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Dux-01:The Father is ofcourse the ultimate saviour.....you can ask me how??........ Because he sent Jesus...he makes the plans and his servant Jesus carried it out......God is the source of salvation.......Jesus was the tool he used.... ...... |
shdemidemi: I say the son applies to Jesus in the flesh...the verse says And he will be calledSo you mean the son is no longer the son right now as we speak in heaven??....what!!!!!!....... And just for clarification sakes...... He would called shows its all to happen in the future......and those titles were titles Jesus acted in after his ressurection........... ...... |
benalvino: and I gave you a lot of examples already... what should we do before you accept the examples?Show us the name of the holy spirit.... And did you notice I made a reference to the fact that blood and water were witnesses alongside the holy spirit??....... You might have asked yourself why Jesus and the Father which was forced in the spurious rendering of 1 john 5:7 wasn't juxtaposed along with water and blood...... ....And kindly just show us the holy spirit in heaven..for once let us just see the holy spirit in heaven.........na person abi?? |
Dux-01:My Saviour is Jesus whom God sent..... Have I answerd your question??...... ![]() |
benalvino: abeg where in the bible? yeah Armageddon is in... abeg show me where it says jesus is an angelRevelation 16:16...... 16 Then they gathered the kings together to the place that in Hebrew is called Armageddon. And about Jesus being called an angel its right here.... ..Malachi 3:1... Darby Bible Translation Behold, I send my messenger, and he shall prepare the way before me; and the Lord whom ye seek will suddenly come to his temple, and the Angel of the covenant, whom ye delight in: behold, he cometh, saith Jehovah of hosts. Douay-Rheims Bible Behold I send my angel, and he shall prepare the way before my face. And presently the Lord, whom you seek, and the angel of the testament, whom you desire, shall come to his temple. Behold he cometh, saith the Lord of hosts. ........ |
Debroslink: Now I see here u re coming from. JW indeed. U can twist the scriptures to suite ur beliefs. Well, it's a free world, and God (Jesus) will judge on d final day. rev 22:18Answer the questions and stop this JW charade.....we want to be 100 percent sure the holy spirit is a person.....for the fact the holy spirit has no name shows it isn't person......... Chikena...!!!!! And take note Jesus' Judgement would be as God has told him to......so When Jesus comes to judge all those who have equated him with his God and Father get ready to answer some questions....... |
benalvino: tell me when Nigeria talks to you... or tell me when you lie to Nigeria. tell me when Nigeria have feeling or mind... just accept the fact...Holy spirit is not the name of anybody.......nobodys name is holy spirit.... .......That is why it is not a person........ |
Debroslink: yah, I'm ready 4 u on 1 John5:7. The 20th century bible authors will melt and rot in hell for this blasphemy. For removing some parts of the scriptures, Jesus Christ our God has this to say in rev22:18.And Yes lying to the leading of Gods spirit is lying to GOd..I thought this scripture was formally used by u guys to say the holy spirit was called God............ And from the bolded can you tell me how satan filled the heart of ananias and sapphira??....... |
And ben alvino...just as the spirit is called a witness so was BLOOD and WATER called a witness alongside the holy spirit...... I just wanted to point it out to you..... ...... |
benalvino: Trinity is not in the bible... but so is Armageddon and active force... and no where does it state that jesus body was dissolved by God and jesus change to Michael which you guys calling Jesus an angel. yet una no question those believes una swallow am and digest it... when it comes to trinity that makes better sense suddenly its pagan. lolLol........is Jesus being the arch angel micheal pagan??......and for your info harmageddon is in the bible...go to revelation and read it,,,,,, And yes the scriptures called Jesus an angel.....do you want to see it??.... Please just dare me and I'll show you Jesus was called an angel in the scriptures......... ...You think the Witnesses don't do continous research before they conclude on a doctrine??....... The trinity is so false that it can't find its place in the scripture..... |
benalvino: Jesus used personal pronouns when referring to the Holy Spirit:Just as nigeria is called a she and that makes nigeria a person or a girl.... You've done well to quote a whole lot of scriptures.... 1..But quietly just tell us the name of this spirit person called the holy spirit...... 2..Tell us where the holy spirit is in heaven...why can't we ever see the holy spirit in heaven as a person......??.....why??... 3...Then finally show us from all the hundreds of verses you've quoted that calls the holy spirit a GOD or GOD...... .....Please do o....... And please try to fix the holy spirit into 1 corinthians 11:3 If the Father is head of Christ who amongst the Father and Jesus is head of the holy spirit??........and why isn't the holy spirit fixed in that headship arrangement....... Its not all about quoting scriptures ,its about coming to a truthful conclusion using the scriptures....... |
Debroslink:Ahh the favorite 1 john 5:7..... Only insincere people quote 1 john 5:7. To support the trinity........... Would you like us to discuss on 1 john 5:7...... Are u ready??...... And no where does the scriptures call the holy spirit God more or less the almighty GOD... .........You people should stop dancing azonto and just show us......... And let us look at the job 33:4 from the KJV... Job 33:4 King James Version (KJV) 4 The spirit of God hath made me, and the breath of the Almighty hath given me life. Study the bolded carefully and give a retort........ |
shdemidemi: our brother benalvino has answered your question, although you seem to disagree. But the man had tried, could you please explain the prophesy of the coming of this begotten son.Does the title SON apply to the Father??...... And did you notice that in isaiah it say he would be called.....meaning Jesus wasn't all of that before his descending to the earth......not until after his death did those names apply to Jesus and ofcourse Jesus acted in those roles....... And which of the titles should we discuss first??.... Choose...... |
benalvino: Really trying to make the bible look like Cheat but it is not working... the wayo bible or biggest wayo is the new world translation. you keep flipping bible that suits you in English in a way and in another argument suddenly the one that suits you is wayo and the KJV will be the one you use to support your self. so forget this talk.Lol...you can call the NWT the most wayo-est bible translation..that is not my problem....at least the NWT has the name of the one true God written in its proper place...them try well well for that one..... .......the problem here is I'm all out to make you see the trinity dogma does not originate with God......... The next verse of the 2 peter you quoted even tells you the rendering of verse 1 is wrong......learn to always make scriptures act consistently and uncontradictory......... And I also told you how an exact construct was used in thesellonians and that debunked the wayo played in 2 peter 1:1....... It has always been known that the one true GOD is the Father......Jesus is not the Father and so not the on true GOD .... .....No amount of spurious rendering and wrenching can battle that basic fact........ Now I would ask you again...... Who is the one true GOD??...... Read 1 timothy 2:5,1 corinthians 8:6,ephesians 4:6,1 corinthians 11:3 and also read through all of Jesus prayers and tell me who the one true GOD is........ |
Dux-01:I am talking about specific places where the one GOd who is the only true GOD mentioned........it is only the Father......only the Father is the one God........ That is why Jesus worshipped Him....... |
benalvino: another proof of the trinity with your own verse... and the holy spirit is distinct and not an it...So who is the only GOD na??...... Please...who??..... And I hope you don't forget that Jehovah appointed Jesus as Lord and so you see Jesus being called Lord....... And once again I take you back to 1 corinthians 11:3..... We would revolve around this scriptures until you quit the trinity......and mind you the holy spirit sef them never even call am Lord sef........ ....New International Version (©2011) But I want you to realize that the head of every man is Christ, and the head of the woman is man, and the head of Christ is God Once again we know who the one God is..... And from John 1:1 was Jesus called the one God??.ahaaa... And let us consider 2 peter 1:1... You do know this verse is one amongst romans 9:5,and titus 2:13 which has been greatly twisted by trinitarians to satisfy there delusion... Did you know that the words and construct in 2 peter 1:1 is exactly the same as the one found in 2 thesellonians 1:12 which we would read and then compare and fish out the wayo played..... ...New International Version (©2011) We pray this so that the name of our Lord Jesus may be glorified in you, and you in him, according to the grace of our God and the Lord Jesus Christ. Hope you can spot the wayo made by your guys..... ...And may we just move on to the next verse and expose the inconsistency of the renderers of this verse... 2peter 1:2 New International Version (©2011) Grace and peace be yours in abundance through the knowledge of God and of Jesus our Lord...... now can you spot the wayo played??...... Now you say they are used interchangeably,and that is because your fellow trinitarians have chosen to arbitrarily chosen to switch those titles..... Now please can you interchange those titles from 1 corinthians 11:3,1 corinthians 15:24-28,1 timothy 2:5...??..those are just few scriptures that squash your stance.... And oh I forgot to quote 2peter 1:1 from KJV and ASV.... ...here they are...American King James Version Simon Peter, a servant and an apostle of Jesus Christ, to them that have obtained like precious faith with us through the righteousness of God and our Savior Jesus Christ: American Standard Version Simon Peter, a servant and apostle of Jesus Christ, to them that have obtained a like precious faith with us in the righteousness of our God and the'saviour Jesus Christ: Weymouth New Testament Simon Peter, a bondservant and Apostle of Jesus Christ: To those to whom there has been allotted the same precious faith as that which is ours through the righteousness of our God and of our Saviour Jesus Christ. Benalvino...... You can't twist scriptures to support the trinity....the trinity will ever remain pagan..... Now I want you to answer confidently... Who is the only one GOD??....... ![]() |
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benalvino: From what I know Our body is the throne of the Holy Spirit... after resurrection we will be having a spiritual and incorruptible body... God is everywhere Right Hand of God is not really Right Hand.... No one can seat at the Right hand of God... if you read the Scripture learn What throne his then also learn what Right hand means then you will know what that Sitting at the Right hand of God is... I don't want to Go into much details because they wont even accept... When the 4 Beast says Holy, Holy, Holy(father, son and Holy spirit...)From all the scriptures you quoted no one calles Jesus GOD the son and the holy spirit God the holy spirit..... The one GOD still is the Father....so this scriptures are just like everyday scriptures..nothing spectacular to prove the trinity dogma........ |
benalvino: I don't think you understand what we are saying... The father is God Jesus is God holy spirit is God also... Not 3 gods but 1... genesis God speaks of him self as plural... GOD is a title... And the three are 1. When Adam talk to God we later know it was Jesus...Please read this scripture and re-evaluate your stance... New Living Translation (©2007) But we know that there is only one God, the Father, who created everything, and we live for him. And there is only one Lord, Jesus Christ, through whom God made everything and through whom we have been given life. Is Jesus and the holy spirit still the one God or only the Father??....... I want you guys to tell me if you really believe in the trinity or not..... |
benalvino: not correcting you... I was supposed to reply to truthlie explaining the distinction...New Living Translation (©2007) But we know that there is only one God, the Father, who created everything, and we live for him. And there is only one Lord, Jesus Christ, through whom God made everything and through whom we have been given life. Who is the one God??.....if you are so sure that Jesus isn't the Father then Jesus is not the almighty GOD....chikena....... |
benalvino: not correcting you... I was supposed to reply to truthlie explaining the distinction...Do you think till this moment you still can distinguish between Jehovah and Jesus??......with all the confusion you guys have installed in your system...lol... Just not long ago you guys never agreed that the Father is the only one GOd....if you and your pals haven't agreed on that aren't you guys insinuating that the holy spirit and Jesus are also the Father so that they can be squeezed into one God ??....... This is what the trinity does to its adherent...they get confused until they don't know where they stand.....one time they are holding on to modalism,the next minute they are back to the trinity....confusion!confusion!!confusion!!!... Now let me ask you this simple question and let me see if you will not fumble and finally tell me Jesus is not the same as the Father.... According to 1 corinthians 8:6,ephesians 4:6 and all through the scriptures who is the one GOD??.......... ![]() |
Debroslink:Smh!!!!!..........lol....... Just a part of the scriptures that says God the holy spirit and this discussion is suppose to be over........even after much discussion you're still using this account to prove the holy spirit was called GOD.......ona wayo for this thread don too much,,,,,, We need to see a bolded expression where it is said the holy spirit is called the almighty God or even a God..... It seems the scriptures is not ready to back you guys up..... The holy spirit has been forced into the pagan triology....if you guys can't realize this truth then no amount of help can see you guys through..... And up till now as we speak we can't even see the holy spirit in heaven....... Why .......![]() |
Logicboy03: Abegi! dont mind ijawkid.....fake azz Naija-deltan. ...you remember the name of your village for niger Delta??....... |
mazaje: If I hear say you use your body test anything. . .I don tell you say your own no pass to make mouth dey threaten people for Ijaw language, if yawa gas you go run go hide for creek. . .Lol.......I no sabi threaten people o... ![]() |
mazaje: If i hear say you no go run hide inside water, you wey I know. . .I dey enter naija on tuesday. . .But will have business to take care of, so after like 10 days we go run am. . .Since na animal we go use, na just a day thing. . .Ok......make ona pity the animal o.... .....If no be say I love God and my fellow humans na egbesu boy I for be o...... ....na me for dey run test this thing for you..... ..... |
mazaje: Baba leave story, you don come again dey threaten people with naija delta issue, if him come now you go run go hide inside water. . . .Make we hear word abeg. . . ......I no go fit hide na.....ehe how far you and FOLKZ arrangement??.....e don click??..... |
benalvino: You have no clue what the trinity is... Trinity is one God. In genesis God said let us(plural) he also refer him self as plural. Then in Hebrew we later know that there is father and son... That's when the role or office of God was established to play different role in saving mankind... An example when the holyspirit come opon them and they all speak in tongues does it mean the only spirit is not 1 and he is plenty? Answer is nope... The holy spirit is one and can be in billions of people at once... That my friend is one of the mystery of God human mind can comprehendPlease reconcile your bolded comment with your previous comment days ago when you said the reason why the holy spirit could not be found in heaven on Gods throne was because he was the one giving John the vision there by limiting the holy spirit to a confined space and time........... And for the fact that the holy spirit can be poured out on people and always influencing people to be energized to aCcomplish Gods purpose what does that tell you??.... You guys still have not come up with a lucid scriptural where about of the holy spirit in heaven.......... |
benalvino: Ask your self if God is a spirit why does he have a spirit?YoÙ already know my stance on what Gods spirit is.....so you should be asking yoursÉlf this question you're asking me....... |
Alfa leave §trÍkt alone na........ What Ìf his calling you guy§ OLODO is just part of the fun??........ . .....I like myself...I no dey waste time to tell atheist my mind........ ......Especially LB....... ......I need carry that boy go put for the fore front of where militants dey burst pipe and dey battle with JTF...... ..... |
benalvino: The spirit of God is the Holy spirit right?YEP............. |
benalvino: please go and check the Greek lexicon and see that it is not the same thing... if what you are claiming was correct WT wouldn't have removed the word and replace it with I have been...I got this from wikepedia... Judaism Hebrew Bible The word Ehyeh is used a total of 43 places in the Hebrew Bible, where it is usually translated as "I will be" -- as is the case for its first occurrence, in Genesis 26:3—or "[b]I shall be[/b,]" as is the case for its final occurrence in Zechariah 8:8. The importance placed on the phrase, as it is used by God to identify himself in the Burning Bush, stems from the Hebrew conception of monotheism that God exists by himself for himself, and is the uncreated Creator who is independent of any concept, force, or entity; therefore "I am who I am" (ongoing). Who said I AM that I AM is thÉ only right rÉndering of the hebrew word Ehyeh?? Who??....... |
benalvino: 1.Spirit can refer to material things like wind-Jn 3:8I knw spirit means many things..... Now from the 1 corinthians we read how should we define the 3 spirits that were mentioned??........ If I can deduce something from your reply you are in effect saying that the spirit of God mentioned in 1 corinthians we read isn't Gods spirit(the holy spirit)??........ |
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