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Ubenedictus: it shows what she can do

Ubenedictus: do not bring your derogatory remarks here pls. point of correction verses 5 and 6 weren't Jesus words but johns so d bolded isn't exactly correct.
do well to read up on the hypostatic union that should answer your question. and as i said earlier this is just one aspect.

Ubenedictus: while on earth Jesus took our human nature! By that nature he took he was even less than the angels (heb 2:9). He was a creature like us all, with flesh and blood like us. The guy who created everything is now d thing he created. By his humanity He is thus under his fathers dominion just like i am. He can thus address the father as "my God" becos by his human nature dat is very true.
This is just one aspect.

Pygru: Holy Spirit
They deny the personality of the holy spirit Just to rubbish the Trinity.
How can you say the Holy Spirit is an active force like radar
If the Holy Spirit is simply a force then...
Why dem call am God ( Acts 5:3-5 )?

How him take be teacher ( John 14:26 )?

How you fit Blasphame am ( Matt. 12:31 , 32 )?

Comforter ( Acts9:31 )?

How come he fit Talk ( Acts 28:25 )?

How come you fit resist am ( Acts 7:51 )?

How can a force be grieved ( Eph. 4:30 )?

How he fit help Us when we weak ( Rom. 8:26 )?

If you still insist that He is a Force, then how is He able to exhibit those Xteristics?

Does a Force speak, teach and comfort

How can a Force be blasphamed

Pygru: Similarities between Ijawkid (JW) and the Pharisees:

The Pharisees denied the Trinity and the Deity of Jesus Christ, like Ijawkid (JW).


Revelation 1:17-18 , "When I saw him, I fell at his feet as though dead. Then he placed his right hand on me and said: "Do not be afraid. I am the First and the Last. I am the Living One; I was dead, and behold I am alive for ever and ever! And I hold the keys of death and Hades.
Who talk this one Na Jesus

Revelation 1:8 , "I am the Alpha and the Omega," says the Lord God, "who is, and who was, and who is to come, the Almighty
who talk this one God

Revelation 22:12-13 , "Behold, I am coming soon! My reward is with me, and I will give to everyone according to what he has done. I am the Alpha and the Omega, the First and the Last, the Beginning and the End
Ijawkid who talk this one
both the "Alpha and the Omega" and the "First and the Last" are said to be one and the same

From Ijawkid's Bible; New World Translation Of the Holy Scriptures.

Richieboyn: YES. It is NOT the final authority. We had started exsisting ever before we compiled the Bible. God was speaking to us then, He still does so now...

Pygru: John 14 Vs 3
King James Bible (Cambridge Ed.)
And if I go and prepare a place for you, I will come again, and receive you unto myself; thatwhere I am, there ye may be also.

Pygru: bro I am not infallible but the bible is.
Someone like Ijawkid (JW), will tell you that heaven is already filled, (144,000 saints) and that they (Ijawkid & JW) will inherit the world (all the beautiful houses) .
He will also tell You there is no hell.

alexleo: Wait o...are you saying that there is no God our father, Jesus the son and the Holy Spirit or what?

Pygru: Frosbel
I admire his passion but like I stated ealier, his stance on
Trinity!!
Hell!!!
Rapture!! Baffles me.
All these are clearly stated in the bible.

striktlymi: Good morning Uben,



Doesn't it confuse you? Wow!!! You would be the first I have come in contact with. When I try to apply reason and logic to the trinity from what we can observe, I come out empty. The ish would be to understand why Jesus would relate to the Father in prayer where in fact he is relating with himself. Or a situation where Jesus promises the comforter (the Holy spirit) when he has the same essence as the spirit. Why must Christ go away before the spirit come if they are indeed one and the same person?

I do believe in the trinity but we really would have a hard time cracking the mystery surrounding the trinity. I do understand that God is unfathomable. He is great beyond comparison! He can do whatever he wants, be wherever he wants, decide to be in more than 3 places at the same time and reveal himself in more than one way but the ish is still WHY??

Why would it (God transcends any s*x) decide to reveal itself in this way? Is it trying to relate it's various natures to mankind? Is it saying that the Father is the all powerful ruler and creator, the God of Justice and fairness who is at the core of the Universe' 'delicate' balance? The Son brings forth his compassion and care for all his creation, it's redemptive nature and it's longing to relate with it's creation in a more personal level in order to guide us to itself? While the spirit brings forth it's nature as teacher, the means where men get consoled and lead in gentle companionship through all ages to the Father?

Mehn, this is harder than it looks!



if God is not exactly a person but a nature, why then do we describe the trinity as "three persons in one"?


Thanks man!

Pygru: Beware of Frosbel, Ijawkid & Seriallink
I like their anti catholism stance, but most of their teachings are laced with false doctrines

Also Beware of the catholic crew led by Italo and assisted by chukwudi44, ubenedictus, striktlymi etc

Ubenedictus: hehehe, everyday on nairaland my believes are called to question, frosbel, ijawkid, truthislight, bookmark, alexo, barrister, name them. If u are talking about "hot sit" then u've never seen it.

Boomark: You are using this to avoid the questions above but i will answer you.

Jn 2:5
His mother said to the servants, "whatever He says to you, do it."

Was it Mary or the servants that set the 6 water pot of stone before Christ, v6?

Who filled them with water in v7?

You catholics disobey/dishonour Mary. She said, "whatever He(Christ) says to you, do it." Do you people honour that by going to God through Christ when you are in need? Christ never instructed anyone to go to Mary and ask for help. Do you catholics respect her words on this?





No wonder her statue is always crying blood in your church when it should be happy and smiling.

Ubenedictus: spare me the crap! I started reading ur stuff from a very young age, my extended jws made sure i was supplied with heavy anti catholic material. I gave me a reason to study your stuff and see the faulty logic behind them. That is why u never answer when i ask u what adoration is made up of.

Ubenedictus: i dey fine! Since i was 12 no Jw ever tried "coverting" me, i gave the last guys a very heavy dose, they came with their self righteousnes with the thought i didnt read the bible. When they left they were asking if i was in a theology school for minors, Since then they've avoided me like plague.
U only prey on the ignorant.

Ubenedictus: my dear! That is your problem! I don't need an exact scripture passage to celebrate the resurrection of christ. I celebrate my birthday and there are no scripture verses that say so.
If celebrating the resurrection is pagan simply becos it isn't in the bible, then everything not in the bible must be pagan.
Bottomline: i dont need a bible passage to celebrate christ's resurrection. And i can't be accused of sin unless u have a passage dat says "dont celebrate the resurrection"
where there is no law there is no sin.

Ubenedictus: hehehe, really? Maybe they should add you both together. What converts have ya gat with all your anti catholicism?

chukwudi44: Dude frosbel's anti-catholicism has hot yielded any result over the years.The Apostles converted over 3000 souls in just 1 day yet frosbel is yet to convert a catholic in over 3 years.What a shame of his evengelising skills.

Ubenedictus: I just imagine say u be dey wait make i post before you quote me. do you even know its inception?

christmas is no pagan holiday, christian were already celebrating 25th as christmas before d pagans highjacked d feast to celebrate sol invinctus.
For d rest, i no get your time.

Richieboyn: He's not even using a BB

Tropilo: Olodo rabata!

Zikkyy: Have told you already, I don't know of any link between Jesus & EAOSTRE if you have something to say, just say it. I no go answer you again on this particular question. You are the one telling us there is a link, so tell us what that link is. Zikkyy is not aware there is a link, so how do expect him to provide the answer you want?

chukwudi44: The mumu does not even know the difference between orthodoxy and catholicism.Fyi these are not catholics but rather members of the eastern orthodox churches.They broke away from the catholic church since 1054ce.

Not that I condemn their beleifs though

Boomark: 1 Did Mary receive an answer to their problem on their behalf?

2 Do you think that if these people had known Christ, they wount go to him for help before directed them.

They did not ask for Mary's help. Mary went to them and showed them who their Lord and saviour is. They went to him and got help.

Tell us how this is a twist and how catholic church twisted this to mean that we should ask or pray to Mary.

Richieboyn: I owe you NO APOLOGY.

Ubenedictus: I guess you went to an anti orthodox site to get your pictures. I no get time to discuss symbolism in orthodoxy but i go beg you make you take out some time to do your research not just paste picture without context.

Ubenedictus: Simple answer: christmas has been commercialised, the stuff we call "celebrating christmas" today would have caused the earlier xtians to "fear, fear". We have turn it into a day for chicken, drinks and new clothes, d spiritual significance is almost forgotten!
On d otherhand easter's commercialisation is reduced. I think it is time we decide if we want to celebrate the birth of christ and/or resurrection or we are seeking an opportunity to over eat.

Zikkyy: You see yourself? So you heard that people are celebrating Jesus resurrection, why you come dey ask irrelevant question na?

Zikkyy: Don't ask me questions I know nothing about I no fit do research because I want to answer your question if you know there is a connection between Jesus & EAOSTRE tell us. Anyways e be like UBE don answer your question