The aim of JW as an organization is to convert as many people as they can. Thus their rigorous and extensive evangelism. In fact they are the most evangeslistic denom. Everyday, they use tracts, door to door evangelism and other forms of nuisance. I give it to them. So assuming they are very successful and manage to convert almost every citizen in a country, let use Nigeria. So we then have about 99% Nigerians as JWs. That means we'll possibly have JW president and thus our Army would be disbanded since the JW clowns dont fight. Now the question is, do you think countries like Cameroun that have been eyeing our oil rich towns and cities would back down? They took Bakassi and nothing happened. What makes you think they wont invade Nigeria and annex us? There's nothing to stop them. International communities dont care. They US dont wanna involve themselves in many wars(look at the Russia-Ukraine war). Wars cost money. They only want a fight that would be economically important to them. And no country would send their own citizens to go and fight and die for another country that dont wanna fight for themselves. (being JWs) Please read properly before replying Maxinthehouse Aemmyjah Janosky IconicR
JWs are the true Christians we mustn't settle in one location if we found out that we've won the heart of everyone in our neighbourhood it's time to go and convert people in other lands:
"Go, therefore, and make disciples of people of all the nations" Matthew 28:19
If you're not stupid the above should tell you that true Christians can't converge in a location and form citizen of one country we must go and meet people in other places!
Its like your IQ is too low to understand even plain English. Lemme break it down like I'm talking to a 2 year old. Your aim as an organization is to convert as many people as you can. Thus your rigorous and extensive evangelism. In fact you guys are the most evangeslistic denom. I give it to you. So assuming you are very successful and you manage to convert almost every citizen in a country, let use Nigeria. So we then have about 99% Nigerians as JWs. That means we'll possibly have JW president and thus our Army would be disbanded since you clowns dont fight. Now the question is, do you think countries like Cameroun that have been eyeing our oil rich towns and cities would back down? They took Bakassi and nothing happened. What makes you think they wont invade Nigeria and annex us? There's nothing to stop them. International communities dont care. They US dont wanna involve themselves in many wars(look at the Russia-Ukraine war). Wars cost money. They only want a fight that would be economically important to them. And no country would send their own citizens to go and fight and die for another country that dont wanna fight for themselves. (being JWs) Please read properly before replying
preciousee17: The Old Testament Scriptures usually symbolizes a whole lot of things/patterns.
About 12 messages can be confidentially encrypted into a pile of Scriptures and you'd never see it till the day the Lord takes the veil off your eyes.
It's like a Rubik's cube, you can easily arrange one face of the cube, see the clear picture and leave the rest scattered, Or you can completely arrange the cube and see the clear picture from six unique but accurate point of views.
So this Balaam's Donkey, let's hear a little about it:
MaxInDHouse: Madness doesn't mean the brain is dead it simply means malfunctioning of the brain so a madman or madwoman will continue to say what has been programmed in their brains. To know how sound they are it's not about what they are saying but ability to work in line with what they're saying, of course an insane can only mimick what has been programmed in his brain he can't do anything to prove he knows exactly what he's saying that's why James said faith without works is DEAD! James 2:18-26
gisevak: Tell me about your findings that made you change your views to atheism. Is it the Abrahamic Religion? Is it those Scriptures contradictions or illogical concept of hellfire?? But there are more to this Don't just limit your knowledge to atheism. It is more logical to be agnostic than atheism.
What is logical, saying Jaephoenix isn't sitting on your shoulder OR I dont know if Jaephoenix is sitting on my shoulder? Please answer
gisevak: How does the Earth form? Give your theory or you don't have any
Formation. When the solar system settled into its current layout about 4.5 billion years ago, Earth formed when gravity pulled swirling gas and dust in to become the third planet from the Sun. Like its fellow terrestrial planets, Earth has a central core, a rocky mantle, and a solid crust.[i][/i] From NASA All these knowledge is in public purview. It's not hidden. Why you choose not to know and decide to tag it supernatural, I would never know
gisevak: Don't you think in the future,scientists cannot still get origin of life on Earth?
Dude, I'm not a seer. But I believe in the future, there would be better scientific tools to research the universe, thus throwing more light on origin of life
Yes, it is. And some atheists hold that view. Some theists hold the view too. So its not strictly atheistic purview. You'll yourself have philosophical views. Every human has his or hers
Maynman: Theist, we can now see your ignorance in full glare hiding under religion yet pretending. " I asked you a more simple question, why do rain fall. And you became empty. you are desperate for anything"supernatural", instead of you to use your brain to solve a problem you call it "supernatural".
You were never an atheist, you lack the definition of what atheism is.
Scientists are humans like you, using their brain to know more about nature and not settling for beliefs in the name of supernatural, you are just there to castigate scientist and call what you lack knowledge on "supernatural".], after you call it "supernatural' you stop thinking, that's why europeans are different from africans.
gisevak: Physical laws are rules that describe the behavior of the physical universe. For example the Second Law of Thermodynamics
I don't think you have idea of why you become atheist. You could not even give answers to some simple questions been asked. Are you doing follow follow just like one-eyed man leading the blind I was once an atheist before I changed my perspective. Atheism doesn't make you more woke than others. The world or universe is complex, see it in different angles yourself. Do you know scientists has limited knowledge about what goes on under the ocean or waters?
Yes they have limited knowledge which is being updated daily. It still doesn't make those unknown phenomena supernatural. That's ignorance on your part. Its the same thing we are telling you about humans that worship the sky because they don't know how rain works and thus think there's a god up there giving us water from the sky
MaxInDHouse: People with twisted hearts are easy to identify when you're discussing about what is uncommon they will continue to talk about the common then using the common to judge the group that has what is uncommon!
There is no group where child molesters can't be found because it's a global phenomenon but when talking about the quality God asked us to look out for as evidence of His worshipers only Jehovah's Witnesses have it.
But you know that really makes an atheist feel pained in his heart because he doesn't want to acknowledge the presence of the person who has spoken and fulfilled His promises in the midst of His true worshipers!
Pained in my heart about JWs? Lol. There's no quality in you guys that is desirable
Aemmyjah: I don't deny that there have been cases of child abuse. You have not seen or heard just 1 case of such among us except what you read online. Your brain is so empty. You make it seem like our organization is infested with child abusers but that is not the case. I've not even heard of 1 such case in Nigeria or Africa as a whole, let Jehovah judge his worshippers... Demented Jaephoenix knows the religion with the highest cases of child abuse, even very common among their religious leaders but he's quiet on that. That is the one he could have joined cos they 'clean'. You have never proven yourself any relevant on Nairaland
So now you agree, only after MadMax talk say na true. If not you for no gree. Lol. You specifically told me all those stories are lies. So why change mouth now. Lollest By the way, the difference between you and Catholics is they don't come online on Nairaland disturbing us that they are the best christians . If they did that, believe me, I'd have given them the same treatment I'm handing to you guys. But guess what, catholics don't do say that here. How many times have you seen a Catholic opening threads, gloating that they are the best since sliced bread?
MaxInDHouse: They all support the killing of their oppositions even though such ones are their fellow believers in other countries.
I gave you a scenario about a country that is 95% JW being faced by invasion by a nearby country. You gave a stupid reply. Lemme tell you something. Be happy that we all aint JWs. If not you, MadMax, EnemyJah and other JW fruitcakes would be overrun by Cameroun. Do you think if Cameroun knows that Nigeria is predominantly JW they won't attack and annihilate us? Bakassi won't be the only issue we would have with them. And the international community won't do much. France is always backing them.
MaxInDHouse: So in a nutshell Catholics are the father of the orthodox churches and their members don't see anything wrong in killing neighbours even if such neighbours are their members?
Aemmyjah: False accusations Another story from your twisted source
MadMax said they happened but every organization have crazies. You say they never happened and they are liars. Lol. You guys have to get your shit together and stick to one. I know one of you is lying(which is a regular feature for JWs)
gisevak: Then let wait till that 50 years when it would become natural. We can simply call it now beyond science or supernatural What if in 50 years time scientists actually said some phenomena is supernatural? What would you do?
Like we keep on pointing out. Some phenomena were said to be supernatural years ago but these days are natural. Like lightning, epidemics etc. Science has a way of getting the answers to these supernatural questions as they develop more tools for research. Give it time and science fixes it
gisevak: Facts is never only opinions of any belief systems. This does not make me a theist. Try to know the truth about not only religion but also in world. The world or universe cannot just be explained with scientific proofs alone. Did you know about quantum physics
I know about Quantum Physics and Quantum Mechanics. We are even trying to build Quantum Resistant Blockchains in crypto
gisevak: You supplied a dumb response. You're more ignorant than I thought Check the question that was asked. See your reply!!!
You asked if I see any evidence of orderliness or purpose in the universe. And I replied if you have an ordered and purposeful universe before. You need a template or control for your assumption. So the answer is correct. For example if you say a room is clean and neat, you must have seen a clean and neat room before. Savvy?
gisevak: How does this answer the questions being asked? Since you know science has no answers to everything, don't you think it's illogical to conclude about things? What if science comes out today that all you know is a lie What would you do
Ok. I agree science has answers to some phenomena. But it doesn't acknowledge the supernatural. Maybe because it doesn't have the knowledge or equipment to tackle it. So do you think science should do more to address the supernatural? If you do, then you have to define 'supernatural'. Because what is supernatural today may be natural in 50 years
gisevak: Atheists hold certain beliefs or philosophies about life, ethics, and the universe? Do you agree with it?
Atheism means belief in no god. Which translates to no demons, spirits, etc. Atheism doesn't approve any philosophy. Many atheists hold differing philosophies. Maybe you'll have to explain the specific philosophies. And I defo don't know about any ethics. We aint an organization
gisevak: It seems you don't understand the question properly. Let me explain it to you briefly; Scientists have discovered that the universe has just the right things in it, like stars, planets, and gravity, for life to exist. Scientists think it all these happened all by itself over a really, really long time. They called it, "fine tune". Try to comprehend before you rush to respond. Your response is against the scientific explanations. This is pure contradiction of your belief system.
1. Gravity is inimical to human existence. 2. Can you be more specific on 'just the right things'?