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LordReed:
Can the dog give consent? How are you equating non-consensual sex with when 2 human agree to have sex? What is against nature? Homosexuality is found even in animals so this your against nature narrative is false.

HellVictorinho:
I only asked a rhetorical question.
But you think you have made sense by calling me a beggar.
Are you richer than Elon Musk or someone that knows better??

HellVictorinho:
Nobody is an island.
Even Elon Musk has been helped before.
So, according to your reasoning, Elon Musk is a beggar.
Furthermore, I never stated that being godly has anything to do with money.

HellVictorinho:
What's the essence of being religious in the presence of prolonged wretchedness/suffering?

HellVictorinho:
This is one of the reasons why I say life is an absurdity.
The fear of hell keeps him alive_like seriously

HellVictorinho:
Good afternoon.
I just want to know if you have sent the money.
The account number I gave you belongs to my sister.

HellVictorinho:
Honestly, I don't think you will overcome this.

HellVictorinho:
Didn't I say you can only quote the Bible?

HellVictorinho:
You have only experienced religion.
You never really experienced any God.
That's why you can only quote the Bible when you are asked thought-provoking questions.
You will rather say you just believe in the Bible towards believing in God.
You think you have chosen to believe.
But your beliefs only happen by chance.

HellVictorinho:
The faith ,along with the so-called reasons you have for its existence, fly into your head by chance.
Therefore,it can only leave your head by chance.
It's a matter of probability.
If the faith leaves your head, the so-called reasons for it will disappear,too.
As for me or/and my brain cells,God(s) can't exist.
There can't be living things that are smarter than humans.

TimeIllusion:
Have faith in the Goddess, She loves you. She would cure your psychosis in a jiffy.

TimeIllusion:
C’mon child, I have faith in you.

TimeIllusion:
Take a guess, sweetheart.

TimeIllusion:
It’s not what it is because y’all can’t agree on what it is. Watching the meaninglessness is amusing. Now, where are Max and Image123 to tell you that you don’t know what it is.
You have a lot of “shit to figure out” because according to Tocheagle, a Christian of the highest order, it is sad to see that you’re a Pharisee.

Luzebox:
Ok ... firstly...if i point a gun on your head and tell you to slap your mom ...and you slap her ...did you do it out of freewill?...now if i promise to burn you forever unless you worship me...and you worship me...is that freewill?

Secondly... belief is not a choice..u make sound like it's a choice.... No Matter how hard i try to believe cows can spit fire...i just can't... nobody can actually believes by choice

TimeIllusion:
People raised in the Christian tradition or environment would criticize God based on the god they are familiar with just like people raised in the Islamic tradition would criticize God based on the god they are familiar with.
I consider your god to be on the same footing as all other patron or creator gods, so I’m not criticizing “God” when we talk about Yahweh, because Yahweh is just like the others.

The Bible is not the historical account of God’s dealings with man. The Old Testament is a collection of Jewish myth and legends, while the New Testament is a collection Graeco-Roman fables with ample Egyptian influence. Its accounts are not proof of anything “supernatural”.

It’s not my Avesta/Bundahishn, it’s one of a collection of religious texts similar to your bible and is one of the sacred texts of Zoroastrianism. Ahura Mazda is said to be “God” according to their cosmogony and their account of creation.

So, we can say that Bundahishn gives an account of how Ahura Mazda created the world and his dealings with man, or we can say the Bible gives an account of how Yahweh created the world and his dealings with man. But neither the Bundahishn or the Bible is evidence for “God”.

This doesn’t make any sense. What are you trying to say? Be rational, not emotional please. Regardless, I’m not in danger so I don’t need to saved.

Yes, Zeus is the equivalent of Yahweh unless you have any rational reason for regarding Jewish mythology as fact while doing the opposite regarding Greek mythology.

Zeus made merry on Mt. Olympus while Yahweh dictated commandments on Mt. Sinai.
Same coin, different sides.

Yes, and anyone can learn about it if they please. You don’t need knowledge of the physical processes in the brain we call love to feel it, so you have no point really. What does love have to do with this anyway? You probably brought it up because you didn’t expect me to have an answer, then you could have used it as some evidence for “God”.

You made another asinine analogy comparing the possible consequences of having sex to your religion’s doctrine of hell. I didn’t move the goal posts, I just showed how ridiculous your analogy was.

I brought up the concept of hell as prime example of your “worship me or else” concept of god when you said belief in your god is not by force.

Yahweh owns heaven, earth, and hell. There’s nothing special about that.
According to Martian, TUTUkan owns Utopiea, Mars, and Frozolakh. If you don’t like Their terms go and create your own planet and life.

Stop with the silly analogies and respond to the military regime analogy. If I point out why this one is another poor analogy, you’ll respond with “shifting the goal post”.

If I were alive during the time when the believers of your god were murdering people, I would have resisted their force and ended up dead. Those periods are examples of your religion/god being spread by explicit force, and there is the implicit force inherent in your doctrine of hell.

You brought up the different versions of Christianity when you said not every Christian believes in hell. Don't be a dotard.

You showed it’s not necessarily so by bringing up versions of Christianity that don’t believe in hell. That doesn’t mean your doctrine does not include force or that your religion wasn’t spread by violence. How am I showboating??!!

Jesus must have been some type of psychopath to teach something as depraved as hell. Yes, people worshipped Yahweh before the Jesus character without belief in hell. But that doesn’t detract from the fact that the Christian conception of Yahweh includes hell for rejection. It’s a feature of Christianity.


Take your own advice. I always learn humbly.
e.g. I heard you are an expert on women’s sartorial choices and Yahweh’s rules concerning such matters.
So I ask humbly, are women allowed to wear pants/trousers?

Projection.

TimeIllusion:
Biblical accounts cannot serve as evidence or example of "God". Stories about Yahweh are are valid as Stories about Zeus when it comes to God. Saying Yahweh manifested in the Bible is like saying Ahura Mazda manifested in the Avesta. I'm sure you wouldn't accept the use of the Avesta so you shouldn't present your bible as evidence.

If recordings are not enough, I'm sure it can do other things to prove itself.
COVID-19 remains a poor example because it can be proven even if people refuse to accept it without personal experience. And some refuse to accept it as they are dying from it. Nevertheless, its existence does not depend on faith.
Another thing, the reasons for believing in COVID-19 are not sensible and mostly based on faith, similar to the reasons for believing in Yahweh.

Zeus is the equivalent of Yahweh while satan is one Yahweh's underlings in jewish mythology.

Mapping can reveal the activation in the reward and motivation systems of the brain, which means certain chemical/neurological reaction to stimuli is what's called "love". A dead brain can't express love. No?

STD and unwanted pregnancy are possible consequences of having sex. You can have sex without contracting an STD or unwanted pregnancy and they are not equivalent to long-term torture (hell).
According to Christianity, hell is the certain consequence of rejecting your doctrine and mythology. For people prone to having faith, hell is an implicit threat.

I repeat, does a military regime have to harm you to force you to comply? All they have to do is tell you the "consequences".

No, I would have been dead.

Of course there are many versions of Christianity, but we are talking about the versions that want to cast everyone to hell. Even your Jesus allegedly talked about hell, so maybe Christians who don't believe in hell are not "true Christians". It's not by force to believe in God, but according to your faith, it's believe or else a.k.a by force

So many who claim to be Christian can even agree about the nature of the diety you call God (or hell), but you're so sure it exists. Where is Maxindahouse, I need him to tell you you're wrong?

MaxInDHouse:
Why can't you present your own God without having to attach yourself to others?

Well you're just a pagan with no specific FAITH, since the OP has refused to ask questions it's evident that he's not interested in the TRUTH he has already made up his mind. So i'll leave you guys to continue spewing your gibberish!

LordReed:
Why? Do skyscrapers get built by only 1 person?

TimeIllusion:
You think a little. Can Yahweh be proven in a lab like COVID-19? People who think there is no COVID-19 have faith it doesn't exist just like they have faith that Yahweh exists. Oyedepo has faith in your God just as he has faith that "COVID is a lie from Hell"

One mythological character at a time. Keep satan away from here for now.

All gods do the same things regardless of adherents. Absolutely nothing. That's reality, not faith. The number of adherents of your god is due to violence, conquest, subjugation, proselytizing, theft, and consolidation of political power by people.
Tell me what your god did that can't be attributed to Zeus? You make a claim about your god without evidence and somebody else can claim Marduk did it without evidence.

The consequences for reckless driving, unprotected sex, or illiteracy are not equivalent to stated consequences of rejecting your God. Apart from faith in your God being historically spread at the point of a sword, the threat of hell is the equivalent of force.

If I tell you that 10 years from today I will Water Board you everyday for the rest of your life if you don't agree with me about Pixies and their eternal love, it would be force. Granted it is not explicit, but if you know I was capable of it then it would be force. For people who think there is a God, it is force by threat. Pascal's Wager is based on this threat.
Does a military regime have to force you to do things at the point of a gun? No, they'll just tell you the "consequences".

MaxInDHouse:
I am Maximus one of JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES, if you're truthfully searching for God i can help you but if you've made up your mind then your heart will only be inclined towards one side "God does not exist" by then nobody can help you again.
First of all i want you to know that God exists and there is just one single group of people worshiping him today Jehovah's Witnesses so if you want to discuss with me you have to concentrate on you and i alone, let others flow in with their contribution but you don't need to ask me questions pertaining to the information someone else gives you about God.
My own God is unique, he has almost 9,000,000 worshipers globally, we are all like one family even though we don't know ourselves face to face the SPIRIT unite us as one throughout the earth. So whatever you hear from any other source about God doesn't have anything to do with our own God because nobody outside our Organization know our own God and he is the one and only true God.

So if you're ready to chat about him feel free to ask me any question and i'll give you answers from the Bible.

May you have PEACE!

TimeIllusion:
Such a poor analogy. The venn diagram of people who don't accept the the existence of COVID and those who believe in the same god as you is a perfect circle. Examples abound on this site.



The patron diety of Israel that you call God has done as much as Zeus.



It's not by force? That's rich coming from an adherent of a religion that includes "hell" in it's doctrine and mythology.

TimeIllusion:
Can he He appear to the whole world at the same time?
The OP said he can come "down"? A good manifestation would be him "coming down" simultaneously in Sydney, Lagos, Rome, Dharka, Dakar, Tokyo etc. With the ubiquitous camera phone, his His existence would no longer be in doubt. Is that foolish?

hopefulLandlord:
Good question. If God exists and he/she/it (for the purpose of this discussion I'd use "He" from now on) wants me to know him then he KNOWS what he would do to convince me. he created me from scratch, knows all my strengths and weaknesses, knows me more than I even know myself so only he knows what would convince me of his existence

LordReed:
Depends on the god. For gods like the Christian god that can take bodily shape and do things that defy the laws of the universe, they may have to come in visible form and perform feats that defy the laws of the universe as we know them. That will at least convince me that the claims of Christianity have merit.