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Christianity Etc › Re: Question For JW And Other Pacifist Organizations by jaephoenix(op): 3:08pm On Sep 13, 2023
Aemmyjah:
With your stupid assumptions that comes from your head?
Even a fool knows that JWs have nothing to do with the governance or political affairs of a nation
Stupid imagination
Even a raving mad man knows what an assumption means. If a country is made up of 99% JW, what is the odds that the governance would be a non JW?
Use the remainder of your brain to argue with me.
Christianity Etc › Re: Question For JW And Other Pacifist Organizations by jaephoenix(op): 3:04pm On Sep 13, 2023
MaxInDHouse:
So now that you've heard of the highlighted is that enough reason to own your personal gun so as to DEFEND yourself? cheesy
The debate isn't about firearms ownership. Its about you saying people don't just attack others. So don't deflect.
Armed robbers attack you. Same as law enforcements.
As a country made up of JWs don't you think u need to thank non JWs for saving your ignorant black ass from annihilation?
Christianity Etc › Re: Question For JW And Other Pacifist Organizations by jaephoenix(op): 3:02pm On Sep 13, 2023
MaxInDHouse:
The highlighted is what i've been telling you all these while!

So it's based on AGREEMENT that people live in peace not due to possession of weapons or training for war.
Thank you! smiley
And youve not seen where countries break agreements? I dont know if you are naive or just plain stupid
Christianity Etc › Re: I Need Help To Understand These Conflicting Bible Verses. by jaephoenix(m): 2:59pm On Sep 13, 2023
SIRTee15:
Show me where a bible author said he was writing from God verbatim.
So where Paul said this are his own words and not the Lord....is that word of God too?
Go and learn about word of God, rhema and logos.
Then u can come back here to discuss what is the scripture.
Obviously you haven't taken time to read your Bible. But that is all common theme amongst theists. They rant and rave about their books but haven’t taken out time to read them.
So I'll indulge you one more time. So here goes….


These are the most relevant verses

Exodus 20:22
Verse Concepts
Then the Lord said to Moses, “Thus you shall say to the sons of Israel, ‘You yourselves have seen that I have spoken to you from heaven.
Deuteronomy 4:36
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Out of the heavens He let you hear His voice to discipline you; and on earth He let you see His great fire, and you heard His words from the midst of the fire.
Nehemiah 9:13
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“Then You came down on Mount Sinai,And spoke with them from heaven;You gave them just ordinances and true laws,Good statutes and commandments.
Psalm 76:8
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You caused judgment to be heard from heaven;The earth feared and was still
Daniel 4:31
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While the word was in the king’s mouth, a voice came from heaven, saying, ‘King Nebuchadnezzar, to you it is declared: sovereignty has been removed from you,
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Mark 1:11
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and a voice came out of the heavens: “You are My beloved Son, in You I am well-pleased.”
Luke 3:22
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and the Holy Spirit descended upon Him in bodily form like a dove, and a voice came out of heaven, “You are My beloved Son, in You I am well-pleased.”
John 12:28
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Father, glorify Your name.” Then a voice came out of heaven: “I have both glorified it, and will glorify it again.”
2 Peter 1:18
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and we ourselves heard this utterance made from heaven when we were with Him on the holy mountain.
Revelation 14:2
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And I heard a voice from heaven, like the sound of many waters and like the sound of loud thunder, and the voice which I heard was like the sound of harpists playing on their harps.
Revelation 12:10
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Then I heard a loud voice in heaven, saying,“Now the salvation, and the power, and the kingdom of our God and the authority of His Christ have come, for the accuser of our brethren has been thrown down, he who accuses them before our God day and night.
Acts 11:9
Verse Concepts
But a voice from heaven answered a second time, ‘What God has cleansed, no longer consider unholy.’
Revelation 11:12
Verse Concepts
And they heard a loud voice from heaven saying to them, “Come up here.” Then they went up into heaven in the cloud, and their enemies watched them.
Revelation 18:4
Verse Concepts
I heard another voice from heaven, saying, “Come out of her, my people, so that you will not participate in her sins and receive of her plagues;
Revelation 14:13
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And I heard a voice from heaven, saying, “Write, ‘Blessed are the dead who die in the Lord from now on!’” “Yes,” says the Spirit, “so that they may rest from their labors, for their deeds follow with them.”
Revelation 11:15
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Then the seventh angel sounded; and there were loud voices in heaven, saying,“The kingdom of the world has become the kingdom of our Lord and of His Christ; and He will reign forever and ever.”
Genesis 21:17
Verse Concepts
God heard the lad crying; and the angel of God called to Hagar from heaven and said to her, “What is the matter with you, Hagar? Do not fear, for God has heard the voice of the lad where he is.
Genesis 22:11
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But the angel of the Lord called to him from heaven and said, “Abraham, Abraham!” And he said, “Here I am.”
Genesis 22:15
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Then the angel of the Lord called to Abraham a second time from heaven,

Genesis 1:3
Verse Concepts
Then God said, “Let there be light”; and there was light.
Genesis 1:6
Verse Concepts
Then God said, “Let there be an expanse in the midst of the waters, and let it separate the waters from the waters.”
Genesis 1:9
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Then God said, “Let the waters below the heavens be gathered into one place, and let the dry land appear”; and it was so.
Genesis 1:11
Verse Concepts
Then God said, “Let the earth sprout vegetation, plants yielding seed, and fruit trees on the earth bearing fruit after their kind with seed in them”; and it was so.
Genesis 1:14
Verse Concepts
Then God said, “Let there be lights in the expanse of the heavens to separate the day from the night, and let them be for signs and for seasons and for days and years;
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Genesis 1:20
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Then God said, “Let the waters teem with swarms of living creatures, and let birds fly above the earth in the open expanse of the heavens.”
Genesis 1:24
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Then God said, “Let the earth bring forth living creatures after their kind: cattle and creeping things and beasts of the earth after their kind”; and it was so.
Genesis 1:26
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Then God said, “Let Us make man in Our image, according to Our likeness; and let them rule over the fish of the sea and over the birds of the sky and over the cattle and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creeps on the earth.”
Psalm 50:1
Verse Concepts
A Psalm of Asaph.The Mighty One, God, the Lord, has spoken,And summoned the earth from the rising of the sun to its setting.
Ezekiel 12:25
Verse Concepts
For I the Lord will speak, and whatever word I speak will be performed. It will no longer be delayed, for in your days, O rebellious house, I will speak the word and perform it,” declares the Lord God.’”
Exodus 20:22
Verse Concepts
Then the Lord said to Moses, “Thus you shall say to the sons of Israel, ‘You yourselves have seen that I have spoken to you from heaven.
Genesis 8:15
Verse Concepts
Then God spoke to Noah, saying,
Genesis 9:8
Verse Concepts
Then God spoke to Noah and to his sons with him, saying,
Exodus 33:9
Verse Concepts
Whenever Moses entered the tent, the pillar of cloud would descend and stand at the entrance of the tent; and the Lord would speak with Moses.
Exodus 33:11
Verse Concepts
Thus the Lord used to speak to Moses face to face, just as a man speaks to his friend. When Moses returned to the camp, his servant Joshua, the son of Nun, a young man, would not depart from the tent.
John 9:29
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We know that God has spoken to Moses, but as for this man, we do not know where He is from.”
Exodus 29:42
Verse Concepts
It shall be a continual burnt offering throughout your generations at the doorway of the tent of meeting before the Lord, where I will meet with you, to speak to you there.
Exodus 25:22
Verse Concepts
There I will meet with you; and from above the mercy seat, from between the two cherubim which are upon the ark of the testimony, I will speak to you about all that I will give you in commandment for the sons of Israel.
Psalm 99:7
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He spoke to them in the pillar of cloud;They kept His testimoniesAnd the statute that He gave them.
Psalm 107:25
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For He spoke and raised up a stormy wind,Which lifted up the waves of the sea.
Ezekiel 2:2
Verse Concepts
As He spoke to me the Spirit entered me and set me on my feet; and I heard Him speaking to me.
Ezekiel 3:22
Verse Concepts
The hand of the Lord was on me there, and He said to me, “Get up, go out to the plain, and there I will speak to you.”
Ezekiel 2:1
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Then He said to me, “Son of man, stand on your feet that I may speak with you!”
Job 6:10
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“But it is still my consolation,And I rejoice in unsparing pain,That I have not denied the words of the Holy One.
Job 11:5
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“But would that God might speak,And open His lips against you,
Hosea 12:4
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Yes, he wrestled with the angel and prevailed;He wept and sought His favor.He found Him at BethelAnd there He spoke with us,
Joel 2:11
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The Lord utters His voice before His army;Surely His camp is very great,For strong is he who carries out His word.The day of the Lord is indeed great and very awesome,And who can endure it?
Joel 3:16
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The Lord roars from ZionAnd utters His voice from Jerusalem,And the heavens and the earth tremble.But the Lord is a refuge for His peopleAnd a stronghold to the sons of Israel.
Amos 3:8
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A lion has roared! Who will not fear?The Lord God has spoken! Who can but prophesy?
Amos 1:2
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He said,“The Lord roars from ZionAnd from Jerusalem He utters His voice;And the shepherds’ pasture grounds mourn,And the summit of Carmel dries up.”
Hebrews 1:2
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in these last days has spoken to us in His Son, whom He appointed heir of all things, through whom also He made the world.
Zechariah 7:13
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And just as He called and they would not listen, so they called and I would not listen,” says the Lord of hosts;
Job 33:14-16
“Indeed God speaks once,Or twice, yet no one notices it.“In a dream, a vision of the night,When sound sleep falls on men,While they slumber in their beds,Then He opens the ears of men,And seals their instruction,
Exodus 20:19
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Then they said to Moses, “Speak to us yourself and we will listen; but let not God speak to us, or we will die.”
Genesis 35:13
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Then God went up from him in the place where He had spoken with him.
Christianity Etc › Re: I Need Help To Understand These Conflicting Bible Verses. by jaephoenix(m): 2:28pm On Sep 13, 2023
SIRTee15:
Focus on the resurrection story pls. This is what my post to u is about.
Not some conspiracy junks about early church history that's completely unfounded and lack any form of verifiable evidence- be it emperical or factual.

I don't have a problem debating early church history with u. In fact we will start with the first century AD where it all began.
I will bury u just like I did to your other wannabe atheist colleagues and some confused black jews. Checked my previous posts to see their grave yards.

But for now, pont out the contradictions in my explanation or the bible ressurection story.
Lol. This nigga. Obviously you haven't read this Bible cos if you did, you'd know its filled with bullshit.
One of the regular defenses chrissies put up when you confront them with the buybull is they say 'if you read the bible to look for errors, you'll find errors' and I'm like 'so you knew there were some mind-boggling cock-ups in that buybull but you still decide to base your whole life and still argue on it? '
Christianity Etc › Re: I Need Help To Understand These Conflicting Bible Verses. by jaephoenix(m): 2:23pm On Sep 13, 2023
SIRTee15:
I already defined to u what exactly is the word of God.
So I don't understand your point above.

THE WORD OF GOD IS THE MESSAGE not the letter.
U should learn the classification of exegesis in the bible. Words are men in the bible are not expressive and not inspired.

The biblical writer never thought or said they were writing God’s words verbatim . Instead, they were writing what they knew, what they heard, what they experienced about God.

The hard copy bible is a collection of words about God, not a collection of God’s words to us.

The message in the hard copy bible is the word of God and this is what is inspired by the holy spirit. That is what should not be added or removed.
Wtf is this nigga on?!
The Bible is littered with verses where its literally clearly written "….. and thus sayeth the Lord… "
And many of those verses were instructions and punishments meted by the all so loving god.

Besides your bible also said in 2 Timothy 3:16-17 (New International Version)
16 All Scripture is God-breathed and is useful for teaching, rebuking, correcting and training in righteousness, 17 so that the servant of God[a] may be thoroughly equipped for every good work
Its clearly written there 'All' not some, or few but all
See dude, I suggest you actually sit down and read this your Bible once
Shalom kiss
Crime › Re: Calabar: Police Intervene As Man Loses Penis, Testicles After Handshake by jaephoenix(m): 11:13am On Sep 13, 2023
DaddyCoool:
See below
Yeah. Thats Koro. Said so earlier
Crime › Re: Calabar: Police Intervene As Man Loses Penis, Testicles After Handshake by jaephoenix(m): 11:01am On Sep 13, 2023
Timoleon:
just imagine even on this thread how many of them swear it’s true. Yet, not a single proof.
Thats Nigerians for you. Low IQ
Christianity Etc › Re: When God Deceives You... by jaephoenix(m): 9:30am On Sep 13, 2023
preciousee17:
Yes, I still stand on what I've said.
The only thing now is that you are bringing an interpretation for the word Temptation in the book of James, and I'm saying your interpretation is wrong.
I'm saying that temptations do not mean suffering, they are two different words.
Its not interpretations. Its what is written in your buybull
Christianity Etc › Re: When God Deceives You... by jaephoenix(m): 9:29am On Sep 13, 2023
preciousee17:
You know, there's something that someone said, I completed it.

If God actually exists, exactly as the Bible depicts.
Atheists can never make a valid argument without:
• Blaming God for the actions of man.
• Complaining to God for creating them.
• Trying to teach God how to behave, forgetting that God is more than a thousand times smarter and more complex than you are.

I always thought of this, every religion has a good and bad. God and the devil.
Every religion has Truth that they follow, and lies that their devil wants them to follow.

Atheists just assume that there's good and bad, (morally).
And they believe in science as their truth, but they fail to dig up the lies in science.
As atheists, you all should be the ones who dig the deepest into conspiracy theories, especially as it relates to science.

Go and dig up conspiracies for sometime. Your fellow atheists will prove to you that cancer and a whole bundle of famous serious diseases were never a mistake — all deliberate actions of man.

I believe my response to the other calm guy has any answer you need.
Keep on blaming God for actions of men.
Really? Cancers are caused by man?
Ever heard of teratomas, autoimmune diseases or idiopathic diseases?
What about congenital diseases like anencephaly( baby born with no head) or Tetralogy of Falot(what you guys call hole in the heart) are they man made too?
Lol. I know that theists especially christians lack thinking but I didn’t know they'll be this daft.
Christianity Etc › Re: The Book Of Bible Gaffes by jaephoenix(op): 9:23am On Sep 13, 2023
MaxInDHouse:
Guy this is not the stupidity you people call "ATHEISM"

Normal people with their thinking caps come together to reason and figure out the way they can cohabit peacefully then discovered that the understanding of few men surpasses what all others have so each of them now numbering millions resolved to go by the understanding of this few men doesn't translate to taking orders rather it's called AGREEMENT:

“This is what Jehovah of armies says, ‘In those days ten men out of all the languages of the nations will take hold, yes, they will take firm hold of the robe of a Jew, saying: “We want to go with you, for we have heard that God is with you people.”’” Zechariah 8:23

So if you now conclude that such a decision means taking orders that's shows the level of your IQ! wink
Oh really? Maybe you have forgotten(or don't know) the definition of taking orders because you didn't do kindergarten.
Lemme give you an example. If those misogynistic and racist men decide that today, no JW would attend hospitals, would you comply? Yes or no. Please I don't need too much grammar
Christianity Etc › Re: I Need Help To Understand These Conflicting Bible Verses. by jaephoenix(m): 2:15am On Sep 13, 2023
SIRTee15:
It's the message that's inspired not the book.
In christianity, there's a difference btw the book and the message. This is key.

No one ever said God dictated verbatim to the scribes or prophets.
The prophets filled with the holy spirit received the message. The prophets then write down what they receive within the limitation of human knowledge and capacity.


The holy spirit preserves the message not the book.

He has made us competent as ministers of a new covenant—not of the letter but of the Spirit; for the letter kills, but the Spirit gives life.
2 Corinthians 3.6


The word of God has no contradictions. If u looking contradictions on the letters, well they were written by imperfect men like yourself.
And that should tell u something about God.
In other words, you want to contradict what the bible said. Remember the bible said its the complete word of god. No one is to add or subtract or second guess it. If you do, ita death. Try and read this your Bible at least
Christianity Etc › Re: I Need Help To Understand These Conflicting Bible Verses. by jaephoenix(m): 2:13am On Sep 13, 2023
Dtruthspeaker:
Inspired to testify what they saw.
And the inspirator cannot inspire them uniformly knowing the book may confuse future generations?
Christianity Etc › Re: I Need Help To Understand These Conflicting Bible Verses. by jaephoenix(m): 2:11am On Sep 13, 2023
xproducer:
It appears to be a simple Transcription related matter.

1 KINGS 4:26—HOW CAN THIS VERSE SAY SOLOMON HAD 40,000 STALLS WHEN 2 CHRONICLES 9:25 SAYS HE HAD ONLY 4,000 STALLS?
PROBLEM: In recording the prosperity of Solomon, this passage states that he had 40,000 stalls of horses for his chariots. However, 1 Chronicles 9:25 affirms that Solomon had only 4,000 stalls for horses. Which one is right?

SOLUTION: This is undoubtedly a copyist error. The ratio of 4,000 horses to 1,400 chariots, as found in the 2 Chronicles passage, is much more reasonable than a ratio of 40,000 to 1,400 found in the 1 Kings text. In the Hebrew language, the visual difference between the two numbers is very slight. The consonants for the number 40 are rbym,? while the consonants for the number 4 are rbh (the vowels were not written in the text). The manuscripts from which the scribe worked may have been smudged or damaged and have given the appearance of being forty thousand rather than four thousand. - https://defendinginerrancy.com/bible-solutions/1_Kings_4.26.php
So was the Bible divinely inspired?
Christianity Etc › Re: The Book Of Bible Gaffes by jaephoenix(op): 2:08pm On Sep 12, 2023
MaxInDHouse:
NO!
That's the stupidity in atheism that you need to purge out of your system.
Someone agreeing to live by the same standard with his neighbour is not receiving orders but contributing to the peace and love agreed upon by all those involved! wink
The Governing Body of Jehovah's Witnesses is a male only group of leaders. Their names are, from left to right, front to back: Gerrit Lösch, Samuel Herd, David Splane, Mark Sanderson, Stephen Lett, Geoffrey Jackson, Anthony Morris, and Kenneth Cook.
The Governing Body of Jehovah's Witnesses is the ruling council of Jehovah's Witnesses, based in the denomination's Warwick, New York, headquarters. The body formulates doctrines , oversees the production of written material for publications and conventions, and administers the denomination's worldwide operations.


So in other words, they form the doctrines you use everyday. Illiterate, that's called taking orders. Fooool!
Christianity Etc › Re: When God Deceives You... by jaephoenix(m): 2:03pm On Sep 12, 2023
preciousee17:
Keep on ranting...
I'm not ranting. I'm echoing what you said. Lol
Christianity Etc › Re: When God Deceives You... by jaephoenix(m): 2:02pm On Sep 12, 2023
preciousee17:
Oh I see the point wink

But somehow, that place seems to be talking about Temptations, not Sufferings
Those are two different stuffs entirely...



For instance, in that illustration I gave, of John teaching at the club and was offered money when God already warned that he shouldn't collect.
That man offering the money was a temptation.

That scripture aims to say that God isn't the one who asked that man to offer John money, that God isn't the one who asked the man to tempt John with money.
But that temptations come someone is dragged off (by who?) and enticed according to what they desire.
John desired money and was enticed with money.
It was entirely non of God's handwork.

There's no reference to cause of suffering there, apart from the fact that when we are enticed and we sin, the sin eventually leads to death (verse 18 or so)
You quietly dodged his question grin
Christianity Etc › Re: When God Deceives You... by jaephoenix(m): 1:53pm On Sep 12, 2023
preciousee17:
Both.
I'll be tempted to say mostly from God, but the reality is that it's actually mostly from the devil.
For him, he's trying his best to make you disobey God and compromise.

Let me try and visualize.

God sends a person (John) to preach to the management of a club at closing hours and the Holy Spirit makes it clear that he shouldn't accept anything from them, like money or drink.
The devil goes ahead and creates a scheme , he reminds God of when John stole the 5k and tell God that because if this, he wants to make John to lose his money. So God approves this as part of the punishment for John's theft.

Now John loses his money in the bus while going to the club to preach and only has enough money to pay hos way coming.
John arrives and pays his fare, he now realizes that he is completely broke and helpless (just as that Lady was helpless when he stole her cash).
He doesn't remember all these, but he must teach

After teaching, the managers of the club may learn something good and decide to repent, then they offer John 1k for transport.
(Remember, he isn't meant to collect money from them. Why? Because that's dirty money. And he's also serving a punishment and must suffer sufficiently so that that sin he had committed can be forgotten.)

John will surely be tempted, the devil will say all sorts of stuff to make him accept.

But let's assume John didn't accept and ends up walking for about 6hrs to get back home.

That's a classic example of Baptism Of Fire. You're suffering because you chose to obey God.
In all that, you just served the punishment for the other sin you committed.

But how do you know that your suffering is making you worthy of the Kingdom Of God? Well, first thing is to clear yourself from sinful acts, live in God, live for God, walk in His light, then if anything happens, He'll let you understand why. Sooner or later.
Thought you said everything devil does is ordered by Yahweh.
Anyway, there's a plot twist: Yahweh knows all these would happen, but still allows it because he wants us to suffer
Christianity Etc › Re: When God Deceives You... by jaephoenix(m): 1:50pm On Sep 12, 2023
preciousee17:
A last reason (actually another interpretation of the above reasons) is Baptism Of Fire... This is the Christians POV
We must suffer to prove ourselves worthy of the Kingdom Of God.
Not like it's random suffering here and there. It's still more like reaping from the evil they committed when they were still sinners.
But this particular suffering just comes because you chose to follow Christ. Like people laughing at you and calling you virgin Mary (and as a sinner you had been laughing at people who wore torn shoes).
Or being hated at your job place because you tell the truth (and as a sinner, you had hated your class perfect because she always told the truth).
Or worse, being beaten for preaching (and as a sinner, you had lied against people and caused them to be beaten). Many examples

On the day of judgement, these are the little things that people will suffer for. But you'll be shocked to realize that you've already suffered yours while on Earth.

The last one I'll point out is inherited suffering.
That one is simple:

A child can inherit the father's wealth
A child can also inherit the father's debt.

A sinner can inherit blessings from the parents or the environment he/she finds him/herself.
A normal person can also inherit punishment from the parents or the environment he/she finds him/herself.
Being born again usually reduces the things we inherit, and yes, if you're setting things right with God, He'll show you the source of the problem and you can get rid of it. But the unbeliever won't even know.
So why do newborn babies have cancers etc?
Christianity Etc › Re: When God Deceives You... by jaephoenix(m): 1:46pm On Sep 12, 2023
preciousee17:
Alright, your response wasn't quite complete but let's carry on...




Now, from the whole analogy, you've seen that John must suffer, but who's happy in the process? Definitely not the Judge, but the lawyer. Only the lawyer is happy.

Now again, I never said bad things can't happen to good people, infact, if you check well, John wasn't particularly living a bad life when his case was brought back up... This happened many months later...
Most likely, John now had a good job and was living a normal life, but the sin he committed some months ago came back for him.
That's typically the concept of sowing and reaping. Many times we reap, just know that someone had sown a seed.
Remember this phrase, “The Long Arm Of Justice...” you can almost never outrun justice.

The devil doesn't fight for justice, no. His aim is to destroy people with punishment, God only allows punishment that you can bear. So John for instance may be locked up for years, that's his punishment.
If he comes out from prison with a hard heart, ready to cause some serious havoc, then the devil's plan is achieved. If he comes out from prison with a repentant heart, and a determination never to commit those sort of little crimes again, then God's plan is achieved.

But the aim is: Justice must be served. Every seed that was sown has to be reaped.

2. God doesn't use the devil to accomplish justice, rather it's the other way round... The devil uses the excuse of serving justice to actually gain permission to persecute people.
As I always say, whenever the devil doesn't, God as a Just Judge, will judge you and make you bear the consequences for your wrongs simply because He is Just.
And the people He loves the most (most likely good people) will suffer the most here on Earth.
Why? So that they will serve the punishments for all their sins before death, and on the Judgement Day, there'll be no sin that they'll need to be punished for again (since they've already suffered all the punishments here on Earth).
Meanwhile those who didn't suffer for their sins will start arranging to do that on the Day of Judgement...

The more I type, the more I feel like I've not said enough.
My explanations are not the final say, there are other correct points of views, but everything I say is Biblical and you can request for prove wherever you disagree.

Another nice and simple reason why good people suffer is simply Mistakes, they make mistakes that have consequences.
What do I deduce from this?
1. The devil is just. He seeks justice for the old woman inadvertently murdered by John
2. Yahweh works for the devil. You said that yourself
Christianity Etc › Re: When God Deceives You... by jaephoenix(m): 1:43pm On Sep 12, 2023
preciousee17:
Approval... How do I put it?
Before any bad thing (caused by the Devil) happens for instance, the Devil presents what he wants to do and why he wants to do it to God. And God analyzes the petition and gives the devil permission to carry out his request, according to what the victim deserves.
So las las na Yahweh dey do all the bad bad things? Interesting
Christianity Etc › Re: When God Deceives You... by jaephoenix(m): 1:40pm On Sep 12, 2023
preciousee17:
Devil has his own motives. But whenever God commands... Whenever God's Will needs to be done, even the devil obeys.
But the Devil being a full-time servant of God? No.
So the devil is a part-time servant for Yahweh? Interesting
Christianity Etc › Re: When God Deceives You... by jaephoenix(m): 1:40pm On Sep 12, 2023
preciousee17:
Oh yes. He Himself might even punish you if the devil doesn't, infact, He usually punishes the ones He loves more thoroughly wink
And he ignores the ones he hates?
Christianity Etc › Re: When God Deceives You... by jaephoenix(m): 1:39pm On Sep 12, 2023
Michael547:
So are you saying that evil that happens to good people comes from God too?
Isaiah 45
[6] That they may know from the rising of the sun, and from the west, that there is none beside me. I am the LORD, and there is none else.
[7] I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil:
I the LORD do all these things.
Christianity Etc › Re: When God Deceives You... by jaephoenix(m): 1:38pm On Sep 12, 2023
Michael547:
So are you saying that evil that happens to good people comes from God too?
Isaiah 45 [6] That they may know from the rising of the sun, and from the west, that there is none beside me. [b]I am the LORD, and there is none else.
[7] I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil: [/b]I the LORD do all these things.
Crime › Re: Calabar: Police Intervene As Man Loses Penis, Testicles After Handshake by jaephoenix(m): 1:28am On Sep 12, 2023
talented321:
Are u okay this morning?.. if u are serious come to delta asaba and have the pictures..
I have seen a man pocket somebody penis inside sack bag...
The one that reduce one time they know theirselves quickly.. While the one that reduce from 5ins to 3ins they don't realize quickly... Smh... Indomie&akamu and weed...
I believe you have a phone with camera. What stops you from taking pics and video, instead of telling someone to travel all the way to Asaba to see bullshit.
SMH angry
Crime › Re: Calabar: Police Intervene As Man Loses Penis, Testicles After Handshake by jaephoenix(m): 1:25am On Sep 12, 2023
gistray:
Always among poor people.


Why can't the JuJu man command the testicles to appear in his room and avoid getting caught like this?

That man had a medical condition that made his balls vanish and now he's used innocent someone as scapegoat
Its called Koro syndrome. They need a psychiatrist
Crime › Re: Calabar: Police Intervene As Man Loses Penis, Testicles After Handshake by jaephoenix(m): 1:23am On Sep 12, 2023
chokekachy:
https://crossriverwatch.com/2023/09/breaking-police-intervene-as-man-loses-penis-testicles-in-calabar/
As a youth corper in General Hospital, Kutigi, Lavun LGA, Niger state, police guys arrested a dicck stealing 'perp' and brought the 'victim' for me to certify him dickless and issue a medical certificate. I said in my young atheistic mind lemme see if this shit is real. Lo and behold, I saw a dick way healthier and longer than mine. I was angry at the popo cretards and wrote in no uncertain terms about the good condition of the dicck.
Its unfortunate the average Nigerian IQ is way below par. If any of these people could think, they would have asked themselves why we don't see pics of these dicckless pubises. But instead all we hear are stories. It may also be Koro syndrome but then would those idiots believe that they are mentally ill?
Career › Re: From Nigeria To Europe – My PLAB Experience by jaephoenix(m): 6:43pm On Sep 11, 2023
qanda:
This write up is a guide for Nigerian Medical Practitioners who want to continue their practice in the UK.

Upon graduation from Medical School, I was eager to contribute my quota to the Nigerian health sector. Few months in practice, my hunger to serve Nigerians was replaced by another type of hunger; the hunger to continue my medical practice abroad, this was after experiencing over 9 months nonpayment of salary, governments lack of commitment to the health sector and the outdated equipment available to majority of Nigerian doctors. I developed a global mindset of pursuing personal development and contributing to the global health sector - the world is now a global village.

I searched the internet about the available options and learnt about PLAB, a two-part assessment exam that international medical graduates from outside the European Economic area and Switzerland are required to pass before they can legally practice medicine in the UK. The exam is conducted by the General Medical Council of the United Kingdom.

Passing the IELTS exam is a prerequisite to writing the PLAB exam. IELTS is a test of English Language proficiency. It is designed to assess the language ability of non-native speakers who intend to study or work in the UK. The IELTS requirement for PLAB is a band score of 7.5 (not less than 7 in each of the exam modules – writing, speaking, listening and reading). To prepare for IELTS, I used materials from IELTS online, IELTS buddy, IELTS Cambridge. IELTS Cambridge materials are available on the video section of Q and A App.

After passing my IELTS exam, I registered a General Medical Council (GMC) account on the GMC website to secure a reference number. After securing a reference number, I registered for the PLAB 1 exam. In Nigeria, the PLAB 1 exam is written in March and November in five cities including Abuja, Enugu and Lagos. The pass rate (cut of mark) for the exam is dependent on the average performance on the day you sit for the exams.

After passing the PLAB 1 exams, I registered for the PLAB 2 exams in Manchester. It is a bit tasking to secure a VISA for this exam especially if you do not have a sponsor, but its not impossible. Drawing from my experience, you’d need to maintain a healthy bank account over a 6 – 7 months period. A healthy account means that you receive a regular monthly payment in your account from a legit source, one you can explain and maintain a minimum balance of NGN800,000. The account should have minimum withdrawals.

I did not subscribe to the services of any agent to process my VISA, it was when I got to Manchester I discovered that a majority of the other participants from Nigeria secured their VISA with the service or guidance of an agent. Whether to use an agent or go about obtaining the Visa yourself is a choice.

The PLAB 2 exam is quite costly and should be well planned. There are a number of tutors for the PLAB 2 exams, they include Samson, Swamy, Hammed….. I understand that Samson now has presence in Lagos, Nigeria. This is a good development for Nigerian doctors, you can save a reasonable amount of money on accommodation by enrolling with samson in Nigeria as against traveling to Manchester – you will eventually need to travel to Manchester to sit for the exams. Note that the PLAB 2 test is not a written exam. It is a practical exam that tests for your listening skills and how you empathize with patients. Again, the pass rate is determined by the average performance of the participants.

To give you an idea of the cost of the exams, note that this is a guide as at the time I wrote my exams (2018-2019).
IELTS – NGN 75,000
PLAB 1 – NGN 196,000
PLAB 2 – NGN 395,000
Visa fees – NGN 120,000 for priority, NGN45,000 for Regular.
Flight ticket - this depends on your choice of airline and vary from time to time.
Accommodation in Manchester, I spent about NGN255,000 (one month period)

The materials I used in preparing for the exams would be available on Q and A App. I will also share how I secured employment on my Q and A App account. I encourage you to install the App from Google Playstore. If you have any questions for me, use the comment section.
I recently passed my IELTS, do you have an idea of the current PLAB 1 fees
Christianity Etc › Re: Question For JW And Other Pacifist Organizations by jaephoenix(op): 4:20pm On Sep 11, 2023
MaxInDHouse:
You know when kids thinks they're intelligent their inexperience will prove them wrong.

He feels carrying weapons or fighting is what protects people but he has forgotten that the policeman and soldier in his neighbourhood has the weapon yet none of them can order him to empty his pocket when there is orderliness so to him Jehovah's Witnesses who are working tirelessly to achieve orderliness using the power of reasoning are wrong! grin
This is an example of a madman
Haven’t you heard or seen armed policemen order people to give them money or withdraw from ATM? Your madness is legendary
Christianity Etc › Re: Question For JW And Other Pacifist Organizations by jaephoenix(op): 4:19pm On Sep 11, 2023
Aemmyjah:
Nonsense
I don't even know which fallacy to categorize your silly story
How is it fallacy? Do you even know the definition of a fallacy, this illiterate wink
Christianity Etc › Re: Question For JW And Other Pacifist Organizations by jaephoenix(op): 4:18pm On Sep 11, 2023
MaxInDHouse:
Just calm down and have a rethink you will realize that it's not weapon carriers that are ruling rather the weapon carriers are used like instruments in the hands of motivational speakers who were voted/selected among the people.
So use your brain.
If JWs say "let's settle matters amicably without resorting to military action" know that it's the only way forward.
Ukrainians have weapons and their people were trained but that doesn't stop Russians from taking over their territory.

There's a West African country called Gambia it was cut out of a West African country called Senegal, go and check the West African map then come back and tell me if it's weapons that's keeping Senegalese from squashing Gambia!smiley
Senegal is deterred by agreements with Gambia. And they know Gambia has agreement with other top countries. So if they step foot into Gambia, the retaliation would be horrible.
Ask yourself if Ukraine was made largely of JW crazies if the country would still be standing til date. Russia banned JW cos if you guys continue infesting other citizens with your virus, their army would reduce, and thus military might

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