₦airaland Forum

illusion2:
THIS IS RIDICULOUS !!!!  WITH TEN MEN ?!

I've said we should forget about all these periodic euphoria & focus on our numerous problems - YAR'ADULL,NEPA,MEND,CORRUPTION etc

^{nairaland go crash dis nite}  

Beaf:
Put simply, Zimbabwe is getting bleeped.

Bravesfc:
Sadly, we do not employ our leaders based on past records of success and show of ability to understand, analyse and make good judgements, rather we corronate them along lines of inheritance; they in turn proceed to appoint similarly ignorant advisers ( we refer to them as party loyals who have degrees in whatever field you may want, just name it, but never posses a record for meaningful contribution to the field -- what a joke ) .

Until this country's leadership selection process is truly based on achievement cum qualification records, we will continue to get it wrong at policy development, intercontinental contracts and agreements. In every contract, all parties must protect their own interest, but because our leaders do not even understand the contract, not to talk of seeing the underlying long term loss to be incured than the immediate short term gain to the economy and their own pockects and image, they cannot but continue to serve the western world who have realised this and will continue to boast of their ability to manage us.


Go and study the profile of all British and US govenors, senators, presidents and you will understand why they are succesful at international assignments. They are not people who have failed careerwise or at the local level. Look at Nigerian govenors, senators and all the others officials and you will understand why we are have this thread in play.

duduspace:
Oga Illusion, I am sorry sir but don't act like the biased elder who only approaches issues from one angle. Did you see this?

Anyways, I will tone down the rhetoric but bottom line is that Liverfool is still in trouble.

duduspace:
You have the right to hold any opinion yu want to hold about me cos for all I know, you could also be one of those looney women who run unto the pitch naked in the heat of the moment but that is of no relevance on this forum.
The characteristics of a shitty team (note that I didnt say a shitty club) includes losing 3 out of their first 8 games particularly to lesser or equal opposition.

Seun:
We were once number 8 in Nigeria. Then Facebook and the spam problem struck and we fell.
We're back at number 10 now, which is lovely, thanks to the much hated antispam bot.
Being spam-free may be enough to hold our position on the short term,
but we need to innovate. If we don't, the site will fade away.
But first, I want to rearchitect the entire forum:
I need a firm foundation to build on.

See also:
http://www.alexa.com/topsites/category/Top/Regional/Africa/Nigeria

uplawal:
if Allah permit it,i would love to marry one

ROSSIKE:
Today, the Zimbabwean economy is growing at 7% annually. They are coming back. They are learning to drive their car.

ROSSIKE:
Here's where you miss the point. Even an honest leader -  a saint in fact - who comes into power in Nigeria, and is told immediately upon assumption of power, by the IMF or World Bank, to confirm that Nigeria will continue to abide by her ''international commitments'' to ''free-market reforms'' as operated by previous administrations, and the new leader says ''well of course yes. Nigeria will maintain all commitments to you, our international partners, and will do nothing to discourage foreign investment in the country, and will maintain continuity in policy implementation etc etc, '', once that is done, the country's been HAD again.

debosky:
Chelski was clearly better - more desire and determination from their strikers. Torres was being a pretty boy while DD was destroying the Liverpool defence. I don't know why Rafa will start Riera ahead of Yossi given his form at the moment, and clearly y'all are missing Alonso.

3 defeats so early? Highly unusual for Liverpool, but still too early to say much about the title.

sjeezy8:
China was never colonized so they never went through what Nigeria or other Africans have gone through.
Chinese Imperialism is what boosted their Economy- they profit of off capitalist
The chinese are doing what the british and America have been doing for YEARS. The only difference is the investing which gives Africans short term gain and the Chinese long term gain by having the price control in Africa. Africa is selling its sell piece by piece to foreign based companies.  America is highly indebted to China aswell

Chinese influence in Africa

WarriBoyz:
I agree with point 1 (but not 1a). I also agree with points 2 and as a matter of course, 3. However on your other points, Africa will never be a united 'state'. It is unrealistic beyond imagining to think that would ever work. Even the few tribes in a place like Sierra Leone cannot get along, not to talk of trying to align Africa's several COUNTRIES as one cohesive block. I agree that a sea change in the general mindset is required, to combat this 'foreign creep' of ideals and culture. More appropriately stated, we have to salvage and restore the important parts of our culture that survived the brutalization of the colonial period. While at the same time incorporating the technology and ideas that serve us best from the colonists. After all, sub-saharan Africa was severely lagging behind the colonial powers when they arrived, in technological know-how. To be honest the most important thing for Nigeria now is a re-emphasis on education and an inward focus on improving ourselves. I want to see an alignment between African government that goes way beyond fancy speeches in state capitals. We need to build strong economic ties between the various African states to reduce our dependence on the West and East for imports.

We have a severe imbalance of trade with the West that serves them best and us least. But part of our problem is our youths have become propagandized to value products from the West while ignoring their own culture. Everyone wants their fancy Nike shoes and McD's burgers. Where is the encouragement of local industry? Where is the pride for Nigerian made goods? I want to see land reform and a phased economic expansion plan from the Government (agriculture->basic infrastructure->value-added industry->service industry). Its hard to believe that after 50 years of independence we have not built good basic infrastructure which is the backbone for economic development.

Instead we continue to export low priced resources, while importing high cost finished goods. No way we will ever advance with that kind of a 'strategy'! In all fairness, the pressures on us are huge, these neo-colonial powers have been playing this game for a very long time. But a united country can do wondrous things.

And for historical reference, I hope my brothers on here remember that China also suffered at the hands of colonial powers. Even more so than Nigeria did. Branding them an 'evil power' when in fact, we are the ones encouraging trade ties with them, is odd to say the least.

ROSSIKE:
illusion2 said:
Oh dear. Botswana, in the league of ''serious nations''? How so?
Serious nations in what sense? How many cars or airplanes or new technologies are being released in Botswana? How many factories or industries are in Botswana? Look, I'll teach you a few things about Botswana, and how this ties in perfectly with what is being said here.
In the 80s and 90s, Botswana was the fastest growing economy not just in Africa, but in the entire world. A small country with less than 20 million people, they had vast quantities of diamonds and other minerals. A stable system of govt provided a high standard of education, and public infrastructure. All that was left was for investors from across the world to pour in and turn that nation into Africa's first Tiger economy.
But what happened?
Nothing.
No one came.
Those who came where interested primarily in extractive industries, mining diamonds and other minerals for export, NOT TO ADD VALUE to those primary products WITHIN BOTSWANA.

ROSSIKE:
Brazil? Brazil was (and is) a Portuguese colony, whose wealth, much like America's, was built, not on any economic ''wizardry'', but rather on the free labour of captured African slaves, and is a country that has been independent since 1822!! She has few resources apart from Sugar, so is not a designated ''permanent source of raw materials'' and thus has little or no problem attracting western investors.

ROSSIKE:
India is almost identical to Nigeria in terms of the levels of corruption and poverty. In fact in many cases it's far worse. over 500 million Indians are illiterate. India still suffers from power cuts, corrupt police, and such other ills. Their leaders practice the Washington Consensus, and the people have grossly suffered as a result, much as this is rarely highlighted by the Western Media.

ROSSIKE:
China? I'm really glad you mentioned China. First of all China has one thing Africa lacks, that is a unified centralised administration. China's population is twice that of Africa's, yet they have ONE central govt while Africa has 57!

ROSSIKE:
Take Zimbabwe for example. Zimbabwe is one of the richest places on earth in terms of natural resources, but a country like Britain, WITH NO RESOURCES, can impose ''economic sanctions'' on Zimbabwe for the ''sin'' of Zimbabwe insisting that her land belongs to the people and not to a a tiny group of white settlers from Europe!

How do you think that is possible?

It is because African states are fragmented. Not unified. Lacking a central authority, it is very easy for foreign powers to play us off against one another. And isolate individual segments of the continent from international commerce. It's really that simple.

ROSSIKE:
This is why the mantra AFRICA UNITE, is not just an empty chant worthy of derision, but an ABSOLUTELY ESSENTIAL COUNTERMAND to the vast, ancient, international CONSPIRACY to divide and plunder the continent.
I have told you to stop listening to Obama. He is an imperialist front-man with not the slightest interest in African development.
What Obama did not tell you about South Korea is that unlike Kenya, South Korea, from the 1950s, received billions of dollars in annual western industrial investment (remember the Vietnam/Botswana example), and virtually unrestricted access to western markets for her finished goods, of the type Kenya can only dream of.

Babarossi:

bgees:
Chelsea took their chances, and I think they were the better side.

but we also improved from our previous games. the defence was clearly better .

No offense to Lucas ,he has really improved but he needs to be more creative, he needs to create more assists. he needs to play more like Alonso.

Kobojunkie:
roflmao!!!! This whole thread seems to support that assertion from post one!! Roflmao!!!

illusion2:
sad,sad. . . . we needed this game like air. . . .but we'll definitely recover. . . . .
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YOU'LL NEVER WALK ALONE [/center]

mukina2:
sadly you always walk alone where it matters

Babarossi:
illusion2 said:
This is the sort of dismissive NAIVETY I keep talking about - an inability to see the filial linkage between social/economic collapse on the home front and the alignment of our ''pro-western'' ruling classes to an international system geared to rendering Africa a permanent source of raw materials as opposed to a competitive industrial force. You cannot treat this situation in any other way but holistically. The very same ruling class forces who submitted to the Washington Consensus (the philosophy which holds inter alia, that developing nations must cut public spending, cut import controls, privatize social services like education and health, ''liberalise'' their trade by opening their markets to western imports wholesale, devalue their currency, and ban subsidies for small farmers etc etc), are the SAME forces rendering the country unable to substantially increase her power generation ability to anything more than subsistence level.
Until you make these linkages, you will forever be in a spin as to ''why'' ''our leaders'' ''cannot'' increase power supply, or ''refuse'' to seriously invest in rail transport, ''refuse'' to seriously invest in public education, ''allow'' corruption to persist, ''neglect'' our major roads, and are ''unable'' to raise industrial productivity.
Until Nigerians begin to ask of intending national leaders this core question ie:
''Where do you stand with regard to the Washington Consensus?''

we, the majority will continue to run from pillar to post, clueless pawns in an international game whose rules, raison detre, and modus operandi, are utterly alien to us, with the likes of Abati and other pro western ''columnists'' tightening the blindfolds on our collective face.