forgiveness: Well, at this junction, I don't want to discuss. It could be used against mein the future. I retract my early derogatory statement about South Africa. EOD
I thought you wanted to gun battle with Clint Eastwood the quickest gunslinger there ever was
XhosaNostra: LMAO. There's something called umkhitha or ukucikizwa, but I don't think there's a name for it English. It can only described as, "It's like God took a fine brush to create the person". Having finely-chiseled features. So ja, theirs always look like doodling or a hurriedly done chicken scratch
XhosaNostra: No, the name of the movie she starred in is Monster. She portrayed female serial killer, Aileen Wournos...hence I used the term, "American psycho".
Yeah, I watched it & every single one of them got on my nerves with their BS accents lol.
Morgan tried, but his own was tolerable mainly because he had a bit of resemblance to Madiba, plus it appeared as if he'd done his part in studying the mannerisms of his subject etc. Overall, he did a better job.
I get you
Check Idris Elba in Beast Of No Nation.I think he nailed the Nigerian accent
XhosaNostra: Charlize played American psycho, Aileen Wuornos though She played the part well, down to the accent.
The problem South Africans have with American actors telling South African stories, in particular, is their arrogance by not putting enough effort when portraying "African" characters, real or fiction. The accents are always irritatingly OFF. It ruins the moment. Leonardo DiCaprio put on a stellar performance portraying a South African in Blood Diamond & so did Ryan Phillippe in The Bang Bang Club. Their accents were spot on. The rest were wack. That's what we want to see, EFFORT or leave it to the Real Mccoys to tell their own stories with the dignity they deserve.
That's the main problem.They can't hit the right inflections so these movies come of as quick money-making schemes for Americans.I remember watching Winnie and being irritated by Jennifer Hudson not knowing how to pronounce "amandla", she would say "amandza" instead...like how hard can that be? Lol
And yeah.Morgan Freeman also gave a decent performance in Invictus.
BascoVanVeli: Last I checked they are in 2 different continents. There is no alliance just a similar language. Maybe it is the lasting image James Bond has left on the country.
David Oyelowo played an African American in red tails and he is British. If an actor from another country wants to act in America they will move to Hollywood and audition for roles like everyone else. This isn't rocket science, u can't get a role that you never auditioned for.
There's no alliance? Aren't white Americans descendants of British people?
Yes you can move there but what are the chances of being chosen over someone who grew up in the vicinity of Hollywood if you are an outsider?
daveP: Hahaahhha Lazy thinkers!!! Pls reread all i read before you leap. Lol
You have comprehension issues i guess.
I stated facts and that makes me a lazy thinker.
If Madiba is that revered, why did it no occur to the black directors to adapt his life into a movie? Why wait for the white man to come and then when he wants to do it his way, SA was all ranting up and down asif its an entitlement.
Be like church sister wey brothers in tha lord dey overlook for marriage until ine brother from another church kon toast am ask her out. All of dem kon sit up, open eye say sister wey fine dey dia church.
You need work on your thinking.
And oh, i enjoyed Rhythm City very much until David Gennaro part began to bore me. But fact remain facts!!! Think harder pls.
Your an unrepentant blockhead lol
so just because we didn't decide to turn his life into a movie it means we must let an outsider tell the story? We didn't wait for anyone We would prefer if the story remains untold if they could not find a South African that would make it authentic.
BascoVanVeli: A great number of British actors and actresses have acted as Americans in American movies.
Given the great alliance between America and Britain,do you think what you just said nullifies the fact that Americans don't let outsiders play in American true story-based films?
Most of those British actors are casted in fictions anyway,so that doesn't count.Charlize Theron & Arnold Vosloo are South Africans who made it big in Hollywood but the question is doing you think they will be considered if a movie about Abraham Lincoln or Benjamin Franklin was to be made? HELL NO!!
XhosaNostra: Just as long as it's clear that we're not going to be arm-wrestled or browbeaten "into the box", otherwise I personally couldn't give a rat's ass about their grandiosity.
daveP: Bollywood have been copycats of many superhero movies from DC and Marvel of late. Guess what its raking in hundreds of millions for them. They quickly adapted from their usual dance and sing. Did that erode their cultural values or identity? Not a bit.
See us all here. If we have a hostel of 35rooms and 20 peeps are with laptops, at least 18 of them will have 4 Bollywood movies. Can same be said for Nollywood in India? That's my point here. We should aim for the best and get it.
Sometimes ago, we heard Genevieve and Omotola's bill for a movie increased so they got sidelined.... Lemme not start with that.... Cos it would heat things up.
We just need rake im that money.
That if a trailer makes it to New York electronic billboards, 4secs should be enough to want passers-by to wana see it and hype it.
We still live Nollywoood pass SA, no doubt. Minus the white men influence on their movie industry and we have....
I don't like going down that road.
Learnt a Walk to Freedom was i itiated by a white man and when he brought this Empire Luscious Lyon and Jennifer Hudson to play Mandela and Winnie, the blacks in sA revolted...
But did they think of doing the movie before the white dude came? No!!!
Its a franchise and cash inflow is the deal.
NL is really full of lazy thinkers.It's actually heartbreaking to read what grown men & women type here sometimes
Firstly - Whether we thought of doing the movie before is not important.We want South African stories to be told by people who understand them the most,and who could that be if not South Africans themselves? .If you can't cast a South African then pack your Hollywood equipment and follow the sunset.
Secondly - Why are American stories off limits to non American actors yet they want their actors to touch our stories? give me a call when they finally allow a South African to play Malcolm X or Martin Luther King Jr.
XhosaNostra: Thethi kaka that one, in fact, voetsek!
All I'm getting from the rant is that, we should be kowtowing & bowing to THEM, to have the right to wear the African badge. It's not going to happen! We don't care if nobody "rates" us because we choose not to have our African identity defined by others or by the movies we watch etc. What a silly notion to begin with, that as an African you can only make your nod of approval on all things African & nothing else. Isn't that another form of mental slavery? Because only an unliberated mind would shackle themselves with such limiting beliefs, where you're not allowed free thought, to make personal choices based on preference than popular opinion & race.
Another thing I find interesting & rather hypocritical, Nigeria is the only place where you find things like, "UK used laptops etc", yet she wanna stand on the soapbox preaching about Africanism, when her own people see more value when things have been "used" or produced elsewhere. You cannot help but be amused by the blatant hypocrisy & faux "wokeness".
So beautifully put.
I don't know who placed them at the top of the food chain and made them the avant-guards in approving what parts of African cultures should be dumped down and what parts are to be kept.
safarigirl: Yes, shaderoom recommended it, I said let me check it out and it was the worst 1hr+ of my life.
I could have wasted it watching that other foolish Indian program that they gave SA actors useless roles
I have never seen an SA movie that didn't give me a migraine. It's bad enough that their faces are like copy and paste.
YouTube always recommend videos for me but I have a functioning brain that allows me to sift through the nonsensical ones and pick the ones I want to watch.I can't believe you had to watch for 1hr+ before you realised you were watching a boring movie.But then again your neurons don't fire that quick.
Then who are you angry with? the only thing that's at fault here is your malfunctioning brain.I don't need to go five minutes into the movie to conclude that I'm watching bullshit.
Damn so you watched more than one boring SA movie and still could not get your sense of discernment awaken? You are one brick short of a full load and it ain't nobody's fault but your own.
take this wonderful quote as a parting gift from me to you.
"Life is hard.Life is even harder if you are stupid"____John Wayne
safarigirl: I wonder at the Nigerians that watch SA movies.
I mistakenly watched one last week. What a borefest!
South Africans are some of the biggest self-hating negroes, they are only concerned with the approval of their white masters, that is why they brag with Oscars and grammy awards. I don't know why any African will want the approval of people that spit on them, if it is not some form of mental problem.
The entire African continent approves of Nollywood, that is the only approval black people need; the approval of their fellow blacks. That is why nobody rates SA in Africa, all they know how to do is kiss caucasian butts.
Watching a movie by mistake? that's a first..
The reason other Africans rate your voodoo scripts is because they either don't know better or they can relate to the witchcraft in your movies.Who the fùck in their right mind would enjoy scenes of people snatching unborn babies from pregnant women's stomach by magic?
We don't want your approval.We not even competing with you.
Acadavah: Yeah we export those to you and you are one of the customers who buy a lot of those, thanks for the support of our industrialisation program.
You are welcome to give me the beautiful siñorita,but keep the doomsday symbol you call a flag.
Kazikazi: You said your grand pa got sick!? That is a curse from misusing our stuff. But dude,how is a renaming process of south Africa into Azania.I know a lot of folks wants that, EFF,PAC,and some ANC members are fond of Azania. So you first adopted our antherm Second was a partial adoption of our flag Then,here we are you want Swahili and the name Azania. You can have them.we are happy to help Africans.
And what about the Serengeti estate in Gauteng? How much are those beautiful houses? Oh I forgot,how is Kilimanjaro tiles? Do u have same in your home?
Call it a disrespectful gesture.We used some of your names because we can and you can't do anything about it.Have you realised most cities in the California state have Spanish names? does that mean Americans want to be like Mexico? .Speaking of Kilimanjaro,we are going to colonise you for that beautiful mountain.Your cow piss drinking self don't deserve it.
They are all over the street looking for job. As if South Africans are not the worst criminals.
The points remains they are running to NIG embassy begging for visa to come down here with their smelling mouth and armpit's odour.
Why would a South African beg for a Nigerian visa when Nigerians in the diaspora are writing letters to their government to denounce their Nigerian citizenships? who runs towards a burning house when its inhabitants are running from it?
XhosaNostra: Juju even wants the official language of SA to be Swahili Can you imagine? It's like he's living in a world of his own that one. Completely out of touch with reality. The same South Africans who're so proud of their languages will allow Swahili to supersede their own? SA would lit up like a furnace in hell
As for the rest of your post...
He's got this illusion that he's the one who decides what we should or should not accept as people.South Africans don't want to learn languages from their neigbouring countries,so why would they be keen on learning an unfamiliar language from so far away? people like Juju don't realise the more you force something down people's throats the more they vehemently reject it.
TMKsouth: Over-bloated egos. They forget we introduced them to supermarkets and quality television. Now they think they own us.
And with that quality television we helped promote their music in other African countries through DSTV.So I don't get what this entitled mentality is all about.