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Also muskeeto, you seem to be deliberately twisting my words or forcing other meanings to them. I don't recall saying stuff about my ultimate goal(s). Now you don't believe in the existence of witches? I should be gobsmacked, but then it makes some form of sense with your reasonings on this thread. Do you believe in the existence of witchcraft then, or sorcery or spirit possession? Anyways, there're not necessary to be believed but do let me know, thank you.

musKeeto:
Stop being silly.
Why would i advocate otherwise for the girl? If you labelled her a witch (which you did then modified your post), you wouldn't expect her to practice Christian principles. now, would you?
Silly trick question. Does a Christian encourage non-christians to live unchristian? Lmao. A Christian encourages Christians and non-Christians to live in a right manner. If you say the girl called herself a witch, why group her under non-christians?
Are all non-christians witches?
Lol, so your ultimate goal as a Christian is to make heaven? No wonder.
Why should I pray a witch doesn't show up at Oyedepo's service? You think I believe in witches? Did Jesus ever mention witches? Was he even bothered by 'their works'?
You turn all logic on its head, because if a witch attends a church service, what exactly are they trying to achieve? I mean isn't the presence of the Lord assured if two or three are gathered?
I'm sure you know better. Just too scared to say so.

Muskeeto, i did not edit nor modify any of my posts, not on this thread. The girl said "i am a winch". I did not label her one. The girl's silent and content it seems, but it's the christains here screaming 'unacceptable', you have to fight back, sue him, bla bla. Telling her to do what you would not do. I dey come.

I think it supplied their NEEDS.

italo:
Don't get it twisted. Both verses are not the same event. Matthew's account was before he was crucified while John's was just before he died.

@image123, I am not trying to prove to you that Jesus refused an alcoholic drink in his lifetime on earth so there is no need to consider Matthew's account. What I am trying to prove is that Jesus drank alcohol, and John's account proves that. Or doesn't it?

Matthew clearly states that Jesus REFUSED an alcoholic drink, yes? So you should consider it in your opinion formations.

Good of you. But make sure you're also prepared. Marriage is not play, it takes preparation/readiness and maturity. You've got to be spiritually, emotionally, 'financially', academically, socially etc ready. You might be the one keeping the thing waiting, 'he' may be. But God help you sha. Don't give up, increase in the faith.

Toronto123:
@Image123 if you can read please read what our dear friend KA24DETT wrote. @Image123 you are the typical ignorant Nigerian pushing the country backwards, if you really have a BSC and MBA as you claim, i think its crucial that your university revoke your degrees cos you are a disgrace.

Reading brighter grammar would help you, lest you get slapped. Our friend has warned you.

Seems like divine provision for His upbringing?

What can i give Him,
Poor as i am?
If i were a shepherd,
I would bring a lamb;
If i were a wise man,
I would do my part;
Yet what i can i give Him,
Give my heart.
(Christina Rosetti).

musKeeto:
Now you're contradicting yourself. And if you're a Christian because of heaven, God help you.

You're the one contradicting Jesus here. Why are you a christian. i'm answering using basic sunday school, and you've missed it because of? too much tv talk. I dey go church. Be praying a winch doesn't show up at Oyedepo's service(s) this christmas morning.

Joagbaje wept profusely. How christly?
i'm off like the bird, i don like seeing old men fighting.

What you need is Jesus, not the meaning of words.
Lazy misguided youth, what is the meaning of 'foul'?

Loveaflame, you too much, chop knuckle, plus e-hug. The demons in many blinded their eyes to this.

Or if you doubt their existence do one of the following and your beliefs will change.
1. Sit down on a mortar as from 12-2 at night.
2. Put the mucus from the eyes of a dog and rub it on your own
3.Go to a grave yard by night with a live rooster in your hand by 1-3 at night and kill it putting the blood on one of the grave yards.
4.Go and secretly demolish the shrine of a god in a village setup.
5.Go to Esan land precisely Ugboha or Ubiaja and sit under an Iroko tree by 1-3 at night.
If anyone who denies their existence can do all these things let him come back to nairaland and testify

1, 2, 3, 4, 5. They wan die? They won't touch it with a kilometre pole, awon spoilt pikins to blow money parent ni school.
But come to think of it, as dem plenty reach, i do not find even one demon in all the kjv Bible, apparently they've been cast out?

^i have this habit of ignoring meaningless discuss.

^
See who's pretending like Matthew's not scripture. Stare no further, it's you italo.

Sagamite:
You are a cretin!

Fcking illiterate.

Maybe you are possessed by a mooron spirit.

Me, I am a babalawo for Jesus.

Meaningless, or at best comedy. Watch your bp, even possessed people get sick o. Go to your god Oyedepo and tell him you're a babalawo for Jesus, abi you're afraid of what your parents would do when he slaps in your tongue?

musKeeto:
What did Jesus say to do if anyone slaps you? - Turn the other cheek,
I answered yours. Now answer mine

Thanks a lot. So if you would turn the other cheek if slapped by Oyedepo, why are you advocating otherwise for the girl. Does a christian encourage non-christians to live unchristian? I did not label the girl a witch. She acclaimed it herself. She said "I AM A WITCH FOR JESUS". Oyedepo had requested the witches to come out and she's among those who did. If there was no Heaven, i would probably not be a christian.

Image123:
Common, even Tell me, you want to be like Jesus. What did Jesus say to do if anyone slaps you? Call a spade a spade? Do answer please. I see more christains here who look more to be like 'freedom' fighters, not Jesus, definite not Jesus the Christ.

Do answer the questions please, musKeeto.

Impatient heart, wait till 'crossover' abi na 'watchnight'. Most of them 'prophecies' are usually declared then, just like the president's speech for January 1.

musKeeto:
Same thing you accuse me of is the same thing you're guilty of when you refer to Sag as possessed.
On Nairaland, it has become a custom to backup arguments with a few 'nice' words, a practice I'm not proud of. It's just something I've become accustomed to here.

Regarding your questions about slapping and adultery, I firy believe all actions wi be judged by motive. People say Michael Jackson will be in hell because of his love for young boys. I refuse to believe he'll end up in the same place as dictators murderers. So what's my point?

Im at the point in my life where if calling a spade a spade will send me to hell, then God help me, Im willing to go there. I refuse to see things that are wrong and keep quiet of fear and threats. If Jesus had done that i the presence of the Pharisees and Saduccees, there'd be no cross,
«to be continued, my battery's about to run out »

Common, even Sagamite knows that he is possessed, i'm not cursing him. It's obvious he's lost control of himself. An angry spirit is tormenting him. So you're prepared to go to hell for calling a spade a spade? You don't have an idea what you say. Tell me, you want to be like Jesus. What did Jesus say to do if anyone slaps you? Call a spade a spade? Do answer please. I see more christains here who look more to be like 'freedom' fighters, not Jesus, definite not Jesus the Christ.

Okay, page 27. Time up adults, i've got to go. More pressing issues would be addressed, you may still hear from me on the other thread though, till closing time for that one.

musKeeto:
Idiotas spewing curses. That's how I challenged stagger to curse me and he ran off probably in search of a gullible ignoramus.

The God you claim to serve is a God of Truth. Stop raining curses on his behalf. What the 'God of man' did was wrong, simple and short. Don't come on this forum with foolish threats and all. They won't harm anyone her, I can challenge you on that. Foolish prayer warriors that keep locking their people in captivity. Only the children of the pokr are witches, cos they're defenseless. MORUNS,

You're a christian unlike that possessed Sagamite. I want to ask, are you not cursing when you call people idiota, morun, ignoramus, foolish prayer and co? What's the difference between you and the guy threatening fire and brimestone? I mean, if Oyedepo called anyone these things, would you judge him? It is with the measure that you judge that you'd be judged, no? If Oyedepo's wrong, do two wrongs make a right?
Tell me, one, as a christian, if i commit adultery today and died today, do i go to hell or Heaven? Two, if i slapped seven people today, and died today, do i go to hell or Heaven? Where do your priorities lie?

davidylan:
I am genuinely puzzled. Is this man a "god"? Why would my parents come before him begging to be slapped?

It also puzzles me david. I'm simply stating what the man would do and the result going by antecedents. It's not okay for people to sit by their laptops and get ulcers over another person's ache. They should not just sit down here calling others moruns, idiotas, zombies, and saying let him try it here and there to B and C. Those are lazy armchair beerparlor arguements. You who is rich and powerful, go and try what the 'poor innocent saint' tried. He will slap you, and nothing will happen. Instead, your relatives will come beg to be slapped too. 'you' here not particularly davidylan but anyone who wants to wear the winch's shoes.

taigee:
I never allow a challenge on my GOD to go on answered. You curse me in the name of your gods, i curse u back in the name of my God; Jehovah, the Lord of Host, the man of War. You shall be taught a bitter lesson in a few days
This is not just mere words it has become a battle of GODS. You are another foolish Goliath about to loose his head. (1 Sam 17:42-46)
What do u know about spiritual warfare? Better repent or you shall end like Herod. (Acts 12:21-23)As for u when did debates become forums where you pour out abuses and curses on your opponents. Is it the invocation of invective on your opponent that makes your argument superior or your points?
Be careful on this forum, you will bring judgement on yourself with your utterances.
I am not threatening Bomb blasts I am talking about the wrath of the Almighty that will transcend your generations unborn.
LEAVE OYEDEPO, ADEBOYE, OYAKHILOME, TB JOSHUA etc alone!
Don't go near their churches if you don't believe in them. Leave God to judge them.
You are playing with fire!
People have been burnt before, don't become a cheap victim.
GO AND ASK Korah, Nathan & Abiram (Num 16:1-33) I Know u may not read it but pls read it.
BE WARNED

Now, this one is wrong, and if Oyedepo did/does this, i'll criticize. But to set the house on fire because of a rat? No, that's berserk and uncalled for. I ask again, what really's all the noise about?

Zikkyy:
@Image123, if a referee in a football match decides to start hacking down players on the pitch, even take a spot kick (and score goals) on behalf of one of the team, there is nothing wrong because that's what footballers do abi? Also consider a situation where you have the sheep on the field raiding other peoples farm and destroying their crops and at the same time the shepherd is also attacking other people farm land doing his damage, there is nothing wrong in the actions of the shepherd abi? cos that's what sheep do; destroy other people farms.

No, not me. You are the one that believes he does not deserve a special treatment. You are the one comparing him to touts, criminals, child abusers e.t.c (afterall touts slap people at the bus-stop on  daily basis) I am giving him the MOG treatment If i have to make any comparison, it will with Adeboye, oyakhilome, e.t.c (edit: serious comparison will be using the apostles to benchmark, and oyedepo will disappoint) We have 26 pages of post because the shepherd is displaying characters/traits normally observed in a sheep. Maybe it's because he has been hanging out with the sheep for way too long and failed to realise he's gradually turning into a sheep

Mr Image have you ever seen a winch showing power in public? The is probably the result of watching plenty American winch movies. LOL you are truly a clown. Maybe you should be spending more time in the entertainment section, discussing the lastest winch movies

Yep, let's hope oyedepo repents and apologize.

Zikkyy, i don't like all these improper analogies and you know it. Which one is the issue of footballers now. Slapping is not just an issue of criminals, touts and childabusers, no , not in nigeria. In nigeria, any group of person slaps. Parents, teachers, friends, siblings, rich and poor. Everybody slaps, you no dey watch naija films ni?
When mog 'worshippers' start now, it's you and co that will say everybody is mog, we're all anointed. But now, you want to nail him, he's suddenly Shepherd and in the ranks of the apostles. Double standards, man.
Whether in private or in public, this self acclaimed winch has shown no power whatsoever. All she's receiving is pity 'poor little innocent girl'. It's more than a year now for her to have displayed her private powers on Oyedepo since winches are shy in public like you implied.

Sagamite:
Try and think of the art of multi-tasking.

You are a fcking cretin!

So you admit your Man of Con is creating a cult of moronic Zombies?

Let Ole-depo come to London and come and slap and see whether he would leave with the same amount of blood in his body.

Cretin! He would think Ghaddafi was lucky.

Cretin? Try another word, that one's fast becoming synonymous with your name. Oyedepo doesn't need to go to London, he'll not be minding his business that way. You, come from London to canaanland and tell him you're a winch for Christ. He'll slap you, knock you and then curse you. Then your parents would come to beg him. You're a big coward, i expected you'd be at canaanland already, the way you're taking this slap personal. Frustrated nigerian crying more than the bereaved. Go and give your life to Jesus, you obviously do not know what value it's of.

dare2think:
Your silly attempts and futile efforts in trying to justify a wrong are becoming more evident for all to see. You are a disgrace to your Christian community and a man-worshipper. You are part of the reason atheists continue to have ammunitions against religion.

You are Pathetic!!!



‘Oyedepo was daring her’ ?? One of the most ignorant statement I have seen on NL and I have seen a lot.

Please try to read the nonsense you wrote above and see why that other fellow called you ignorant.



IF? Are you serious?? So you are not even [b]sure [/b]that she is a witch, yet you are justifying the actions of the bully.

You ought to be ashamed of yourself.

But you and Oyedepo have his mind??

You are a bloody Joke!!!!!!

dare2think:
The only thing worse than a [b]coward [/b]is another [b]coward [/b]that does not have the courage to stand up for what is right.

Oyedepo is a [b]Coward [/b]for assaulting a defenceless girl and you are a bigger [b]coward [/b]for trying to justify his behaviour.

I'd rather be a hopeless fellow than to be like you or Oyedepo that uses Religion as a tool for oppression .

One more thing, you are so [b]ignorant [/b]its unbelievable. God help you.

And who is the christian religious community? You and those faceless ones on the nl religious section? You're a disgrace to God. All that riles you is someone slapping another. And then you're insulting me, insulting the man, and uttering all manner of expletives, you and your team. Which is a sin, a slap or vile words? Do you even know? And i'm supposed to be the ignorant one. You have real challenges covered up by Oyedepo's slap, all of you. Do you have issues with worshipping any other God apart from Jehovah? i think not. Do you have issues with samesex marriage, bestiality, pornogra.phy? i bet not. What you've got issues with is Oyedepo's slap, that's the criteria most important to you. You need an anchor, fast.

So this is where they're at? See convulsions, see abuses in the name of Christ and godlessness. See insults and bile, and see grammars. Talk is cheap, go to canaanland if you get mind. Go there, mr and mrs Rich, and tell Oyedepo you're winch for Jesus. He'll slap in your ears and you'll do zilch. Your parents and relatives will still come and ask/beg for their own slap. Frustrated nigerians.

Zikkyy:
If it was oyedepo switching off the'light' people will go beserk; if it was oyedepo doing the killing people will go beserk; if he was involved in child sex, armed robbery or kidnapping, similar response. Do you know why? it's because it's oyedepo, but because you worship pastors there's no way you'll understand

dare2think:
Isn't that the whole point?

"What is the meaning"

Why was she not given the opportunity to explain?

My friend, You are beyond funny and I expect you to get my point as the adult that you claim to be!!!

Oh so zikkyy, when it's time for you to judge, Oyedepo's no a different pedestal and people should go berserk on him, but at your convenience, he's just a man like every other and deserves no anointed or mog status. You're truly drunk.
And dare, when i say 'what is the meaning of', it's rhetorical. Every literate knows the meaning of 'i am a winch FOR Christ'. That's a self declaration. From what i saw, Oyedepo was only daring her. He's provoking her to show her powers. But the result was powerless power. The lesson to the applauding audience is don't fear witches and wizards. Africans fear them, thought you knew that. You're both preaching the same thing in different tunes. You say, don't fear witch as they don't exist. Oyedepo says, don't fear witches, i don't, follow me. He demonstrates his message to the congregation, of course with the backdrop that serving God should remove fear of witches as they can't harm you. 'The bereaved' would not do anything against Oyedepo, not on her life if she's a witch as she claimed. Stop weeping like an hopeless fellow.
And to those christains crying blood here, they have not the mind of Christ. Take for instance, if they were the ones slapped, what are they expected to do according to their Bible? Is that what they're clamoring for the self acclaimed winch? Are they asking her to turn the other cheek, or aren't they saying the exact opposite must happen? Spur of the moment, worldly views from supposed Bible believers? I rest my case on this page by His grace.

dare2think:
Atleast Mr Image, Quote her correctly.

She said, 'I am not a winch, I am a winch for Christ'

Yes, I am being sentimental. Check out the meaning of bullying and see where it fits. Oyedepo is a bully.

'Such a person cannot receive forgiveness/deliverance yet'

who are you to determine that? who is Oyedepo to determine that?

Are you sinless?

Please refrain from calling people hypocrites.

You're funny. What's the meaning of 'i am not a winch, I AM A WINCH FOR CHRIST'. Seriously, you're being unserious.
I'm not determining anything, neither is Oyedepo. It's simple Bible truth. He that covers his sin will not prosper. He that confesses and forsakes will have mercy.Proverbs 28.13 i think and so on.
By now i expect you all get my point as adults that you claim to be. Someone feels like slapping me many times, and feels justified to do so, but one slap from Oyedepo is an heresy, and a sign of the endtime. I'd be back, later.

tavon:
So following this same analogy it is alright for a muslim to bomb a bus full of unbellievers because they refuse to accept Allah as their savior. From her own perspective she is innocent and all others are sinners

Im fighting really hard not to insult you but are you sure you have your brain screwed on to your head?

Now you're FIGHTING, someone only slapped not fought and you want to commit suicide. Has it actually occurred to you that the girl came, not the other way round. How do you compare this to going out to bomb people. What exactly is happening on this thread?

Enigma:
@image123

lol

I just knew you would come back with that 'did/do you live in Naija' line!

Do you think I will write Nigerian languages as well as I do if I do not know Naija well or have lived (and still live, actually) a considerable amount of time there?

Anyway to the point: you do not get the point at all!!!!

Slapping is common in Naija ---- does not make it acceptable in Naija. That is what you are missing.

Let me digress: soooo power failure, bad roads, armed robbery, kidnapping, and dead bodies on the street are acceptable in Nigeria because they are commonplace?

Sooooo what about my other examples from earlier post --- child s.ex abuse, political/societal corruption etc? All acceptable because they are commonplace?

Oh no,the point again is not that slapping is acceptable or unacceptable. The point is that it's common place, THEREFORE, what exactly is the noise about. I mean, people are going berserk here. People don't go berserk during power outages. How you compare a slap to killing, childsex, corruption, armed robbery and kidnapping is ridiculous. Ask any one day old christian, do you go to hell for armed robbery, kidnapping, stealing and co, the answer is obvious, a YES. Do you go to hell for slapping? The answer may not be so obvious. Context, my brother, context. What's all the noise about?

dare2think:
No he should have burnt her alive, after all that's what would have been done in the 1600s.

Why did he not let her finish her statement, watch the video again. She was in the process of explaining herself before she got 'cut' down again.

'you are free to go to hell'
' you are not fit for deliverance'
' you are a foul devil'

Such lovely words of encouragement.

Aaargh, stop being sentimental. So now, it's the bullying of an innocent girl. She wanted to explain herself, how that she was a winch for Jesus? What was she doing in his church and hiding? Did she come out voluntarily to be delivered, or ran out during countdown? Who forced her? Who said i'm a winch for Jesus? Who? Who's innocent? Doctrinally, you receive forgiveness from God when you ACCEPT you've sinned, and then BELIEVE in Jesus the Saviour. She was defending/trying to defend her 'sin'. She came out to say she's winch and was defending it. Such a person cannot receive forgiveness/deliverance yet, sorry truth. Others would have received their 'deliverance'. There's no point wasting time on someone who's not ready to let go, when many are willing. Jesus came to call sinners, not righteous winches. Do you even understand doctrine to start with?