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bhella10:
So we should encourage destruction of public properties eh!? Warped and lopsided like Buhari appointments

They are both wrong, actually jungle justice is worse than graffiti. Most people use graffiti, even government. It's a matter of decision, message and time. But jungle justice is a no no anyday, anywhere.

A public official supporting jungle justice because it is on his side. Will he still keep the support for citizen justice when politicians get beaten on the streets? They should employ sense oh. All these unserious student union people in power. Most of them were never serious and 3rd class or dropout from school days despite not being in Science or Engineering facilities. And they are the ones steering the country in conjunction with illiterates. It is well with my country oh.

LordReed:
This is hilarious. You will not answer my question but want me to answer yours? OK, keep waiting.

Your question was totally off tangent, off my suggestion and speaking of validating God. God does not need validation. My questions are directed to you and about you, and totally in line with the subject discussed. Apparently, you are yet to have answers to them. Since you talk so much and criticize so much on "perfection", you should be able to give us a standard or example that can be relatable or meets up to your definition/idea of perfection.

LordReed:
Yes, he wanted human sacrifice. This your powerful god that likes the smell of death.

Poor perspective. You missed the whole point. It's a substitution death.

kingxsamz:
If morality comes from the Christian god, then I guess we can say it's okay to murder people whose beliefs doesn't align with ours simply because the Christian god said it's okay.

Does He say so or you're the same ignorant Samuel.

Lol 2014. You went all the way to 2014 to look for me? i'm right here in 2021. Go and figure what i told you and stop roaming around.

Kobojunkie:
The good news is that you are not the decider on this since Jesus Christ is the author and finisher of my Faith(trust and obedience) in Him.

i don't have to decide the US presidency to know that you are not the president, do i? Go and figure.

1Sharon:
Ok

Cc: image123

It's a disservice to Christianity for you to refer to koboko as a Christian. There's nothing Christian about him. He's not born again neither does he believe the Bible. That being said, what i said is the Bible, and student of the Bible knows that. Have you found a born saint?

Nwanyiriagu:
CAN SOMEONE PLEASE SHOW ME WHERE IT IS WRITTEN IN THE BIBLE THAT POLYGAMY IS A SIN

From the beginning, it was not so.

Are you so blind as to not see that ALL have sinned? You found a born saint in your toilet right?

Romans 14:5 One man esteemeth one day above another: another esteemeth every day alike. Let every man be fully persuaded in his own mind.

Biodun556:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Ln-S7ZraUc

Lol, prof wey no see say Jesus na God right from Genesis, that one na prof? Maybe na profligate.

hahn:
The real problem is the fact that Christian's believe everything written in the bible is historical. They just cannot tell the difference between fact and myth

The actual problem is that you think you can tell the difference when you cannot.

kingxsamz:

But seriously bro, where you dey since?
Thought you were banned.

He may be in prison, who knows? Sinners' misbehavior can put them in trouble

andyblinks05:
Please as the topic stated what is the ruling?
if you are contributing make sure you have a reference to back you claim.

tag our pastors here

Righteousness87

The Word of God says so as it has already been shown you.

Logic007:
The question was already answered.

-persecution of scientists in the past
-anti scientific miracles in the bible

"Persecution" of scientists is not christian. Humans doing things does not make them christian if such things are not done in or commanded by the Bible.
There is nothing like anti scientific miracle. Miracles are supernatural, science is natural. They are two different planes, not anti.

Logic007:
Lol...Majority of scientists in America are atheists or agnostics

It would be the same for most European countries.in fact even in religious counties, scientists tend to be less religious than the population.

Would be, tend to are not facts but opinions. Is your boss religious or not?

LordReed:
Can you just answer the question?

The question has NOTHING to do with what i was saying, it is off tangent.

So in a perfect heaven someone can offer them something better? How does that compute? My child can be deceived because I am not perfect and neither are they. I keep bags of sweets around but I never give them every time they ask me. On such occasions when I refuse them, someone might successfully entice them. What condition in a perfect heaven can be comparable to this that doesn't open up the possibility of dissatisfaction?

Give two examples of something perfect. After that, i will answer this.

LordReed:
So basically anything he does is good and perfect. There is no appeal to his better nature since even while drowning babies and the unborn, he is perfect. Am I getting you right?

You are not getting me right. Basically, anything He does has to be examined in His standard and attributes of Omniscience, Omnipotence, Omnipresence, being Eternal, being Creator, being Judge. Give me an example or two of God for proper comparison.

Pecuman:
While it was long ago, I hear that only something like 1/7 top scientists today are Christians. Given the Bias of Top scientists coming from the just of recent very Christian West, it is alarming somewhat.

Not even talking about Christians or the West. Talking about the world generally and religion. He says intelligent and prosperous people and nations are not serious. He should count the number of doctors and professors in his school and tell me the number that are professing atheists. After that, he should go and count the number of house owners, car owners and business owners in his neighborhood and give me the justification for this spurious tales.

LordReed:
It depends on why they are divorcing.

Your answer is that you may see something wrong in divorce or you may see nothing wrong. What will you say if God was this unstable in making a decision? Divorce may be right or may be wrong.

You'll see why I have issues with the idea further below.



I think the concept of disowning children is an emotional appeal and an emotional blackmail done with intent to simultaneously express mental anguish, lash out at the receiver and attempt to get them to follow a particular direction. I think its a dumb way of reaching out to your child and actually doesn't do anything because your rejection doesn't change the fact the child is yours.

I can't see a god attempting to use this kind of strategy. You keep saying your god is not a man but you keep making him out to be some kind of pathetic wuss. In my opinion any parent that descends to using disowning failed himself and his child. How much more a god with powers that exceed anything a human is capable of? Why will such a god fail so miserably?



As I think about it, I am hard pressed to point out anyone I think of as an enemy much less that I hate. I don't see life in such black and white terms, there is too much nuance that I cannot simply regard people in such categories.

You forgot to answer the question on rights. Do people have rights to disown or divorce? You also did not state why an emotional appeal is not good. Is it wrong or weak to have emotions? Are humans to be stoic Hitlers so as not to have emotional appeals? Do you know that disowning a child or a parent does not really have to do with the biological fact that you gave birth to the child or that the parent gave birth to you? Do you know it has to do more with accepting the person? Do you know that you disown God as your Father?

Lol about your too much nuance. You display a very narrow perspective. In your opinion now, everyone is your friend. While you may think you have no enemy, there are people that have you as an enemy. The person that will hurt you, rob you of your wealth is your enemy. Sorry for being too forward or thinking for you. The person, God forbid, that will decide to ruin you and your certificates is your enemy. The person that will, God forbid, sleep with your wife and your child forcefully in your front is your enemy. These are people that exist, but you seem to be living in your heaven already and out of the realities of earth. From your post, you love all these people right, since you don't see black and white?

LordReed:
I didn't claim you said so, I am asking you if it is a validation.

Satan being able to deceive a third of the angels raises a lot of questions. One that is cogent to this discussion is, how were they responsive to his persuasions if they were not dissatisfied?

Why bring up the subject of validation? i reminded you about those who love God and stay with Him since you were attempting to make a point on numbers that don't love Him.

Deception is not necessarily connected to dissatisfaction. We don't pray so, but your child can be deceived by another person using bait like sweets or fun or some form of nonexistent El dorado freedom. It doesn't necessarily mean you are a bad parent or that the child was dissatisfied with you. He was only fooled to believe there's more out there.
People are deceived every day either to some nonexistent better offer and opportunity, or to a bogus good cause. They are not necessarily deceived because of dissatisfaction.

LordReed:
What is his standard?

You keep "forgetting" to answer my questions. Your answers will help you. Anyway, not to complicate things, lol. God's standard is Omniscience, Omnipotence, Omnipresence, being Eternal, being Creator, being Judge. Summarily, He's in another class. Perspective.

Logic007:
Explain why scientists today are atheists.

Back in the day, Christianity and the church were powerful.

Do you have a credible percentage or data for this? There are scientists, doctors, engineers, professionals, professors, astronauts, and other powerful and intelligent all over the world who are religious or you are not aware?

Logic007:

What part of the question is not clear?

LordReed:
That was not my argument. I didn;t say no one loves him, I said he has a terrible personality thats why a third of the angels left. Now can you answer how loving him is a validation of his character?

Okay in your estimation, when persons leave you, it has to be because you have a terrible personality? What do you think of the two third majority that stayed? i did not say loving God was a validation of His character, that was your claim of what i said. The angels left because they were deceived by the devil pretty much like you are deceived by the devil. Now they are awaiting judgement execution.

LordReed:
+So by what standard is he perfect?

You forgot to give your standard. God is perfect by His standard.

LordReed:
Tell me a few things that will make you disown your child. Is divorce one of them?

Nope, the hypocrisy is from the god who says love thine enemies but has designated eternal torment for his enemies.

Here is the point again. You saw nothing wrong with humans(husband and wife) divorcing or disagreeing with or disowning one another. Or do you? Can you answer this question for clarity.
Why do you see everything wrong with God divorcing or disagreeing with or disowning His creature?

As to your question, i hope it does not come to that, but i have seen parents disown their children on grounds of continued unacceptable behaviour on the part of the child. Do you feel that they have the rights to disown? This another question you should try to answer for clarity.

Again on your hypocrisy claim, God is not a man. You tell me what you feel, do you love your enemy or hate your enemy? Third question you should help answer for clarity.

LordReed:
So that excuses him from being moral? Despite claiming to be perfect? Perfect by what standard then because he is not perfect by his own standard.

No, it excuses Him from compulsorily having to follow rules He gave to MAN. This why i reminded you that He is not a man. A lecturer can give students rules in the class. A doctor can give patients rules. A father can give his children rules. You don't put them in the same category and standard as the student, patient or child. Or are they immoral from your perspective?

LordReed:
Innumerable people loved Hitler, was that a stamp of approval?

You seemed to say people don't love Him and that angels left Him. i said people love Him, then you are asking if it is approval?

Logic007:
I am.

Christianity held back science. Held back women. Held back gay rights.

Women and gays are human beings that still contribute to the economy.

Did Christianity not persecute scientists back in the early ages?

Interesting. Explain how christianity holds back science or women. Gays have nothing to do with pros[erity, poverty or world economies and development. Maintain focus.

letu:
What do you think it's there an element of truth here.

No element observed whatsoever. Next.