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Christianity Etc › Re: Grandma With Dementia Never Forgets To Praise God by jaephoenix(m): 2:35pm On Mar 16, 2023
OLAADEGBU:
Since you are the one who started using abusive language why were you not comfortable when he started paying you back in your own coin? undecided
Can you point out where I first started using abusive language, sire
Christianity Etc › Re: Homosexuality: They May Not Be Hurting Anyone, But They Are Hurting The Environ. by jaephoenix(m): 2:34pm On Mar 16, 2023
Dtruthspeaker:
That is why God is a better Judge for He both The Judge and The Maker of the woman in issue Thus, He is perfectly seized with all the facts which would sway judgement one way or the other in the case
What a load of gibberish!
Again I ask. Have cosmetic surgeons committed any sin by performing a vaginoplasty or vaginal reconstruction(in case you're too dense to know what it is) on somebody with genital ambiguity? Its a yes or no question, sire
Christianity Etc › Re: Homosexuality: They May Not Be Hurting Anyone, But They Are Hurting The Environ. by jaephoenix(m): 2:32pm On Mar 16, 2023
Dtruthspeaker:
New testament does not mean different testament. It means Restatement of the old testamen. Everything in the old is in the new except for the agency enforcement for the only people who can enforce The Commandment is one who is holy aka "he who has no sin".

So now, the enforcement returns to God.

Which is why no Christian will kill you today but we will pray for God to kill you in enforcement of His Laws!
Lawag3
Christianity Etc › Re: Homosexuality: They May Not Be Hurting Anyone, But They Are Hurting The Environ. by jaephoenix(m): 2:31pm On Mar 16, 2023
Dtruthspeaker:
New testament does not mean different testament. It means Restatement of the old testamen. Everything in the old is in the new except for the agency enforcement for the only people who can enforce The Commandment is one who is holy aka "he who has no sin".

So now, the enforcement returns to God.

Which is why no Christian will kill you today but we will pray for God to kill you in enforcement of His Laws!
1. I doubt if you have engaged in any logical reasoning in your life. Where specifically was it stated in the New Testament for Yahweh to murder people? That is basically the difference between the New and Old Testaments. And so, the New Testament cannot mirror the contents of the Old
2. Lol. At the bolded, is there death sentence for atheists in the Old Testament?
Christianity Etc › Re: Hardmirror's PROOF That CHRISTIANS Don't Trust God by jaephoenix(m): 2:24pm On Mar 16, 2023
Dtruthspeaker:
Yes! But it is none of your business.
Well, if you say he answers all your prayers, then I can safely deduce you love the way the country is, and it pleases you to see millions groaning under hunger and poverty, and dying of preventable diseases grin
Because you would have chipped it into your prayers so your sky daddy can help out
Christianity Etc › Re: Jesus Christ Was Chosen Even Before Adam's Sin. God Does Not Make Mistakes by jaephoenix(m): 2:20pm On Mar 16, 2023
Dtruthspeaker:
Jw devil has come with his madness and now even blasphemy has entered. Ah jw don kill you finish. Max, Aemyjah, see your end.
Lawag3
Christianity Etc › Re: Jesus Christ Was Chosen Even Before Adam's Sin. God Does Not Make Mistakes by jaephoenix(m): 2:19pm On Mar 16, 2023
Dtruthspeaker:
Mad twisted wish fuelled delusions of a condemned criminal.

"Denying The Truth, does not change The Truth"

Everyone knows that Peter was talking about Christ's coming to send us back to The Way God had set for when He created us.

But herecomes the criminal who because of your fullness of sins is now trying to stretch it out of proportions even to the pre Adam stage.

No how much you twist the Bible, your sins won't be washed away and you would still remain a condemned soul.
Lawag3
Christianity Etc › Re: Jesus Christ Was Chosen Even Before Adam's Sin. God Does Not Make Mistakes by jaephoenix(m): 2:19pm On Mar 16, 2023
tctrills:
Did God expect Adam to fall? Yes. Just the same way he knows that we all would fall in sin at one point or the other. That was why he provided a way even before the creation of the world.
1 Peter 1:19-20

19 But with the precious blood of Christ, as of a lamb without blemish and without spot:

20 Who verily was foreordained before the foundation of the world, but was manifest in these last times for you,

Rev. 13. 8 And all that dwell upon the earth shall worship him, whose names are not written in the book of life of the Lamb slain from the foundation of the world.

Without Adam, there would be not Christ and Savior.
Without Christ, we can't go back to God.
He knew Adam would fall but still went ahead to plant the forbidden tree right in the middle of the garden, with the best fruits? Really?
Christianity Etc › Re: Grandma With Dementia Never Forgets To Praise God by jaephoenix(m): 2:17pm On Mar 16, 2023
OLAADEGBU:
Why not finish what you started? undecided
Maybe you love engaging ignoramuses who don't contribute to discourse but instead engage in insult merchandising. I don't. If you have something ro contribute, please do. If not, have a great day too
Christianity Etc › Re: Been A Gay Is Natural by jaephoenix(m):
Techobeys:
Yes it’s natural. Cheating is natural. Stealing is natural. Is natural for politicians to be corrupt. Violence is natural and this is a psychological fact. Its both inherited and learned.

Why do people get punished for violence? So you see why wanting to establish gay is stupid? Unless we’ll allow violence to be accepted as natural then we cannot allow gay to stay either. If you want to fight for gay to stay, then fight for violence to be accepted. People can’t help it either.

Otherwise you’re not serious.
Who said stealing, cheating, violence are natural?
Some people who steal may be kleptomaniac, which is a mental disease. Same as violent people. Some can be manic diseases. But none of them are normal.
They aint the same as homosexuality.
Get a grip Techobeys. Continue your crappy Youtube channels and leave cerebral discourses alone
Christianity Etc › Re: Been A Gay Is Natural by jaephoenix(m): 9:50am On Mar 16, 2023
triplechoice:
I never said theist are not homophobic. Please take your time to read what I posted once again and understand it very well before replying.

What you highlighted, in case you don't understand it, simply means religion is not the main reason why most people are homophobic.

My argument is that. ignorant and intolerant people hide behind it to express hatred for others.

Modified. When I mentioned China and Russia,, I was focused mainly on both government's attitude towards the LGBT community and not those of their citizens. Please try to know the difference

Also, there's no evidence that Africa was, according to you, "immersed"in homosexuality before the coming of the whites. There may have been few instances of individuals involved in that,. but not enough to conclude it was common.

The large population we have everywhere in Africa does not support what you declared. Homosexuals don't procreate. I hope you know what that means?

Finally, please provide the source for the stats that only 1% of atheists are not pro gay. I'm much interested in that.one.

You must realise that atheists. are not the only ones who. are pro gay. Some religious people are even pro gay too.

So, there's nothing special or unique about it. Anyone can get involve

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.rferl.org/amp/russia-parliament-law-banning-lgbt-propaganda-adults/32146774.html
1. Africa was a hotbed of homosexuality.
The (Yoruba), the word for “homosexual” is adofuro, a colloquialism for someone who has anal sex. It might sound insulting and derogatory, however, the point is there is a word for the behaviour. Moreover, this is not a new word; it is as old as the Yoruba culture itself.

In the northern part of Nigeria, yan daudu is a Hausa term to described effeminate men who are considered to be wives to men. While the Yoruba word might be more about behaviour than identity, this Hausa term is more about identity. You have to look and act like a yan daudu to be called one. It is not an identity you can just carry. These words are neutral; they are not infused with hate or disgust.

Barack Obama tells African states to abandon anti-gay discrimination
In the Buganda Kingdom, part of modern-day Uganda, King Mwanga II was openly gay and faced no hate from his subjects until white men brought the Christian church and its condemnation. Though King Mwanga is the most prominent African recorded as being openly gay, he was not alone.In Boy-Wives and Female Husbands, a book examining homosexuality and feminism in Africa, the researchers found ‘‘explicit” Bushman artwork that depicts men engaging in same-sex sexual activity. There have been other indicators that the transition from boyhood to adulthood within many African ethnic groups involved same-sex sexual activities. Also pre-Pyramid paintings in ancient Egypt depict gay men entwined and kissing

2. Maybe ignorant people hide behind religion to exhibit homophobia
Christianity Etc › Re: Been A Gay Is Natural by jaephoenix(m): 1:39am On Mar 16, 2023
Aemmyjah:
How does feeding oneself nourish another na?
You called me a selfish ape, I think about myself only. And I pointed out to you, that even the food your child or wife eats nourishes it or her own body, and not yours. When you eat your own food, it nourishes only you
Christianity Etc › Re: ************************** by jaephoenix(m): 1:30am On Mar 16, 2023
guysbewise:
The dick one and peeps spewing cash, I don't believe such until it can be done live.

But I now believe there are some people with evil divination spirits and they can monitor and control the mind of someone anywhere they are in the world
Any evidence of this?
Christianity Etc › Re: The Eternal Synagogue Of The Civilized (atheist Movement) by jaephoenix(m): 1:29am On Mar 16, 2023
Dtruthspeaker:
You said it the word is "could" but is it? No. The mannequin has and must have one creator and 1 owner.
How do you know this?
Christianity Etc › Re: The Eternal Synagogue Of The Civilized (atheist Movement) by jaephoenix(m): 1:28am On Mar 16, 2023
Dtruthspeaker:
You must be an imbēcile to imagine that a House would build itself.
Since you believe your god can pop outta nowhere, then I can believe the universe can pop outta nowhere
Christianity Etc › Re: The Eternal Synagogue Of The Civilized (atheist Movement) by jaephoenix(m): 1:18am On Mar 16, 2023
Aemmyjah:
I meant the designs of the body which include cells, organs and systems ad how they are coordinated
You mention diseases
I hope you know a poorly coordinated cell, tissue or organ can cause disease. How do you think cancers, autoimmune diseases start?
Christianity Etc › Re: The Eternal Synagogue Of The Civilized (atheist Movement) by jaephoenix(m): 1:13am On Mar 16, 2023
Aemmyjah:
The evidence is clear and all around ya
Na lie. You won't dodge another of my question again.
Aemmyjah
As a fellow mannequin like me that have limited reasoning , how did you comprehend
A) that such a god exists
B) the attributes of such a god

I believe you are a graduate since you told us you are a biologist(even though you are poor in biology questions)so please look at those 2 questions and list your answers
Thank you
Christianity Etc › Re: Brazil's Satanic Carnival That Mock Jesus And Gods Responds To Them by jaephoenix(m): 1:09am On Mar 16, 2023
Ken4Christ:
There are many who read the Bible but only very few studies it.

Read below what the Bible said;

Genesis 9:15
And I will remember my covenant, which is between me and you and every living creature of all flesh; and the waters shall no more become a flood TO DESTROY ALL FLESH.

The verse above said there will not be flood to destroy ALL FLESH.

It never said there will not be flood to destroy flesh. The keyword is ALL FLESH.

And it is even based on the condition that the rainbow appear. When last did you see a rainbow?
1. I can infer that Yahweh is test driving his killer floods on Brazil, and then later use it on ALL FLESH.
2. Bros, why are you theists this ignorant? Rainbows are common phenomena. Its an arch of colours visible in the sky, caused by the refraction and dispersion of the sun's light by rain or other water droplets in the atmosphere. So if light meets these requirements, rainbows can be formed. In fact, in some locations on Earth, you can easily see rainbows
https://www.yourweather.co.uk/news/science/where-is-the-best-place-in-the-world-for-rainbows-hawaii.html#:~:text=According%20to%20a%20new%20paper,the%20best%20rainbows%20on%20Earth.&text=Hawaii%27s%20mountains%20are%20another%20factor,forms%20clouds%20and%20produces%20rainfall.
Christianity Etc › Re: If Jesus Christ Was God, Why Did He Find Fault With Some Old Testament Laws? by jaephoenix(m): 1:02am On Mar 16, 2023
Lawag3:
If I told you. You won't believe me .

Have you ever had an out of body experience?
No I haven't. You know why I don't believe all those stories? Because people lie a lot. Its a normal human trait. And that is why science is based on evidence and not the testimonies of Lawag3 or other humans. Sometimes it may not be a lie. It may be an 'experience' they had due to mental illness or drugs. Which still doesn't make it legit. Another reason is people give varying wild out of body experience stories. And since nobody can verify that, then it would be just another Snow White and the 7 Dwarves
Christianity Etc › Re: Homosexuality: They May Not Be Hurting Anyone, But They Are Hurting The Environ. by jaephoenix(m): 12:56am On Mar 16, 2023
Lawag3:
Nope. but he can air his views. He can tell us why he thinks Christianity is false then we can have a discussion .
So you won't allow a Muslim to preach in your congregation but you'll allow a gay to express their grievances?
Christianity Etc › Re: Homosexuality: They May Not Be Hurting Anyone, But They Are Hurting The Environ. by jaephoenix(m): 12:53am On Mar 16, 2023
Lawag3:
Yes he knows every possible outcome it's like knowing knowing everything you can possibly do but he gives you free will to choose what to do. He knows what will happen to you if you do a thing and knows what will happen if you don't do it he just gives you the right to either do it or not

That's the definition of All knowing
Its like you don't even understand what omniscient means. You christians go about calling Yahweh every imaginable name without knowing the meaning.
Omniscient means knowing everything.
Everything. That means every available knowledge, both of events that happened in the beginning of life, and the events that would happen in the end of life. Do you now understand? Good.
Now how can a god that has all the knowledge regret his actions, or change his mind? Isn't he supposed to know what the reaction to his initial action would be?
Lemme break it down(cos some of you theists are thicker than bricks)
If I know that if I marry a wife that she would stab me, why would I marry her and regret it down the road?
Now Yahweh made Saul king and later regretted it(as evidenced in those Bible verses). So he didn't know Saul would Bleep up? If you insist that he knew Saul would Bleep up but still went ahead to ordain him, then you have shot yourself in the foot, because
1. He showing Samuel he makes poor judgment
2. He is endangering the kingdom
3. He is showing he's just another bumbling dunce since he regrets his action.
An omniscient god isn't supposed to regret or change his mind. That's a human quality
Christianity Etc › Re: Homosexuality: They May Not Be Hurting Anyone, But They Are Hurting The Environ. by jaephoenix(m): 12:41am On Mar 16, 2023
Dtruthspeaker:
Exodus 23:7

Meaning the guilty and the unrighteous can be killed.
Get it right. I'm talking about the New Testament. Was there anywhere Yahweh ordered anyone killed
Christianity Etc › Re: Homosexuality: They May Not Be Hurting Anyone, But They Are Hurting The Environ. by jaephoenix(m): 12:40am On Mar 16, 2023
Dtruthspeaker:
It is not a yes or no answer because cases are judged case by case. Thus in one case he may be guilty eg the surgeon who changed bobrisky to a woman and in another case he may not eg the one who smoothens a burning victim's skin
What about cosmetic surgeons that performed a vaginoplasty on a patient with genital ambiguity?
Christianity Etc › Re: Garden Of Eden Finally Located. by jaephoenix(m): 12:37am On Mar 16, 2023
Techobeys:
Do you think you can be educated in one minuets? Why don’t you subscribe to the channel and when the full video comes out and you don’t get educated then unsubscribe.

Let’s try to be realistic sometimes.
There's nothing in your vlog that is educative. This is the third time you're coercing me to watch your tripe. And it would be the last time. You can't even properly analyze the buybull you say you preach, talk less of engaging an atheist
Christianity Etc › Re: Hardmirror's PROOF That CHRISTIANS Don't Trust God by jaephoenix(m): 12:22am On Mar 16, 2023
Dtruthspeaker:
This is off point. It really is not your business if others have had their prayers answered and yours was not.

So you all with unanswered prayers can pack on one side.
Has Yahweh been answering your prayers? cheesy
Christianity Etc › Re: Hardmirror's PROOF That CHRISTIANS Don't Trust God by jaephoenix(m): 12:21am On Mar 16, 2023
HardMirror:
oh ok. cheesy. So why did you say there was not a chace for me to confirm the osogbo story pastor Jo claimed happened?
Easy. The said event never happened and the Joagbaje dude knows it
Christianity Etc › Re: They Lied! Brazil Flood Wasn't Because Of The Demonic Carnival Parade! by jaephoenix(m): 12:19am On Mar 16, 2023
Arisenews2:
So, there've been this story making the rounds on social that the people of BRAZIL mocked God at the Rio De Janeiro carnival parade of 2023, and the wrath of God descended on them like it did to the city of Sodom and Gomorrah. The story has it that seven days after mocking God, their city was hit with an intense rainfall that have caused landslides, floods, among other events. and several persons have lost their lives and properties, and it's also been speculated that the man who played the role of Satan defeating Jesus died in a car crash few days after playing such a blasphemous role.

And it's also believed that Seven days before the carnival, a strange “lightning” struck the Christ the Redeemer statue in Rio De Janeiro, same city where the carnival would later take place Seven days after, which to many was a sign of God's warning.

It might interest you to know that the cities where this flood which has reportedly killed over 40 people and displaced over 800 people happened is totally different from the city where the blasphemous carnival parade took place and These cities have been plagued by this flood even before the carnival and we shall be telling you which is which in the course of the video!


So, the question is, Would God punish innocent people who didn't mock him and spare the ones who truly did?
See what truly happened in the video below

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cfyD1DEPMcc
I have already disputed this lie(Yahweh induced flooding) earlier in a previous post. Christianity would go to any extent to strengthen their lie of a religion
Christianity Etc › Re: Garden Of Eden Finally Located. by jaephoenix(m): 12:16am On Mar 16, 2023
Techobeys:
In this video, we have explored the garden of Eden to find where it actually is. Kindly watch and share

where is Garden of Eden? FINALLY REVEALED! #biblestudy
https://youtube.com/shorts/MaZoyUrGMS4?feature=share
What a clickbait! And I thought I was even going to hear something educative. Only to hear busllhit like 'This is the only world created by God' and 'Garden of Eden isn't a particular place'
Christianity Etc › Re: Atheist Are Too Overreliant On Science With Respect to Homosexuality. by jaephoenix(m): 5:01pm On Mar 15, 2023
Wilgrea7:
Exactly.. I'm aware that people could feel these emotions. Although i tend to be wary of classifying these as 'love' mainly because at such a young age, we barely understand what love is, or what the different emotions we begin to feel mean. But i do see your point.



While I'm not sure of this, i think it could be related to the males having lower levels of testosterone, or the females having lower levels of estrogen and higher testosterone.

And while these could make a case for the "born this way" example, I'm still aware of ladies and guys in said categories who grew up and still turned out straight and in some cases, should i say "balanced" the hormones due to their lifestyle choices (weight lifting, diets etc).

But then again, I'm not completely sure about things like this.



True. I tend to look at things like environment, and even genetics like in the example i gave, as factors, and not necessarily determinants.

Just as they say smoking could lead to lung cancer. My grandfather smoked all his life and lived into his 90s. Some people smoke and die before 40.

As i was typing this, there was something else which came to mind. That in the event where something like homosexuality were shown to have genetic influence, whether or not it would affect its acceptace.

As an example, we see people, by virtue of their genetics, being at greater risk to certain cancers or other conditions. However, we try to 'help' these people by suggesting lifestyle decisions that'll lower their risk of developing said conditions.

I wonder if homosexuality would be treated in the same way, where we would acknowledge the genetic influences, but still deem it as wrong and try to "help" the affected parties and prevent them from eventually turning out that way.

Now this is certainly not the view I hold, but it just popped into my head while writing this, and i thought it would be an interesting thing to think about.
@ italicized, Yeah, you're right, love isn't the correct word. Maybe attraction

@bolded, No. Testosterone or any hormone doesn't control sexuality, or behavior. Only anatomical, biochemical and physiological attributes. Testesterone controls sexual drive in both sexes. Males have more, more than 20x females, thus more sex urge than females
Christianity Etc › Re: Atheist Are Too Overreliant On Science With Respect to Homosexuality. by jaephoenix(m): 4:58pm On Mar 15, 2023
Wilgrea7:
Exactly.. I'm aware that people could feel these emotions. Although i tend to be wary of classifying these as 'love' mainly because at such a young age, we barely understand what love is, or what the different emotions we begin to feel mean. But i do see your point.

Yeah, you're right, love isn't the correct word. Maybe attraction



While I'm not sure of this, i think it could be related to the males having lower levels of testosterone, or the females having lower levels of estrogen and higher testosterone.

No. Testosterone or any hormone doesn't control sexuality, or behavior. Only anatomical, biochemical and physiological attributes. Testesterone controls sexual drive in both sexes. Males have more, more than 20x females, thus more sex urge than females

And while these could make a case for the "born this way" example, I'm still aware of ladies and guys in said categories who grew up and still turned out straight and in some cases, should i say "balanced" the hormones due to their lifestyle choices (weight lifting, diets etc).

But then again, I'm not completely sure about things like this.



True. I tend to look at things like environment, and even genetics like in the example i gave, as factors, and not necessarily determinants.

Just as they say smoking could lead to lung cancer. My grandfather smoked all his life and lived into his 90s. Some people smoke and die before 40.

As i was typing this, there was something else which came to mind. That in the event where something like homosexuality were shown to have genetic influence, whether or not it would affect its acceptace.

As an example, we see people, by virtue of their genetics, being at greater risk to certain cancers or other conditions. However, we try to 'help' these people by suggesting lifestyle decisions that'll lower their risk of developing said conditions.

I wonder if homosexuality would be treated in the same way, where we would acknowledge the genetic influences, but still deem it as wrong and try to "help" the affected parties and prevent them from eventually turning out that way.

Now this is certainly not the view I hold, but it just popped into my head while writing this, and i thought it would be an interesting thing to think about.

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