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gisevak:
How do atheists explain the origin of consciousness in the universe, and what are their views on the human existence and cosmic evolution?

Explain more on this your 'consciousness' , then I would answer you

Jokerman:
Wow.

God's so good.

Keeping the atheists and naysayers in the mud everyday

Yeah. Spider-man existed. Why do I think so? The Statue of Liberty, which he swings onto in the movies and comic books, also exists.
Theist logic 101

TenQ:
Benefits of Drinking the Blessed Urine of our Holy Prophet Mohammed

You got me rightly o: this is not my words, this is what Muslims teach themselves when they are in their mosques. The above is found in the islamic website Posted by IslamicVirtues in Islamic Medicine
https://islamicvirtues.com/2013/12/02/benefits-of-drinking-the-blessed-urine-of-our-holy-prophet-s/

BENEFITS OF DRINKING THE URINE OF PROPHET MOHAMMED
1. Guaranteed Entrance to Paradise:
Take for example the case where a companion of the Prophet drinks his blessed urine, only to discover that she has now been shielded completely from the fire of Hell!

Imam Suyyuti narrates an authentic report in his al-Khasaa’is al-Kubra, vol. 2, page 253 (published by Daar al-Kutub al-Arabiy — some other online editions have this narration in vol. 2, page 441):
And Tabarani and Bayhaqi narrated with an authentic chain of transmission from Hukaymah daughter of Umaymah from her mother (Umaymah) who said, the Prophet (May Allah bless him and grant him peace) had a wooden bowl in which He used to urinate which was placed under his bed. One night he searched for it but did not find it and asked for it saying, “Where is the bowl?” The members of the house replied “Barrah, the slave girl of Umm Salamah, drank it.” (Barrah had come with Umm Salamah from Habashah with her.)
The Prophet (S) replied, “Surely she has protected herself from the fire with a great wall!”

2. The Urine of Prophet Mohammed in Well water makes the water taste sweet and cool
Imam Abu Nu’aym narrates the practice of Anas RA, with his chain, who said: ‘The Messenger of Allah used to pray salah at his house and made it long. Once, He (Mohammed SAW) urinated in the well, which was situated inside the house. Anas said: ‘there was no well in Madinah which tasted more cool and sweet than it’. He said: ‘when the sahabah come to my house I serve them with the sweet water of that well. In the era of jahiliyyah it was known as al-Barud, ‘the cool well’’’.
http://scholarspen..ca/2005/05/prophets-urine_10.html

3. Mohammed's Urine is the water of paradise
To conclude, I’ll leave you with this statement from the scholar, mystic and exegete, Isma’eel Haqqi al-Barusi who says in His exegesis of the Qur’an titled ‘Rooh al-Bayan’: “His noble hair is from the vegetation of Paradise, his saliva is from the honey of Paradise, and His urine, as some of our wise men say, is the water of Paradise.”
http://scholarspen..ca/2005/05/prophets-urine_10.html

4. Mohammeds Urine is a cure for Stomach Pains
Imam Suyuti’s narrations
Imam Jalal al-Din Suyuti reports from Abu Ya’la, Hakim, Dar Qutni, Tabarani and Abu Nu’aym from Umm Ayman May Allah be pleased with her, who said, ‘the Prophet got up one night and urinated in a bowl. During that night, I rose in the state of thirst so I drank whatever was in the bowl. In the morning I told Him what I had done to which He smiled and said, ‘surely you will never have pain in your stomach’’. Abu Ya’ala’s wordings are as follows, ‘you will never feel stomach pain as of today’.

NOTE:
Details of All these Hadiths can be found in the Islamic website: IslamiEducation
https://www.islamieducation.com/purity-and-cure-in-the-prophets-urine/



Questions:
1. Since Mohammeds Urine can guarantee paradise for Muslims, where can Muslims get a few drops
2. Are you looking forward to drinking the Urine of Prophet Mohammed in Paradise?
3. Is this act of drinking Human Urine not an act of worship of Mohammed?
4. Is it true that Prophets Mohammed's urine can cure diseases?


Please let's make the answers short, direct and precise
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This is rich coming from a religion whose adherents drink water from washed pastors feet and effluent seeping from dirty statues

MrPresident1:
Exodus 15:26
And said, If thou wilt diligently hearken to the voice of the Lord thy God, and wilt do that which is right in his sight, and wilt give ear to his commandments, and keep all his statutes, I will put none of these diseases upon thee, which I have brought upon the Egyptians: for I am the Lord that healeth thee.

Cancer is a genetic level disease so it is difficult to cure by conventional medicine like tables or agbo, or injections. Cancer can only be cured at the genetic level by manipulating the genes/DNA. God is in charge of the DNA or 'Book of life' and any changes or alterations to it must happen as he directs, whether advantageous or deleterious.

Cancer is a disease that happens when an error occurs in the genetic coding for proteins. A string of DNA codes for certain proteins and these proteins are manufactured by the body, these are the building blocks of life, used for growth and repair. When there is an error in a DNA string, rogue proteins and the cells are created which go out of the control of the body's mechanism for destroying old cells. So, the body's mechanism for destroying and recycling old cells can not identify and destroy these cells. They grow and proliferate without control, and spread everywhere causing destruction and mayhem until they eventually kill the victim

Cancer happens by God's knowledge and acquiescence

1. Agbo is not conventional medicine
2. There are actually ways to prevent cancers. Ever heard of cancer vaccines?
3. Are you saying Yahweh loves causing pain and suffering for Christians who worship him?

Aemmyjah:
1. From a twisted brain- Jaephoenix's

2. What has atheists done to humanity? Are they stopping wars? Bringing diplomacy? Or you want us to believe that religious persons don't do charitable works as well... Awon survival of the fittest... You brought up stupid illustration about 99% JW and the need of army to protect the nation and we should be thankful. Now you claim humanists, you be mumu pro. Same you that said you only think of self... Whether you believe in God as a Christian, Muslim, traditionalist, Jew... Whether you believe God has no personality or he's in nature or he's not existent... It's still your religion as it shapes your idea and thoughts and lifestyle about God. You live for the moment like animals... How can you match altruism with evolution if God does not exist... Mr humanity ... Was it God or religion that caused Ethiopia drought problems... Atheists humanists are not among those contributing to wars and sophisticated weapons right? You be mumu pro max sef... The philanthropist humanist you said worship patriotism, what would he do if his nation were threatened? You don't even think... The real humanists would not lift up hands to kill even in the spirit of nationalism... Should we be quoting names of people who believe in God that are philanthropists VS names of atheists that are philanthropists and see...


3. Well, global peace is possible but not through man's efforts... Atheist shouting humanism and making the world a better place but knowing that global peace is not possible


4. Japan and China are atheistic countries? Your mumu no too much? And I guess that atheists are less criminals as the fittest survives right? If Mexico and all these crime infested land should become atheist, crimes and drug abuse and trafficking will end right? De play... Not all animals that live in the wild are wild... Whether wild or domestic, atheists are animals as they live for the moment

1. So the jw.org publications is from my twisted mind abi? Idiota!
2. Since JW started in 1914, how many wars have they stopped? Bascard of no father! We have fought 2 world wars and yet you idiotas cant stop any. You think you stop wars by becoming quiet?
I think of myself doesn't mean I can't protect myself.
Please look up the definition of religion. Stop pulling up definitions from your ass like your idiot brother MadMax.
3. Global peace is not possible. Even in your JW Congregation there is no peace, so fvck off!
4. I said relatively atheist. Scandinavian countries are relatively atheist compared to Latin America.
Idiotic bastard, what do you mean by live for the moment?

Aemmyjah:
And that includes the one you posted of a twisted, mentally imbalanced person right?

Yup

Aemmyjah:
What is the duty of the court? Olodo

Give judgments. Do they stop bullets?

Aemmyjah:
We don't share same mindset
Go n rest

Lol. So answer the question? What would Yahweh do in this case?

Aemmyjah:
What snippets?
Keep on assuming
Atheists with their wild imaginations

Oh you didn't see the jw.org publications? Yes or no?

Aemmyjah:
If?
But when I replied, you were attacking me
Shame on you
Stupid fallacy
Stupid question

I made a post and said IF. You replied that its impossible for the scenario to happen. Did I insinuate it happened? You well so?

MaxInDHouse:
Ọmọ there can never be such a place until God wipe out all unbelievers like you.

Lol. I know u didn't do kindergarten. So no need explaining English language to you

MaxInDHouse:
If your brain is working you should know that it makes no sense questioning people's beliefs when you're not interested in God!

Lol. Still dodging and derailing. Stick to the topic. Your replies to my posts are now getting hilarious. I feel your shame

Aemmyjah:
Since you have nothing relevant to say and prove your accusation and you're full of envy
Your comments are read and successfully ignored

Til now, days later, you are yet to respond to a post showing your jw.org talking about how you guys mol@st and gay rape people. Even MadMax shut up

achorladey:
Na now sun start to dey rise for your side. Go and meet the secretary of your congregation, tell him to hand over the keys where files and documents of their judicial actions.

You will get to see them there


After all you don deny publications of your religious organization several times. This time I have given you where to access them. Follow the direction given

Dont bother. He'll still tell you they are lies

Aemmyjah:
We don't excommunicate anyone from the kingdom of God but we can protect the congregation from unrepentant wrongdoers
We won't slap a young girl by calling her a witch
We won't sack pastors cos they are not bearing much fruits money
We won't insult a national or political figure too
We won't publicly preach violence

LIAR LIAR, PANTS ON FIRE.
See what your own jw.org says
We do not automatically disfellowship someone who commits a serious sin. If, however, a baptized Witness makes a practice of breaking the Bible’s moral code and does not repent, he or she will be shunned or disfellowshipped. The Bible clearly states: “Remove the wicked man from among yourselves.”—1 Corinthians 5:13.
https://www.jw.org/en/jehovahs-witnesses/faq/shunning/

MaxInDHouse:
Faithless miscreants thought everyone will be as faithless as they are.

How can someone tell me that doves in some places have become predators while doves in my own neighbourhood are harmless then i will immediately swallow it hook line and sinker that all doves are predators?

But you kept quiet when your jw.org publication talked about how rampant mol@stations are in your congregations

Aemmyjah:
Mention the cases you have seen and heard in Nigeria

And if we mention them, you'll still say its all lies. So what's the use?

Aemmyjah:
1. Cain married one of his sisters or relatives... Bible tells us that Adam became father to sons and daughters. Cain was a wanderer. Exactly when he got married, we don't know. Perhaps, it was during one of his wanderings that he came into contact with his wife.
Did God not know what he was saying? Cain was guilty of blood and another person would have been moved to administer justice by killing him. You ignore the part that it was Cain who was originally fearful that someone will kill him



2. The last chapter, containing the record of the death of Moses, may have been added by Joshua or by High Priest Eleazar... You want to deliberately ignore that even today, we have many writings that the author died before they completed but we're finished by someone else

3. Which kings did Moses wrote about that did not exist? You're just yanning nonsense without evidence... Keep blowing hot

4. Can you prove it that Noah's ark dwarf with the titanic. The genesis account gives the details of the measurements of the ark. Go and understand it and come back when you have done proper study instead of showing ignorance... Name where the Bible says that it was all the animals that entered into the ark... If it was God that wanted Noah to save some animals, you mean God cannot make the animals to live in coexistence without harming one another...

5. Go and ask your Sunday school teacher, why do you then blame the Bible for their ignorance. Perhaps they were misled by illustrations or the organ popularly called Adam apple

6. All the disciples were killed. Only John survived... Roman writers acknowledge about the opposition and brutal treatment Christians receive from the Roman authorities. Can you prove it was not scam... Did you not read that Peter and Paul wrote to encourage the brothers even on death... Paul wrote to Timothy that he has completed his assignment and that he should visit. He was in prison then and was about to get his death sentence


Sabbath or sungod has nothing to do with Christianity as Christianity did not replace Judaism. Main thing is that they meet together

You call Bible a myth and you're bringing up this points... You have problem

If Yahweh can make all the animals live in peace, why didn't he shrink 'em all to fit into Noah's palms instead of bothering ol' Noah to build an ark?
And just so you know, the ark is smaller than Titanic

Aemmyjah:
Fools song are only sweet to fools but the wise ignore
Do you even believe that an entire nation can be JW
Our religion is not a tool for political means
In Zambia, the ratio of the population to Jehovah's Witnesses is 1:99
We are not lookin for where to establish a state religion. True Christianity had nothing to do with politics or governance.

I believe you can read and write, idiott.
I said IF. I didn't say there is an actual country like that

Aemmyjah:
See this werey
Child abuse is reported on all groups whether social or political
Some people have given in to such desires
Personally, I have not heard or seen any like such in Nigeria among us and a fool like you haven't but you say we're infested with such people

Anyone guilty such offense will never receive any privileges and no child will even be allowed to get close to him as it will be a warning to other parents

As a whole, our children feel very safe with us and fellow brothers
Keep worrying yourself with madness
Atheist with no hope

Lets assume (for the sake of this discourse) that there's no sexual crimes amongst Nigerian JWs. You conveniently dodged the part that says JWs( meaning all JWs and we werent specific). And for some reason, you haven't replied the post where we posted snippets from your jw.org publications. Again(for the 3rd time) are you saying they are lying?

Negroid001:
Lemme help you add to the inaccuracies in the bible list. I'll share myths too.

2 creations stories are mentioned in genesis.
Who did cain marry when banished?
God put a mark on cain to serve as protection from anyone killing him if found. Who would have found him? Where they other inhabitants on earth?

They said moses wrote the first 5 books including deuteronomy. How would he have wrote a book and also include his own death with details. Same with Joshua.

In tbe book of genesis. Moses wrote about kings a4 people who didn't exist in his lifetime. Does it make sense?

Noah's ark is dwarfed in comparison to the titanic. How would all the animals have fit into the ark. How did they feed? How did they co exist?

No mention of apple in the creation story. Why did our Sunday school teachers tell us it was an apple.

The brutal killings of the 12 disciples is a scam.
It is not mentioned in the bible. Except they have another long lost book. We were all made to believe nonsense.

Why do Christians go to church on day dedicated to the sun god? Original jewish sabbath is Saturday.

Let's not even talk about xmas and Easter celebrations.

Those ones are elementary. Check out this thread.
https://www.nairaland.com/7659505/book-bible-gaffes
That’s where you have most of them. Many are inaccurate, most outright lies.
And I still have more gaffes from the bible

Aemmyjah:
No country can be 99% JW
Even if it were, we would not manage any political affairs
Political authority does not come from God or even man but the devil himself
Satan is the ruler of this world and he gives power to whoever he chooses
Whether we are the majority in a country or the minority, we have nothing to do with the political affairs of any nation

Ok. Lets just assume(for the purpose of this discourse) that the 99% JW allow the 1% to rule them. Obviously that country wouldn't have enough soldiers to fight off the enemy. So that means the rest of you JW would be killed off by your neighboring countries. Are you seeing you guys should be grateful?

Aemmyjah:
Keep begging for our attention to find relevance is what you atheists do
Go to the internet and you'll find what people have said about us including the high ranking officials who are pretty fair minded tho we don't need any man's approval

Atheist wey no get sense
Atheist with no hope or sense of purpose... Living for the moment like wild animals

Well, you have internet access and the time, so why don't you get me the links? Please do, and stop polluting this space with mouth odor

Aemmyjah:
See Olodo
What is the duty of a court?

Again, are the courts stopping the bullets killing Ukrainian and Russian soldiers? Doesn't it make their judgment irrelevant?
Is your skull this thick?

Aemmyjah:
Our campaign is changing lives for the better
People now have hope
People are learning how to truly love one another, avoiding conflicts and willing to rather die than to kill in the name of national interest
Criminals who have accepted Bible study and now becoming better citizens
Marriages on the brink of breaking up are now more united than ever
Our high moral standards help us maintain cleanliness and protect us from STDs
People who were anxious for the future are now full of hope
Indeed we are turning swords into plowshares
Our goal is to change hearts... Find those who are rightly disposed for everlasting life...

Can you now tell us how atheism can make the world a better place

Oh please shut your piehole!
There are whole websites dedicated to JW in-fighting and lawsuits. We are not fools

achorladey:
I talk am, he has to raise a question

And a stupid one at that

achorladey:


This one na serious wahala for Max, na rope question be this. No way he is going to respond to this without lies and manipulations

Considering the cases of homosexuality, fornication, adultery, child molestation and other vices found in their midst as captured in their own very publications

His fellow puppet is here disturbing me about how they cohabit with each other. Imagine? After they have fvcked each others children and wives. The fight there would be huge. But of course they would hide it

Aemmyjah:
Our kingdom campaign is changing hearts
Cos even atheists who have no common sense don't want to see cos of their acute blindness that the problem of man is moral, not political


The Bible has changed lives and keep Changing lives
People who accept the Bible now live clean and free... No fear of the future, criminals qre becoming better citizens, families that their unity was hanging on a thread are now well united and we have a loving, united brotherhood... The only group free frok conflict and bloodshed. This is only possible with God's help... Until everyone accept Jehovah as sovereign, the world will get better.

Now, educate us on how atheism has, are and can make the world better regarding
1. Personal lifestyle
2. Family relationships
3. Morals
4. Global unity, peace and security
This is your chance to educate us and everyone here.


I know one 'benefit'
An atheist does not feel accountable to an higher power so they can pursue their immediate selfish interests like animals... No sense of purpose, no future, living for the moment like wild animals

1. It has been proven that JWs mol@st each other's kids, fvck each other's wives etc. This has been confirmed by numerous news reports and even by your publication from jw.org. So you can't say they are lies. So tell me how can those members live in peace?
2. Atheism isn't a religion. Which channel are you watching if the TV is switched off? Is this data too difficult to sink into your thick stvpid skulls?
Having said that, atheists are humanistic in nature. The 2 biggest philanthropists in the world, Warren Buffett and Bill Gates are agnostic/atheists. Bill Gates, for example, is often thought of as an atheist. He once said "In terms of doing things, I take a fairly scientific approach to why things happen and how they happen. I don't know if there's a god or not, but I think religious principles are quite valid".
Warren Buffett once described himself as "agnostic". Buffett and Gates are arguably the two greatest philanthropists of our age.
One of the greatest philanthropists of all time, Andrew Carnegie, is reputed to have said, "I don’t believe in God. My god is patriotism. Teach a man to be a good citizen and you have solved the problem of life"
Without Gates, Rotary and other philanthropist groups wouldn't have kicked Polio outside nigeria. Also Gates vaccines have helped eradicate many childhood diseases killing our children.

Gino Strada is a surgeon. Some 20 years ago he left the practice and founded Emergency - Sito Ufficiale - Home, a charity that creates hospitals in war zones. Two basic concepts behind Emergency’s hospital are that they must be open to anyone, regardless of their affiliation, and that the level of the services must be comparable to the services offered in any European or American hospital. In the past 20 years, Gino Strada has spent most of his time curing people in war zones, even though he is now 70. And yes, he is an atheist (which is not written with a capital letter).
http://www.emergency.it/index.html

One example is Bob Geldof who is an atheist. He was so outraged at millions of Ethiopians dying during a drought so he organized a charity single to raise money to help them. He then went on to organize the international Live Aid event which raised millions more & finally Live Eight as well. His contributions must have saved countless lives & he only did it because the lives of those people mattered to him. He didn’t do it to get into heaven or avoid a hell because he doesn’t believe in any afterlife. He did it because it mattered to him & as a Humanist he knew it really mattered to them. Isn’t that better than doing it because he simply wanted to get into heaven or avoid a hell? i.e. Because he did it for selfish reasons.

You can read about Philanthropist atheists here(but I wager you wont )
https://www.nydailynews.com/2012/05/04/atheists-more-generous-than-religious-when-helping-others-study/

From The above, you can see tangible actions done by atheists to better the world. Do you see them making noise about it? No!

3. You talked about global peace. Do you think professing global peace is gonna make everyone fall in line and become peaceful? Are you guys naive or just plain daft?

4. Lol. So atheists live like wild animals? Lollest. Pray tell me which countries have more crimes? Did it occur to your idiotic brain that theistic countries have more crime rates than atheistic ones. Latin America is known for drugs and violent crimes. But guess what? Its a catholic stronghold. Scandinavian countries, Japan, China etc have far less crime rates than them.

SO SHUT THE DUCK UP AND THANK ANY ATHEIST YOU SEE

MaxInDHouse:
But we will be and continue to relate with peace lovers!

Look at my statement, then look at your reply. Are they related?
Do they syphon brains in those Kingdom Halls of yours?

MaxInDHouse:
Come on shut up there!
The guy quoted me several times that's why i mentioned him too so face front!

He's called you a fraud. Rest nah

MaxInDHouse:
Wèrè!
Are you the one i mentioned?

He has already told you to take a hike. So stop disturbing us with child mol@sters, rapists and gays

MaxInDHouse:
What exactly are you trying to say because the thread is against peace loving worshipers!

As much as you lot don't wanna face the reality, the truth is everyone cant be peaceful. In driving they teach defensive driving because they know everyone can't be sane and careful. Thus they tell you assume everyone is crazy and drive defensively.
There must always be bloodthirsty folks, no matter how you teach people. Even in your midst of 'god's people', there are child mol@sters, gays etc. Thus not all of you guys have 'Yahweh character' or godly. Las las you cant control everyone. This is a fact y'all JW refuse to put into your thick stupid skulls. As much as you and I want peace, you won't always get it. Its human behavior to try and dominate the others


The debate isn't about firearms ownership. Its about you saying people don't just attack others. So don't deflect.
Armed robbers attack you. Same as law enforcements.
As a country made up of JWs don't you think u need to thank non JWs for saving your ignorant black ass from annihilation?