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gisevak:
What is your stand on the concept of a creator or creators? Do you know if it exists or if it doesn't exist?

Everything around us evolved or grew. Some were human made. Animals, rocks, trees all evolved from tiny multicellulars. How those multicellulars came to be, I don't know. But if they were created, then that means that creator must have a creator. Such powerful, wise creator surely wouldnt pop into existence, would it?

gisevak:
What is your proof for this claim? Where did you read it? Can you point me to the facts? Don't just tell me you have no proof for this claim. Put into writing here facts and not illogical guesses.

You need proof of how trees grow? Proof of how they geeminate from a seed or stock and turn into that giant baobab or iroko?
Dafuq!

gisevak:
Let us take this analogy: I am not a sea diver, and so I don't have the capacity to go inside the bottom of the Pacific Ocean. I have tried to go deep, but I lack the capacity to do so. And I have a brother or someone that can go that deep into the ocean, or probably must have gone inside. And someone told me there was gold at the bottom of the sea. What would you do to verify the truth? So I lack the capacity to even reject the Creator. You can go ahead and provide that fact or books that claim there is no creator with 100 percent proof. I am open-minded about the Creator.

No you aint open-minded.
Lemme expound further.
What if I tell you there's a monster sitting on your head right now? Would you believe me or not? Please answer yes or no. And your reasons. I don't need a bush-beating answer.
Thank you

Dtruthspeaker:
Off Point! The topic is about our creation and not The Creator. So clearly you have nothing reasonable to say.

Like I always thought, you don't have a comeback on those questions. Clearly shows how poor your mental acuity is

Dtruthspeaker:
This is not entirely correct because.

1.) It is impossible to not believe in God and it is already long proven that those who are antiGod (atheist) are people who are simply antiGod because God stops and condemns them for all the evil they do and wish to do, among other reasons.

So, it is clear that it is not that people do not believe in God, rather it is a refusal/vendetta to believe in God.

As is proven people generally do not believe in aliens and shit but you don't see them crazily screaming even to point of resorting to lies in attack of those who support alienism.

It is just a pure guilt ridden person who stoops to the denial of claiming unbelief in God.

2). And it is known that demons are evil doing spirits which jws anf Max and you atheists have been caught doing hence the call out.

1. Why do you think its impossible to not believe god? There's literally millions of atheists existing. Matter of fact, your chatting with one!
And how did u arrive at this harebrained conclusions that atheists exist because of your skydaddy's condemnation?
Have you brought any shred of evidence of your god's existence? If I tell you that Thor exists, would you believe me? So why would someone believe your god exists?
Yes anti-alien people exist and they have communities. And please point out to my lies.
Lol about your guilt-ridden point. It may be news to you but theists have more guilts than atheists. Check the crime distribution in the world.
2. I don't even know how to answer this one. First you have to prove demons exist before we go further.
I understand why CaveatEmptor just doesn't like engaging you. You simply lack the quality depth of knowledge, both scientific and philosophical.
If at all you're indeed a lawyer, I'd like to know if you engage in courtroom battles. You're so piss poor in brilliant exchanges

TruthsFM:
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These pictures absolutely has nothing to do with Mohbad. Bloggers just wanna have fun with una brain

Aemmyjah:
Jaephoenix joined the religious section of nairaland to make mockery of religious people since he, as a sees religious people as stupid and not intelligent
He was successful at first, gaining the upper hand until he jam Max and I... His other miscreant, Worksch has retired. Changing from atheist to agnostics
Jaephoenix kept trying and trying but he kept revealing folly upon folly seeing that he don jam wetin pass him
Now he made alliance with the same people who he claimed were stupid to start talking nonsense to ease his pain

Did he not read that in that same image, we mentioned that child abuse is a grave sin?
Has he read the entire article to see if we tolerate such evil and what we do to those who are guilty of such

When I tell you that atheists are the most foolish set of people of earth... They are the GOAT of such people, it is only an understatement... He's envious of the fact that he's seen true wisdom from God... We have all the evidence that life was designed by God beyond just Genesis 1:1... Instead of burying his head in shame, he's blowing hot

I see your have changed tact.
You have been vehemently denying that all the news articles about your organization offences are lies. You no dey talk that one again?

cornelboy:
Thanks you for the good work.

Even they were sexual immorality practices among the early church.
And you can see from the publication that unrepentant ones were disfellowshipped from the congregation just like it was done among the early church.

Why do you care so much, didn't you profess that you are an atheist?

No JWs will ever say there's no sin among them.
We are all imperfect humans.

Did you read the part I said one of your well known members here, specifically Aemmyjah denied any of the crimes?
Or you have tunnel vision?
In fact it was his denial that made me open this thread.
I never said other denoms are saints. Mind you

Jehovah Witnesses is a denom which always call themselves the salt of the earth. Their lead member here known as Maxindhouse has said they are the only true christians. However they depict all sorts of immortality exhibited by non-jw which includes rapng, child mol@station, even wife swapping.
Their other member AemmyJah has vehemently denied their members engage in such despicable acts despite several news articles proclaiming their depravity. They have covered these acts especially their GBs and elders. However their own publication, either by omission or commission has finally admitted that in fact JWs commit these offences.
Cc
Maxindhouse
Aemmyjah
IconicR
Cornelboy
Janosky

Other jw fruitcakes are welcome to this expose. Thank you

Aemmyjah:
If it was there
Maybe I did not see it
Why not post it?
Evil slanderer
Atheist living with instant gratification like animals
Claiming selfishness is his purpose but preaching humanity

Continue wailing to your own pain

Since you denied such evils and you also deny it was published, I'll open a thread about the jw.org snippets. You would defend yourself there
I'll tag you, MadMax and their jw fruitcakes

harlee:
Before you is 6,
Before me is 9,
None of us is wrong,we only just see it from different angles.
God bless you.

But it was Yahweh that inspired the bible, right?

Dtruthspeaker:
We have had this argument before and i told you Charity begins at home!

And I told you every people everywhere were taking slaves.

Thus, definitely, the first step in God's Plan is to free His people from slavery, before others.

That is why you do not see any Israelite buying or getting a slave again by David's time. They got the Message and the Commandment And now slavery is condemned all over the world.

So God's Plan has worked in this area as where before people thought slavery was right, now the whole world now knows that it is wrong.

1. People back in bible times were committing murder, worshipping idols. Did Yahweh explicitly tell them to desist in his commandments? Yes.
Were people also capturing people and taking them as slaves. Did Yahweh explicitly tell them to desist in his commandments? No. What did he do? He was telling the slaves how to make sure they make their masters happy. Why didn't he castigate slavery ab initio? <crickets>
2. So after Yahweh 'freed his own people', does slavery stop? No. It continued til the 17th century.
Did Yahweh free 'the others' from slavery? No
3. In David's time, slavery was very much in vogue. Obviously like many Christians you don't read your Bible. You prefer engaging in verbal gymnastics to defend the indefensible.
4. And no, it wasn't yahweh that stopped slavery. You obviously have no idea of history

Aemmyjah:
That's the way Jaephoenix is
He says he's an atheist and he's selfish and he has to focused on him
Now he is showing humanity first

You no say virus de im brain

Did you or did you not see the post about jw.org actually saying you guys are gays, rapists etc? All these deflection tactics won't work

Aemmyjah:
Sometimes, you're too unreasonable to continue any conversation with
Your foolishness made you win

Again you ignored my allusion to your own jw.org publication. How long would you continue dodging it?
Its hard being a theist but harder being a JW

Aemmyjah:
Sometimes, you're too unreasonable to continue any conversation with
Your foolishness made you win

Again you ignored my allusion to your own jw.org publication. How long would you continue dodging it?

SIRTee15:
Even the definition of destiny u brought here agrees with me. Destiny can be altered by human actions.
If I'm to be honest with u, I will say u not a smart person. U just forcing it.

Maynman that thought Herod Agrippa was the first to call Jesus followers Christians. Na that one show me pepper. Someone that chaptgpt was humiliating up and down in that thread. Abegi....

I dont have time to waste with u. U not smart enough to waste time on.

Just explain to me what this phrase mean 'God dictated verbatim to the scribes/prophets'.

1. Trying to take control of one's destiny, does not mean one can actually control such destiny.
Even your own dictionary meaning clearly stated destiny is predetermined(irrespective of what you do)
2. About chatgpt, u didn't even know anything about it. You were just blabbing on that thread.
3. So when someone quotes another person word for word, its not verbatim?

Dtruthspeaker:
Only mad people suffer partial eyesightedness for every normal person can clearly see that God freed slaves and that in His bible He said "Ephesians 6:5
Servants, obey your earthly masters with deep respect and fear. Serve them sincerely as you would serve Christ.

Even right now you serve people and no one in the world has ever said it is wrong to serve people.



America genocided Japan and no one said it was wrong if anything Japan was the one who apologized.

As i said it is only mad people like you and op who speak these lies.

1. Yahweh allowed only Israelites slaves to be freed after 7 years of suffering . Non Israelite slaves suffer for live
2. So what stopped Yahweh from telling Israelites slavery is bad, just like he condemned covetousness, stealing, murder etc
3. We're talking about Yahweh here, who is considered sacrosanct and holy. Not US that is run by sinful mortals. Learn to use your brain

Dtruthspeaker:
It is proven already. AS CONCERNING US AND OUR WORLD, THINGS DO NOT CREATE THEMSELVES..

THEY ARE ALWAYS CREATED AND BROUGHT INTO EXISTENCE BECAUSE A PERSON CREATED THEM.

NO FURTHER REASONABLE QUERY AFTER THIS.

Who created them? Whats evidence of this creation? And who created this creator?

Kobojunkie:
The Bible actually make that claim? Where?

The Book is instead primarily a story about a people — the descendants of Jacob— and 2 Nations constituted of the people — The Nation of Israel(and then Judah) in the Land of Canaan, and the Kingdom of God(a Nation that is not of this world), the constitution of both Nations clearly expressed in the Bible. So how in the world can any of that be considered religious?

I don't even think you read the Bible. Its clearly written there. If you don't know, tell me and I'll show you the quotes

HISSCRIBE1995:
is atheism a religion ?

No. When you switch off a Television, what channel would you be watching

AntiChristian:
We are moving closer!

We have a capable minister!

We have a willing president!

And most importantly with God on our side!

Nigeria will be great and the naysayers will left behind!

What do you see in the medical sector that is making you so enthusiastic?
That sector is fvcked

Raskimonojendor:
I am 100% sure that Canada does not give a fak about The World Federation for Medical Education (WFME).

You will still be put through the huddle below:

And to make matters worse, you can't even take MCCE in Nigeria. The nearest center is Ghana. Nigerian doctors see hell during obtaining of Canadian medical licenses

MaxInDHouse:
Fool!

There can never be a liar without the truth sayer so present the truth sayer so we can compare and contrast with the liar.

The truth is you're lying

xproducer:
++++++++

Without question, yes... mankind does not write like this... only GOD declares centuries prior (of the arrival of the Lord YESHUA, MESSIAH HIMSELF, of Persian king Cyrus and his part in history, other empires past and their end) and decades before with specificity (destruction of the second temple in A.D. 70, the reformation and return of the nation of Israel to their given homeland, etc).

In the Holy Bible the evidence of humankinds' shortcomings are apparent, but certainly more evident is GOD's purpose, and power and infinite wisdom!

"All Scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness, that the man of God may be complete, thoroughly equipped for every good work." - 2 Timothy 3:16-17

"for prophecy never came by the will of man, but holy men of God spoke as they were moved by the Holy Spirit." - 2 Peter 1:21

David’s Last Words:
"Now these are the last words of David. Thus says David the son of Jesse; Thus says the man raised up on high, The anointed of the God of Jacob, And the sweet psalmist of Israel: "The Spirit of the Lord spoke by me, And His word was on my tongue. The God of Israel said, The Rock of Israel spoke to me: ‘He who rules over men must be just, Ruling in the fear of God." - 2 Samuel 23:1-3

Can you point out where the prophecies were made?

MaxInDHouse:
Does these stories stop billions from attending the Mass with Catholics?
Ọmọ use your brain, it's what people see in their neighbourhood that really matters not what you fabricate!

Unlike you guys, Catholics aren't denying the stories. But are not hiding them and also they are doing something about it. They also issued apologies. But u and Enemyjah has been denying it for years

Aemmyjah:
All these child abuse claims are lies
The biggest way today to publicly embarrass a person or organization is to accuse them as guilty of charges like child abuse or any sexual abuse...
Just one of their slander... We are free with our children and I can entrust my children to stay with a brother or sister even more than my relatives... Yet, they say our organization is infested with child abusers

They say we sell books
They say Our GB members are businessmen with huge shares
They say we are selling our kingdom halls to make money
They say We are desperately begging people to join us cos our numbers are declining
They say we don't care for our young and allow them to die when issue of blood arises... They deliberately ignore that in the developed world, the use of blood in surgeries is now frowned at and many who don't even believe in God or heard what the Bible says regarding blood don't accept blood in medical care cos of the risks associated with it... So-called Christians claiming to follow the Bible will point accusing fingers... They deliberately ignore that there's alternative to blood surgeries which is more cheaper, risk effective... They deliberately ignore that use of blood is even 50-50... You may die and you may live but there are risks associated

Atheists are envious that one group is beating their intelligence... Religious people too are envious too. Pharisees, sadducees and non worshippers collabo to throw accusations they can't prove

Lies abi?
But someone brought up a screenshot of a publication where your organization made a publication on their website jw.org stating that you have gays, rapists, molesters etc in your midst. Til now you and Nairaland resident fruitcake MadMax have gone mute on that. Idiot

Nelidee:
Question: Why are there so many abusers in your organisation?

MaxInDHouse: I refuse to believe there are child rapists and abusers in my organisation because you have not shown me one from your neighborhood

Questions: But your organisation hides these cases and threaten members from reporting to the police, how can we hear about it in our neighborhood when your organisation tells raped victims to keep silent?

MaxInDHouse: Why are you pointing fingers at my Christian organisation for tolerating and hiding child abusers and molesters when you an atheist support depopulation?



Obviously there is something wrong somewhere in your brain.

He's a well known fruitcake here. Along with Aemmyjah and Janosky

MaxInDHouse:
Each month i donate thousands to God's organization and i will continue to do more!

Please continue. Jehovah would bless you as you donate towards settlement of child abuse cases(aka hush money)

MaxInDHouse:
Bring picture of JW in your neighbourhood who was molesting a child.
Thanks in advance!

Even your jw.org corroborated those stories that you guys are rapists, gays etc. What again do you wanna deny? Someone gave you a screenshots of their publications weeks ago but you have refused to say anything about it. Even Aemmyjah kept quiet.
Hypocrites!

MaxInDHouse:
How many have you caught in your neighbourhood?

Have you caught a Nigerian politician stealing money?

Caveatemptor:
Keep burying your head like an ostrich as usual.
The problem I always have with Christians is refusal to see errors in the Bible and rationality explain these errors. You guys would rather turn a blind eye to all the contradictions and evil teaching in the Bible and attempt to explain it away in a circular kind of way.
See no evil and hear no evil.

Once again I repeat the bible does not condemn slavery and promotes misogyny, genocide, human sacrifice, rape,mass murder,lies,incest,destruction of entire civilisations amongst other evil deeds. That is why so many pastors and religious leaders are able to engage in paedophilia and sexual abuse of their female members.

Look,I know it is hard for you to accept these things but deep down in your heart you know all what I wrote is true. However I don't want to derail this thread so I challenge you to open your own thread and tag me so we can quote Bible passages and critically examine the bible.

I opened such a thread but all they gave was gibberish

Dtruthspeaker:
This thread is about one of what you people call contradictions and as you have seen, it is explained. And the contradictions are not even bad. Just a proof that devils will reveal themselves by their talks.

Secondly, the bible is the first to condemn slavery and order the release of slaves.

https://www.nairaland.com/7554359/god-condemned-slavery-7-bible

Thirdly, it condemned all the evils you mentioned, rapist, incest, liars and entire evil nations were punished, so nothing wrong here.

1. No, the contradiction was not explained. You just said gibberish which was not an explanation
2. The bible condoned and allowed slavery
Colossians 3:22

Slaves, obey your earthly masters in everything you do. Try to please them all the time, not just when they are watching you. Serve them sincerely because of your reverent fear of the Lord


Ephesians 6:5
Slaves, obey your earthly masters with deep respect and fear. Serve them sincerely as you would serve Christ.

3. Yahweh specifically asked people or allowed incests, rapes, murders, genocides, infanticides etc