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That Reno is a mockery line must have touched some nerves like a strung guitar.

hahn:
God is not the same yesterday, today and tomorrow then. Since it changes it's mind

I dig

God or Jesus being the same yesterday, today and forever according to Hebrews 13v8 is NOT the same thing as God changing His mind. The Bible no where interprets or alludes such. God is the same forever in the sense and context of being Holy, righteous, eternal, all powerful etc. This is different from God making decisions on man. If a man is a sinner today, God is angry with him. If the man repents tomorrow, God changes His mind. You draw near to God and God will draw near to you. God can choose a Saul today, and tomorrow choose a David. God can bless a Levi today and if his children misbehave tomorrow, He can cut off such blessing. In that sense, God changes His mind. This takes nothing away from His righteousness, His eternal Godhead and government. And like i said, He doesn't change His mind every 5 days like TB implied in his statement, God is not fickle.

Oh, and thanks for the insults. Jesus will be proud

Two things. One, i did not insult you but sorry if you felt insulted. You were indeed deliberately drooling in foolery to twist my words and insist that i said what i never said. You were only being mischievous despite your age.
Two, it is either Jesus doesn't exist or He does. Does He? What makes you think He would be proud, does He exist? Why care so much on the emotions of a person you claim to either not exist or to be dead? Are you afraid what He thinks of you?

Topgainer:
Forgerrit, you guys can't kill Donald Trump. But how will killing him make the Woman President?
If it were that easy association of Wizards and Witches would have killed Buhari to make their predictions of GEJ winning come true.

Don't mind that fellow, the man was talking about elections keenly contested. He went further to envisage storm and boat like that is not the norm. Trump also will not have a smooth ride, you don't need God or prophets to say or know that.

TB no dey ever see things like rapture, or where boko haram dey, or chibok girls, or when Nigeria go better, or who dey spoil naija, or how him church no go collapse, or something really serious from God. Na Wetin supersports and BBC don analyse Na him e go see. i see a team that has green winning at Uyo. It will be a tough contest but they will smile. What kind of rubbish is that? Is that one signs and wonders? Test the spirit, anyway na viewers full the place not believers.

hahn:
Why you dey lie like this? The below is what?



Lying for Jesus and himself as usual.

Of course I change my mind. That is human!

And why are you comparing me with your god? Do you want to start worshiping me too? I can assure you that paying offering to me will be the best thing you have ever done because I will be honest to let you know that I just bought a new suit with your money.

And there will be no issue of any middle man

i said that "God doesn't change his mind every five days sir." You're older than this sort of mischief, and being an atheist doesn't mean you should drool in foolery. i asked if you change your mind because i thought you had a problem with a change of mind. Apparently you don't, so there's no problem if God changes His mind, or do you just pull baseless laws out of thin air for God? My statement and context about TB's fickle statement is clear enough, but you seem to want to play, should we really play?

hahn:
Actually god changes it's mind. That is why there is an old and new testament

i didn't say God doesn't change His mind, can't you read? There's no virtue in rigidity, is there? Do you change your mind?

Oga Reno, it's either you bought or you didn't buy weapons. How do you manage to hold the two positions at once. Yesterday, it is the weapons you bought that army is using, today Hilary stopped you from buying weapons. While I'm not having any preferences in candidate, it is good to inform you that Trump is NOT the saviour too.

Actually, the matured Christian and prophet would not dabble into guesswork like TB does. If God sent him, he wouldn't be so fickle. God doesn't change his mind every five days sir.

frubben:
Oyedepo - I will open the gate of hell to does who will nt vote for Goodluck (nigga lost)
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Yet to see where Oyedepo said that, only heard many people who heard such rumours.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KR8r-Q_a3Mw&list=PLRshycKqvvxbUxXlrK5ulT0PCUyGb95no&index=9&app=desktop

TB the manipulator, narrow win, rocking the boat. He was designing how Clinton will start seeking his face in case she wins and faces opposition.

Correct prediction of election results don't validate or make anyone a man of God. Most of these gamblers were not sent by God.

Poor TB. Lemme help him. D Trump is a woman, he talks too much. Though TB needs no help, the gullible will still do the needful. Mr i can foresees.

Make i come back,
@lennycool
There's nothing much to this. It simply proves the point that we(humans) are naturally wired to worship. We were created that way, we find ultimate fulfillment in worship. It's like a fish to swimming or to water. There's that drive, that thirst for God or some form of god(from wood to iron to money to self to attainment or accomplishment to nature). We all have some god, though you should know only God truly and fully satisfies. Something Jesus said about never thirst again.

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See this ones that cannot keep their fellow atheist friend's simple laws. Little wonder, they do not want God to exist.

So the tablets to be used are not ready even though we knew since last year that they would use this equipment? All the money budgeted for paying this people this year that has already been approved, they should calculate it well in the next budget oh.

FlirtyKaren:
Now ask yourselves, what is the gain of those average and poor people who have contributed and are still contributing to the progress of this university? Oh, their gain must be in Heaven, huh?

http://www.lailasblog.com/2016/11/see-covenant-universitys-school-fees.html

Who are the poor people who contributed and are still contributing to the progress of the university? Why did they and how did they? What were they told or what was the agreement?

HardMirror:
Nice thread.
If the bible is true then why are there compelling evidences supporting reincarnations?
Who shld we take serious?
Those who say after death - judgment or those who say we keep reincarnation. And they come forward with stunning evidence?

Seun, lalasticlala

Let's talk about reincarnation.

Lol, ain't it funny that you are just anything but God? The struggle is real for you folks. You take these as serious and COMPELLING. If those same fellows say they went to heaven or saw Micheal Jackson in hell, would you take them seriously? Hypocr.

Deicide:
You see why i called you Childish Can you please point out the Rant for me?

It's an hypothetical question, duh.

Deicide:
Please get out from this thread if you have noting reasonable to say this thread is for matured mind and not for kids

Hehehehe, matured minds on the verge of suicide. What would be defined as reasonable, the futile rant that there's no God?

Well said @shadeyinka. More grace.

Lennycool1:
Pictures of starving children in the Biafra war was said to be what made Steve Jobs(cofounder of apple) turn to an atheistic religion. He couldn't understand why any God with a drop of human sympathy would let people suffer like this.
All those seriously sick and starving people, people with real problems that he could have helped. He left all of them to help you pass an exam, marry, get a job, get more money, have a car e.t.c
If your situation isn't immediately life threatening and you said God answered your prayer, then God is a misanthropic being.
Some people will claim that these people were not children of God, or that is the work of the devil, or that this earth does not matter.

I'll ask all those people to think about what they are saying
These children live in the poorest of poor countries, they have no education, no food, no clean water and for some no parents, the missionaries don't even want to go to these war ravaged places and when they do they only cover a small territory, so most of these people have never even heard of Jesus or even Yahweh. They never had a chance to hear God's word.
They're too busy trying to survive with nothing. But they are still children of God right? So why would he let them suffer more than any human ever should, I'm sure some of them wished they were never born into this life, but they were

And you say God got you a job, a car, a house, admission, more money. Do you now understand while its stupid to say God answered your prayer? That he left all these suffering people and wasted his power on you and your irrelevant need..
In a world with God and pastors with jets this should not exist.


God either does not exist or he is Malevolent

Okay, so the complaint now is that God answers prayers but the ones answered are not relevant enough for you. smh
Again, the atheist have defined God and God does not fit their fancy definition, therefore God does not exist. It is as foolish as me saying NL ought to pay me money per post and in dollars. NL does not exist as they do not fit my idea of what NL should be. That is the summary of the average atheist thinking.

Lennycool1:
Pictures of starving children in the Biafra war was said to be what made Steve Jobs(cofounder of apple) turn to an atheistic religion. He couldn't understand why any God with a drop of human sympathy would let people suffer like this.
All those seriously sick and starving people, people with real problems that he could have helped. He left all of them to help you pass an exam, marry, get a job, get more money, have a car e.t.c
If your situation isn't immediately life threatening and you said God answered your prayer, then God is a misanthropic being.
Some people will claim that these people were not children of God, or that is the work of the devil, or that this earth does not matter.

I'll ask all those people to think about what they are saying
These children live in the poorest of poor countries, they have no education, no food, no clean water and for some no parents, the missionaries don't even want to go to these war ravaged places and when they do they only cover a small territory, so most of these people have never even heard of Jesus or even Yahweh. They never had a chance to hear God's word.
They're too busy trying to survive with nothing. But they are still children of God right? So why would he let them suffer more than any human ever should, I'm sure some of them wished they were never born into this life, but they were

And you say God got you a job, a car, a house, admission, more money. Do you now understand while its stupid to say God answered your prayer? That he left all these suffering people and wasted his power on you and your irrelevant need..
In a world with God and pastors with jets this should not exist.


God either does not exist or he is Malevolent


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Again, the atheist have defined God and God does not fit their fancy definition, therefore God does not exist. It is as foolish as me saying NL ought to pay me money per post and in dollars. NL does not exist as they do not fit my idea of what NL should be. That is the summary of the average atheist thinking.

TomHagen:
Chai. Why do you want to kee that boy?

Ranchhoddas my friend. No, i will not murder oh. i was just playing.

Lennycool:
And the proof of evolution is you

Lol, how can one person be proof of evolution? Haba, evolution theory is in itself a long and slow process of development. You need stuff like teeth found in caves or shit stored in ice in the Artic since a billion years ago to talk about your kind of evolution. When we talk of something evolving or changing, that's different and everyone knows that. Even growth is some form of evolution in this sense. But in the sense that you refer which i know, the sense of coming from monkeys over some million years, that is highest form of crap ever imagined by contemporary man. It remains an unprovable THEORY about the differences in plants and animals. You need artists and people high on weed to reconstruct all the rubbish about finding a teeth in the jungle and telling us the name is homo blablanonsense and that it is your father. That takes a lot of faith, i'm okay with my faith as small as mustard seed.
When i say you are a proof of God's existence, i do not say it to mock you or irk you. i say it with sense and purpose. You are a human being too complex to have being a product of chance, soup and blasts. i say it because you fit in perfectly to your description and behaviour as stated by "God". Like for instance, some people do not believe in HYIPs and MLMs but there are folks who believe in it, usually because they have gotten what was promised them, as it were. No amount of warning deconvinces them. In a similar way, i see you tally very well with God's Word concerning you, so i am sensing that He's got real points, i believe Him. You are proving what He said, you are a proof of Him. Hope that is not too complex for you. i try to break it down and make it as crude as possible so you can get it.

Lennycool:
The dictionary defines intelligence as
Capacity of mind, especially to understand principles, truths, facts or meanings, acquire knowledge, and apply it to practice; the ability to learn and comprehend.

Do snowflakes have the ability to learn and comprehend?

You are filled with a lot of crap fallacies and diversions. Nobody said snowflakes have the ability to learn and comprehend, i simply asked for your definition of intelligence to be sure of your perspective. You said that there is no intelligence behind snowflakes, and that they are Beautiful without intelligence. That could mean two things, one and mainly that there is no intelligent designER behind it. Two, that it does not in itself HAVE intelligence. Of course, it does not have intelligence, nonetheless, it is made and produced by an Intelligent Designer. That it is able to even repeat its process from the laws of nature is good proof that it was intelligently made.

Lennycool:
https://www.bostonglobe.com/opinion/2016/04/15/the-decline-war-and-violence/lxhtEplvppt0Bz9kPphzkL/story.html?_e_pi_=7%2CPAGE_ID10%2C6834096493

http://www.npr.org/2011/12/07/143285836/war-and-violence-on-the-decline-in-modern-times

Try again

This is very ridiculous and the case of the ostrich hiding its head in the sand. You talk of a prophecy over 2000years old, and you misuse a quarter(3months) of 2016(a year) to judge, common. Stop giving me radio programmes and opinions, present quality data and trends. Deaths due to wars and unrest have been on the increase globally over the last 2000years, fact.

It was easy to make such a prophesy as the new testament was written fifty years after Jesus died, enough time to add it in, as Christianity gained traction.

You say ADD like in the sense that they cheated or were lying. False prophets are on the increase till tomorrow, it is the same you that will wear another coat to complain about the hundreds of denominations in christianity. Why do we not have that for other religions including atheism? Are they losing traction?

Ahh hopes of the deluded. Let me get links

http://www.worldhunger.org/2015-world-hunger-and-poverty-facts-and-statistics/

http://www.un.org/apps/news/story.asp?NewsID=48726#.WBM8k12t-o8

Yet another poor trend. Hunger is increasing in the land, you don't even need stats to see that. What planet are you living on? Until Jesus comes, there will be massive famine, fact.

Even you have to admit this was weak

It's not weak, just that your ignorance is so glaring it will take time and effort to educate you on persecution and its impact.

I said most diseases have always been there but they are only now being discovered as we progress scientifically. Don't be foolish on purpose.

Here is what you said in green, i know you are a sinner but that does not mean you must lie or twist or be dishonest. "I'm sure with all the diseases being identified today most people will think these diseases are new, but I assure you they are not, they have always existed but we just didn't know what caused them."

Another weak attempt.
Do you all see why religion can be very bad. This person wants us to suffer all these things just to prove a prophecy right I swear if he could start world hunger and war he would, so Jesus will be right.

There is nothing weak there, the prophecy was an increase in natural disasters. The prophecy is clearly fulfilled but you choose to tell us WHY. Nobody argued or discussed the WHY, bringing it up is a red herring fallacy. Nobody wants you to suffer, i never stated that or implied that. Are you also suffering from the atheist delusion or something?

Lennycool:
And what is the proof for this creator

You.

Lennycool:
You have come again with your badly put arguments, do you know that no two snowflakes are ever alike, the tiniest shift in win or temperature creates entirely new patterns. Snow flakes besides being so intricate are reproduced billions of times each year with no intelligence behind it. It forms and intricate hexagonal pattern and is packed with billions of water molecules. Beautiful without intelligence.

Define intelligence please.

Lennycool:
And saying an intelligent creator who led a bunch of desert tribe people to conquer other desert tribe people is the cause. Is cool?

You miss the point, it has nothing to do with deserts and cities, stop creating distractions. The intelligent Creator is the intelligent position to take.

felixomor1:
A snow flake is as good as a drop of water.

Comparing the complexity of DNA to the complexity of a snowflake is the highest form of intellectual dishonesty.

Why ?
very simple

A snowflake holds no information.
A snow flake does not communicate nor does it give any instruction nor comand
A snow flake is not a "code"
A snow flake requires no programmer

On the other hand,
DNA is a 3 billion character code
DNA gives command and gives instructions
DNA determines human, animal and even lower life form external and physiologic features

DNA is so complex that it is programmed or written by highly intelligent enzymes which in itself is regulated by DNA (Fear God!)


You may make a little sense by comparing DNA to giant codes like microsoft windows of Bill Gates or Facebook of zuckenberg and his friends.
Not comparing it with a frozen drop of water, kid.

So lets assume we never got to know of bill gates and co, somebody like you would create threads to actually argue that facebook and windows automatically evolved from biro and paper?

Shameful!

lol. lennycool just said that there's no answer. Not cool at all.

Lennycool:
Mmhmm are you serious?

More serious than your teacher.

It is sheer folly to state that snowflakes were made without any guiding hand. Jesus did duh. This is written FYI all over scriptures.