European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Illimitable: 9:28pm On Aug 15, 2022 |
ChristoBam: I don't rely on this nonsense and I'm sure you don't unless it fits a certain agenda. A player in that game can get high ratings by just being anonymous.
We were trashed 4-0. Everyone was terrible. There's nothing like top 3 performers. Ronaldo lost the fvcking ball that lead to that shot on target that caused the first goal. Unnecessarily holding on to the ball till he gets fouled. Different players had shots on target in that game except Ronaldo, who is the striker.
Don't come here to tell me he was one of the best kinikan He lost the ball or he was fouled? Which is which?  |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Illimitable: 9:23pm On Aug 15, 2022 |
Expert17: Diaz and salah will cause havoc.
Diaz just scored  Palace players just stood by and let Diaz snake his way from the flank to the centre to release a shot. Vieira should make everyone of them benchpress 200kg weights after the game. |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Illimitable: 9:19pm On Aug 15, 2022 |
Gboy1026: Why should he speak against it? Have Tinubu ever spoken against any of Buhari wicked policy. So you are admitting Obi and IPOB are one and the same like Tinubu/Buhari are of the same party?  |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Illimitable: 9:18pm On Aug 15, 2022 |
Expert17: This Nunez will flop last last
 So Nunez would miss the game against United? That’s good news for Lisandro. |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Illimitable: 9:15pm On Aug 15, 2022 |
GoddyOra: United is dragging the GOAT into the mud. That man would cook easily in a super team like Bayern, Madrid, City or PSG but age ain't on his side any more to attract their interest.
It's just sad that some United fans doesn't even appreciate the little he can offer to their shit team at his age. Man literally could have sneaked in a goal last game despite their shambolic display but was unlucky. They can only hate. Nobody can stop the GOAT. |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Illimitable: 9:13pm On Aug 15, 2022 |
Expert17: Opta won't record it as a direct error as Erikson touched the ball.
Just look at the image, Eriksen was under pressure and Maguire was free but the mumu GK picked the wrong man. De Gea has learnt never to give Maguire the ball after Tielemans goal against Leicester(last season I think). Eriksen should have done better with that image you posted. He was first to the ball, he could have shot the ball out of play for a corner and then slap De Gea afterwards. |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Illimitable: 9:10pm On Aug 15, 2022 |
EmmanuelScott1: So anybody observing the Monday sit at home is in support of IPOB.
He has spoken publicly about it, browse it. They are all terrorists. I understand many people can’t openly defy such an order in the fear of retaliation or violence but Obi is too big a figure to be threatened by such. He should be telling his people to defy that order. We can’t be complaining about Buhari’s government when billions of naira are being pissed away every Monday in the SE at the behest of a terrorist. |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Illimitable: 9:03pm On Aug 15, 2022 |
ovoP: why are we blaming everyone bar ronaldo.. if ororo was dropping 8/10 every weak, I will understand.. see juve shining again after letting ronaldo leave.. their players look happy.. they won't win every match, but when dey lose, they'll regroup, not start blame each other. That's team work not I'm so good, and you all are bad dressing room. Yea, they won every trophy last season after Ronaldo left.  |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Illimitable: 9:01pm On Aug 15, 2022 |
EmmanuelScott1: Simon Ekpa a known IPOB leader has been dragging P.O up-and-down since obi declared for presidency, and here you're yarning dust. Those IPOB account you're accusing of staning P.O re they not Nigerians, Gumi and miyetti Allah that's supporting tinubu, re they not terrorist sympathizers. Yet, Peter Obi has been observing the Monday sit-at-home for months now. He’s never defied the order or spoken publicly against it. A leader obeying the order of a terrorist is what? |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Illimitable: 8:59pm On Aug 15, 2022 |
Expert17: WRONG, it was De Gea's fault. That is a no-pass zone.
Any mistake there will surely lead to a scoring opportunity, he should have passed wide or launched the ball as Erikson had a man on him even before the pass. It’s not his fault. Eriksen got to the ball first and his pass was anticipated and intercepted. That is on him. I can name many players in the league that would have received that ball and turned the pressing player. Eriksen was too predictable. Pogba used to receive passes in that zone and batter any player trying to take the ball from him. OPTA didn’t count that incident as a De Gea error anyway so your opinion isn’t the fact. |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Illimitable: 8:53pm On Aug 15, 2022 |
Expert17: So the 2 goals took out just 0.7 points?
Base score of 6.0, and Sancho finished the game with 6.4 despite hiding all game? Shaw 6.1  Everyone starts at 6.0 The error would take some points out and the good things he did afterwards would add some points. The net score after 90 mins was 5.3.
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European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Illimitable: 8:50pm On Aug 15, 2022 |
GoddyOra: Nah Eriksen doesn't deserve a 6/10 ahead of Maguire who gets a 3/10 that was easily United best defender.
Same Ericksen was directly involved in two goals causing United to lose the game. Man missed United only big chance created the whole game. (That chance was created by Rashford/Elanga I ain't sure).
That's why rating apps are better than blog ratings that is subjective to individual bias or sentiments.
Check Ericksen vs Ronaldo stats in the same game for better objectivity. 42 touches and 96.3% pass accuracy. Ronaldo is god, bro. WTF?? Expert17: So the 2 goals took out just 0.7 points?
Base score of 6.0, and Sancho finished the game with 6.4 despite hiding all game? Shaw 6.1  The 2nd goal wasn’t De Gea error. Eriksen wasn’t strong enough. Pogba would have received that ball and murdered the pressing player with sheer strength. |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Illimitable: 8:44pm On Aug 15, 2022 |
Expert17: Fair enough, but I will work with the attached rating. This is an opinion. It’s not fact based. |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Illimitable: 8:43pm On Aug 15, 2022 |
Expert17: Saves after giving out 2 goals??
He can't score more than 3 with such performance The base score is 6.0. Everyone starts from 6.0 |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Illimitable: 8:39pm On Aug 15, 2022 |
Expert17: No GK can have a rating of 5/10 after giving away 2 goals and shaky all game.
Shaw 6/10, Rashford 7/10, .... maybe I watched a different game What about the saves he made?  |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Illimitable: 8:35pm On Aug 15, 2022 |
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European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Illimitable: 8:34pm On Aug 15, 2022 |
What a goal by Zaha.
Rashford could never have scored like that. |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Illimitable: 8:23pm On Aug 15, 2022 |
GoddyOra: Some sets of United fans are the dumbest football fans I have ever come across online. Always regurgitating shits from the media.
Any sane person that's still of the opinion that Ronaldo is the cause of United failures by now (August 2022) after all the glaring evidence on ground deserves no further engagement. They need to learn the basics of football first before engaging the real football watchers. They are all Messi fans. They are awed with the way Ronaldo returned to the PL at 37 and didn’t miss a step. In arguably the worst United team in the PL era, Ronaldo still proved his worth. Messi in the best team in France couldn’t even be voted in the best XI in Ligue 1 by his fellow professional players and he’s also missing in the top 30 players shortlisted for Ballon d’Or. Messi fans don’t like this so they dump down on Ronaldo that he’s the reason United are shit. Before he arrived, United were winning PL/CL every season.  |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Illimitable: 8:20pm On Aug 15, 2022 |
ovoP: There's no team we're they are world class in all positions.. if we play well as a team, we will hide their deficiencies.. it's not like we were scoring goals and those 1s were letting in 1 Look at this team. Tell me one position in this team that did not have a world class player in it.
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European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Illimitable: 8:16pm On Aug 15, 2022 |
ovoP: ronaldo made that team, because he's ronaldo and strikers were not the ones scoring goals last season. He made the team because he’s Ronaldo?  Mention a centre forward that scored more league goals than Ronaldo last season. How come Messi didn’t make UNFP team of the season because he is Messi? |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Illimitable: 8:11pm On Aug 15, 2022 |
Karleb: ...and Ronaldo is no way the reason we are abysmal. It’s Ronaldo’s fault. He gets into the head of the players and they suddenly forget how to pass, press, tackle, win headers and make intelligent runs. Ronaldo is a god that controls his team mates and even when he was in Portugal mourning his dead son, his colleagues were still controlled by him from Lisbon. You have to laugh at some of these United fans with this obtuse reasoning. Man Utd would have finished 15th last season without Ronaldo. |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Illimitable: 8:05pm On Aug 15, 2022 |
ChristoBam: Unfortunately, it's a team sports.
A 7 performance for 90% of this season is better than a 9 for 40% of the season.
The latter will win you all the accolades and personal awards but the former helps the team better. How did the team fare in the games without Ronaldo last season? Let’s agree for the sake of argument that Ronaldo is bad for the team, he doesn’t press and he doesn’t listen to instruction and he’s too arrogant, right? How many games did his colleagues win when Ronaldo was on the bench or when he was mourning his son last season? |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Illimitable: 8:02pm On Aug 15, 2022 |
ovoP: an we finished with 58 points.. like I said, team sport, not individual sport. You finished 58 points because of the other players. Ronaldo played his part, did the others play their part? If they did, why didn’t any of them make PFA team of the season? |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Illimitable: 8:00pm On Aug 15, 2022 |
ChristoBam: Lol Mbappe sef get crazy toxicity.
Anyone will take Ronaldo's toxicity at his prime. But a toxic Ronaldo at 38 lmao? You're having a laugh.
Btwn, not saying Ronaldo is toxic. I'm reacting to your post. I am not saying he’s toxic as well, i was only using the term sarcastically. Any demands for some high standards is seen as toxicity for those who cannot attain such standards. See what Toxicity has done for Ronaldo…..
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European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Illimitable: 7:55pm On Aug 15, 2022 |
ovoP: the 18 goals in total wasn't even spread.. he had like 2 hat tricks there.. and some brace.. he blanked in a lot of games. I play fpl so I know this.. He scored the most goals against the top 6 sides in the league. He won the most player of the month awards He won the most MOTM awards for Man Utd. He deservedly made the PFA team of the season. He did all this at the age of 37 in the hardest league in the world. Even if you are a witch, you have to respect CR7. |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Illimitable: 7:50pm On Aug 15, 2022 |
ovoP: City have scored over 100 goals in the past seasons.. they were playing without a striker.. football is a team game.. not an individual game..
Werner wanted to leave, it's not like Chelsea wanted to sell him.. lukaku isn't a team player and toxic like ororo, so he was shipped out.. Chelsea didn't need that toxicity Ororo’s toxicity won him 5 CL titles. Man Utd’s positivity won them 3 CL titles after 150+ years of existence. I think I prefer Ororo’s toxicity. |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Illimitable: 7:25pm On Aug 15, 2022 |
ovoP: united is not holding him.. If an offer comes today.. they'll let him go.. nobody wants an unhappy player.. reason dey are letting players go on loan, even in a thin squad.. martial did not score 18 league goals, but others scored.. no Chelsea player scored up to 18 league goals last season, but they fared better than us.. football is a team game, not individual game.. if Ronaldo leaving allows us to be a better team, fine.. No Chelsea player scored up to 18 league goals but there was a consequence for that. Since then, they have sold Lukaku and Werner(their 2 best strikers). I don’t know why you people discount the importance of goals in a team. You people would rather rely on serial failures like Martial/Rashford to get United back to the top. |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Illimitable: 7:15pm On Aug 15, 2022 |
ChristoBam: The list would be fake if it had United on the list. Cuz Glaziers won't invest shiit into United. Rather, they take money out of the club. That list is for Nitrogen(The Glazer Apologist). |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Illimitable: 7:10pm On Aug 15, 2022 |
BlaqFaze: Fofana is not for sale... didn't stop Chelsea from making bids
De jong is not for sale... didn't stop Man U from making bids
Anthony Gordon is not for sale... didn't stop Chelsea from making bids All these players were put on sale. Barca is begging De Jong to leave but they owe him. Fofana/Gordon were put on sale, we know their price tag. Man Utd have not named Ronaldo’s price and they have insisted they will not sell him. Ronaldo must honor his contract. If he’s for sale, why did they drag Alex Ferguson from his retirement bed in a closed door meeting to beg Ronaldo to stay? |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Illimitable: 7:07pm On Aug 15, 2022 |
TrebleChamp: The bolded should be simple enough na. Since the useless board is not signing players, Ten Hag should do himself a huge favour and leave. But sadly he won't resign because the salary is very good, or he will stay on until he is sacked so as to collect payoff. This club matter don already tire me already This is why I like Conte. When Inter told him there would be no funds in the summer to defend the Serie A title, he left them immediately. No manager should be letting a useless club stain their reputation. If the results go bad, these clubs won’t spare you a sack letter. So why should managers spare their incompetence. ETH should leave, let McClaren take over and send the club to relegation. Maybe then, United fans who are yet to see the imminent doom would understand how rotten the club has become. This is the list of owners who have put their own money into their club. Guess what? The Glazers are conspicuously missing from this list. They would rather suck from the club than put their own money. Any serious professional should avoid Man Utd like a plague.
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European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Illimitable: 6:57pm On Aug 15, 2022 |
ChristoBam: That's silly. Any club interested should put in a bid or make an offer for him. If we reject it, they put in an higher bid or walk away.
We don't need to place a value on him before other clubs show interest.
What they want is for us to place a low value on him. Like 8m or so. So as to boost interest from other clubs. And we won't do that. Man Utd have insisted he’s NOT for SALE. There’s nothing any club can do for a player that isn’t in the market. This is why his agent is asking Man Utd to put a price on him(put him back in the market). |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Illimitable: 6:47pm On Aug 15, 2022 |
ovoP: standard this, standard that.. let himbtake it elsewhere.. oh wait, nobody wants him. A player is undermining the manager, and you keep complaining standards.. I can't wait for martial to send him to the bench.. REAL, Juve, ronaldo has always had problems, but nobody cared as long as they where winning.. we have many issues as a club, but letting ronaldo go, is 1 less at least, for the peace of the dressing room. Anthony Martial has to score up to 18 league goals in one season first and foremost before he can have a conversation with Ronaldo. Ronaldo isn’t undermining the manager. The manager is undermining himself for even having the temerity to think he can succeed with Maguire and Shaw. Ronaldo’s issue is simple. Give me quality players so I can win for Man Utd. If United cannot provide that, they should let him leave to where he can win. United should enjoy their relegation battle with Fulham and Forest. |