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MaxInDHouse:
@Jaephoenix
I'm a liberal person who respect the opinion of others but when you come up to challenge what others believe then you should be able to prove what you believe too.

There's no science (sense) in believe that other creature turned into a bird when it's can't be verified through any testable means yet you're furiously arguing about Moses parting the red sea. So if you believe that it's possible for one creature to turn into a bird (which is impossible) you should be able to respect the believe of others no matter what they say!

There is a difference. The fossils of those creatures are very much around. Some are in museums all over the world except Africa where we don't believe them. And they have been studied extensively.
In the case of Moses, there's simply no evidence he parted the Red Sea or even existed for that matter

jaephoenix:
Oh, finally. A brave agnostic answers. Hallelujah praise thy Noodly Limbs, the Great Flying Spaghetti Monster. I bless your Holy Pasta.
Whoa!
Please don't be annoyed. Let me digest this breakthrough in this discourse. Lemme take a breath…

So now we have gotten somewhere. I thank you dear TripleChoice for such bravado on breaking out of your agnostic 'shell' and embracing reality.
And no, I dont see any flying dragons, hovering over my head. Or anything at all on my head.
So may I ask, how did u come to such a conclusion that there's nothing hovering over you? Forgive my inquisitive nature

triplechoice:
I cannot see any. So no.

Do you see one ?

Answer yes or no

Oh, finally. A brave agnostic answers. Hallelujah praise thy Noodly Limbs, the Great Flying Spaghetti Monster. I bless your Holy Pasta.
Whoa!
Please don't be annoyed. Let me digest this breakthrough in this discourse. Lemme take a breath…

Workch:
Do you see any alien before making it a possibility that they might exist?

Why must we work with your own dragon analogy?

Again, I never mentioned aliens. Dammit!
Answer the question

Workch:
nope, it's like someome asking if aliens exist or not without giving me an opportunity to say that I don't know hence I don't have an opinion.

Why don't you want me to wait for evidence for or against for aliens before making a knowledgeable conclusion

Bro, again. I never mentioned aliens. In fact, I'm not interested in them.
I SIMPLY ASKED IF THERE IS A RED DRAGON, OR A BIRD, HOVERING OVER YOUR HEAD.
Why is this question evoking severe deflection antics from agnostics?

MaxInDHouse:
Can you prove the highlighted by showing me where another creature evolved into a bird?

I dont have that time but please read this…
https://www.nhm.ac.uk/discover/why-are-birds-the-only-surviving-dinosaurs.html#:~:text=Birds%20evolved%20from%20a%20group,about%20150%20million%20years%20old.
If you have a question, lemme know

vdestro:
You cant take it back or change it. The records are very very clear. You dont have anything reasonable to say.

Please go back and reread my posts. This time slowly, and before then, take your haldol.

vdestro:
They speak from the limits of their knowledge. We all do.

Ok. Please educate him

MaxInDHouse:
So can you prove sodomists are evil in any way when you're against God's word: Bible?

I don't need to prove anything. All JWs are the real sodomists. The dictionary definition is wrong? Take it or leave it.

MaxInDHouse:
So who created them that way thousands of years before mankind discovered electricity?

My case has continue to hunt you but i'm not here to taunt you my guy so if you're not OK with my comments you can stop quoting me because i will continue to drag you towards the end you're scared of: EXISTENCE OF GOD!

You really need basic science in your life. Do u know the evolution of birds? Do you know what a theropod is? Even if you skipped high school science, use Google

Emusan:
It's actually unintelligent question.



I should answer a pointless question



If you have evidence what do you still want to TEST?

That shows you don't understand yourself.

Simple question…
Can we ascertain Moses actually parted the Red Sea? Yes or no. Please answer. I'm tired of you deflecting

vdestro:
Sure!

Good. So how come your fellow Christian here Emusan said miracles are spiritual and thus can't be proven physically?

vdestro:
See twisting because you see how i have stuck it to you that they are lying and can lie and you are very displeased with it.

You saw i said that "you appreciate that they can be lying since everything from beginning to end comes from their mannipulation". Therefore, they cannot be believed. You saw it, so you can not change it.

And if you dont have anything reasonable to say, then i part.

Did you skip your meds?
I’m really concerned about your mental health

MaxInDHouse:
Atheist calling someone "SODOMIST" when he himself can't even prove LGBTQ as something evil.

Ọmọ calm down and let's reason instead of been judgmental like religious fanatics!

To me, anyone that believes JWs are righteous is a sodomist. Take it or leave it

MaxInDHouse:
SCIENCE is what God left to humans for us to work on the things He made and continue discovering a lot through research. He didn't want to tell us what we can achieve through scientific research but gave us the freewill to explore that's why the scriptures say :

Further, God blessed them, and God said to them: “Be fruitful and become many, fill the earth and subdue it, and have in subjection the fish of the sea and the flying creatures of the heavens and every living creature that is moving on the earth.” Genesis 1:28

He gave us His blessings to continue in making more things through scientific research and we can never ever get to the root of all the things He made we can only continue to improve daily:

He has made everything beautiful in its time. He has even put eternity in their heart; yet mankind will never find out the work that the true God has made from start to finish. Ecclesiastes 3:11

So how do you expect Him to start telling us how to make electricity if truly He created us with the ability to invent?

Have you ever wondered why birds had legs that could stand on electric wires without been electrocuted?

Ọmọ the one and only area God doesn't want man to think towards is RULING OVER HIS KIND apart from that God gave mankind freewill to explore this planet!

Even basic high school science explained why birds don't get electrocuted on live wire. But an Intelligence Officer doesn't know. SMH

Emusan:
because your questions are pointless!

Imagine asking "if there is EVIDENCE of Moses parted red sea for it to BE TESTED"

No. They are intelligent questions. If its pointless, answer it and prove to me they are pointless.
Is there evidence that Moses in fact parted the Red Sea? If you have any, lets have it

vdestro:
Who told you that a miracle only occurs when at the hands/mouths of a pastor?

Common sense already tells you that anyone who relies on a pastor for a miracle is not a christian and any pastor who says come to me for miracles is not a christian. That is a customer with his babalawo.

There is no way your amputated diabetic would be healed that he would not know and that he would not show all who were aware of his condition that he has received a miracle. And that is how a miracle is verified.

So in effects, when someone is 'healed', we can ascertain it, right?

Workch:
the question it's a loaded question and false dichotomy.
You have to understand that some people are neutral and they will ewit for evidence for or against

How is that loaded? Just like somebody asking you if are in Lagos or not. Its either you are or aren't

Workch:
I can't answer it, I can't answer whether or not I believe in aliens. Why should I believe or disbelieve if I csnt just b neutral and wait for evidence

I didn’t say anything about aliens, sir.
Lemme rephrase…
DO YOU SEE ANY RED DRAGONS HOVERING OVER YOUR HEAD RIGHT NOW?
Its a simple question but its obviously giving you agnostics sleepless nights. I have asked you, Wilgrea, A001 and TripleChoice who are the noted agnostics here, but all I get is all flavors of dodge tactics.
CAN YALL PLEASE ANSWER THE DAMN QUESTION!

elated177:
jae, you are the fruitcake. Are you ready to engage me on his behalf?

Bring it on!

Maynman:
“ My uncle attended only secondary school so whenever he gets the sense of something that's difficult to grasp he will say
"I see"
Of course he isn't seeing anything that could be pointed to but it simply means he has grasped what others may fail to grasp.”

Wtf is this 😂😂

Same response I had. Really MadMax needs a shrink fast. He's losing his grip on reality

MaxInDHouse:
Ignorance makes many to conclude that they can prove the existence of God through physical things whereas in all cultures and traditions God/Gods has to do with none physical things. So whether God exist or not it can't be proved by anyone other than using an approach having to do with high intellect.

My uncle attended only secondary school so whenever he gets the sense of something that's difficult to grasp he will say
"I see"
Of course he isn't seeing anything that could be pointed to but it simply means he has grasped what others may fail to grasp.

That's how to approach the understanding of God but it's a pity that the REAL atheists have blindfolded many with lies making them feel that God must be seen, heard or even touched before they can be satisfied that He exist.

Most people claiming atheists today are the results of false religious ideas spread by REAL atheists who are claiming pastors! Matthew 7:16-18

What is this sodomist saying?

MaxInDHouse:
That's why i believe SCIENCE belongs to humans in general whether you want to search for God or not so think intelligently because the Bible talks about things relating to science doesn't make it a science textbook.
The title GOD connotes SUPREME BEING not SCIENCE PROFESSOR/TEACHER, the one who is supreme only needs to maintain peace within His domain. That's what is expected of God!

What are you on about?

Emusan:
Out of the topic!

No its not. Just answer the question. Why do people evade my questions here. First these agnostics, now this theist

vdestro:
I am happy that you see that they could be lying and that it is capable of being a lies as every thing used, whether big or small, down to the result they claim to have obtained is fully within their full possession and control and mannipulation.

Thus, all they say and claim is not True!

Dtruthspeaker, do you have comprehension issues? Where did I say they actually lied. I asked you a question if you think they lied. Then I asked you how you think they reconstructed the dinosaurs

vdestro:
Do all this devices not use the things found or fabricated things which are put in them or..., to do whatever work their maker claims it can do?

Did they enter "There is no God Motors to travel to the past to test it?

So youre saying they are lying?
How did they reconstruct dinosaurs?

Emusan:
See question

It may sound stupid. But that is fact. Just answer it

Emusan:
I don't, I reply your post!

So if you don't know then you should ready to take any one thrown at you.

Lol. Ok.
Do you know me? Do you know if I have wings and can fly?

MaxInDHouse:
Naaaaaaaaaaaaaa!
Has science helped to keep humans together as one big and happy family of peace loving creatures? That's what only the knowledge of God can achieve. Science belongs to everyone you can't give the wisdom beyond human understanding to science!

What is the definition of science? Is the aim to keep humans from killing each other? As a physician, is my job to defend criminals?
By the way, it has been found out your folks molest kids. So no, I'd rather stay away from JWs

Emusan:
Check your answer in the attached below

Good. That dictionary used an example. That is rising from the grave. Now if someone rises from the grave, do you see the person as a breathing and living being, or dead?

Maynman:
See an example of a “miracle” here 😂

I remember that case. Some christians were hailing the woman. I kept on telling them that the woman has a rare limb problem but it was like talking to break walls. Nigerians are truly daft

Emusan:
How does this address my point above?

I should be asking you the same.
We were having a perfectly sane discourse and you started quoting some fairy tales