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THE LATEST KADUNA CRISIS : THE KILLING OF CHIEF ADARA , A KIDNAP GONE WRONG NOT ETHNIC/RELIGIOUS KILLING
With lives and properties at stake , and based on credible information at my disposal I find it necessary to explain the immediate cause of the new wave of violence that engulfed Kaduna today. Being Kaduna state , already some narratives are reporting the killing of the Adara Chief as a religious/ethnic conflict. It is not. The Chief died as a result of a kidnap (he was kidnapped along with 5 others) that went horribly wrong.
Without mentioning names, I had the unpleasant experience of being indirectly involved in the ransom negotiations for the release of the 2 of the kidnap victims (not on the side of the Chief) when a relative of some of the kidnap victims was contacted by the kidnappers and he in turn contacted me to compare notes.

The kidnap happened on Friday 19 October at around 4.46 pm along the single lane Kaduna -Kachia road. The kidnappers about 9 in number, first stopped a vehicle coming from Kachia going to Kaduna carrying a man , his wife and their driver all Muslims and this group was the group whose relative contacted me. They were first dispossessed of their belongings and the victims at that time thought this was a mere robbery. Then came the Chief of Adara’s jeep from the Kaduna direction which was equally stopped with his Orderly and local Dogari killed on the spot leaving the chief , his wife and driver . Another man from a different vehicle was also taken After dispossessing the kidnappers told the now 7 victims from the 3 vehicles (Chief + Wife + 2 aides, Man +Wife, and a lone Man) to follow them into the bush on foot . All the 7 victims were kept in one location.

On Saturday late night , probably due to the condition of the Chief’s wife, the kidnappers released her and allowed the driver of the other vehicle to lead her out of the bush and they reached civilization on Sunday morning. While in captivity, at a place not far from the town (according to one victim) , of the reaming 5 kidnap victims, the lone man kidnapped attempted an escape and had almost succeeded when the kidnappers captured and killed him. The kidnappers now had 4 victims remaining the Chief and his driver on one side, and the other man and his wife on the other. Eventually, the kidnappers made contact with the relative of the first group (not the Chief’s group) and demanded a ransom of N50 million for the release of the man and his wife. I would assume that similar or same demand was made to the Chief’s relatives but I am not privy to this. Negotiations were on back and forth for a reduction and according to the victim each time that a deal failed to be struck the kidnappers come back and beat them mercilessly. Finally the kidnappers agreed to accept N1.5 million for the release of the man and his wife. The relative who called me , was later called by the kidnappers at 12 00 on Thursday 25 October and instructed to come to Jere with the ransom. I advised him to demand speaking with his relative as Proof of Life as it would not make sense to pay ransom when the victim might have already been killed. The kidnappers obliged and allowed him to speak with his brother. Arriving Jere, he received another call telling him to move to Katari.

At Katari, near a certain petrol station, off the road leading to Gurara dam , he took an unused road towards a certain rail/road junction. He was then instructed to leave his car and walk about 1-2 km with the money along a river bank as he passed some children playing. Just as he was wondering there was nobody to meet, 2 of the kidnappers in their 20s, with Fulani features appeared with AK-47s with their faces partially covered. They asked, in Hausa, if he had the money to which he responded in the affirmative and proceeded to bring out and show them the money from his bag. They then asked “Are you sure the money is complete?” and he answered that he believed so but cannot be certain as took the money straight from the bank. “Why don’t we count just to be sure” he offered, but they said NO……”If it is not complete you will hear from us they said menacingly. This intermediary , a security expert himself , had wisely carried an extra N20, 000 just in case the money from the bank was not complete as from experience any shortage from the stated amount could lead to the kidnap victim being killed or injured. Now as this intermediary was leaving the place he made the ransom payment, he saw a black Peugeot 307 with a well dressed man in Caftan heading towards the drop zone and he surmised that this neatly dressed man was also going to make payment. It turned out that the man was a senior aide of the Chief of Adara and he too was going to keep rendezvous with the kidnappers.

After collecting the money they told the intermediary to head to Diko junction near Abuja as according to them , the victims are kept and would be released from Minna. He arrived Diko around 4 pm and waited for the call till 1 am in the morning. As it turned out , sending him to Diko was a ruse as the 2 victims he was representing had already been released at around 7pm somewhere near Katari. Now as earlier stated all the 4 victims including the chief were kept in one location and according to the victim that was rescued to pass time, he and the Chief engaged in discussions with the Chief telling them to please visit his place when next they were passing by. Now according to the rescued victim, when the time for their release came, the kidnappers instructed that the man and his wife leave by one direction while the chief and his driver leaves by another direction. That, was the last he saw the chief and he was actually surprised to hear that the Chief’s body has been found.
The Chief of Adara is dead and it may not be important how or why he was killed . But I am relating story , just to disabuse the minds of those saying that the killing of Chief Adara has religious or ethnic undertones. Rather it was a kidnap that went wrong and we do not know what made the kidnappers to kill him after collecting ransom and ostensibly releasing him and the other captives. Just so that you know.
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I'd prefer if he had done more in his four years to de-escalate the constant upheavals. That would be an achievement, not this. He was elected to improve the well being of the citizens of the state not act as a fire fighter. And if he cannot do this the people of Kaduna should find someone else who will at the polls or extract solid commitments that he will find a lasting solution if he should be returned.

Our threshold for the performance of public servants should rise to the challenges that exist. I cannot see anything in these pictures or discourse that shows the people expect more than they experience. What is there to show that another four years of El-Rufai in government will not result in these quarterly incidents.

The state cannot grow this way and no serious economic investment will take root if the people don't rise above social mediocrity.

While I agree with you that our leaders need to be tasked and held responsible for the challenges we are facing, because that was what they promised; but at the same time we need to fair and not malicious in our comments.

Some of the comments I have read here are pure evil, the crisis in Kaduna predates El rufai, and anyone who is sincere and honest will agree so. There is no one who can easily solve the Kaduna communal issues, because these things are deep rooted in decades of conflict and hatred. To make matters worse people peddle dastardly lies against each other, thereby deepening the hatred among both ethnic groups.

Kidnapping has been a problem in Kaduna for some time now, security agencies and the Governor should take responsibility. Why? Because it is their duty to protect life & Property, but this does not imply that they are complicit in the kidnapping. After the Kasuwa Magani crisis, the King of Adara was kidnapped and subsequently killed; this caused the Adara people to go on rampage and start killing Hausas; in Kaduna once such attacks start on one end then it spirals and reprisals start everywhere.

Because the people are filled with suspicion of one and other, the people suspected the Hausas kidnapped their king in reprisal for the Kasuwa Magani attacks. It is just a vicious cycle!. Below is an account of an witness of the event, we all should just preach peace and stop spreading hate. Neither the Adara nor the Hausas are free of blame.

THE LATEST KADUNA CRISIS : THE KILLING OF CHIEF ADARA , A KIDNAP GONE WRONG NOT ETHNIC/RELIGIOUS KILLING
With lives and properties at stake , and based on credible information at my disposal I find it necessary to explain the immediate cause of the new wave of violence that engulfed Kaduna today. Being Kaduna state , already some narratives are reporting the killing of the Adara Chief as a religious/ethnic conflict. It is not. The Chief died as a result of a kidnap (he was kidnapped along with 5 others) that went horribly wrong.
Without mentioning names, I had the unpleasant experience of being indirectly involved in the ransom negotiations for the release of the 2 of the kidnap victims (not on the side of the Chief) when a relative of some of the kidnap victims was contacted by the kidnappers and he in turn contacted me to compare notes.
The kidnap happened on Friday 19 October at around 4.46 pm along the single lane Kaduna -Kachia road. The kidnappers about 9 in number, first stopped a vehicle coming from Kachia going to Kaduna carrying a man , his wife and their driver all Muslims and this group was the group whose relative contacted me. They were first dispossessed of their belongings and the victims at that time thought this was a mere robbery. Then came the Chief of Adara’s jeep from the Kaduna direction which was equally stopped with his Orderly and local Dogari killed on the spot leaving the chief , his wife and driver . Another man from a different vehicle was also taken After dispossessing the kidnappers told the now 7 victims from the 3 vehicles (Chief + Wife + 2 aides, Man +Wife, and a lone Man) to follow them into the bush on foot . All the 7 victims were kept in one location.
On Saturday late night , probably due to the condition of the Chief’s wife, the kidnappers released her and allowed the driver of the other vehicle to lead her out of the bush and they reached civilization on Sunday morning. While in captivity, at a place not far from the town (according to one victim) , of the reaming 5 kidnap victims, the lone man kidnapped attempted an escape and had almost succeeded when the kidnappers captured and killed him. The kidnappers now had 4 victims remaining the Chief and his driver on one side, and the other man and his wife on the other. Eventually, the kidnappers made contact with the relative of the first group (not the Chief’s group) and demanded a ransom of N50 million for the release of the man and his wife. I would assume that similar or same demand was made to the Chief’s relatives but I am not privy to this. Negotiations were on back and forth for a reduction and according to the victim each time that a deal failed to be struck the kidnappers come back and beat them mercilessly. Finally the kidnappers agreed to accept N1.5 million for the release of the man and his wife. The relative who called me , was later called by the kidnappers at 12 00 on Thursday 25 October and instructed to come to Jere with the ransom. I advised him to demand speaking with his relative as Proof of Life as it would not make sense to pay ransom when the victim might have already been killed. The kidnappers obliged and allowed him to speak with his brother. Arriving Jere, he received another call telling him to move to Katari. At Katari, near a certain petrol station, off the road leading to Gurara dam , he took an unused road towards a certain rail/road junction. He was then instructed to leave his car and walk about 1-2 km with the money along a river bank as he passed some children playing. Just as he was wondering there was nobody to meet, 2 of the kidnappers in their 20s, with Fulani features appeared with AK-47s with their faces partially covered. They asked, in Hausa, if he had the money to which he responded in the affirmative and proceeded to bring out and show them the money from his bag. They then asked “Are you sure the money is complete?” and he answered that he believed so but cannot be certain as took the money straight from the bank. “Why don’t we count just to be sure” he offered, but they said NO……”If it is not complete you will hear from us they said menacingly. This intermediary , a security expert himself , had wisely carried an extra N20, 000 just in case the money from the bank was not complete as from experience any shortage from the stated amount could lead to the kidnap victim being killed or injured. Now as this intermediary was leaving the place he made the ransom payment, he saw a black Peugeot 307 with a well dressed man in Caftan heading towards the drop zone and he surmised that this neatly dressed man was also going to make payment. It turned out that the man was a senior aide of the Chief of Adara and he too was going to keep rendezvous with the kidnappers.
After collecting the money they told the intermediary to head to Diko junction near Abuja as according to them , the victims are kept and would be released from Minna. He arrived Diko around 4 pm and waited for the call till 1 am in the morning. As it turned out , sending him to Diko was a ruse as the 2 victims he was representing had already been released at around 7pm somewhere near Katari. Now as earlier stated all the 4 victims including the chief were kept in one location and according to the victim that was rescued to pass time, he and the Chief engaged in discussions with the Chief telling them to please visit his place when next they were passing by. Now according to the rescued victim, when the time for their release came, the kidnappers instructed that the man and his wife leave by one direction while the chief and his driver leaves by another direction. That, was the last he saw the chief and he was actually surprised to hear that the Chief’s body has been found.
The Chief of Adara is dead and it may not be important how or why he was killed . But I am relating story , just to disabuse the minds of those saying that the killing of Chief Adara has religious or ethnic undertones. Rather it was a kidnap that went wrong and we do not know what made the kidnappers to kill him after collecting ransom and ostensibly releasing him and the other captives. Just so that you know.
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It is our hope that the government will take heed of this advice. The state Government needs to take deliberate and comprehensive measures to address the deep discord between the different tribes in Kaduna. A truth and reconciliation commission needs to be setup.

whytepawn1:
just so sad... saw this news on front page and had to call my parents in ungwan Sunday area in Kaduna... they told me of a man I know very well, who went to kasuwa magani on that faithful day and till date no one have heard from him, the dreaded truth is just that he might as well be a victim. his phone is switched off.
I wouldn't blame the people for any reprisal attack. the government should be more proactive, these senseless killings just have to stop.

Just condemn the attacks, that's the best you can do. Don't talk of reprisals, majority of the victims in Kasuwa Magnani are the Hausas, the reasons govt understated the casualty is to avoid reprisals from Hausa strong holds.

Kanu is just making this thing difficult, He could easily have asked for the Igbo states alone, Anambra, Enugu, Imo, Ebonyi, Abia, to secede. The rest of Nigeria won't pose much resistance, but no the thief wants South-South join, are they igbos ?? Ole

jammal:
Ur comment is senseless, was it the southern kaduna youths that caused the fight? And did u say is leaving better? U need to get ur head examined. With d hand to mouth ur people leave, just watch d curfew will be relaxed so u guys don't die of hunger

Do you know what caused the fight?? Let's learn to condemn bad things regardless if the perpetrators share the same faith with us. All those that have been killed in Sabo today simply because they are Muslims or Hausas is very wrong. What I expect is a condemnation and a call for justice. There is nothing like reprisal, even in foot ball a reprisal is a red card

BiafraIShere:
I don't know why I found this post hilarious

I became afraid the moment you mentioned Allahu Akbomb, that statement is synonymous with terrorism and terrorist attacks globally, but whenever I hear Jesus, I feel safe because that word is synonymous with peace and love globally!!
I'm yet to find an Islamic country that is at peace with itself and neighbors!!!

So much bloodshed associated with so called religion of peace. May God protect his children in that hostile region.

In case U are not aware the place this violence is happening is the xtian area of Kaduna. In case you don't know the people killing are the xtians in Sabo, mosque are burning, Muslim homes are burning. That's the story, anyone who hears of crisis in Sabo knows Muslims are the ones that are vulnerable.

ZKOSOSO:
Tinubu alone switch loyalty because of RELIGION..!

Buhari instructed Tinubu to ensure a MUSLIM is put in place as Lagos Governor.

Islamisation of SW politicians is in top gear...!

Thank God Sanwo Olu is xtian, this is how idiots like this poster would have been peddling falsehood everywhere. Sit down in their bedroom and turn figments of their imagination to facts which they start peddling to create hate and discord. Foolish animals

Going by the debates, it appears to me a lot of people acknowledge the developmental projects of Aregbesola. Very few spoke of bad roads, abandoned projects etc. The debate was more about oh should He have built mega schools instead of renovating the old ones.

It was a shift way from the usual debates, the modulated Salary issue is the biggest failure of this govt, and if it loses this election trust me it will be because of modulated Salary. However, despite his failures He still remains very popular because of the works that are acclaimed to be clearly evident in Oshogbo. Moreover Aregbesola's opponents do not command big respect in the state nor do they have huge serious sincere followership. At the end of today, we will know...

There a lots of indigenous Igbo Muslims. The Igbos know it themselves they only pretend like Muslims do not exist in Igbo land. There is a village in Enugu where the larger part of the population are muslims; similarly in Afikpo Eboyi state there is a large population of Muslims. And this are no reverts, I mean people whose grand fathers were muslims.

May God bring upon us all guidance.

May Allah reward this organisation's efforts, with the strength and wisdom to do many more good acts such as this.

AustineE1:
....the usual suspects has taken to the street to kill innocent people and as we all know,it will soon be swept under the carpet. The street of northern Nigeria is watered by the blood of the innocent and its crying out for justice. In my own part of the country,those who kill people are known as miscreants,criminals and are made to face justice when caught but in the north miscreants(Almajiris) are usually above the law because there evil acts are often backed by either religious or political leaders. This is the story of Nigeria.
RIP to the innocent!

Abdulwahab Jibo said the problem started about two weeks ago, but steps were not taken to nip it in the bud.
“There are Muslims boys that are dating Christian girls. Some of the girls dating the Muslim boys converted to Islam,” Jibo said.
Lost for words… this man is among the victims of the crisis
“The brothers of one of the girls who converted and married a Muslim boy rejected the marriage and went to the residence of the Muslim boy to take her away.
“The Muslim boys resisted attempts to forcefully take the girl and a fight ensued. When the Christian boys realised that they would be overpowered, they retreated and went back to mobilise their people. The Muslim boys also mobilised and before you knew it they started shooting guns and attacking each other with dangerous weapons.”
The police said 18 people have been arrested in connection with the incident.

The fabrication of Trinity

The only verse indicating trinity (the Father, the Son and the Holy Ghost are one) has been removed from the bible by 32 scholars of the bible in the Revised Standard Version among many other verses as fabrication after they realized that these verses do not exist in the most ancient manuscript and as such there is not a single verse indicating Trinity anymore in the complete bible.

John A-V {5:7} For there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one. (This verse does not exist anymore in the RSV)

HIS REJECTION OF DIVINITY

(There is not a single clear unequivocal statement in the complete bible where Jesus himself says that I am God or worship me)
Mathew A-V {19:16} And, behold, one came and said unto him, Good Master, what good thing shall I do, that I may have eternal life? {19:17} And he (Jesus) said unto him, Why callest thou me good? [there is] none good but one, [that is,] God: but if thou wilt enter into life, keep the commandments.

Mathew A-V {23:9} And call no [man] your father upon the earth: for one is your Father, which is in heaven. {23:10} Neither be ye called masters: for one is your Master, [even] Christ.
Peter testifies that Jesus is a man; Acts A-V {2:22} Ye men of Israel, hear these words; Jesus of Nazareth, a man approved of God among you by miracles and wonders and signs, which God did by him in the midst of you, as ye yourselves also know:

Mathew A-V {7:21} Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven.

John A-V {17:3} Jesus said: And this is life eternal, that they might know thee the only true God, and Jesus Christ, whom thou hast sent.

Mark A-V {12:29} And Jesus answered him, The first of all the commandments [is,] Hear, O Israel; The Lord our God is one Lord:

John A-V {5:37} And the Father himself, which hath sent me, hath borne witness of me. Ye have neither heard his voice at any time, nor seen his shape.

Jesus response to the Christians in his second coming

Matthew A-V {7:22} Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works? {7:23} And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity.

daroz:
Frankly I am so surprised at those people who are saying she shouldn’t mention the names of the so called politicians and pastors who sponsored her to lie against Apostle Suleiman , because by doing so her security will not be guaranteed.

Now let’s see it this way, if it’s actually true she was sponsored by someone or a group of persons , don’t you think it’s even now that her life will be of grave danger ? Because now that she has started confessing without mentioning the names of sponsores, the so called sponsores will quickly use this opportunity to silence her for life before she totally lose guide and mention their names.

But on the other hand , if she was actually sponsored, this is the right time she will mention their names and provide real hard evidence to back up her claims. By so doing all eyes will be on the so called sponsores and they won’t be able to do her anything because the whole world will know who is responsible.

But I know this girl will never mention any sponsor, cos there is none. I am sure she must have decided to make a false confession as a result the percussion along side with physical and spiritual attack she may have received so far as a result of this case. It’s also very very possible she must have been sponsored heavily to make this confession, this is why she did it hurriedly without any concrete revelation or details(in contrast to all the details and evidences she provided when she was accusing him), neither was there any sign of real remorsefulness .

By the way, why are people mentioning security reasons for her reason not to mention names . Why wasn’t she mindful of that when she was making all the accusations with evidences? These pastors/ religious leaders can be more powerful than those so called politicians at times.

My little observation is that her real sponsors are the one who sponsored her to make this fake confession.
If my observation/ analyses are wrong , God pls forgive me, I am only a human being

Suspicious to say the least. Otobo always wanted money from the beginning. She probably got what she wanted

Where is Redeem Church & MFM in this ranking

tomdon:
This is a good development and should continue in a bid to exterminate the Fulani killers
So just two killers were killed and they're shouting massacre
These are people who kill innocent farmers and destroy farmlands with impunity.
Good development. Spare not the rod. No pity for killers
They kill... They should be hunted down!!!

Bros. let us be careful of spreading hate. This is not the first time Fulanis are being killed, it has been a tit for tat thing going on for long. The sad part is that the atrocities against the Fulanis hardly get reported, and this is making the matter even worse. The massacre at mambilla plateau didn't get half the reportage the Benue killings has got, yet the casualities was a lot more.

It is in the interest of everyone to pursue peace, because those Fulani guys we take their pound of flesh back and the violence will continue. We all should pursue justice for these guys, the same way we seek justice for the farmers in order to prevent further escalation of violence.

On the bright side. We should be proud we have a first family with a honest wife. We should be proud that in this same country the EFCC can attempt to arrest the SGF. There a few good signs, we hope someone will take it over from Buhari to the next level.

There is got to be a strategy to contain Zambia's number 9, the guy is out playing our central defence. I don't know how we will cope for the next 45mins

sosasatire:
All i could read from your write up is envy and hate because the Governor did not give you the contract. If you are really a farmer you would no that the Maize farm is doing well, how many leaves dud the insect infest? You are just a busy body man

GBAM, the OP is making a far reaching judgement based on less than 10 leaves He saw on a photo for a 450hectares farm!. That's obviously beef and insincerity .

How can you blame the man, the work of a pastor is the most lucrative job in Nigeria today, imagine if someone claimed to be Jesus himself!??

eshietIntrepid:
Honestly millions are secretly wish and praying Biafra is actualized even when they don't want to be amongst Biafra, they believe once Biafra is realized they also can break away. Everyone is tired of Nigeria "and one tribe is responsible for all the agitations they believe ruling Nigeria is their birth right".

The Northerners you mean!.People need to get this brainwash off their head. For how long has the North really ruled us since democracy?

Obasanjo- (SW) - 8 years
Yaradua- (NW) - 2 years
GEJ-(SS) - 6 years
Buhari - 2 years
Possibly Osinbajo - 2 years

Lets be real with what we say, we are in a democracy now, I still don't get how the born to rule cliche comes in again.

The same Kanu was for "One Nigeria", when GEJ ruled and now a Northerner is in power and suddenly He is raising the tempo for Biafra, how democractic is that?

We need to stop making blanket calls for restructuring, we need to state what we need to be restructured. Lets state what policies or laws we think should be expunged and what laws we need to add to the constitution.

Cuche:
The fears and reasoning of the traders are logical but it is not correct in practice. Take for example, when big white farmers came on board, such fears were entertained by the local farmers, however, it is crystal clear that with a large market like ours and so many factors that drag market share including product bias , no company can successfully run a complete monopoly in some goods, not even in services.
There is this million dollar Shonghai farms and other large poultry farms with the Whites as principal partners, many thought their entrance into the market will stifle the subsistence farmers, but it didn't. Instead, the high yield technologies and systematic approach they came with are in the hands of the locals today, less cycle time, more turnover, disease resistant spp, improved vaccines, relatively cheaper broods, more accessible and better feeds manufactured by the bigger companies. Moreover, the meat market target of huge farms are the export and big enterprises like fastfoods and hotels, the frozen food chains which were hitherto controlled by Benin Republic. The local farmer retains his market and at a higher profit margin with the technology made available by the White farmers.
Similarly, the shoe manufacturers will learn and get technology leaks (the painstaking works of many years) for free. The raw materials like high quality leathers, soles, gums, pins, packages and 'branding' will likely be manufactured here by the Chinese who I know will not like to be wasting cash on duty for things a few line of robots and machines will produce in minutes The people that will be affected are the importers of these items .
Again the product preference, like many will not like meats believed to have gone through genetic modifications and steroid manipulations, many will have strong bias for robot made shoes as against handmade shoes.
Till they come, the fears are coming too early!

Best comment. Others should just read & learn, instead of making silly remarks.

ayogozie:
It seems like is only the east that is petronising innoson all alone

That is not true. The whole of Nigeria is not patrionizing Innoson enough, especially Govt. I mean state &Federal Govt.

This is the first time I will see Governor give out a fairly used car; this does not even look like Tokunboh!

Juliet Ejue just destroyed Ahmed Musa's home. Sbe was rocking another woman's husband and now finally she has seized him completely. Hopefully Musa will come back to his senses soon. I so much pity Jamila

Adeboye is highly reverred and a big celebrity in the Christian World (at least Nigeria). Ooni is just exploiting Adeboye's status, showing Adeboye humility is nothing; showing the people (your supposed subjects) humility is what should be praised. Goodluck Jonathan also attempted to exploit Adeboye's popularity but unfortunately it was not enough to return him as president. He knelt before Adeboye to seek his divine powers I believe, and to also curry the supports of millions of Adeboye's ardent followers, whom will be delighted to see the President kneel before their own FATHER!. Ambode has also played this script, let us see where all these takes us in the end.

Adeboye is the Pastor of the moment, He has Lagos (Ambode) & Nigeria (Osinbajo) under him at the moment.

Alarefe is just one man. The news reported it that many Muslims disagreed with his view, like I also disagree with his view utterly. But no, xtians will rather prefer to insult Islam and Muslims in general, because of one person's twisted view, even if most Muslims disagree with him. Christians really need to do a self assessment of their comments!

Dc4life:
Those women praying are way better than those that were standing and filming. One thing I've learnt is not to say anything against anyone communicating with God.

They are not against God, it is a stupid act!.

sexybbstar:
Really?Eyah,with all her instagram pictures,one would think she is a very happy woman.Why would a woman stay in a violent marriage?This is so bad.
Wealth does not determine a happy marriage.With enough money to spend on designers,but even the smallest denomination does not grant her a blissful marriage.
SAY NO TO DOMESTIC VIOLENCE.

See the husband calling her promiscous and irresponsible..Why did you marry her in the first place then,imagine,the mother of your kid.

No matter what,a man must not raise his hands on a woman.Its uncalled for.

May God never make us stoop to the level where we beat our wives!, May we not encounter such frustration

ilynem:
Oh please! Amran is Jewish while Imran is Arabic just like Abraham is Jewish and Ibrahim is Arabic. So Imran is a family that produced prophets, how many did it produce? Isn't it obvious? Let me break it down for you.
Mary is called Maryam in Arabic.
There is a sister of Moses and Aaron by the name of Miriam.
Allah thought this Miriam was the same Maryam the mother of Jesus and hence called her sister of Aaron.
And just so you know, there is absolutely no proof that Mary is from a priestly family. In fact the Angel Gabriel said her son will take the throne of his father David and this means that she is actually from the lineage of Judah! She had no brother called Aaron (Harun) and her father was not Amran (Imran) but Joachim.
And as for me running away from arguments? There is nothing else to argue. I have already established that your Koran is a violent book and war cry to you Muslims to spill blood. And you blaming the west for all the Islamic terrorists is just a weak attempt I can't even start arguing with you. I guess all the terrorist attacks (even the recent one in London) was also done by the west? And you expect me to believe you have access to classified info. Please, I am just pointing out how much of a joke you Koran is by showing you it doesn't know the difference between Maryam and Miriam.

Lets just take the bolded part of your response in the light of Quranic and biblical verses. Let us judge by what is in the text of the Quran & Bible. It is all here with evidences for you to see:

1.Bible: "Dont think i come to bring peace to this earth but a SWORD. matt 10:34
Quran: "We have sent you(Muhammad) as a mercy to whole humanity.

2. Bible: Those that refuse to accept me as their king bring them and SLAUGHTER them.Luke 19:27.
Quran: "Let there be no compulsion in religion".Baqara2:256, "You shall hav your religion and i shall have my religion.ch109:6

3. Bible: "Sell your coats and buy yourself a SWORD" Luke22:36
Quran: "Whoever kills an innocent soul it is as if he has killed mankind entirely. And whoever saves a soul - it is as if he has saved mankind entirely." Ma'ida ch5:32
“ Whoever kills a person(non muslim) having treaty with muslims will never smell the fragrance of Paradise. Hadith Sahih Bukhari Vol4 3166


Be sincere, God may shower his mercy on you.

Danmaiduguri:
The Quran you supposed upside down vs The up right Bible from Jesus(peace be upon him). Judge for urself

1.Bible: "Dont think i come to bring peace to this earth but a SWORD. matt 10:34
Quran: "We have sent you(Muhammad) as a mercy to whole humanity.

2. Bible: Those that refuse to accept me as their king bring them and SLAUGHTER them.Luke 19:27.
Quran: "Let there be no compulsion in religion".Baqara2:256, "You shall hav your religion and i shall have my religion.ch109:6

3. Bible: "Sell your coats and buy yourself a SWORD" Luke22:36
Quran: "Whoever kills an innocent soul it is as if he has killed mankind entirely. And whoever saves a soul - it is as if he has saved mankind entirely." Ma'ida ch5:32
“ Whoever kills a person(non muslim) having treaty with muslims will never smell the fragrance of Paradise. Hadith Sahih Bukhari Vol4 3166

No need to make a comment. It is all there in black & white

kingsouthie:
Altered how?by who??the manuscripts exists in different languages and cant all be exactly the same.haba
The catholic bible contains the apocrypha which were not included by the council of nicea because they contain some confusing texts, there are many older books as well,not all are considered scriptural.
Leave out these images and what have you...Jesus Christ or Yeshua if you would like the Hebrew version, is still the Son of God and Saviour for mankind

Indeed, Yeshua is the Hebrew name for Jesus. It means "Yahweh [the Lord] is Salvation." The English spelling of Yeshua is “Joshua.” However, when translated from Hebrew into the Greek language, in which the New Testament was written, the name Yeshua becomes Iēsous.

The English spelling for Iēsous is “Jesus.”

What this means is Joshua and Jesus are the same name. One is translated from Hebrew into English, the other from Greek into English. It is interesting to note, the names "Joshua" and "Isaiah" are essentially the same names as Yeshua in Hebrew. They mean "Savior" and "the salvation of the Lord."

Let me ask you, when you go to France does your name suddenly change to a french version