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haaryobhami:
typical aboki,so even if na true
89cows = 89 human life.
no wonder they north is cursed nd would remain cursed.
backward people

See big hypocrisy; when you ppl are roasting your blodas alive everyday for as little as stealing a necklace of phone set; so are your human lives also = phone sets, necklace, motorcycles etc?

Why are Ebonyi and Cross River ppl killing themselves right now; accordingly they are valuing human life = land.

VULCAN:
From your bedroom, you know who stole the cows. Wizard!

Intellectual laziness is obviously not allowing you use your brain.

Llizyy:
Truth be told, it takes great skill to rustle cows, the Fulani's are the ones rustling these cows, and then come out to wail that their cows are missing so as to attack communities, my take is that people living around that area should be ready to defend themselves cos they are about to strike again.

The Fulani have bush craft and can therefore track down the rustlers with the cattle as they have already done according to this article.
I accept that there are rustlers in every tribe - the Fulani inclusive.

paramakina202:
So the native Hausas their Fulani masters are slaughering like goats in Zamfara state means nothing to you?
What a pathetic submissive sl.aves.

How does that relate to the topic here?
Abeg argue with sense, if youn have any.

PrecisionFx:
86 human vows are dead, That's a retaliation.

How many are currently being killed between Ebonyi and Cross River ppl because of land; how many do you ppl also roast alive daily for stealing as little as a necklace or phone set?
Abeg just pack your hypocrisy for one side e done do.

They will start what they can't finish and yet cry like Fayose when reprisals are taken against them; while the biased media would lend their voices to some ppl shedding crocodile tears more than the bereaved.

Seems like the SA have no tolerance for a particular set of Nigerians - especially the criminal and disrespectful ones.

gidgiddy:
You are truly funny. First you start by what Kanu said. Kanu said this, Kanu said that. Why are you so bothered about what comes out of Kanu's mouth? So your entire head ache is what Kanu said or didn't say while you are in a country where others such as Herdsmen, Boko Haram and Niger Delta militants are slaughtering people on a daily basis. But your main headache is what Kanu said or didn't say? Because Kanu is the only person God created with a mouth? Don't you see how stupid that makes you look?

Then lets look at your video. Kanu in America soliciting arms? Since when has soliciting arms becomes illegal? The fire arms act of Nigeria allows any Nigerian adult to apply to own and hold certain type of guns. Soliciting guns is not illegal, what is illegal is holding arms without permission or using it to commit crime. Nowhere in that video did Kanu say he needs arms to fight Nigeria.

The rest of your videos were the fall out from operation Python dance. So IPOB suddenly became violent during operation Python dance? What about before then? IPOB has been agitating since 2015 when Nnamdi Kanu was arrested, nobody heard anything about them being violent, armed or killed anyone. But it took your government bringing the python dance to the peaceful South East where no armed group existed to cause trouble? An intelligent person would ask themselves what the python went to do in a peaceful place such as the SE, when they were needed in violent places such as the NE,SS and middle belt? Your Government brought trouble where there was none in other to claim that IPOB is a violent organisation

Even today, nobody has shown that IPOB are armed nor killed anyone. Showing pictures of people throwing stones and sticks, this is the so called terrorism? Showing video of what is clearly an abandoned building with rubbish everywhere and claiming IPOB destroyed it. Look at the pictures below of real terrorism by your Herdsmen and get sense

You are either intellectually lazy or you must take us as very very stupid; if Kanu was not soliciting for arms in the 1st video @ 0.27 min (on wards) in his opening remarks; then can you pls tell us what you think he needed guns and bullets for (there were even sub-titles in the video giving emphasis to this point, so it is not possible to miss it).

It is a pity that you still cannot understand the concept and distinction between what constitutes a terrorist group and the threat it poses to a nation or state, compared against the simple membership of a tribe/profession and why such groups cannot be legitimately proscribed simply because of some criminal elements within them who may be acting against some selected communities or individuals - no matter how violent.

Yes, deny as much as you like; however, IPOB are not innocent victims without blood on their hands because the police had investigated and found them culpable of killing and burying over 30 Hausa/Fulani in shallow graves in the forest (listen carefully to police report in 4th video, culled from Channels TV).
Furthermore, the viral video of IPOB youths fishing for Hausa passengers to kill on the the highway had already spoken for itself.

If you think sticks, stones and cutlasses are not weapons then there must be something seriously wrong with you - perhaps you didn't notice how effectively such items can be deployed, as recently put to use by the Shiites to kill a police officer during a similar demonstration in Kaduna.

As for your objection to (my) quoting of Kanu along with your other frivolous arguments; well all I have to say is that I refuse to censor myself in order to satisfy your ignorance.

gidgiddy:
The topic here is the terrorist tag. If you hold a knife and threaten a police officer in America, will you be tagged a terrorist? Of course not, you will get charged attempted murder or whatever that falls under.

Pre-emptive strike is only used when there is credible information that someone or a group are about to unleash violence.

Has anyone or the authorities come out to say that they were trying to preamp anything with IPOB? Has anyone come out to say that IPOB was planning anything?

Yes, I know it would still be difficult for you to understand; however, I will try again to make it simpler for you.

Your Dilector Kanu was a terrorist: he threatened the Nigerian State (along with some individuals and groups) both verbally and in action; while some of his members were beginning to carry out his script.

Some of his verbal threats:

"Buhari is a Terrorist he should be killed."

"Nigeria is a zoo and everybody living in that Godforsaken zoo deserves to die."

"Kumuyi should be stoned and dealt with thoroughly if he comes to Aba for his planned crusade."

"The imbecilic Goodluck Jonathan is a disgrace to humanity and deserves to be skinned alive for handing over to an Hausa goat."

"By the time we finish dealing with the animals in the zoo, there'll be none left to tell the story."

"We are assembling weapons and we need some more money to thoroughly equip our military to enable us unleash mayhem on Nigeria."

"Niger Deltans are cowards; we know what to do to them. Akwa Ibom, Bayelsa, Delta, Rivers, Edo and Cross Rivers State are our territory and anybody who tries to oppose us will be crushed."

"Buhari married his wife after raping her several times, the records are there."

"No Ibo man should attend any Church where the pastor is a Yoruba man, they are criminals and fools."

"Nigeria should prepare for war, we are coming to annihilate you, my secret service are already studying the zoo and strategising."
https://www.nairaland.com/4053688/quotes-hate-speeches-ipob-leader

Your Dilector was physically also seen on Youtube in Amelika soliciting for money to buy arms to wage war against Nigeria as he earlier threatened.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1XU2JtlUF6M


IPOB members took arms (stones, sticks & cutlasses) and attacked law enforcement agents before and during the operation python dance.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dszz5hZLvEo

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1tXhZ8qixcY

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bFkKxS1rZBI

There were video evidence of suspected IPOB attack on mosques; rioting and blocking highways especially to fish out innocent Hausa Fulani Muslims travellers to kill or torture.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gvqYTaTFo8k

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R4HZskAMnx8

gidgiddy:
What an incredible logic! So those who make threats are terrorists while those who are armed, killing people on a daily basis, sacking communities, destroying farmlands are criminals?

Really? So if I threaten to use violence, I am a terrorist. But the person who has moed beyond threats and is using violence to destroy lives and property is just a criminal?

Nigeria we hail thee!

I don't expect ppl like you to understand such logic.

However, let me make it a bit simpler for you; hold a knife and threaten to stab a police officer in the USA and tell me what he is likely to do to you.

You could also try Google and look up the concept of preemptive strike as a part of self defence then come back and talk to me.

HITTED:
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Absolute hogwash from a hate-filled, kunu-sipping aboki.

Besides the uniform, what's the difference between Foooolani herdsmen and the Nigerian military under presidiot Boooohari? They both kill innocent people and sweep them under the carpet. The Shiites and Benue massacres still come to mind.

It would appear that someone is manipulating his akpu filled brain to claim monopoly on stupidity; if not, then how could anyone claim that; a multi ethnic, multi-religious organisation, compelled by law to maintain a national character composition; such as the Nigerian Army could in anyway be complicit in the alleged ethnic and religious cleansing i.e. aiding and abetting Fulani herdsmen in the killings of local indigenous populations.

How is this ridiculous feat possible when there is so far not even an iota of concrete evidence to support such claim - except for similar such cretinous theories and innuendos being circulated and shared among a growing gullible lot.

Are the army commanders and foot soldiers all Muslims and Fulanis? - what nonsense!

Aboki99:
Before any ignoramuses insult Islam, let them look these Biblical verses up: Genesis 24:65 and 1 Corriantians 11:6. This is so that they may know Hijab is also Biblical but most xtians lady decide to wilfully violate the Bible's injunction!

Yes, indeed.

I fail to see how ppl claiming superior education and intelligence would continue repeating such embarrassing stupidity as the call for declaration of Fulani herdsmen as terrorists, while making direct comparison between them against the proscribed IPOB terrorist group - when there is clearly no such comparison.

To criminalise them as terrorists would tantamount to the criminalisation of belonging to a particular ethnic group (e.g. Fulani tribe or any other) or a profession (e.g. cattle rearing/herding etc).

If that should hold true then we could equally criminalise the Igbos for being Igbos since 100% of IPOB are Igbos; the same also goes for spare parts trading since majority of fake spare parts dealers are Igbos and so on.

Besides, the herdsmen unlike terrorists groups such as Boko Haram and IPOB, are not threatening the Nigerian State by demanding for independence and a part of Nigerian territory for themselves; but merely operating as cheap criminals/bandits against local communities and individuals within the state - there is therefore a big between threatening a state and threatening some communities/individuals within the state.

blackboy:
Are you for real? must everything be about GEJ, APC and PDP? It is well.

Find a similar example under the president administration and post if you like as well - and no, it is not about GEJ or any party; but about a sad example of deliberate bad governance that had blighted so many lives.

Lest we forget the GEJ administration that diverted Billions meant to fight Boko Haram to individual pockets and towards a failed re-election bid; while thousands were left exposed and unprotected to be killed and maimed like chickens.

Lest we forget the administration that initially refused to rescue the Chibok girls because it believe it was a propaganda against the government - until it was too late.

Lest we forget the government that irresponsibly exposed its own soldiers and left them to be picked off as sitting ducks to the insurgents, where military posts were regularly sacked at will, disarmed and heavy weapons such as tanks easily confiscated, resulting in mutiny and desertion in the Army due to poor morale.

We will not forget nor forgive the needless loss of innocent lives, property and displacement of many families in refugee camps till date; as well as the callous and heartless excuse we got from the CIC and then president for being soft on the insurgents.

Yes. we will not forget the internationally confirmed human rights abuses under GEJ's watch that led to the refusal of US, UK & EU from selling much needed arms to this country towards our fight against terrorism that resulted in loss of several LGA to same (for the 1st time in our history).

@ OP: This is a typical example of intellectual laziness.
Why would you use such a misleading headline; when in fact OBJ did sit with them (including El-Rufai) as he was clearly pictured in you post - unless of you didn't even bother to read the content.

sonsomegrigbo:
My brother stop being tribalistic...

It's not good for our growing democracy

Did I mention any tribe?
Besides, those who started the tribal bashing know themselves - they will continue to reap what they sowed.

Johnnyessence:
in this video, nothing like they are from pdp, pdp wasn't mentioned from the video. so find another lies and propanganda here.

Go to the video @ 0.48 min, then listen to the location where the money is being distributed then come and tell us whether the Old Governors Office is under the control of APC or PDP.

Na so so dem go dey rape pikin for their side yet dem go turn around and call us paedophiles.

Nothing new, Nigerian soldiers did even far worse under GEJ; there are videos of our soldiers slaughtering suspects like rams.
The Cameroonians were even more merciful because they blindfolded their victims and death was quicker; since they used guns instead of the slow process of slitting their throats like how our soldiers did.

http://www.theparadigmng.com/2014/05/30/bizzare-video-nigerian-soldiers-caught-tape-slaughtering-boko-haram-members/

freshvine:
Ibos pratice patrimony. first son takes over head of family upon the death of a father.

an igbo man can birth 15 daughters just to have a son.

So does that mean he is permitted to disrespect physically molest his own mother?

freshvine:
Dont Pray To Be In A Confrontational Circumstance With Your Mother And She's A Drama Queen Couple With The Fact That Her Other Children Can Stand Up To You.

In the core north, where I come from, our culture and religion, puts a mother squarely ahead of anyone (even your father); you must therefore respect and never disobey her except; if she should demand you go against the religion(Islam) - it is therefore quite shocking and disgusting to us to hear such stories of sons/daughters talking back let alone physically fighting and stripping such a highly regarded person as your own mother - drama queen or not.

Imagine beating and stripping naked your own mother - some ppl just have no respect.

Why are only one particular set of ppl attracting the assassin's bullet; seems like a case of marginalisation SA version.

Why are we yet to see the actual video clip of the teargassing incident - despite the hundreds with phones in the crowd?

I am not surprised that many from the hateful and insolent brigade could not recognise this sign of respect for an elder because they come from where a son could use a round kick to wake his father from his sleep - in short respect is alien to their culture.

A very good gesture; wish he would also be kind enough to do the same for the victims of Ebony vs Cross River communal clashes, where over 7000 were displaced and many more killed than Plateau; hope he would also get on the podium and this time criticise the killings of Christians by Christians where land is seemingly being valued more than life.

Perhaps CAN may also want to organise a demonstration against such killings which has been going on for over 20 years; while the mainstream may see cause to give the crisis as much publicity as it is giving to the herdsmen/farmer clashes in the north.

Wetin we no go expect from 99.9% Oloso ppl dem.

What would you expect from a group of selfish political prostitutes who put personal interest before any other consideration - the answer is disunity.

See them, Corruption apologists; they know very well that this order would further weaken the strength of looters from using their vast ill-gotten wealth to frustrate and resist their cases in court - who hasn't heard about how these ppl buy their freedom through bribing of judges, lawyers and EFCC staff.

LOL, TeleMundo and Nollywood have just move to Ado Ekiti starring Ayodele Fayose the cry baby governor, faking injury and tears to win sympathy votes for the state PDP.

Anyone with common sense would see through the unprofessional way he was fitted with a neck brace and arm slim while his free body movement belie a person with any injury.

LOL, cry baby governor.

Treating the thug like a thug.