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If truly this is African juju, then anyone who try to rescue him would have drowned with him.

texazzpete:
How do I know this? because I nearly drowned in a swimming pool many years ago. I was in water depth of just 7 feet and yet if someone wasn't around to pull me out, i'd have died that day.

Guy you just might be one of my friends in those days at the swimming pool side of Ogun State Hotel, Abeokuta about 19yrs ago.

edoyad:
Even if he's an intelligence man, do you really expect him to reveal it here ?

And back to your question, what did the US intelligence industry or whatever do to avert 9/11 ? These were foreigners who received flight training in the US before using that same training to attack same country.
How about the Mumbai bombings last month, what did the Indians do to prevent that ?
You talk as if this intelligence information is a guaranty that every adversity can be prevented.

Don't get me wrong, I do not expect him to disclose his identity if he belong to any intelligence outfit, but for us to understand and appreciate the peculiarity of our circumstance on security and intelligence.
Meanwhile intelligence information in Nigeria is xterized with bureaucracy, ethnicity, religion and politics unlike USA, that is why our intelligence outfit is inefficient in my opinion. If mumbai was bombed, it means their intelligence is as lousy as ours.

But I differ in opinion that intelligence information is not a guaranty that every adversity can be prevented. Do you mean that intelligent information that will save lives and property will be ignored?
From what I read on 9/11, Pentagon and White House were also targets, but due to intelligence information those locations were prevented.

NLC - please DO NOT cancel this strike oooo, my boss have denied me 5 days leave already, this strike will put him to shame; moreover people in my industry are always looking forward to public holidays it doesn't matter which form it came.

Bawss1:
Its amusing watching people here displaying their fragmented knowledge of the intelligence industry.  

Mr knowledge, what has Nigeria intelligence industry done to avert the numerous security challenges in the country to the extent of security threat to Police HQ? perhaps you mean to say that their jurisdiction did not cover such intelligence areas? Stop dwelling on the principle of intelligence and wake up to reality.

Are you one of them? You may need to look at my previous post before you respond. Please educate and update us.

Okoro2015:
I recommend James Hardly Chase's "Why pick on me"
A must read for the so called Nigerian Security System.

Those are fictions. even if James Bound and Jack Baur will be useless in Nigeria.

Eeedi re lode.
Ki olorun dele feni to ti ku - RIP!

I think what we are looking at here is intelligence gathering in practice and not in principle.  

Most of the intelligence operators we have in this country misconstrued their status as an elevated opportunity to be above the law. Even as a layman, i can recognize an operator within 5 minutes of conversation, they are that inefficient. You can even recognize them on this thread.  

Few of them that are really efficient are not encouraged by their superiors because when they submit their report, they are too surprise to realized their superiors have been compromised and they are likely to be tagged uncooperative. When they are not compromised, ethnicity, politics and religion are given priority over intelligence report, too bad.  

Really the funding may be seen as inadequate compared to other nation but comparism as a percentage share in national expenditure is a huge share, and I see it as an avenue by those in charge to enrich themselves rather than commitment to selfless service to motherland.

If as stated above exist in our so called intelligence outfit, can they merit the nomenclature? rather i will tag them another elevated ministry which is as clueless as all our leaders.  

Blackteeth:
I don't really know if Nigeria has an intelligence or spy outfit.

Haba, are you from the moon?
We have SSS everywhere in this country, they are always using Peugeot 206 mostly in white color. They usually frequent joints and club houses. Anytime you have issue with them, they will harass you with their pistol saying ''don't you know I am SS/2x''

I would rather interpret it like this, Dirty people attract mosquitoes to themselves.

@rafhell, please be careful ooo.
whether you bath 20 times before you sleep guarantee you nothing except those mosquitoes are not hiding somewhere in your bedroom. precaution is better than daring Lagos mosquitoes, some even have gas-mask and carry straw.

bashy_demy:
Well you seem not really understand me slymm am going by the topic wish ask if all married men will cheat and my own understand of men so far is that almost all men will cheat the faithful will only be 10/1000 and the revd fathers  but all men that that are very social and rich will cheat that my own point its not possible for all of us on here to give the same response on this issue you might be right about your point and i believe i am on my too.

Bashy, do you know why i stopped responding to this thread? because i have made my point and most posters disagreed on the use of the word ALL. Well, let them stick to their guns, I just hope they will not be too shocked to recover when the truth crystallized.

In strict adherence to this topic; WILL ALL MARRIED MEN CHEAT? I will say YES, but most posters are actually condemning the act ''cheating'' rather than sticking to the topic with reality based facts.

Really, I belief all men cheat, but in my opinion TIME is the only differentiating factor as to whether a man would cheat or not. In reality, ALL men are committed to non cheating habits when they take their marital vows, this in my opinion bring us to the 3 categories of cheaters:
a) Those that start in the early years of marriage (Early starters usually below 15 years)
b) Those that start to cheat at some points btw 15 to 30 years of marriage (Middle starters)
c) Those that start to cheat from 30 years of marital life and above. (Late starters)
In my opinion, late starters are most dangerous because when they do, they take up 2nd wife straight-up. Middle starters are likely to have a love child because of inexperience, while early starters are usually very smart, they've master the artistry over years. Note that we are not discussing consequences of cheating though, they are numerous.

bashy_demy; hilli666, richvkunt; tunnytox and others who share same tot on this issue. I truly commend you guys not because you are promoting the act of cheating, (we all agree it's bad) but for saying the realistic truth.
If anyone is too passionate about the act to be disillusioned, let them be; perhaps it high time we open another thread for cheaters so that we can compare notes.

You are allowed to criticize my stance on this but first think about it critically while you must have excel in the 3 categories as enumerated above.

Let the groove begins, maybe the sound of bomb blasts from North and South will wake our brother at the center to reality that all is not well.

But sincerely if sinners do not go to church, where else would they go?

A pastor can only preach, teach and lead, whatever you chose to do is entirely your business.

bashy_demy:
Well about the Magun part its only men that date married woman that will fall into that i never date married women i rather go for young girls so tell how am i gonna be a victim of magun though single and young girl abi na her papa/mama go put am for her body?

My brother, no try some jealous guys ooo, don't go near bororo girls, they are probably married from birth; and don't mess with Shuwa-arab girls, they don't rival and belief me they carry small knife everywhere.

Really, if a woman want to cheat, she is most likely to conceal her marital status, you cant be more careful.

I hope you'll pay me for the tips.

ronkebp:
MAGUN', na im dey kill most,

Yeepa!
Moogbe!

Magun don reach USA?
well, If you must know, anti-Magun exist.

tpia@:
please do not type rubbish here.

Do you have eye problem or problem in understanding English?
Please don't derail this thread as you did in some other ones.

I still do not understand the benefit in this NYSC scheme in the present situation, yet we claim we have National Assembly. funny enough, non of NA member will allow any of their children/family member to go anywhere near the troubled zones in this country.

I strongly suggest that corp members should form a forum and present a position paper to federal government, make plenty noise and see if something will not be done.

I though SW and SS governors said they will not allow their children to be posted to north for NYSC after post elelction crisis or it was just a political statement.

Ideally, one should expect that some state be flagged for NYSC scheme activities except on personal request as in the case with bauchi state.

tpia@:
This is how some men end up dead in strange places and nobody knows how or why they got there.

but they don't have to cheat on their wives for this to happen.

eddybanty:
@ Konsult,  Did u say we should be grateful to Obj for milking us dry? Do you know how much Obj made and is still making out of your so called phone

introduction!!! For your info,every time you recharge your MTN line, you recharge =N= 1:00K into OBJs account. That is why Naija(apology to Dora) no dey use *555*1*pin no# to recharge their mtn line  again. Rather they use *555*Pin no#. Now mtn has a subscriber base of 31 million+ and still counting since its introduction in 2004. carry your biro make u do the arithemetic how much Obj don make and still dey make per day!!!!! 

if u neva know,now u know.

Please substantiate with proofs.

konsult:
We should be for once grateful to OBJ. The phone you are holding is one of his achievements and lots more,
Even with all his wrong doings we can still count his blessings to Nigeria.A president is still a human being so as we criticize them let us also praise their good deeds and give room for lapses.GOD BLESS NIGERIA

It takes only a mature mind to appreciate a leader like OBJ.

An adage in yoruba says '' Eni pa oba kii gbe ilu'' meaning whoever kills the king does not stay in the community.
Deposition of a king is tantamount to killing a king, as the king cannot enter that community again.
Though it may not be the Olori's fault but situation concerning her led to the deposition.

I hope she has been having the renal failure before the fight, if not  , Oro pesi je.
Kai, i pity her children. May her soul RIP.

totorimi:
This is not the time for gentlemaness this is the time for action. If I may suggest 5 major things GEJ needs to do immediately.

1. Sack the entire GOCs especially those in the North and replace them immediately with fresh hands
2. Sack the IGP and replace immediately with a trusted,competent and tested police officer, then overhaul the police
3. Dissolve and reconstitute the board of PHCN
4. Setup a 3 year agricultural plan
5. Reorganise the national reorientation agency
6. Overhaul the police force
7. Merge the aviation sector
8. Place a red alert watch over IBB,Buhari, Atiku, Bakare and Yuguda
9. Declare a state of Emergency in Borno state

wishful thinking.
GEJ do not need your advice, PDP has already told him what to do.

chaircover:
Wow I didn’t know that this thread was still going. Having gone through most of the posts, I can see that my initial point has been proved and this is that even though many men cheat, not all men do and there are still a few who don’t/won’t.

This is a clear yes or no situation and I don’t think it matters what the reasons are either way. Cheating is a choice and is not a congenital disorder as some of you are trying to portray.

And to those saying integrity is not at stake here; if you married in a church then you are a lair. Lairs do not have integrity. You lied in front of your wife and all your guests saying those vows. Why not just ask the pastor to skip through the vows when you already knew that you had no intention of keeping them. How can you say you are a man of integrity if you lie through your teeth day in and day out  to your wife on your whereabouts etc? If you can so effortlessly lie to your wife, then why cant you lie to your employer or business partners?

Our Yoruba forefathers say that people who lie will steal and will eventually kill. Well you have to pay for sex with these women somehow and so many are tempted to steal . . . and of course some will not hesitate to kill whoever finds out that they have stolen.

And if it is indeed true that cheating is such a difficult thing to prevent because it is already coded into your DNA then why do you go to such great lengths to hide it from your wives? Are the men who don’t cheat sick & lack the Polygamous gene in their DNA?

The irony of the whole thing is that women are a lot cleverer at hiding these things and by far are more sophisticated in playing away games than men and  I hope that many of the men beating their chests saying that they cant play with the same toy for 2 years wont end up feeding and clothing another mans children for 20 years. What goes around comes around  o!

Seriously, if men took time to invest in their wives and families, they will find that most of what they are looking for in Sokoto is right under their sokoto.

Chaircover: Time is the only defining factor in this issue, ask men who have 40-50 years marriage experience.
''Ogbon ologbon ki je ka pe agba ni were''

ronkebp:
Infact i prefer it that way, it keeps everybody on their toes.

Na you sabi, think what ever you want to, i just gave you a small picture, ' in as much as you men do not want to think that your wife might cheat on you, it is better you do, it is not only the men that cheat, some women do too, especially those that are pretty and sexy, some men outside would want to have a taste, as you bleep other peoples wives, so your wives would be bleeped, with all leisure and sweat.!!!!!

Ronke-bp! 3x, you no wan carry last sha, na wah for you ooo.
I think you are in the category of ladies with good attitude please keep it up. but sincerely even if your husband is found cheating, your option above is not a solution. If you dare it in naija, you will be sent parking and another woman will take over your labour; even if court rule in your favor, you still have the family to contend with, even your parent will be disappointed and you may likely hear the story you've never been told before- from your parent.
You cannot keep a man on his toes, but he can keep himself on his toes- if he choose to.

ronkebp:
my husband is more scared of me cheating on him than him cheating on me, and we both know the KOKO,

Uhmmmm    , am I thinking aloud?

. . . drive carefully, you have just been warned   . . .

ronkebp:
I would add, that it is a 'useless, senseless and irresponsible man that would cheat on their wives, Most of the guys on this forum are justifying the reasons why men would and should cheat,WTF, is in Nigeria, that a husband would cheat on his wife and he would get away with it, thank God here in the States, most men will pay dearly for that mistake, I think women should wake up and know their rights.
   [color=#006600]Some of you don't believe that some men don't cheat and decide to keep their homes, because they are sensible, and knows what marraige is all about.
      Kunle-J above , made mention of different reasons a man would cheat on their wives, i pity you, there is no reason on earth, above the earth or under the earth, that a man/ woman should cheat on their spouse, but the level of thought and thinking nko?

Any man, that is not married yet and is already thinking of cheating on his wife, is creating a future doom for himself, his marriage and his family.

You are lucky you are in States but let me sound this note of warning to you:
If you are single, make sure you look for husband overthere,
If you are married, don't ever allow your husband to come home for whatever reason. They are never without sweet nigerian girls when they get to naija.
If you are so passionate about this issue, follow your mind and stay away from marriage, after-all it's better to remain forever single than be married to a cheat and see if you'll not crave for a cheating bastard by the time you clock 40 yrs

Bawss1:
A car’s flat tire is as a result of a fault not so? Will a properly maintained tire that is used correctly just go flat without any reason? Will a (good) man just because he is a man cheat on his wife? Anyways that was a rough analogy and can only be stretched so far. I think that at this point it is clear that many people actually like this idea that men will cheat at some point. What better way to shy away from the defect in character that they have acquired than to pass it off as natural.  

I will take this to mean that you have not personally maintain a car before (single), perhaps you just call your mechanic (husband) to fix it up anytime you have issue; that is if you get chance to do that at all (Oga-madam).

On the tyre analogy, an experienced driver understand that  a brand new tyre can give way anytime due to a lot of factors such as bad roads, sharp objects, excess pressure, loose valve etc etc. In fact a brand new car can breakdown without warning.

I would suggest you try another analogy, this car/tyre analogy is just too inadequate to drive off your point.

Really i will accept that not all men cheat their wives if 50 men out of 717,268 members on NL who have been married for 50 years can testify that they have never cheated on their wives in their 50 years of marriage. why 50 years? because i belief that for a man to be that old in marriage, he must be at least 75 years old, he must has seen it all and probably sexually irrelevant/inactive  to sexual pleasure than younger men.

Bawss1:
Perhaps a rough analogy to make my points clearer. The fact that a car breaks down on the highway doesn’t mean all cars must break down or that it is in the nature of good cars to break down. The breakdown occurs only when the car is badly driven or poorly maintained. So also it is not natural that all men will cheat unless off course as a result of weak character or no integrity. Again I will repeat myself: Men should stop hiding under this excuse that it’s in our nature to cheat. Cheating is not natural!

HA HA HA HA HA HA
Read you comment again and criticize yourself.
Look at it this way, If a car did not break down today does not mean it will not break down all, it is a matter of time. It could be as small as having a flat tyre. Isn't it suffice to say that car break down is natural with cars.
HA HA HA HA HA HA

Nakingson:
Real Men don't cheat!
As a matter of fact am 6 yrs into the
my marriage but i never cheat my wife
4 once.
Temptations due come but thank God 4
the presence of Holy Spirit.
'That has been my secret to overcoming all
sorts of temptations.

Am sure som1 out there, especially
the doubting Thomases like d few earlier posters
will b saying am lying.
Well, no human being can bear me witness but
my conscience does.

I've concluded in my heart b4 going into marriage
that satisfaction in marriage and in life
generally is not out there,
in fact, its not going to be gotten anywhere,
U HAVE TO MAKE IT HAPPEN - QED!

Afterall, what are the reasons for marriage?
- Its God's idea
- 2 are better than 1 cos they have better reward 4 their labour
- sex (sex is either fornication or adultery outside marriage )
- u can only multiply/have children legally in marriage
- for comfort, etc.

If u're stil cheating on your spouse, pls stop it,
Nemesis will catch up with u or your children or even your grand-children
or even your generation and u knw what,
The repercusion is hurrible, Do leave a good LEGACY.

What u want in another woman, make it happen to your wife so
She can attract u, send her out to participate in alot os activities,
take her out to functions, Behind her up to your taste,
Those so called babes don't just drop from d sky.

The wife of your youth can stil happen men!

U can make greatness common if only u can be faithfull in marriage!
It has worked 4 me, its stil working and will continue to work as The Lord Liveth.

Goodluck to u all.

Guy, stop there. No make me vex ooo. Try and be on the stance of reality, 6 years into marriage is not enough to brand yourself a sincere husband: no offense intended though.

If you must know, I sincerely dated my wife for 13 good years before marriage and i have spent more years in marriage than you; simply put, I and my wife have been together for more than 20 years. To me, that is the short-run, but as time fly by it just started happening, truth is I cant say exactly how or when it started. In my case it just started flowing naturally not on a regular basis though ( 2wice a year at most and av done some years without it) and at most a couple of weeks max. I can never be a victim of any love child nor 2nd wife palava because i know the odds and my ladies understand and are ok with it. My strength is: keep it very brief and simple.

The irony is that if you are opportuned to meet me and my family and you are single, you may wish for a committed husband like me, and if you are married, you'll recommend me as a role model to your husband not to add that my wife would kill you if you dare connect her wonderful husband to infidelity.

Please ladies, don't crucify me on this, am only responding to the thread from a realist point of view. I no dey deceive myself.

maybe i should just add another dimension to this issue for d sake of our friends outside d country.
This days in naija, if a lady wants a man. she go all out to achieve this to d extent of jazzing him up and to think that married men and comfortable guys are their target for whatever reasons.
Look at this scenario, how many men can bost that they have not backslidden in their commitment God talkless of humans like themselves in this context their wives, what is d % and how many wives are lucky enof to be in this category? often times some of them end up in disaster of a lovechild or 2nd wife.
I am not saying there are no exceptions but in my opinion as naija is concerned, it is a matter of time. funny enough those women will be too preoccupied with marrital issues to share their true life experience on NL.

Having read d different contributions to this topic, i would suggest the poster defined d term 'cheat' that will give a clearer picture of the context of cheating.
If cheating is defined as a situation that is sexually inclusive, then I will argue to the contrary.
If however it is defined as a relationship with another lady apart from ones wife and it's sexually exclusive, I will conclude that all men are guity. perharp the chance to draw down has not or did not present itself. some men are not out to cheat, cheat come to them.
I agree that some men can withstand tough temptations on the short run but belief everyman has a breaking point at the long run. In my opinion, the degree at which each man get involved determines the test of sincerity. As a matter of fact, a man who has a very clean slate are most dangerous.
My precious ladies/wives in d house, I salute your commitments and beliefs but please stand on realistic stance because of high BP, honestly I refused to be delusioned that a man can attain perfection in this matter when he is not God.
ent itself. some men are not out to cheat, cheat come to them.
I agree that some men can withstand tough temptations on the short run but belief everyman has a breaking point at the long run. In my opinion, the degree at which each man get involved determines the test of sincerity. As a matter of fact, a man who has a very clean slate are most dangerous.
My precious ladies/wives in d house, I salute your commitments and beliefs but please stand on realistic stance because of high BP, honestly I refused to be delusioned that a man can attain perfection in this matter when he is not God.

tpia@:
it wasnt this bad before- are the floods getting worse every year and something needs to be done to decongest lagos.

I'd rather think Lagos is having it share of the implications of global climatic change, aggravated by poor human factor in the metropolis. Note also that flood killed 8 people in northern state of Katsina.
De-congesting Lagos is a good option if they can partner with neighboring states because i don't see Lagos raising the type of fund required to sustain it under current circumstances and population.