Christianity Etc › Re: The Book Of Bible Gaffes by jaephoenix(op): 6:03pm On Apr 28, 2023 |
SIRTee15: Produce the evidence the author of John gospel copied mark.
I'm not here to argue the authors of the gospel books. Produce evidence of this so called Christians who were pagans.
Paul was already known as a Christian in acts 11. He stood before Herod Agrippa preaching the gospel and Jesus Christ. Herod Agrippa now asked him if he hope he could make him a Christian.
This was Paul's response
Acts 26 27 king Agrippa, do you believe the prophets? I know you do.”
28 Then Agrippa said to Paul, “Do you think that in such a short time you can persuade me to be a Christian?”
29 Paul replied, “Short time or long—I pray to God that not only you but all who are listening to me today may become what I am, except for these chains.”
So how this conversation connotes paganism is beyond me. Atheist will do anything to win an argument. Just like you ran away from our argument when you've been caught out |
Christianity Etc › Re: The Book Of Bible Gaffes by jaephoenix(op): 5:42pm On Apr 28, 2023 |
OLAADEGBU: You forgot to post the link you copied these supposed contradictions from. Here is a link that takes you out of your misery: I know you have reading disability. I said it here up to 3 times that I copied it, and some were my personal research, especially later ones. And my source wasn't from one place, moronnn. And whats more, that wasn't where I copied it |
Christianity Etc › Re: The Book Of Bible Gaffes by jaephoenix(op): 5:39pm On Apr 28, 2023 |
TenQ: I don't drink, you're wrong again.
Are you still dazed? You're so daft you don't even know what punch drunk is? I thought u said you're a former boxer? Was that a lie too, like the other ones? |
Christianity Etc › Re: The Book Of Bible Gaffes by jaephoenix(op): 5:37pm On Apr 28, 2023 |
TenQ: The story of creation is known by all the ancients who kept a history of their genealogy. Over time, every culture distorted or even sometimes completely lost the original story. The version of Moses was that as passed through his lineage who was still faithfully committed to the Creator through Abraham. Many ancient cultures still had the story of the flood of Noah with characters changed, storyline changed and purpose changed.
So, other than creation, I've even given you that of the great flood. Lemme break this down. Maybe you're still punch drunk  NOBODY WAS AROUND WHEN YAHWEH CREATED THE WORLD, AND IN FACT, WRITING WASNT IN EXISTENCE THEN. SO WHO FIRST WROTE DOWN THE STORY OF CREATION? WHO GAVE THAT PERSON THE HISTORY? |
Christianity Etc › Re: What Is The Best Argument For The Existence Of God? by jaephoenix(m): 5:29pm On Apr 28, 2023 |
[quote author=OLAADEGBU post=122807775][/quote]Is tht all you have to say for your lie and deception |
Christianity Etc › Re: What Is The Best Argument For The Existence Of God? by jaephoenix(m): 4:57pm On Apr 28, 2023 |
[quote author=OLAADEGBU post=122807458][/quote]Bro, nobody said we evolved from a fish |
Christianity Etc › Re: What Is The Best Argument For The Existence Of God? by jaephoenix(m): 4:56pm On Apr 28, 2023 |
OLAADEGBU: Google is your friend. Exactly what I expected. You don't know it, but you throw the word around. SMH |
Christianity Etc › Re: What Is The Best Argument For The Existence Of God? by jaephoenix(m): 4:55pm On Apr 28, 2023 |
[quote author=OLAADEGBU post=122807285][/quote]Actually the human brain is vast but wasn't very intelligently designed. There's a vast area there without any information stored. And it loses data. Neuroscience is still searching why there is so much empty areas |
Christianity Etc › Re: What Is The Best Argument For The Existence Of God? by jaephoenix(m): 4:53pm On Apr 28, 2023 |
[quote author=OLAADEGBU post=122807264][/quote]THAT POST WAS A LIE. AND ONLY CAME OUT AFTER PASTEUR'S DEATH AS STATED BY HIS GRANDSON WHO KNOWS HIM
The Literary Digest of 18 October 1902 gives this statement from Pasteur that he prayed while he worked:
Posterity will one day laugh at the foolishness of modern materialistic philosophers. The more I study nature, the more I stand amazed at the work of the Creator. I pray while I am engaged at my work in the laboratory.
Maurice Vallery-Radot, grandson of the brother of the son-in-law of Pasteur and outspoken Catholic, also holds that Pasteur fundamentally remained Catholic.[188] According to both Pasteur Vallery-Radot and Maurice Vallery-Radot, the following well-known quotation attributed to Pasteur is apocryphal:[189] "The more I know, the more nearly is my faith that of the Breton peasant. Could I but know all I would have the faith of a Breton peasant's wife".[18] According to Maurice Vallery-Radot,[190] the false quotation appeared for the first time shortly after the death of Pasteur.[191] However, despite his belief in God, it has been said that his views were that of a freethinker rather than a Catholic, a spiritual more than a religious man.[192][193] He was also against mixing science with religion.
I suggest you research on these posts before posting them here. Yes I know you hate researching since its forcing you to think but not doing so is exposing your ignorance more and more |
Christianity Etc › Re: What Is The Best Argument For The Existence Of God? by jaephoenix(m): 4:45pm On Apr 28, 2023 |
OLAADEGBU: Some of the brightest scientific minds we have ever known all believed in God, and the science behind Creation. Yet, keyboard evolutionists accuse us of not understanding science. We do! And so did they. Real, observable, testable science.
Source Out of those 3, Kepler was the only one with a belief nearer to Christianity. He was a Lutheran. Galileo had to profess catholism because his life was at stake. The Great Inquisition would kill any non catholic. Just the fact that his research then said the earth was spherical, which was contrary to the church belief, made them give him a death sentence which was commuted to life long house arrest(because he had friends there) https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5871402/#:~:text=Galileo%20suffered%20through%20the%20humiliation,fascinating%20beauty%20of%20God's%20creation. About Newton I have posted his belief here. Dude wasn't a Christian. Take your lies elsewhere |
Christianity Etc › Re: Why Churches Are Very Useless by jaephoenix(m): 4:30pm On Apr 28, 2023 |
1Sharon: So you're saying the OP's uncle was doing something wrong, which is? Not enough faith  |
Christianity Etc › Re: Why Churches Are Very Useless by jaephoenix(m): 4:29pm On Apr 28, 2023 |
coputa: You are spiritually blind. Is that the answer to my question? When its crunch time to explain the inadequacies in christianity, chrissies like these Coputa and Westerhoffe adopt an aggressive and nebulous pose. It doesn't take much to know they don't know the answer  |
Christianity Etc › Re: Why Churches Are Very Useless by jaephoenix(m): 4:27pm On Apr 28, 2023 |
Westerhoffe: Dodging what questions? Don't tell me that again all because you're trying to act, look or sound invasive. Do I stay on the Forum all day?
If someone is so dumb to not know the difference between a spiritual illness (spiritual attack) and a physical/health failure kind of sickness, then I have nothing to explain to such a person.
You don't need to ask me. Wait till you experience one, then you'd need no one to tell you what and how it is and goes. Are you saying you don't recognize such spiritual illnesses? Yes or no. If you do, explain them. Like I said, I haven't. You weren't born into this world with the power to recognize 'spiritual' illnesses. You were taught. So please teach an ignorant soul like mine |
Christianity Etc › Re: Why Churches Are Very Useless by jaephoenix(m): 4:25pm On Apr 28, 2023 |
Westerhoffe: Staged miracles? I'm not that daft to believe or not recognise staged miracles. I'm not talking of staged miracles here. I'm talking of real miracles.
Miracles are not done for show offs, OK? Miracles are not to prove you wrong. When GOD is in action to prove His presence, what will be done will be done. How do you recognize a true miracle |
Christianity Etc › Re: Warning To Born Again Christians And Pastors Who Became Athiest by jaephoenix(m): 4:24pm On Apr 28, 2023 |
FxMasterz: It wasn't your question okay? So, stay in your lane. Ok bro |
Christianity Etc › Re: Warning To Born Again Christians And Pastors Who Became Athiest by jaephoenix(m): 4:24pm On Apr 28, 2023 |
FxMasterz: Point of correction.
I don't deal with cases. I'm not a physician.
I'm talking about events triggered as a direct response to prayers prayed for an individual by the laying on of hands. Psychotic cases are triggered by such. And we use antipsychotics for them |
Christianity Etc › Re: Warning To Born Again Christians And Pastors Who Became Athiest by jaephoenix(m): 4:23pm On Apr 28, 2023 |
FxMasterz: Except you've seen truly, you can keep deceiving yourself. The things of the spirit are deception to carnal people like you |
Christianity Etc › Re: Warning To Born Again Christians And Pastors Who Became Athiest by jaephoenix(m): 4:06pm On Apr 28, 2023 |
FxMasterz: First you need to understand that the Spiritual things answer to spiritual principles.
Power comes by association with God. Praying, studying the word and fasting. That's all. Anyone can have the power of God.
But applying the power answers to principles. These principles are knowledge based. Without knowledge, you could destroy yourself. I think that happened to one Silas whose posts I read here a few days ago.
Knowledge is what strikes the balance. God's word says '"My people perish for lack of knowledge."
Knowledge is more important than power, but people seek power without seeking knowledge and so the power is of little use to them. You still ended up not answering his question  |
Christianity Etc › Re: Warning To Born Again Christians And Pastors Who Became Athiest by jaephoenix(m): 3:54pm On Apr 28, 2023 |
FxMasterz: Demons are spirit beings. Physical eyes can't see or touch spirits. The earlier you know this, the better.
When a demon is talking through a person, he first identifies himself by many physical changes in the person's comportment.
A woman would sometimes speak with a very deep voice of a man.
A supposedly gentle and god-fearing woman would begin to be extraordinarily violent and blaspheme the way you guys do. She begins to speak about unseen things. She could tell you she's 4,000yrs old, and begin telling you histories of thousands of years ago. Your ears would hear weird things.
After all that is done and the demon is cast out, the woman comes back to herself without realizing what happened. She can't remember saying any of those weird things. She won't even remember turning violent. She might pick herself up from the floor and be wondering why she was on the floor.
I had an experience with a woman possessed of water spirits in 2017. It's one of the most tragic demonic manifestations I've ever seen. I myself was afraid for the woman during the prayers. Her chest was expanding and contracting like a balloon as I prayed. She didn't talk weird though, just pleading that I shouldn't cast her out because the woman has a covenant with her.
I've seen so much since I started walking with God. Have you seen psychotic cases or people on substance abuse? |
Christianity Etc › Re: Warning To Born Again Christians And Pastors Who Became Athiest by jaephoenix(m): 3:52pm On Apr 28, 2023 |
FxMasterz: I wasn't saved to see demons. So, seeing demons is not the issue as far as knowing God is concerned.
I've had the chance to pray for people and hear demons speak through them. I've seen women take on superhuman strengths during prayers so much so that one woman wouldn't be subdued by four men holding her down. I've seen so much more.
But most importantly, I've met Jesus, He's more real to me than this couch I'm sitting on. Whoa. I have seen trees bow down to the Flying Spaghetti Monster. All glory to him |
Christianity Etc › Re: What Is The Best Argument For The Existence Of God? by jaephoenix(m): 2:20pm On Apr 28, 2023 |
OLAADEGBU: Let the late Sir Fred Hoyle answer you. 
Source This is the dumbest post ever. I researched about your Sir Fred Hoyle and found this…. In his later years, Hoyle became a staunch critic of theories of abiogenesis to explain the origin of life on Earth. With Chandra Wickramasinghe, Hoyle promoted the hypothesis that the first life on Earth began in space, spreading through the universe via panspermia, and that evolution on Earth is influenced by a steady influx of viruses arriving via comets. He never condemned evolution. Besides, he was an atheist. You like using lies to promote christianity. Why? By the way, I told you humans grow tails in the womb which later regress. I'm sure you haven't checked it out. You prefer to stick to your lies |
Christianity Etc › Re: What Is The Best Argument For The Existence Of God? by jaephoenix(m): 2:10pm On Apr 28, 2023 |
OLAADEGBU: That’s your home work. Go find out.  Why do you people shift the burden of proof on us when you have been caught out? Aren't tired of the deception? |
Christianity Etc › Re: What Is The Best Argument For The Existence Of God? by jaephoenix(m): 2:09pm On Apr 28, 2023 |
OLAADEGBU: What prevents you from lying? Are you saying you are not pro-abortion?  I'm not. But even the most anti-abortionists have cases they draw the line. There are cases you have to abort a baby to save the mothers life |
Christianity Etc › Re: What Is The Best Argument For The Existence Of God? by jaephoenix(m): 2:07pm On Apr 28, 2023 |
OLAADEGBU: That is oxymoron.  Do you know what an oxymoron is? |
Christianity Etc › Re: Warning To Born Again Christians And Pastors Who Became Athiest by jaephoenix(m): 2:06pm On Apr 28, 2023 |
FxMasterz: Thank you. At least you now see something. Someday you'll see clearer. I see clearer than you. I even see what your Yahweh intended to do |
Christianity Etc › Re: Warning To Born Again Christians And Pastors Who Became Athiest by jaephoenix(m): 2:05pm On Apr 28, 2023 |
FxMasterz: This should be a personal discovery. Kindly do your own research. They are the same to me. That's why I'm asking you |
Christianity Etc › Re: Warning To Born Again Christians And Pastors Who Became Athiest by jaephoenix(m): 2:04pm On Apr 28, 2023 |
FxMasterz: Oh, sorry about that? What was the question again? I probably missed the question. This is his question LoLz. So you can see the demons or you just saying what you think you understand? |
Christianity Etc › Re: Why Churches Are Very Useless by jaephoenix(m): 2:02pm On Apr 28, 2023 |
northbird: It's pointless instructing you. Before I leave.
Motorcycle
Motorcar
Aeroplane.
Different machines,but they all move.. Different capacities.. your faith can be compared as this, there are different degrees to the level of your faith . The level of your faith determines the kind of engagements you have with the supernatural. So in other words, no amputee in the whole wide world has enough faith to be healed, yet other people with different diseases can be healed based on their faith. Is that right? |
Christianity Etc › Re: Why Churches Are Very Useless by jaephoenix(m): 2:01pm On Apr 28, 2023 |
coputa: Spiritual means things and event that takes place in the spirit realm(unseen). Spiritual growth means to be aware and sensitive to things that takes place in the spiritual realm. The importance of spiritual growth can not be overemphasize,it build your inner being and makes you activated to spiritual matters.Although a non believer will not understand this, but a true christian does. So none of the advantages can be visualized? |
Christianity Etc › Re: Why Churches Are Very Useless by jaephoenix(m): 2:00pm On Apr 28, 2023 |
northbird: You did actually by saying the centurion only asked. And I'm telling you, the faith component was the game changer. When did I say anything about op not having enough faith ? I'm not you folks. Lol. Did you read the comments of your fellow chrissies? So how did u determine the 'faith component' of the centurion? |
Christianity Etc › Re: Warning To Born Again Christians And Pastors Who Became Athiest by jaephoenix(m): 1:58pm On Apr 28, 2023 |
FxMasterz: My own parents were Muslims before they met Jesus. I personally took time to do my own research, find the truth by myself and stand true to it. I didn't get here by accident. So what is the difference between Islam and Christianity |
Christianity Etc › Re: Warning To Born Again Christians And Pastors Who Became Athiest by jaephoenix(m): 1:56pm On Apr 28, 2023 |
FxMasterz: That's the same response a blind man would give you when you talk to him about the man which he can never see or feel.
You can't see what I see become u have sights while you lack it. May God heal your soul. I see the Holy Limbs of Flying Spaghetti Monster in your life. Give in to him now or burn forever. You can't see what I see become u have sights while you lack it. May Flying Spaghetti Monster heal your soul |