gisevak: If pastors or herbalist could not cure instantly then a conclusion there is no supernatural? This is a shallow mindset. Check the following and give me a scientific proof about the following? Dream?
Sleep?
Gravity?
The First human on earth
Scientific proof of dreams? Dreams can be observed, and in fact, dreams can be 'induced' in humans. Even animals dream too and their dreams have been analyzed too. Dream is dredged from our 'memory banks' and processed by many brain centers from hypothalamus, hypocampus, prefrontal cortex etc. Even limbic system is involved(this happens when we dream and cry)
Sleep? Sleep is easily understood by science than dreams. Sleep is easily studied and graded into Non REM and REM sleep. They sre determined by the waves our cortex emit during sleep.
Gravity? This is a natural phenomenon. Can be explained since we are pulled to the center of the earth. This is my basic physics knowledge. Can't explain further. I'm sure there are materials online for it.
First human? We evolved from lower form animals. And we came from the oceans. We definitely didn't pop out from nowhere
gisevak: The video was captured through his tiktok handle. Observation is a key to knowledge. Make more findings for yourself and stop relying on only what you have been told. Atheists are dogmatic just as organized religion. There are things beyond the physical that we can as well explore just as physics.
Lol. I have tried to observe myself and found nothing. That's why I still remain atheistic. I can give you the specifics of my observations but you may not believe me and I won't blame you.
gisevak: A supernatural events happened to him. This happened when he confronted an herbalist and he was trying to destroy the man shrine. My brother, there are a lot of things beyond physics. You are diving into world of atheism from your topic. I was once an atheist but changed my view as some of their points is not logical and reasonable. It's better to be agnostic than being dogmatic.
And you believed his story without any shred of evidence?
MaxInDHouse: In the year 1997 my own uncle (Muslim) got up and went into the shine of the gods inside our village, he destroyed all the woody images and the big one he couldn't destroy he carried it and threw it into the bush. The next day my uncle became blind and that's how he lived for the rest of his life!
What pained me mostly is how he turned the discussion i had with him into something that actually led to the loss of his sight.
I traveled to our village and on getting there i asked for my parents and my uncle told me they've gone to church for the harvest festival. In our village all religionists does everything in common, during Christmas, Easter and New Year both Muslims and Traditionalists will join the churchgoers to celebrate and when it's the turn of the others the same goes but my uncle (Imam) kicks against such interfaith. So my visit that day led to a discussion when he told me everyone has gone to the church and he's the only person left in the whole village. Thinking i will go and join them he asked: "Won't you also go?" I responded: "They are not worshiping my own God" That response sounds really strange to my uncle and that's how i bore a thorough witness to him that day, he felt so happy that he said:
"Now you and i can team up to rescue our people from the hands of this fetish things they are doing"
I told him things doesn't work that way, if he truly wants to worship the true God he need not foce his own opinion on others each person will decide after hearing the GOOD NEWS. He said he really wish everyone is here to listen to what i'm saying because they will all repent but i told him it's not that easy and if he himself is ready can he abandon Islam for JWs? He said that will be too much for him to bare because everyone has known him as a jihadist (not violent but always kicking against idolatry) so how can he now say he doesn't know what he's doing anymore? I looked into his eyes and tears ran through my cheeks then i asked him: "If you whose parents joined this religion all of a sudden refused to change for the truth you heard now how do you expect those whose ancestors has been in this practice for centuries to change easily?" My uncle couldn't respond anymore! That's what actually prompted him to go into the village shrine and cause a disruption that led to his blindness!
Lets say I believe your story. Has your uncle gone to the hospital for treatment? Is he hypertensive, diabetic etc?
MaxInDHouse: Can you bring Vladimir Putin to Nairaland as evidence that Russian president exists?
Ọmọ magical powers are not the properties of those using it they borrow it from the spirit world so it's the spirits themselves that choose to reveal themselves to whoever they want not the other way around.
So instead of asking a borrower to display the wealth that doesn't belong to him why not go to domain of the owners themselves?
Find a local shrine then enter and disrupt the place, i wish you live to tell the story!
This is the daftest of the daftest posts from the daftest MadMax. We see Putin everyday. We hear him everyday. We watch him move. We see his actions(the Russian Ukraine war). Hell, we know his children. What other evidence do you need he exists?
MaxInDHouse: How old are you? How many places have you been? If you're seeking magical powers it's not given to everyone because those in charge has their own mission and if you're not part of their target they will not even come close to you so you can't see anything to hold onto as evidence of their existence. So free your mind and go find something clean to do for survival because spiritism doesn't work for the innocent but heartless humans whoever goes into it has no means of a return back to normal life. A word is enough for the wise!
Maynman: this is foolishness, have you also gone to the bermuda triangle to experience this "supernatural"? Who are the people that termed it "supernatural"? On what basis is it "supernatural"?
Get some education, there are other places that does exactly what bermuda triangle does and it has an explanation.
Junkie, not only needs education but rehab. Dude's brain is fried
MindHacker9009: I agree that some of the videos were staged but how about the cctv videos, if they were staged too then they have done a very cleaver job.
Obviously you have a lot to learn in videoshopping
Kobojunkie: The supernatural as the name implies is not of physical measurable space but of experience which tends to be a lot more subjective than most are willing to accept . So it is utterly ludicrous to claim that since A and B said it is not real, it then must not be real. It is better to shut up about these things than to insist your conclusion is the right one.
What if I tell you that I'm standing in your room with you, would you believe me, Junkie?
Kobojunkie: Wait a minute. You didn't in fact go and experience the triangle for yourself? You came to regurgitate tales told you by some one else of his experience or what are you doing here? Could you folks stop littering pages with bullsheet every now and then abeg! Oyinbo go carry himself enter Bermuda triangle in order to experience it for himself before drawing a conclusion. This, yet another lazy-minded bugger is here to tell us tales based on inexperience. Just wasted valuable minutes from my evening.
Imagine the line of reasoning: Because A and B said it is not true, therefore it is not true.
Have you experienced Bermuda Triangle before? Yes or no?
Aemmyjah: That dude is very unreasonable like Maynment and Reed Atheists are blind to reality and logic Imagine looking for stories to shade a particular group of people- one twisted Jehovah’s Witness. If one doctor does nonsense and he's not mentally balanced, that means all doctors are guilty to the same deed
Its not just one, there are many reports of JWs murdering people. I posted just 2. You can find the rest of the reports online. But I doubt you'd do that
Aemmyjah: Quote me where I mentioned Catholics as murderers Stupid liar Irrational fellow in an irrational planet I don't blame you
You said this
The nations that fought in the 2 world wars were predominately Catholic
And your buddy MadMax said this Where do we get religious leaders praying for the soldiers (Catholics) going to fight and kill their fellow Catholics in other countries? smiley And since you have been liking his posts, that means you'd have said the same. So talk another lie, liar
MaxInDHouse: Of course it's what the religious leaders teaches that determines what happens in the gathering of their members {Matthew 7:16} if i am a Catholic and i see one of our leaders praying for our members to go and kill fellow Catholics i will challenge him failure to give me a reasonable answer means the religion is FAKE!
As for those you say they also don't participate in wars it's a deceit If you're against something you won't keep mute but continue telling others about what is evil!
Have you challenged any of your leaders that have mol@sted children?
MindHacker9009: I still don't believe these kind of stories too, as there are no chams that can stop any bullet. But still there are demonic activities that happens which can only be known by experiencing it.
Aemmyjah: Simple! Anyhow he wants to bend the definition to a neutral idea is folly Imagine a non-believer playing neutral where religious people are talking
MaxInDHouse: An atheist is a person who doesn't believe in the existence of God (SUPREME BEING) such a person will always act or does what is forbidden by the Gods since he or she doesn't believe they exist!
You and the person that liked your post are dullards. I asked who is a theist
MaxInDHouse: There you go! Where do we get religious leaders praying for the soldiers (Catholics) going to fight and kill their fellow Catholics in other countries?
Do religious leaders equate to all Catholics? Like I said not all Catholics believe in war and there are religions and denoms that dont believe in wars too
MaxInDHouse: Can you quote a verse to back up what you're saying now? Lying is bad but in most cases people does to escape from punishment for example Peter lied that he doesn't know Jesus, he even denied his follow believers out of fear does that makes Peter no longer a Christian?
Ọmọ you either learn how to apply the word or stay away from it, the law Jesus gave his disciples is LOVE your neighbour as yourself {Mark 12:31} LOVE your fellow believers just as he love us {John 13:34-35} LOVE for those persecuting us {Matthew 5:44; Luke 6:27-28} and never raise weapons against anyone! Matthew 26:52
Whoever deliberately choose to go the opposite side is no longer a disciple of Christ Jesus!
I dont need to quote a Bible verse. I applied the same analogy you used on JWs on other Christians too. The world doesn't rotate on you or your JW croonies
MindHacker9009: I made reference to MaxInDHouse post as it made me remember a friend of mine telling us that when he was still very young that he used to live in a house his uncle rented to the Army and that there was this soldier that keeps a snake in pot under his bed in his room and when his in he calls them in his room and he will start playing with the snake. My friend told me he told them that his mum took him to someone to get a charm for protection when he was about to join the Army during the Biafra war so that bullets will not penetrate his body. My also told me the guy does gets into fights with his superior officers and they used live ammunition on the guy but it does not enter his body and the guy shows them all the place they shot him when he get into a fight with his superior officers which has some weird marks and then the guy starts rubbing it with something and the marks will go away. I did not see this myself so I'm not sure if this really happened or not.
Right now, I'm about to preen my wings. I just took a 1 hour flight from my house in Lagos to San Francisco. Quite an enjoyable flight. The cool Atlantic breeze was blowing on my face as I flew on through the Bay and landed on Musk's bedroom. He welcomed me warmly. We are buddies. By the way, look out for a red piano dropping from the sky tomorrow afternoon. Ciao
MaxInDHouse: In fact it's good sometimes reasoning with these atheists because it exposes their senselessness!
If you ask him about his relative who is mad he will say they're hoping he gets back his senses but here he is using the action of a mad man to conclude what the whole group believes.
All Catholics believe they should fight and kill their enemies so there's no psycho attached to that but JWs believe they should love their enemies yet the atheist still finds it difficult to see the clear difference!
Not all Catholics believe their enemies should die. Talk another lie
Aemmyjah: So the action of a psycho individual makes the entire group he belongs as guilty of same crime Your brain works backwards When you have not seen anything against us regarding wars amd conflict, he went to look for stories of mentally imbalanced individual that murdered. The story does not even make any sense. It only makes sense to people like your...irrational individual from irrational planet
Ah yes, he recants. You called Catholics and other Christians murderers. Are all catholics murderers? You see how u rope yourself. I intentionally dug a trap and fell in
Aemmyjah: When you're out of points, you'll bring up the internet and devil to hide your embarrassment when you say an atheist can play neutral in religious matters
Please ask MadMax your buddy. He said dictionaries and internet are written by religionists or devil people. So please get back to my point, will you?
Now you're using your brain, what Jehovah told us is that He is coming to repay each person according to his works so if anyone should deliberately kill his neighbour ask yourself: did such a person believe in the existence of God who promised to avenge for us?
MaxInDHouse: Ukraine asked for it! They know that Russia shared the same boarder with them and they were formerly Russians yet they're planning to form alliance with enemy nations. So the step Russia took is not wrong going by the norms of international communities. But in case of a country where nothing like wars or weapons are produced or used there's no reason to attack them!
Russia has no rights to attack Ukraine. Ukraine is a sovereign nation and owe russia no obligations whether they share a border or not. So if Nigeria has beef with US, Cameroon cannot have any alliance with the US? Anyway I'm not here to talk politics. So you think a peaceful country cannot be attacked by another country? Are you sure you don't have mental issues, Max? I mean, are you sure you dont need a shrink?
Christianity Etc › Re: Supernatural Powers Does Not Exist, They Lied To Us. by jaephoenix(m): 3:59pm On Sep 08, 2023
