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Christianity EtcRe: Cluster Here Let's Discuss About Dreams by jaephoenix(m): 11:24am On Aug 31, 2023
FRANCISTOWN:
I didn't just manufacture this from thin air. I read to this extent.

"In the 19s, a Professor at Duke University, Dr. Banks lead a research. And thru that research it was discovered that every human on earth has something called the 6th sense otherwise known as "extra sensory" mode of perception."


Well, that was according to a scientific research which was carried out by a group of researchers lead by Professor Banks of Duke University in the 19s , as reported and authored by E. Lt. Wright in Harpers Magazine.

I read about that some fifteen years ago.

You've not lead any research on the topic, so, I guess it's more appropriate to balance your views.

My explanation addressed the reason some dreams, prophecies and visions come to pass and how it has nothing to do with spiritualism or spiritism.

We can't deny that some predictions do come to pass(even in bettings such as lotto, and pool, etc). We should be able to explain that logically.


My final submission stated clearly that dreams, visions, clairvoyance and telepathy are mere predictions and should not be taken seriously by any serious person.

I even used Nostradamus, one of the fathers of predictions as a perfect example, so, I guess you didn't understand what I was trying to say or maybe I wasn't clear enough
Some predictions do come through of course. If not, how would people win Naijabet. But they are predictions based on experiences and data from previous matches, leading to one to make a logical conclusion. And of course, they can fail since matches throw up unexpected results leading to loss of bets. Can you say your predictions are always correct? No. Can one base his or her betting on your predictions? No. That is how the law of averages work. You win some, you lose some.
About the sixth sense research, it hasn't been scientifically proven. Its speculation and theory but wasn't proven.
This is what I gathered from LiveScience,
The new study, detailed Monday (Jan. 13) in the journal PLOS ONE, found that what people perceive as a sixth sense may simply be their vision systems detecting changes they can't articulate.

"People can sense things that they believe they cannot see," such as changes in a person's appearance, said study co-author Piers Howe, a vision scientist at the University of Melbourne in Australia. "But this isn't anything magical or a sixth sense; this can be explained in terms of known visual processing."

https://www.livescience.com/42635-esp-sixth-sense-just-vision.html
Christianity EtcRe: Cluster Here Let's Discuss About Dreams by jaephoenix(m): 11:16am On Aug 31, 2023
Dtruthspeaker:
That is just bullshit. Your machines are only reading the physical responses going on in a person and that is all they are doing. It is only the person who can explain his experience. And ofcourse there are dreams and there are dreams.
So what 'machines' are you using? And how do you calibrate and use them?
Christianity EtcRe: Cluster Here Let's Discuss About Dreams by jaephoenix(m): 10:33pm On Aug 30, 2023
FRANCISTOWN:
This is what I honestly think about dream.

In the 19s, a Professor at Duke University, Dr. Banks did a research. And thru that research it was discovered that every human on earth has something called the 6th sense otherwise known as "extra sensory" mode of perception.

To be put simply, let's call it instinct.

The research resolved that this 6th sense is located somewhere at the centre of the human brain, but no one has been able to state exactly where it is, or what it is. Stay with me.

So basically what does this "extra sensory". It's responsible for clairvoyance and telepathy.

That's why some people leave a certain place before bad things occur and when you ask them, they'll say they just felt like or their mind spoke to them.

Gamblers also use this 6th sense in card selection and in reading their opponents' mind.

However, just like some people have very sharp taste bud or very good eyesight. This sixth sense is also very active in some people as opposed to others.

Let's make this point 1.
Its gut feeling, and gut feeling can be wrong too. Many times . Aint nothing like 'sixth sense'(its an psedoscientific term). The gamblers instinct also fails them woefully. And this has nothing to do with people with sharp taste buds also known as hypergustatory folks. In this case, their brains which is used for tasting processes tastes better. Same as people that have good vision
Christianity EtcRe: Cluster Here Let's Discuss About Dreams by jaephoenix(m): 10:29pm On Aug 30, 2023
Image123:
Lolz, tell this joke and fable to Joseph, Pharaoh, Daniel and Nebuchadnezzar. After that, discuss it with Joseph the husband of Mary. Ignorance on a raised power.
How about talking to Spiderman and Thor. They may have an idea about dreams
Christianity EtcRe: Cluster Here Let's Discuss About Dreams by jaephoenix(m): 9:46pm On Aug 30, 2023
Dtruthspeaker:
Yet when they touch you for dream you jerk like person wet electricity shock. And for some dem dey throw blow for air as dem dey sleep.

Anyway, you be liar before so I no expect say your talk to dey completely True.
It's all part of the dream complex. Some prefrontal cortex which controls those part of the dream assumes they are real and activate the corticospinal tracts.
I have told you to stay away from scientific and philosophical discourses. You just don't have the mental capacities for them
Christianity EtcRe: Cluster Here Let's Discuss About Dreams by jaephoenix(m): 9:42pm On Aug 30, 2023
FRANCISTOWN:
There is a branch of philosophy that supports something called "Hard Determinism", though several philosophers are against it.

That's basically "Cause and Effect".

Simply put, it means every event in this world must have had a cause. For instance, I'm in this thread because you mentioned me, you mentioned me because you crested a thread, you were able to create a thread because there is NL, there is NL because there is the internet.

Now when NL was hosted online several years ago, that "cause" already had this "effect"(me commenting on this thread) in it, that same year.

To every action there is a predetermined/expected effect.(Law of Natural consequences)

Let's make this point 2.
Dreams occur from our brain. Its a connection of synapses between the prefrontal cortex, hypothalamus, hippocampus and probably the limbic system. They utilize our memory and conjur stuff. For example, you watched horror movies. Your prefrontal which handles memory with influence from other centers, serve up a horror themed dream which seemed real. Now if you're someone that don't believe that stuff that happen in horror movies are real(like me), watching such movies won't throw up horrible nightmares since my subconscious mind tells my cortex that they aren't real. And thus I dont have nightmares. My wife would watch the same horror flick and have nightmares.
Dreams coming true sometimes may be a phenomenon known as deja vu.
Also don't ignore chances of luck or coincidences happening
Christianity EtcRe: LGBTQ+ Church Gets Completely Burnt Down By Lightning Strike (Photos And Video) by jaephoenix(m): 8:26pm On Aug 30, 2023
jesusjnr2020:
LGBTQ+ Church Gets Completely Burnt Down By Lightning Strike (Photos And Video)

Could this be a mere coincidence or another stark reminder of Sodom and Gomorrah?

Video:

https://youtube.com/shorts/V4bRSQqv5p4?si=pQ51o85gp0iIsZE8

https://www.snopes.com/news/2023/06/07/church-lightning-burn-lgbtq/

https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2023/jun/3/160-year-old-church-280-year-old-massachusetts-con/
Lies. No such thing happened.
https://apnews.com/article/fact-check-church-fire-massachusetts-lgbt-wedding-lightning-938759169005

Also I guess churches that got struck by lightning like this one…
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.fox5atlanta.com/news/lightning-strikes-jonesboro-iglesia-de-dios-church-severe-storm.amp

… were conducting gay marriages too grin

One thing I realize about Christianity and theism at large is the paradoxical tendency to propagate their religion via lies. From the lies in the Bible, to the even that happened in Brazil etc. The Brazilian lie was so obvious but it still didn't stop the cretarded Christians from touting the incident as Yahweh's wrath.
Why should a religion that abhors lies spread itself through lies? Can someone answer? undecided
Christianity EtcRe: The Book Of Bible Gaffes by jaephoenix(op): 3:05pm On Aug 30, 2023
johnw47:
oh duh, dum atheist dope

i sometimes post to false jw's and you atheists to show up the lies, like i have said many times



Ecc_7:6  For as the crackling of thorn bushes under a pot, So is the laughter of the fool


gee you so dum, aren't you

as i already said blinded dum dum: to prove and strengthen his faith:

2 Corinthians 4:4
In whom the god of this world hath blinded the minds of them which believe not, lest the light of the glorious gospel of Christ, who is the image of God, should shine unto them


see how you atheist dopes and false jw's have things in common:

dumbness and denying Almighty Jehovah
Lol. You won't engage me but you'll engage your fellow dumb JW theists. You know you'll run outta Nairaland if you try me. You just don't have that mental capacity.
Anyway, ciao.
Christianity EtcRe: The Book Of Bible Gaffes by jaephoenix(op): 3:03pm On Aug 30, 2023
MaxInDHouse:
So you pick what you want to believe in the Bible while i too pick mine no wahala! cheesy
Lol. And you keep on reinforcing the believe that your own buybull(not mine) is indeed filled with gaffes. Cutting off your nose to spite your face.
Lol. JWs are [b]Max[/b]imally dumb
Christianity EtcRe: The Book Of Bible Gaffes by jaephoenix(op): 10:44am On Aug 30, 2023
johnw47:
Gen 18:20  And the LORD said, "The outcry of Sodom and Gomorrah is indeed great, and their sin is exceedingly grave. 
Gen 18:21  "I will go down now, and see if they have done entirely according to its outcry, which has come to Me; and if not, I will know." 

Gen 22:12  He said, "Do not stretch out your hand against the lad, and do nothing to him; for now I know that you fear God, since you have not withheld your son, your only son, from Me."



Jehovah of course knew that the sin against sodom and gomorrah was exceedingly grave, He said so before hand, and wanted to see first hand Himself before destroying them

Jehovah of course knew before hand that abraham was God fearing and would even sacrifice his son if Jehovah said to,
Jehovah tested abraham to prove and strenghen his faith, it was for abraham's benefit not because Jehovah didn't know


but you false jw's believe Jehovah doesn't know things before hand, and you false jw don't believe Almighty Jehovah is all mighty etc. etc.

you so called Jehovah's witnesses are the great, Jehovah deniers
imagine a so called Jehovah's witness teaching that Jehovah is not all knowing, is not all powerful, what followers of the devil you are:

Joh 8:44 You are of your father the devil, and you want to do the desires of your father. He was a murderer from the beginning, and does not stand in the truth because there is no truth in him. Whenever he speaks a lie, that is his natural way of speaking, for he is a liar and the father of lies.
I thought u said you won't engage JWs or atheists? What happened?
Now you have jumped in and yarned complete rubbish. So the trial of Abraham killing his son is for Abraham's benefit? How? Lol! grin
Christianity EtcRe: The Book Of Bible Gaffes by jaephoenix(op): 10:42am On Aug 30, 2023
Aemmyjah:
Sometimes when you give them an answer, that is when their brain stop comprehending what they read
Obviously you just jumped in, dummy. Read this thread from the beginning. Its about how the buybull is crappy, and you guys just shot yourself in the foot by reiterating the fact, that its indeed crappy grin
Christianity EtcRe: The Book Of Bible Gaffes by jaephoenix(op): 10:40am On Aug 30, 2023
MaxInDHouse:
How many times do i have to quote Him?

OK i will do it again so as to show you your folly!

Then Jehovah said: “The outcry against Sodʹom and Go·morʹrah is indeed great, and their sin is very heavy. I will go down to see whether they are acting according to the outcry that has reached me. And if not, I can get to know it." Genesis 18:20-21

“Do not harm the boy, and do not do anything at all to him, for now I do know that you are God-fearing because you have not withheld your son, your only one, from me.” Genesis 22:12

Now use your brain to reason well if your Omni stuff fit in to the description of the one speaking in those verses! smiley
Lol. The joke's on you.
If you read through my first post, I posted all these same verses you quoted, describing how the Buybull is contradictory. The same buybull said Yahweh is all knowing, didn't it? Abi you cherrypick the ones wey u go take?
Lol! These JWs are dumber than wet stones grin
Christianity EtcRe: The Book Of Bible Gaffes by jaephoenix(op): 12:10pm On Aug 29, 2023
cornelboy:
Lol was this my last comment to your last post?

Seems you woke up at the wrong side of the bed today. Open your eyes and check my last comment.
Your last comment was 'perfect'. Thats a phrase that doesn't convey any meaning
Christianity EtcRe: The Book Of Bible Gaffes by jaephoenix(op): 12:09pm On Aug 29, 2023
MaxInDHouse:
Did God Himself said these things or his servants?

That's what you're missing because the all knowing/loving/powerful is within what they know not what God said about Himself.

I have quoted what God Himself said but you keep dodging the fact so continue crying for all i care! wink
Please quote what Yahweh said
Christianity EtcRe: Pakistan Christians Worshipping God In Churches Destroyed By Extremists(Videos) by jaephoenix(m): 9:45am On Aug 29, 2023
Uncletony:
Am not talking about Christianity either.
So what exactly are you saying
Christianity EtcRe: What God Cannot Do by jaephoenix(op): 9:44am On Aug 29, 2023
MightySparrow:
https://youtube.com/shorts/m--GepObxPs?feature=share

A testimony of over 50years. The evidence is life. Same is mine.
So personal testimony without proof is evidence?
Christianity EtcRe: The Book Of Bible Gaffes by jaephoenix(op): 9:41am On Aug 29, 2023
MaxInDHouse:
Omni stuffs doesn't appear in the Bible so it's your pastors that infused such applications in your brains and now that you've come to face reality you're dodging the fact that it doesn't appear in any Bible! wink
I ask again. Did you skip kindergarten?
Christianity EtcRe: The Book Of Bible Gaffes by jaephoenix(op): 9:27am On Aug 29, 2023
MaxInDHouse:
You're just stupid but forming intelligent! cheesy

When it comes to dictionaries different religionists come together so whatever they can't agree upon will not be included.

That's why they are able agree on your Omni stuff even though it doesn't appear in any religious book! wink
Actually, omni as a word isn't in the Bible. Whats in the bible is all knowing/loving/powerful.
So lemme ask, did you learn synonyms in kindergarten. Or were you in your Kingdom Hall when it was being taught?
Christianity EtcRe: The Book Of Bible Gaffes by jaephoenix(op): 9:25am On Aug 29, 2023
MaxInDHouse:
Ọmọ quote Omni stuff word for word in the Bible! smiley
Right. Lemme repeat myself.
Is Yahweh/Jehovah all loving?
Christianity EtcRe: The Book Of Bible Gaffes by jaephoenix(op): 9:23am On Aug 29, 2023
cornelboy:
After I said perfect, you still asked me that 🙂
Don't make it sound as if you're lecturing me.
Do you understand that your ways doesn't include the future?

Fast forward to the main question abeg
Did you read my last post, or you just love repeating what's inside your brain, like a robot?
Christianity EtcRe: Pakistan Christians Worshipping God In Churches Destroyed By Extremists(Videos) by jaephoenix(m): 12:40pm On Aug 27, 2023
Uncletony:
America na useless country, if na Saudi get the kind power weh they get, everyone for don turn Muslim!
The US aint a Christian country
Christianity EtcRe: The Book Of Bible Gaffes by jaephoenix(op): 11:04am On Aug 27, 2023
cornelboy:
I don't have any problem with English.
The problem is your trying hard to force your interpretation on the Bible.

Your ways can only include the present not the future that hasn't happened yet. Your ways could only affect the future. But you don't live in the future.
Of course God could see your intentions at any time but he can't control them. Your intentions are clearly yours and decided by you.

If you think this is about English, please show me where English says someone's ways includes his future that hasn't happened yet.
There are multiple examples where dictionaries and thesauruses interprete ways direction, future etc. But then your deluded buddy MadMax said its 'religionists' that wrote them, so they don't count grin
Christianity EtcRe: Pakistan Christians Worshipping God In Churches Destroyed By Extremists(Videos) by jaephoenix(m): 10:06am On Aug 27, 2023
Abuventure:
you are not a Christian if you are then you are misinformed
So if I'm a Christian and I know the history of religion(and all the ills of Christianity), then I'm misinformed?
Lol. You guys are comedians
Christianity EtcRe: The Book Of Bible Gaffes by jaephoenix(op): 10:02am On Aug 27, 2023
MaxInDHouse:
Innocent as in sincere people are not difficult to know this guy is just dodging facts but trying to accuse others simply because he has chosen atheism. grin
Lol. What facts am I dodging? grin
Christianity EtcRe: The Book Of Bible Gaffes by jaephoenix(op): 10:01am On Aug 27, 2023
MaxInDHouse:
Of course it's the religionists who wrote most of those things you can continue denying it but everyone knows that atheism began gaining ground in less than 200 years ago so who are those that's been behind dictionaries before then if not the same misinformed churchgoers? cheesy
Bro, your ignorance of everything around you sometimes make me think you actually love ignorance.
Philosophical atheist thought began to appear in Europe and Asia in the sixth or fifth century BCE. Way before dictionaries were written. So they didn't start 200 years ago like your ignorant mind or Kingdom Hall pastors told you.
Lets assume atheism started 200 years ago and theists wrote dictionaries, do you think they would insert their theist thoughts into it? Lemme give you an example(since your brain is sawdust). If I believe as a Christian that Yahweh created man would I put in the dictionary? Would I write that prayers answers all our problems?
Christianity EtcRe: The Book Of Bible Gaffes by jaephoenix(op): 9:51am On Aug 27, 2023
MaxInDHouse:
Quote them out in the Bible word for word! cheesy
Have you been reading my posts or your brain has been on offline mode?
Christianity EtcRe: The Book Of Bible Gaffes by jaephoenix(op): 9:50am On Aug 27, 2023
preciousee17:
Listen carefully oo:

You say I dodged Balaam's Story because I didn't explain how Balaam disobeyed Yahweh.

Where is the Original Story? Bible?
Where did the Original Source narrate the story as a story of Balaam disobeying Yahweh?
Didn't I open the Original Source for you? Didn't you see greed?

So phrase yourself again. Did I dodge the original story or I dodged your false interpretation of what you wanted the story to be?
Using this analogy, I can also say Cain shouldn't have been cursed by Yahweh. He should have waited for Jesus to die so his(Cain) sins would be washed away.
Theist logic grin
Christianity EtcRe: Pakistan Christians Worshipping God In Churches Destroyed By Extremists(Videos) by jaephoenix(m): 9:27am On Aug 27, 2023
Abuventure:
Bible is our yard stick. Christians don't pay even with evil
Really?
A little research should educate you but you aren't interested
Christianity EtcRe: Pakistan Christians Worshipping God In Churches Destroyed By Extremists(Videos) by jaephoenix(m): 9:26am On Aug 27, 2023
Westerhoffe:
Christians has always been persecuted because they chose not to fight back.
Until Christians begin to resist these persecutions, they will keep getting persecuted.
Obviously you haven't read about the Great Crusades, the Salem Witch Trials, the Huguenot Wars etc. Even now, there are Christian terrorist groups.
You choose what you wanna hear.
Christianity is also bloody
Christianity EtcRe: The Book Of Bible Gaffes by jaephoenix(op): 12:48am On Aug 27, 2023
preciousee17:
No, I would rather wait for you to explain how I dodged Balaam's story
Because you didn't explain how Balaam disobeyed Yahweh. Simple
Christianity EtcRe: The Book Of Bible Gaffes by jaephoenix(op): 12:47am On Aug 27, 2023
cornelboy:
After I said perfect, you still asked me that 🙂
Don't make it sound as if you're lecturing me.
Do you understand that your ways doesn't include the future?

Fast forward to the main question abeg
Oh, I'm lecturing you.
And my ways include the future.
Please what do you think 'my ways' imply?
English is really difficult for you guys. Poor you grin
Christianity EtcRe: God Trully Exists...my Experience by jaephoenix(m): 12:45am On Aug 27, 2023
preciousee17:
I wonder how you got here by the way.

Most importantly, I'll be replying you not more than 10 times on this thread. Make it useful.

1. God's Will is simply God's Will — exactly as a dictionary will define the word 'Will'
Then no need proceeding. Keep your opinions. Thank you

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