus is a spirit and a person.
5) Satan is a spirit and a person.
6) The Holy Spirit of God is a spirit but is NOT worthy of being a Person!!! *
Just as nigeria is called a she and that makes nigeria a person or a girl....

You've done well to quote a whole lot of scriptures....

1..But quietly just tell us the name of this spirit person called the holy spirit......
2..Tell us where the holy spirit is in heaven...why can't we ever see the holy spirit in heaven as a person......??.....why??...
3...Then finally show us from all the hundreds of verses you've quoted that calls the holy spirit a GOD or GOD......cheesy.....

Please do o.......

And please try to fix the holy spirit into 1 corinthians 11:3

If the Father is head of Christ who amongst the Father and Jesus is head of the holy spirit??........and why isn't the holy spirit fixed in that headship arrangement.......

Its not all about quoting scriptures ,its about coming to a truthful conclusion using the scriptures.......
Christianity EtcRe: Trinity: Why Is It Easier To Call Jesus God And Not The Holy Spirit by ijawkid(m): 2:24pm On Jun 01, 2013
Debroslink:
the word bible, rapture, are not in the bible, but you believe them don't u? I read ur comment about the Holy Spirit about being a force... But I tell u, it's a blasphemy. The Holy Spirit is Almighty God. Just read Job33:4 using the KJV and not the 20th century adulterated bible versions. The Holy Spirit created you, AND ONLY God has the power to create man.

I repeat if u wana respond to me by quoting d scriptures, use the KJV.

Any bible version that can't quote 1 John5:7 in full is ADULTERATED.
Ahh the favorite 1 john 5:7.....

Only insincere people quote 1 john 5:7. To support the trinity...........

Would you like us to discuss on 1 john 5:7......

Are u ready??......

And no where does the scriptures call the holy spirit God more or less the almighty GOD...angry.........

You people should stop dancing azonto and just show us.........

And let us look at the job 33:4 from the KJV...

Job 33:4
King James Version (KJV)
4 The spirit of God hath made me, and the
breath of the Almighty hath given me life.

Study the bolded carefully and give a retort........
Christianity EtcRe: Trinity: Why Is It Easier To Call Jesus God And Not The Holy Spirit by ijawkid(m): 2:19pm On Jun 01, 2013
shdemidemi: our brother benalvino has answered your question, although you seem to disagree. But the man had tried, could you please explain the prophesy of the coming of this begotten son.
For to us a child is born,
to us a son is given,
and the government will be on his shoulders.
And he will be called
Wonderful Counselor, Mighty God,
Everlasting Father, Prince of Peace.


The scriptures called him all those names, they seem like similar names of God, what do u think?
Does the title SON apply to the Father??......

And did you notice that in isaiah it say he would be called.....meaning Jesus wasn't all of that before his descending to the earth......not until after his death did those names apply to Jesus and ofcourse Jesus acted in those roles.......

And which of the titles should we discuss first??....

Choose......
Christianity EtcRe: Trinity: Why Is It Easier To Call Jesus God And Not The Holy Spirit by ijawkid(m): 2:13pm On Jun 01, 2013
benalvino: Really trying to make the bible look like Cheat but it is not working... the wayo bible or biggest wayo is the new world translation. you keep flipping bible that suits you in English in a way and in another argument suddenly the one that suits you is wayo and the KJV will be the one you use to support your self. so forget this talk.
Lol...you can call the NWT the most wayo-est bible translation..that is not my problem....at least the NWT has the name of the one true God written in its proper place...them try well well for that one.....

.......the problem here is I'm all out to make you see the trinity dogma does not originate with God.........

The next verse of the 2 peter you quoted even tells you the rendering of verse 1 is wrong......learn to always make scriptures act consistently and uncontradictory.........

And I also told you how an exact construct was used in thesellonians and that debunked the wayo played in 2 peter 1:1.......

It has always been known that the one true GOD is the Father......Jesus is not the Father and so not the on true GOD ....angry.....

No amount of spurious rendering and wrenching can battle that basic fact........

Now I would ask you again......

Who is the one true GOD??......

Read 1 timothy 2:5,1 corinthians 8:6,ephesians 4:6,1 corinthians 11:3 and also read through all of Jesus prayers and tell me who the one true GOD is........
Christianity EtcRe: Trinity: Why Is It Easier To Call Jesus God And Not The Holy Spirit by ijawkid(m): 1:47pm On Jun 01, 2013
Dux-01:
pls are u trying to say that All the times the word GOD was in the bible it referred to Only the Father and not too Jesus?
I am talking about specific places where the one GOd who is the only true GOD mentioned........it is only the Father......only the Father is the one God........

That is why Jesus worshipped Him.......
Christianity EtcRe: Trinity: Why Is It Easier To Call Jesus God And Not The Holy Spirit by ijawkid(m): 1:31pm On Jun 01, 2013
benalvino: another proof of the trinity with your own verse... and the holy spirit is distinct and not an it...

there is only one GOD comma shocked The FATHER and ONE LORD comma shocked the SON...

When the rest of the verse is quoted a problem soon emerges with interpreting this verse to deny Jesus as God. The rest of the verse states that there is one Lord - Jesus Christ. So, to exclude the Son from being God because it says there is to us one God, the Father, would also exclude the Father from being one Lord! In fact, Jude 4 talks about "our only Lord and master, Jesus Christ." Are we therefore to conclude that the Father is not our Lord? Of course not. But by the same measure, if we are to be consistent, neither are we to conclude that the Son is not God either.

The fact is, 1 Corinthians 8:6 should be understood in the light of the fact that the terms “God” and “Lord” are used interchangeably of the Father and the Son in Scripture. In Mark 5:19 (Jehovah in the NWT) and Luke 8:39 the two terms are used interchangeably. The Father is called “Lord” (Matt. 11:25), but the Son is also called God (John 1:1, Titus 2:13; 2 Pet 1:1, etc.) Interestingly, the two terms “Lord” and “God” are both used of Jesus at John 20:28. Jehovah is also called by this title (Rev. 4:11). The two terms are used interchangeably of both the Father and the Son.
So who is the only GOD na??......

Please...who??.....

And I hope you don't forget that Jehovah appointed Jesus as Lord and so you see Jesus being called Lord.......

And once again I take you back to 1 corinthians 11:3.....

We would revolve around this scriptures until you quit the trinity......and mind you the holy spirit sef them never even call am Lord sef........cheesy....

New International Version
(©2011)
But I want you to realize that the
head of every man is Christ, and
the head of the woman is man, and
the head of Christ is God

Once again we know who the one God is.....

And from John 1:1 was Jesus called the one God??.ahaaa...

And let us consider 2 peter 1:1...

You do know this verse is one amongst romans 9:5,and titus 2:13 which has been greatly twisted by trinitarians to satisfy there delusion...

Did you know that the words and construct in 2 peter 1:1 is exactly the same as the one found in 2 thesellonians 1:12 which we would read and then compare and fish out the wayo played.....cheesy...


New International Version
(©2011)
We pray this so that the name of
our Lord Jesus may be glorified in
you, and you in him, according to
the grace of our God and the Lord
Jesus Christ
.

Hope you can spot the wayo made by your guys.....wink...

And may we just move on to the next verse and expose the inconsistency of the renderers of this verse...

2peter 1:2

New International Version
(©2011)
Grace and peace be yours in
abundance through the knowledge
of God and of Jesus our Lord......

now can you spot the wayo played??......

Now you say they are used interchangeably,and that is because your fellow trinitarians have chosen to arbitrarily chosen to switch those titles.....

Now please can you interchange those titles from 1 corinthians 11:3,1 corinthians 15:24-28,1 timothy 2:5...??..those are just few scriptures that squash your stance....

And oh I forgot to quote 2peter 1:1 from KJV and ASV....cheesy...here they are...


American King James Version
Simon Peter, a servant and an
apostle of Jesus Christ, to them
that have obtained like precious
faith with us through the
righteousness of God and our
Savior Jesus Christ
:

American Standard Version
Simon Peter, a servant and
apostle of Jesus Christ, to them
that have obtained a like precious
faith with us in the righteousness
of our God and the'saviour Jesus
Christ
:


Weymouth New Testament
Simon Peter, a bondservant and
Apostle of Jesus Christ: To those
to whom there has been allotted
the same precious faith as that
which is ours through the
righteousness of our God and of
our Saviour Jesus Christ
.


Benalvino......

You can't twist scriptures to support the trinity....the trinity will ever remain pagan.....

Now I want you to answer confidently...

Who is the only one GOD??.......angry
Christianity EtcRe: When In The Bible Was Hell Fire Created? by ijawkid(m): 12:53pm On Jun 01, 2013
I no know o.....
Christianity EtcRe: Trinity: Why Is It Easier To Call Jesus God And Not The Holy Spirit by ijawkid(m): 12:46pm On Jun 01, 2013
benalvino: From what I know Our body is the throne of the Holy Spirit... after resurrection we will be having a spiritual and incorruptible body... God is everywhere Right Hand of God is not really Right Hand.... No one can seat at the Right hand of God... if you read the Scripture learn What throne his then also learn what Right hand means then you will know what that Sitting at the Right hand of God is... I don't want to Go into much details because they wont even accept... When the 4 Beast says Holy, Holy, Holy(father, son and Holy spirit...)

"The grace of the Lord Jesus Christ, and the love of God, and the communion of the Holy Spirit be with you all. Amen." (2 Corinthians 13:14)

"Go therefore and make disciples of all the nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit..." (Matthew 28:19)

"Come near to Me, hear this: I have not spoken in secret from the beginning; from the time that it was, I was there. And now the Lord GOD and His Spirit Have sent Me." (Isaiah 48:16)

"But now in Christ Jesus you who once were far off have been brought near...For through Him we both have access by one Spirit to the Father." (Ephesians 2:13-18)

"But you, beloved, building yourselves up on your most holy faith, praying in the Holy Spirit, keep yourselves in the love of God, looking for the mercy of our Lord Jesus Christ unto eternal life." (Jude 1:20-21)

"This Jesus God has raised up...Therefore being exalted to the right hand of God, and having received from the Father the promise of the Holy Spirit, He poured out this which you now see and hear." (Acts 2:32-33)

"Elect according to the foreknowledge of God the Father, through sanctification of the Spirit, unto obedience and sprinkling of the blood of Jesus Christ: Grace unto you, and peace, be multiplied." (1 Peter 1:2).
From all the scriptures you quoted no one calles Jesus GOD the son and the holy spirit God the holy spirit.....

The one GOD still is the Father....so this scriptures are just like everyday scriptures..nothing spectacular to prove the trinity dogma........
Christianity EtcRe: Trinity: Why Is It Easier To Call Jesus God And Not The Holy Spirit by ijawkid(m): 12:42pm On Jun 01, 2013
benalvino: I don't think you understand what we are saying... The father is God Jesus is God holy spirit is God also... Not 3 gods but 1... genesis God speaks of him self as plural... GOD is a title... And the three are 1. When Adam talk to God we later know it was Jesus...
Please read this scripture and re-evaluate your stance...

New Living Translation (©2007)
But we know that there is only one
God, the Father
, who created
everything, and we live for him.
And there is only one Lord, Jesus
Christ, through whom God made
everything and through whom we
have been given life.


Is Jesus and the holy spirit still the one God or only the Father??.......

I want you guys to tell me if you really believe in the trinity or not.....
Christianity EtcRe: Trinity: Why Is It Easier To Call Jesus God And Not The Holy Spirit by ijawkid(m): 12:41pm On Jun 01, 2013
benalvino: not correcting you... I was supposed to reply to truthlie explaining the distinction...
New Living Translation (©2007)
But we know that there is only one
God, the Father
, who created
everything, and we live for him.
And there is only one Lord, Jesus
Christ, through whom God made
everything and through whom we
have been given life.


Who is the one God??.....if you are so sure that Jesus isn't the Father then Jesus is not the almighty GOD....chikena.......
Christianity EtcRe: Trinity: Why Is It Easier To Call Jesus God And Not The Holy Spirit by ijawkid(m): 12:33pm On Jun 01, 2013
benalvino: not correcting you... I was supposed to reply to truthlie explaining the distinction...
Do you think till this moment you still can distinguish between Jehovah and Jesus??......with all the confusion you guys have installed in your system...lol...

Just not long ago you guys never agreed that the Father is the only one GOd....if you and your pals haven't agreed on that aren't you guys insinuating that the holy spirit and Jesus are also the Father so that they can be squeezed into one God ??.......

This is what the trinity does to its adherent...they get confused until they don't know where they stand.....one time they are holding on to modalism,the next minute they are back to the trinity....confusion!confusion!!confusion!!!...

Now let me ask you this simple question and let me see if you will not fumble and finally tell me Jesus is not the same as the Father....

According to 1 corinthians 8:6,ephesians 4:6 and all through the scriptures who is the one GOD??..........

angry
Christianity EtcRe: Trinity: Why Is It Easier To Call Jesus God And Not The Holy Spirit by ijawkid(m): 12:27pm On Jun 01, 2013
Debroslink:
I agree with you. The Holy Spirit is God Almighty. Acts 5:3,4 says it all. v3 says they lied to the Holy Spirit, v4 says they lied not to men, but God. Holy Spirit is not man or force, but God, equal with the Father and Messiah.
Smh!!!!!..........lol.......

Just a part of the scriptures that says God the holy spirit and this discussion is suppose to be over........even after much discussion you're still using this account to prove the holy spirit was called GOD.......ona wayo for this thread don too much,,,,,,

We need to see a bolded expression where it is said the holy spirit is called the almighty God or even a God.....

It seems the scriptures is not ready to back you guys up.....

The holy spirit has been forced into the pagan triology....if you guys can't realize this truth then no amount of help can see you guys through.....

And up till now as we speak we can't even see the holy spirit in heaven.......

Whyhuh.......

angry
Christianity EtcRe: What Happened To Striktlymi? by ijawkid(m): 10:18am On Jun 01, 2013
Logicboy03: Abegi! dont mind ijawkid.....fake azz Naija-deltan.

he keeps forgetting that I am from Naija delta as well
grin...you remember the name of your village for niger Delta??.......
Christianity EtcRe: What Happened To Striktlymi? by ijawkid(m): 10:17am On Jun 01, 2013
mazaje: If I hear say you use your body test anything. . .I don tell you say your own no pass to make mouth dey threaten people for Ijaw language, if yawa gas you go run go hide for creek. . . grin
Lol.......I no sabi threaten people o...cheesy
Christianity EtcRe: What Happened To Striktlymi? by ijawkid(m): 8:14am On Jun 01, 2013
mazaje: If i hear say you no go run hide inside water, you wey I know. . .I dey enter naija on tuesday. . .But will have business to take care of, so after like 10 days we go run am. . .Since na animal we go use, na just a day thing. . .
Ok......make ona pity the animal o....grin.....

If no be say I love God and my fellow humans na egbesu boy I for be o......grin....na me for dey run test this thing for you.....grin.....
Christianity EtcRe: What Happened To Striktlymi? by ijawkid(m): 7:58am On Jun 01, 2013
mazaje: Baba leave story, you don come again dey threaten people with naija delta issue, if him come now you go run go hide inside water. . . .Make we hear word abeg. . .
cheesy......I no go fit hide na.....ehe how far you and FOLKZ arrangement??.....e don click??.....
Christianity EtcRe: Trinity: Why Is It Easier To Call Jesus God And Not The Holy Spirit by ijawkid(m): 7:50am On Jun 01, 2013
benalvino: You have no clue what the trinity is... Trinity is one God. In genesis God said let us(plural) he also refer him self as plural. Then in Hebrew we later know that there is father and son... That's when the role or office of God was established to play different role in saving mankind... An example when the holyspirit come opon them and they all speak in tongues does it mean the only spirit is not 1 and he is plenty? Answer is nope... The holy spirit is one and can be in billions of people at once... That my friend is one of the mystery of God human mind can comprehend
Please reconcile your bolded comment with your previous comment days ago when you said the reason why the holy spirit could not be found in heaven on Gods throne was because he was the one giving John the vision there by limiting the holy spirit to a confined space and time...........

And for the fact that the holy spirit can be poured out on people and always influencing people to be energized to aCcomplish Gods purpose what does that tell you??....

You guys still have not come up with a lucid scriptural where about of the holy spirit in heaven..........
Christianity EtcRe: Trinity: Why Is It Easier To Call Jesus God And Not The Holy Spirit by ijawkid(m): 12:05am On Jun 01, 2013
benalvino: Ask your self if God is a spirit why does he have a spirit?
YoÙ already know my stance on what Gods spirit is.....so you should be asking yoursÉlf this question you're asking me.......
Christianity EtcRe: What Happened To Striktlymi? by ijawkid(m): 12:02am On Jun 01, 2013
Alfa leave §trÍkt alone na........

What Ìf his calling you guy§ OLODO is just part of the fun??........

cheesy.cheesy.....

I like myself...I no dey waste time to tell atheist my mind........grin......

Especially LB.......grin......I need carry that boy go put for the fore front of where militants dey burst pipe and dey battle with JTF......grin.....
Christianity EtcRe: Trinity: Why Is It Easier To Call Jesus God And Not The Holy Spirit by ijawkid(m): 11:52pm On May 31, 2013
benalvino: The spirit of God is the Holy spirit right?
YEP.............
Christianity EtcRe: Trinity: Why Is It Easier To Call Jesus God And Not The Holy Spirit by ijawkid(m): 11:45pm On May 31, 2013
benalvino: please go and check the Greek lexicon and see that it is not the same thing... if what you are claiming was correct WT wouldn't have removed the word and replace it with I have been...
I got this from wikepedia...

Judaism
Hebrew Bible
The word Ehyeh is used a total of 43
places in the Hebrew Bible, where it is
usually translated as "I will be" -- as is
the case for its first occurrence, in
Genesis 26:3—or "[b]I shall be[/b,]" as is the
case for its final occurrence in Zechariah
8:8. The importance placed on the phrase,
as it is used by God to identify himself in
the Burning Bush, stems from the Hebrew
conception of monotheism that God exists
by himself for himself, and is the
uncreated Creator who is independent of
any concept, force, or entity; therefore
"I am who I am" (ongoing).


Who said I AM that I AM is thÉ only right rÉndering of the hebrew word Ehyeh?? Who??.......
Christianity EtcRe: Trinity: Why Is It Easier To Call Jesus God And Not The Holy Spirit by ijawkid(m): 11:38pm On May 31, 2013
benalvino: 1.Spirit can refer to material things like wind-Jn 3:8
◦Vine: pneuma (pneuma) primarily denote the wind also breath; then especially the spirit, like the wind, is invisible, immaterial and powerful.
◦Spirit or wind is a "word picture" for the non-material part of man and the essence of God
1.Spirit can refer to the sum of all character qualities:
◦Spirit of fear: 2 Ti 1:7
◦Patience of spirit vs. haughtiness of spirit: Eccl 7:8
◦Meek and quiet spirit: 1 Pe 3:4
◦Spirit of gentleness: 1 Cor 4:21
◦Fervent in spirit: Acts 18:25
◦the spirit is willing: Mt 26:41
◦stand fast in one spirit (purpose): Phil 1:27
◦his spirit stirred (motivated) within in; Acts 17:16
◦In the spirit (character) of Elijah: Lk 1:17
1.Spirit can refer to intelligent conscious being apart from the physical body: Lk 24:39
◦God is a spirit: Jn 4:24
◦Jesus committed His Spirit into God's hands: Lk 23:46
◦The Holy Spirit is a "He" not an "It": Jn 16:12-14
◦Angels are spirits: Heb 1:14
◦Demons are spirits: Lk 4:33; Eph 6:12
◦Man has a spirit: Acts 7:59 (man is created in spiritual image of God, not physical image)

"I think I saw a ghost!" (Jesus' disciples believed in spirits and He didn't correct them)
1.Transfiguration had Elijah and Moses appear in spirit form: Mt 17:1-5
2.Jesus appeared twice after resurrection and disciples thought He was a ghost Mk 6:47-51
3.Jesus stood in disciples midst after raising & thought they were seeing a spirit Lk 24:36-39
4.Sadducees deny angel & spirit but Paul & Pharisees accept them: Acts 23:6-9

Bible teach you are the outward man and your spirit is the inward man...
2 Cor 4:16
Rom 7:22
Mt 26:41
3 Jn 2
... there is so much but I see now You are calling God a it... Because you don't get the meaning of what spirit is with the context... I hope the post show you how to define spirit because spirit can be many things... but when the thing have personality they you don't address with it... God have personality so is your spirit which is the character the outward body generates...
I knw spirit means many things.....

Now from the 1 corinthians we read how should we define the 3 spirits that were mentioned??........

If I can deduce something from your reply you are in effect saying that the spirit of God mentioned in 1 corinthians we read isn't Gods spirit(the holy spirit)??........

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