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LordReed:
You are most likely suffering from depression, this is evidenced by the suicidal thoughts and lack of drive. Even your over indulgence in masturbation is most likely symptomatic of depression, you have become too withdrawn and are substituting fantasy for real human relationship. This withdrawal is something depressed people do and manifests in various ways that signals retraction from human contact.

Seek consultation and treatment from a mental health professional.

You must have read the below quote, no?

As I seek the face of God I prayed I refuse to allow those evil thought cross my mind, and the moment I started to abstain from it things started changing.

I can testify today that masturbation left me and I discovered who I am.

LordReed:
Yahweh the godfather. Hmmm, I guess he is appropriately named. LMFAO!

No sense of objectivity, satan pikin.

MaxInDHouse:
Please what type of LOVE is it that can't be found anywhere else apart from among Jesus' followers?




Can you be a little bit more explicit about the kind of MANNER that could only be found among Christians that's not found anywhere else?

See delusions of grandeur. So other denominations no dey do evangelism. Village bigots usually think their father's farm is the biggest or only farm in the world. We know village bigots very well.

donnie:
Bill gates says the next Pandemic will be 10 times worse and that we should treat this like we're preparing for war.

Tell me, is this a warning or an announcement?

https://www.entrepreneur.com/article/364371

It says "could". Could is a warning. Be objective.

iyambz:
24 Verses on Eternal Security of the Believer

Not too sure i got your point on posting 24 verse. If i were to post 24 verses that do not support once saved, forever saved. What would be your reaction?

1. Eph 1:13 kjv - “In whom ye also trusted, after that ye heard the word of truth, the gospel of your salvation: in whom also after that ye believed, ye were sealed with that holy Spirit of promise,”

Don't see what this verse has to do with eternal security. Being sealed is a mark. God sealed His people in Goshen. They later disbelieved Him and perished in the wilderness. The majority never got to Canaan.

2. Eph 4:30 kjv - “And grieve not the holy Spirit of God, whereby ye are sealed unto the day of redemption.”

Same as 1. You are sealed UNTO not until that you may read. You are sealed UNTO or FOR. Man was made FOR or UNTO God's purpose, the majority of man is not fulfilling God's purpose.

3. John 5:39 kjv – “Search the scriptures; for in them ye think ye have eternal life: and they are they which testify of me.”

What does this have to do with eternal security? All christians believe in having eternal life, the bone of contention is IF eternal life can be lost or not.

4. John 5:24 kjv - “Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that heareth my word, and believeth on him that sent me, hath everlasting life, and shall not come into condemnation; but is passed from death unto life.”

The Scripture is true but does not say we are forever saved. It says we have everlasting life. Anyone that has eternal life will not come to condemnation. Anyone that loses eternal life loses the immunity.

5. John 6:68 kjv – “Then Simon Peter answered him, Lord, to whom shall we go? thou hast the words of eternal life.”

6. John 17:2 kjv “As thou hast given him power over all flesh, that he should give eternal life to as many as thou hast given him.”

7. Rom 5:21 kjv – “That as sin hath reigned unto death, even so might grace reign through righteousness unto eternal life by Jesus Christ our Lord.”

You seem to be mistaking eternal life for not losing it. Salvation is a gift, and like every other gift can be lost.

8. Rom 6:23 kjv “For the wages of sin is death; but the gift of God is eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord.”

Oh, just when i was talking about the gift. The wages of sin is death. If you sin, you die. Having eternal life does not stop you from commiting adultery or fornication. Your watchfulness does, otherwise no need to watch since you have eternal life any way. The wages of sin is death, not eternal life.

9. Eph 3:11 kjv “According to the eternal purpose which he purposed in Christ Jesus our Lord:”

It is an eternal purpose but man has to follow the purpose to the end. It is the one that endures to the end that will be saved. While God will never leave us, the fact is that we can leave Him. That is free will.

10. Titus 1:2 kjv – “In hope of eternal life, which God, that cannot lie, promised before the world began;”

11. Titus 3:7 kjv – “That being justified by his grace, we should be made heirs according to the hope of eternal life.”

12. 1 John 2:25 kjv – “And this is the promise that he hath promised us, even eternal life.”

13. 1 John 5:11 kjv – “And this is the record, that God hath given to us eternal life, and this life is in his Son.”

14. John 3:15-16 kjv – “That whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have eternal life. For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.”

Most of the confusion seems to be coming from the word "eternal life". Eternal life is God's gift, God's life which He gives us when we receive and believe Him. We have that life as long as we ABIDE in Him. He does not cage us like evil spirits usually do. If you have had experience of dealing with possessed people, you will clearly see this. Man has his own free will. Once you are set/ready to leave, there is nothing much any spirit can do about it. You have your own free will.

15. John 3:36 kjv – “He that believeth on the Son hath everlasting life: and he that believeth not the Son shall not see life; but the wrath of God abideth on him.”

You must have seen a backslider before, right? There are people who stopped believing God and even become complete agnostics and atheists. They do not have eternal life. They are like Judas.

16. John 4:14 kjv – “But whosoever drinketh of the water that I shall give him shall never thirst; but the water that I shall give him shall be in him a well of water springing up into everlasting life.”

17. John 6:40 kjv – “nd this is the will of him that sent me, that every one which seeth the Son, and believeth on him, may have everlasting life: and I will raise him up at the last day.”

18. John 6:47 kjv – “Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that believeth on me hath everlasting life.”

19. 1 Tim 1:16 kjv – “Howbeit for this cause I obtained mercy, that in me first Jesus Christ might shew forth all longsuffering, for a pattern to them which should hereafter believe on him to life everlasting.”

Most of what you have quoted have to do with eternal life. Every normal christian believe in having eternal life so nothing much to say against that. Like i said, the issue is whether that eternal life gift can be lost or not.

20. 2 Tim 2:10-13 kjv – “Therefore I endure all things for the elect's sakes, that they may also obtain the salvation which is in Christ Jesus with eternal glory. It is a faithful saying: For if we be dead with him, we shall also live with him: If we suffer, we shall also reign with him: if we deny him, he also will deny us: If we believe not, yet he abideth faithful: he cannot deny himself.”

Very clear. IF we deny Him, He will also deny us. You cannot deny Him and think otherwise.

21. Jude 24 kjv – “Now unto him that is able to keep you from falling, and to present you faultless before the presence of his glory with exceeding joy,”

Like it has been explained, i will reiterate. He will only keep you as long as you keep yourself. If he that standeth does not take heed, he will fall. It is the same Bible that reveals that. But as long as we keep trusting in Him and never give up, He will keep us till the end.

22. Rom 8:38-39 kjv – “For I am persuaded, that neither death, nor life, nor angels, nor principalities, nor powers, nor things present, nor things to come, Nor height, nor depth, nor any other creature, shall be able to separate us from the love of God, which is in Christ Jesus our Lord.”

This is a persuasion we all share. No event can shake us or separate us from God. We are the ones who can separate ourselves. That is why the same events can happen to two christians and you will see one backslide while the other one remains steadfast. It shows that it was not really the event but the man. Two people got promoted, one became serious with God, the other became unserious. Two people had a miscarriage, one drew closer to God, the other one's faith fell. Same event, different decisions.

23. 1 Thess 5:23-24 kjv – “And the very God of peace sanctify you wholly; and I pray God your whole spirit and soul and body be preserved blameless unto the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ. Faithful is he that calleth you, who also will do it.

We all pray so. Demas was probably among those in Thessalonica. He loved the present world and became an enemy of God.

24. Phil 1:21,23 kjv – “For to me to live is Christ, and to die is gain. 23 For I am in a strait betwixt two, having a desire to depart, and to be with Christ; which is far better:”

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Salvation is a free gift, not by works (Eph 2:8-9 kjv). Your works of righteousness will never take you to Heaven. Paul was telling the Jews the same thing in (Rom 10:1-2 kjv) "Brethren, my heart's desire and prayer to God for Israel is, that they might be saved. For I bear them record that they have a zeal of God, but not according to knowledge."

You can't lose your salvation. Once Saved Always Saved. Let no man deceive you.

Rev 22:12  And, behold, I come quickly; and my reward is with me, to give every man according as his work shall be. 
Your work does not save you but it matters in the afterlife.

Rev 22:19  And if any man shall take away from the words of the book of this prophecy, God shall take away his part out of the book of life, and out of the holy city, and from the things which are written in this book. 

God is not a respecter of persons, neither does He lie. God takes away some people's part OUT OF the book of life. He clearly did it for Judas, and says He will do it again in this verse. God bless you and keep us ready for His coming.

Thazard:
I and my friend are having an argument ,


It's a simple question.


Was Jesus Christ rich on earth?

Do you want to be poor, or what is your point?

MaxInDHouse:
The group name "Christians" was borrowed from the mouth of observers in Antioch {Act 11:26} what quantifies a person to be a Christian is the ability to humble oneself and be prepared to forgo whatever it may cost to become one of those practicing pure worship!

Where most people got it wrong is thinking a Christian must have the characters of Jesus, but that's a misconception a Christian only humbles himself for knowledge and his transformation is a gradual process, contrary to a none Christian who feels he's ok as long as he is better in behaviour than others around him.

A Christian may have dubious characters but one thing makes the difference he acknowledges that God wants him to improve and he's interested in the one and only form of teaching that can help in transforming him into whatever God approves! Luke 19:2-10

Dubious characters like yours cannot be called true Christian but hypocrite. Don't get banned again.

The two. Just like your parents and loved ones, you should be afraid to hurt them or their feelings. You don't want them to hear or feel anything bad. The two work together seamlessly.

He's not aware. (Adamu is serving at the glory of the president. ~Garuba Shehu).

Nobody is safe abi you are not safe? Even the people giving you the vaccine said it doesn't guarantee against infection.

Image123:
The answer is in the question i asked. To reduce argument, we need to know your level of knowledge na. If i spoonfeed you, you will likely vomit, so think for yourself. Did satan sin before Adam and Eve ate the fruit?

This.

Can i remove my face mask in the area to address area faithfuls?

Simple reason, they don't take heed. Take heed daily till you die.

kingxsamz:
Cry some more.

Self deception is not healthy.

kingxsamz:
Find another person's mention to cry on abeg.
You're always in my mentions crying. When I ask you small question now, you'll begin to talk about layers of onions. Abeg rest.

But you refuse to ask the question, don't you remember? Oh, you don't read any verse according to your confession.

DappaD:
C’mon don’t tell me you didn’t see in the verse 3 and 4 that these set of people were bought/redeemed from the earth/out of mankind? There is a liaison between Revelation 14:1-5 and Hebrews 12:22 because the latter mentions a Mount Zion[heavenly Jerusalem].

Ohh, for Christ's sake. Where else would they be redeemed from, from Saturn or from Heaven? It doesn't say that they are in Heaven or went to Heaven. In that case all believers are delivered from the world or mankind or earth. It doesn't say ONLY, does it?

Galatians 1:4 Who gave himself for our sins, that he might deliver us from this present evil world, according to the will of God and our Father:

kingxsamz:
Or perhaps you're too slow. Try some other time. Thanks.

How the word "slow" is coming from the mouth of mr. sudden is hilarious. Common Bible truth is too sudden for you, you're shouting sudden, sudden like rapture has happened. Lol. Run along like your father the devil to come back another time.

kingxsamz:
Answer the damn question. Your explanation is irrelevant. You're just pouring water into a basket. Answer the question. Stop crying with your explanations.

What's the question? You seem to be loosing your cool this Monday morning. What happened last night?

kingxsamz:
I'm arguing the contradictory content of your bible, not the existence of your god.
If I ask for proof of your god, you'll start crying with your usual sermons, because you can't provide proof of its existence.

What's the contradiction you argue?

kingxsamz:
Of course, everyone knows onions have layers. What's funny is how you decided to come up with that as an excuse to why Satan committed sin. We were talking about Heaven as a whole, and all of a sudden, you're talking about realms and layers... abeg rest.

Just answer the simple question and stop bleating.

What fruit did Satan eat for it to be able to commit sin in a place where you said there is no sin? Answer. Stop bleating.

It is not an excuse but a written fact. The Bible teaches expressly about heavenS. It therefore means you should be cognizant about which heaven when you make ridiculous assertions. It is sudden to you because you have never heard it and you made your conclusions. i have heard it all my life so the joke is on your ignorance. i don't think i said sin has to do with fruit, i wonder your continued obsession about them.

Mikecold:
Even an average person without religious prejudice would read that detailed breakdown and be clarified.

Go back and read them, if your intention was to genuinely get answers they were answered, you only kept on repeating your already concluded bias because the moment you let go of it shatters to the ground

His exact fears. He doesn't want to be wrong, it's suicidal to his belief.

kingxsamz:
Heaven like Onions ko.
Funny guy.
Which fruit did Satan eat that made it commit sin in a place where there is no sin?
That one no dey your bible na, na why you dey come up with your own theory. Abeg rest.

BTW, i mentioned onions because everyone knows onions. It's in layers. Peeling one layer is still an onion. It's a simple analogy. Tomato does not have layers, be literate.

When you are ready to read and open the Bible, you will see that it is clearly written there. It mentions heavenS because it has plural. But what do you know about singular and plural, you aren't that educated i guess.

Ephesians 4:10 He that descended is the same also that ascended up far above all heavens, that he might fill all things.)
Hebrews 7:26 For such an high priest became us, who is holy, harmless, undefiled, separate from sinners, and made higher than the heavens;

kingxsamz:
Abeg rest.
Small question wey I ask you, you don dey give excuse say Heaven get layers and realms, say e be like onions. No be only onions. Na tomato.
I didn't read any verse, I asked you a simple logical question based on what you've been saying. Now, all of a sudden Heaven has layers.
If you say No sin in heaven, and the tree of life is man's source of sin, what's the source of Satan's, and how come Satan was able to commit sin, even though you already said no sin in Heaven?
Dont give me that "Heaven is like Onions" bullcrap.
Rest!

So i should throw away the Bible and listen to your opinions? i never said that the tree of life is man's source of sin. You fail to read, how can you know? Because you don't want to know. An unserious element playing the ostrich, don't show me Bible, I will tell you what I want Bible to say. Folly reloaded.
BTW, i mentioned onions because everyone knows onions. It's in layers. Peeling one layer is still an onion. It's a simple analogy. Tomato does not have layers, be literate.

What should it profit a man if his soul is lifted but he doesn't repent?

kingxsamz:
Lol, okay source of man's sin is Adam. After eating the fruit. The fruit is the main source then.
So. If Satan is the first of its kind, what's the source of Satan's sin? when you're ready to answer that, let me know.

And stop disguising. Are you saying Angels aren't capable of committing sin in heaven or not? Answer and stop dodging.

You should be grateful that i have helped you keep it simple thus far. You should be reminded by now that you are the one who dodges and literally dreads me, not the other way around.

Romans 5:12 Wherefore, as by one man sin entered into the world, and death by sin; and so death passed upon all men, for that all have sinned:

i guess this is the verse/passage you are bringing "source" from, correct me if it is wrong. As you can see, the word "source" is not there, so be wary of the way you use it. Make e no cut you for hand. Sin started in the human race with/through Adam. Sin started in satan with/through satan.
Let me now take you further down the syllabus since we're clear on the explanation for man not committing sin in Heaven. There's no sin in Heaven. When the Bible mentions Heaven, you should observe that there are different Heavens. It's like layers or realms like onions, lol.

2 Corinthians 12:2 I knew a man in Christ above fourteen years ago, (whether in the body, I cannot tell; or whether out of the body, I cannot tell: God knoweth such an one caught up to the third heaven.

The atmosphere you see is called heaven or heavens. There's where satan and his cohorts operate also in the heaven. There's God's dwelling place, Heaven. Anywhere outside earth is simply and basically called "heaven" in the Bible for simplicity sake and probably lack of another lexicon at the time of writing. Do i expect you to understand this jargon, not really. But i tried to break it down as simply as possible at the moment.

DappaD:
Revelation 14:1-5 shows a fixed number of anointed and sealed Christians standing on a heavenly Mount Zion. Compare Hebrews 12:22

Revelation 14:1 And I looked, and, lo, a Lamb stood on the mount Sion, and with him an hundred forty and four thousand, having his Father's name written in their foreheads. 14:2 And I heard a voice from heaven, as the voice of many waters, and as the voice of a great thunder: and I heard the voice of harpers harping with their harps: 14:3 And they sung as it were a new song before the throne, and before the four beasts, and the elders: and no man could learn that song but the hundred and forty and four thousand, which were redeemed from the earth. 14:4 These are they which were not defiled with women; for they are virgins. These are they which follow the Lamb whithersoever he goeth. These were redeemed from among men, being the firstfruits unto God and to the Lamb. 14:5 And in their mouth was found no guile: for they are without fault before the throne of God.

Can you explain where in this passage said they are/were in Heaven? On the contrary, verse 2 mentioned a voice from Heaven. Why and how did you connect it with Hebrews to suit your denomination teaching. i can very well link it to other scriptures too for my convenience(compare 2Samuel 5:7 you know?), knowing tens of other earth Zion verses. Why did you leave the context?

Farki:
You aren't even making sense, if you are too dumb to grasp how something as simple as footprints work then just end it here.

I don't blame you though, Nigerian education put more emphasis on stories of how water turns into wine instead of teaching geography.

This would be the good place to start


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bRuSmxJo_iA

Yeah, don't kill me sir, you know i don't have data to watch and my Nigerian education can't cope with oyinbo grammar. Foolishness is to disbelieve a story and to believe another one just like it. Your video proved nothing, the woman simply talked and you believed. She mentioned footprints, not footprint and you believed. Take your belief and let others take theirs. i don't see the superiority in your belief sir. Your source is not sure but approximates it might be a footprint of an unknown dinosaur that ate insects. We can go further with the approximation that it's likely the poo-poo of an angry bird 350million years ago that made the mark on the rock. Nobody has a monopoly of approximation and degrees. Stop worshipping white people and grasping their beliefs.
Hear your gods again "
It is impossible to tell which dinosaur made the print, but as it is 10cm long it is believed to be from a type that stood 75cm tall and 2.5m long."

DappaD:
It’s the same way this present “world” of humans will pass away. 1John 2:17
This earth isn’t going anywhere. Psalm 104:5, Ecclesiastes 1:4

i promised to be nice. Show me where 144,000 people are in Heaven?

chatinent:
Bro, don't be misled.

Yes, there are those who will go to heaven.


But the majority will inhabit the earth...not this kind of suffer earth, a suffer-free earth without death. That's what Rev 21:1-4 is promising us.


Earth will become a paradise again. The same paradise God originally proposed.


God bless you.

Misled by the Bible? Nahhhh, not going to happen to me. God bless you too in Jesus name. Now it's probably time for me to be nice to your friend.

kingxsamz:
Nice.. Very nice.
So you've made it known that the sin of man has its source. So what is the source of Satan's sin?
Also, you've made it known that Only Humans cannot sin in Heaven, meaning that, Angels can commit sin if they want, whenever they like. OK cool.

You are catching up fast today, did you change diet? This is so good.
The "source"(whatever that means) of man's sin is the first man. In your language, the source of the first man's sin is the first man. The "source of satan's sin is satan. Now read what i said again. "Heaven is a place where man will not be capable of sin". This is quite different from "Heaven is a place where ONLY man will not be capable of sin". Dunno why you brought that up, do you still drink and type? Don't forget that i said it that way to keep things simple and one-by-one. i did not say it to get you back to the bottle.

Farki:
No because we don't have any evidence, just like we don't have evidence.

We do however have evidence of many deceased humans and animals leaving prints on the earth.

Are you done erecting your strawman?

Wonderful, very good. So you are saying that we do not have evidence for simple rock formation processes. Wow, this must be an eureka moment really. There is no evidence for rock formation processes. But you somehow have evidence that this mark is a footprint of a dinosaur that ate insects. How do you know that it is not it's poo-poo? We can approximate that it was its poo-poo or bite-mark when it was about dying, no?

Farki:
And I am asking you, if this is a rock formation and not caused by an animal as you said do you have a name and reference to back this up? Because you are the one saying it is a rock formation yet have shown nothing to back it up.

You seem incapable of reading me in this excitement. Calm down, take some water and read again. Can we approximately say that the print may not be that of a dinosaur but simple rock formation process?