₦airaland Forum

ChristoBam:
Last season, City were the ones in the best position to sign Haaland. Probably the only ones that could, given the costs.

So imagine he was at United, with our disaster of a season. He wouldn't have got to City? You're having a laugh.

City wouldn’t bid for him if he was at United - that’s the point. This is like expecting Ramos to join Barcelona.

ChristoBam:
How's it not possible? When he has a release clause. Bro just agree the deal was impossible.

How many times has a United player gone straight to Man City?

ChristoBam:
Firstly, Man City paid 100m for Grealish but they won't pay for Haaland?



Secondly, you know release clauses are compulsory in Spain, right? That's why they go through the trouble.

Any player that comes to an EPL club with a release clause wants to leave at a certain time. Haaland wanted to come here and leave after 3 years or so. Now tell me why in this world, they'd agree to a release clause of an impossible amount?

You said we should have put in a release clause of 900m. Dortmund agreed to a release clause of 70m. Why the hell will he choose United?

Haaland can’t sign for United and then go to City.

It’s literally impossible.

United would have offered triple the wages Dortmund offer with plenty of commercial deals. He would have become the face of Man Utd with the team built around him.

ChristoBam:
He'd literally be playing for City now if we accepted the clause.

And how the fvck are they going to accept a clause higher than 100m? This is the reason he's not here. You're funny sha.

City won’t pay that amount for any player.

kokaneprodigy:
Are you going to include the clause after he has signed?
Cos I’m thinking how he’ll sign a contract with a ridiculous amount in release clause, perhaps with a gun to his head.
Your emotion is getting the best of you.

You people don’t understand how release clauses work. I would implore you to go and check the release clauses of all Barca players during that era when they were unbeatable.

Ansu Fati and Pedri(several tiers lower than Haaland) have €1 billion clauses. Messi had €700m clause in his final contract at Barca. Vinicius has €700m clause, Benzema has €1 billion clause.

All what these means is if you can pay the release clauses, the player is yours(no argument). This was how PSG were able to buy Neymar. Neymar’s clause was €220m. PSG called their bluff and they paid and the player became PSG’s property.

ovoP:
halaand had nothing to do with ole.. Its d fact that he wanted a release clause in his contract, and united refused..

Why would United refuse a release clause? If Haaland wanted to sleep with the Queen of England as part of his personal terms, we should have given him.

A club that has failed massively from making good money from transfer sales should have welcomed a release clause.

Haaland wanted a release clause? No problem. Set it to £900m. If any club is stupid enough to pay that amount to prise Haaland out of United, it is good news.

When was the last time United sold a player for profit? £89m Pogba walked away free to another club. That’s how bad the decision makers at United have been.

I wonder how City were able to deal with Raiola but United couldn’t.

Ole and Woodward blamed their incompetence on the agent.

Ole losing this gem of a striker should have got him sacked. The football results shouldn’t even have factored into it.

Career hat tricks at age 22…..Haaland leads by quite a distance.

eph12:
ETH is also unable to convince Dejong to join him

De Jong had contract issues with Barca. De Jong want the money owed to be paid and United aren’t ready to pay Barca’s debt.

Haaland was a free pass playing for RB Salzburg then. Anybody could have gotten him then. Yet, Ole bungled it.

Expert17:
He created a clean chance for Elanga today and against Liverpool, the idiot missed both.

He should be doing more though.

A player of his quality should be providing 4-5 big chances per game. He was doing that regularly at the start of his United career.

eph12:
I don't have confidence in Bruno's creativity anymore. Looks like he needs a rest

He tries too hard and I am not sure about the quality of the strikers.

Elanga and Rashford won’t start for any of the top 6 sides.

Expert17:
I don't know how we miss out on Vlahovic and Haaland.

Ole was the problem.

If we had Mourinho when Haaland was discovered, he would have become a United player.

Ole could not convince his ex player to join Man Utd. It’s the most embarrassing fiasco you could ever read about.

eph12:
We actually need to replace Bruno in that midfield if we're being serious. He's better playing as a striker or ss

Bruno is fine.

United just need to settle the DM position and bring in FDJ.

The midfield 3 should be Casemiro dovetailing Bruno and FDJ.

Casemiro - Destroyer
De Jong - Passer
Bruno/Eriksen - Creator

Raumdeuter, please come outside.

Expert17, come outside.

Expert17:
BoomBucks

Remember our discussion?

It looks like ETH wanted to play De Jong as DLP/DM.

De Jong is a cheat code though.

His progressive carries and passes are out of this world.

United haven’t had a player like that since Anderson or Giggs(when he plays as a CM).

Look at this…..

Frenkie things 💙❤️@DeJongFrenkie21 pic.twitter.com/6rV6G2jfLK

— AM_0308__🇵🇸 (@AM_10____) August 7, 2022

Odunharry:
This is bad though.. Even though people will want to argue they are the owner and can spend the clubs money as they wish. The club is investing in itself, not Glazers putting their money..

Very useless owners.

United won on Monday and all the transfer news have slowed down. There are rumors they are already backing out of all the transfer targets.

De Jong, Antony and Gakpo would be here by now if United had lost 0-6 on Monday. These owners just want the bare minimum. They are not interested in competing.

SideshowBob:
They also plan to sell some of the club's tv rights income like barka. That family is a leech.

Nobody would care about this if they were investing in the squad by purchasing quality players.

United haven’t had a quality DM since Carrick retired. Carrick should have been replaced in 2014.

We still have players purchased 11 years ago by SAF in the squad.

Odunharry:
For the 1st and 2nd pix if I understand clearly, Liverpool and United bn the biggest English club. The Glazers have been receiving dividends for several years while Liverpool owners haven't collected any .

The 2nd, other clubs owner have been investing in the club while the Glazers uses the clubs money.??

The 3rd is the interest paid for debt/borrowings?

Exactly.

The Glazers are the only owners who take dividends from their club out of the other 20 PL clubs.

Other owners invest their own money into their clubs, the Glazers take from theirs.

The 3rd chart is the worst. United have paid £500m+ on interests alone and the debt hasn’t reduced a bit.

Imagine collecting a loan of N50m in 2005, you have paid N45m in interest alone and your debt is still like N48m.

Ihebu4chelsea:
Guys Please I dont understand why a Large section of the Utd Fan Base are always Insulting the Owners ,( Glazer's Family) I want to know why!! Are they not backing Man utd Enough Financialy? What do you guys want them to do? Come inside the field and deliver Trophies?

This is why?

patrickmuf:
That was a stupid move, he was lucky it was Salah and not another players who would have been more aggressive thus creating a scene that could have warranted the ref to act...

He was on a yellow so, it was not necessary...

You don’t get a yellow for delaying a restart.

It was United’s ball. Bruno can hold the ball as much as possible. It’s up to the referee to stop the clock or add extra one minute to the added time.

If anything, Salah should have been carded for dragging the ball that isn’t theirs. Liverpool just scored, it’s United’s ball. Their urgency to restart is not relevant.

raumdeuter:
For EPL records
This is Crouch

Any reason Michael Owen and Aguero didnt make it despite scoring more EPL goals overall than Crouch

Cahill = 5ft 10
Crouch = 6ft 7

Cahill still cannibalized Crouch to score a header.

raumdeuter:
Among the top 11 on your screenshot, How many of them were below 6ft?

Why is anyone below 6ft even on the list if heading the ball is about height?

raumdeuter:
Ronaldo is also a very tall striker and has a good leap too. Ronaldo is not 5ft9 like Lisandro.
Lisandro and Messi are the type that stay in front of the line in school assembly

Ronaldo is only 5 inches taller than Lisandro.

That’s the length of a finger. It makes no difference.

Heading the ball is about positioning and timing.

raumdeuter:
He played for sides who barely attacked and spent most of the time defending like Stoke Burnley Portsmouth

If you are the best header and only 1 cross come into the box all game. What can you do

He played for sides where every corner, free kick, goal kick were long balls. He even had Rory Delap’s throw-in as a weapon.


Statistically, Cahill is a more prolific header than Crouch.

raumdeuter:
For EPL records
This is Crouch

Any reason Michael Owen and Aguero didnt make it despite scoring more EPL goals overall than Crouch

Crouch has had 468 appearances in the PL.

More than double that of Cahill.

In your list of the most headed goals in Europe, why isn’t Crouch the highest - seeing that he’s at least 6 inches taller than Ronaldo?

raumdeuter:
For EPL records
This is Crouch

Any reason Michael Owen and Aguero didnt make it despite scoring more EPL goals overall than Crouch

Cahill scored more headed goals than Drogba and Adebayor but heading is about height. �

raumdeuter:
And taller people do not have this timing and positioning? or its only for short people?

This is the list of players who have scored the most headed goals. Point how man of them are below 6ft. How come Messi and Aguero are not there? Is it that they dont have timing and positioning

Why isn’t Peter Crouch there?

raumdeuter:
Car with brakes have accidents all the time, Why do we need brakes

Because car with brakes have accidents all the time that have nothing to do with brakes.

raumdeuter:
They were carrying a deadbeat VVD thus all their movement came to nothing

VVD was the reason Sancho made Milner lay in the green pastures?

VVD was the reason Trent got caught in a passing triangle?

VVD was the reason Alisson dived without a shot taken?

VVD must be responsible for the global inflation.

raumdeuter:
Its easier for shorter players to get dominated in the air than shorter players

It is not.

Heading the ball is about positioning and timing.

How many times has Cahill dominated taller defenders? How tall is Tim Cahill?

raumdeuter:
Na here we go dey. When its time to face tall strikers and not Firmno goal

Tall strikers score all the time against tall defenders.

So why should it be different for Lisandro?

So the moment a tall striker scores against Lisandro, the height must have been the issue not that it’s a regular occurrence in football?

The way you people process logic is funny.

raumdeuter:
In the time he was standing his ground, Trent moved, Gomez moved, Milner moved but VVD stood his ground and supervising the goal

And what was the net outcome of all these movements?

raumdeuter:
He is not paid for doing nothing, He is paid for doing something. Better do something and fail than do nothing.

If the plan is to do nothing then he could as well stay at home

He stood his ground….. he was covering the space where Alisson fell down and his big frame forced Sancho to go the other way.

How much space can one defender cover? Should he have transformed into Incredible Hulk to cover the entire goal?

patrickmuf:
If it was VVD that sold himself with that slide, they wouldn't have blamed the player behind for not rushing out with the speed of sound to block the shot but rather VVD for going to the ground so fast...

Absolutely!

Anything to protect the English assets in the PL. Milner was more at fault for that goal than VVD.

Expert17:
He's at fault, because he did nothing.

He was just useless

This is side view, even TAA was trying to help

So he’s at fault for doing nothing

If he did something and the goal was conceded then his effort would have made Michael Oliver disallow the goal?