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Christianity EtcRe: Been A Gay Is Natural by jaephoenix(m): 12:39am On Mar 08, 2023
Hashabiah:
Shut up .

1. LGBTQ already in the curriculum of all school in the west and that's because the LGBTQ community sponsors most Democrats and their electors. This is not a conspiracy theory and it is something you can check up on online.

2. You're deviating from the topic by bring in fallacies that arent even logically connected to the discussion

3. Where is the common theme that Christians and Muslims have ?

4. You're not a doctor ; you're just an idle troll with a penchant for illogical banter. No doctor I know will accept the idea that men are homosexuals by birth because that even goes against the laws of medical genetics and neurological biochemistry
1. LGBTQ content aren't in all school curricula, and the content there wasn't fitted there by LGBTQ. It was done by governments. Even if LGBTQ lobbied with unlimited sums of money, if their aim runs contrary to the Constitutions, it won't fly in their respective senates or parliament. Thus it means their agitations are legit.

2. I'm pointing out that the copulations of gay couples don't bother nobody. That's the point of this analogy

3. Did you read my point, or are you on auto-repeat mode? I said they have similar qualities. I didn't say they have the same god.

4. I'm not here to prove my profession. Its irrelevant to this discourse.
We know people exhibit homosexual tendencies from birth. Unfortunately I'm not responsible for your ignorance. You should hold your schools or your lack of cognitive reasoning responsible. You have no idea of medical genetics or neuro-biochemistry. So get the Bleep outta my sight
Christianity EtcRe: Been A Gay Is Natural by jaephoenix(m): 1:14pm On Mar 07, 2023
Hashabiah:
The authors you brought up were actually practicing homosexuals who have written about the finding you're boasting of ,thus making their validity not only biased, but outright illogical.

Secondly, it's a known all over the "woke " culture that the LGBTQ communities fund the Democrats and their government officials, which is why you'll see those officials advocating for the acceptance of homosexuality.

Deep down , even science knows homosexuals are mentally disturbed people who need help grin
1. Which authors? You mean scientists? Scientists don't tell governments what to do? They do their researches. The government has bodies who peruse those researches and makes recommendations to the government to make laws based on those researches
2. Democrats have funding from many people not just LGBTQ. And again, democrats dont make laws themselves. Whatever recommendations have to go through the house. If the LGBTQ agitation runs afoul of the Constitution, then its eschewed. Simple. But since it doesn't run afoul of it, it is upheld
3. I don't know how you came about the bolded, but hey, I'm chatting with a theist, facts and data don't mean nothing to them
Christianity EtcRe: Been A Gay Is Natural by jaephoenix(m): 1:07pm On Mar 07, 2023
Hashabiah:
Your ignorance is on another level

1. Gay people are forcing us to accept them through the LGBTQ curriculum being taught in schools and other institutions

2. Your analogy is a fallacy that's just deviating from the discussion's core theme .

3. All theist don't believe in the same God, or is the God of the bible the same as the God of the Quran ? No ! But you didn't knoe this because if you had taken the time to study , you won't be displaying this level of ignorance on a public forum.

4. Homosexuality is a mental disorder because the bulk of the human race is largely heterosexual. Any abnormalities in nature are not regarded as the true characteristics of a species and it would be insane to accept any deviating traits in a species of animals or men as normal
Bro, your daftness is intriguing.
1. LGTBQ arent in charge of school curriculum. Its the government. And that order to change it came from their constitutions. It's not LGBTQ that changed it. Yes, they lobbied for it. But the final judgement to amend their constitutions comes from their Supreme Courts( old men and women who aren't gay), after which their constitutions are changed to capture all human rights. Then after the Constitutional change, the curriculum and other amendments are done, before it gets to textbooks. And all these people involved in this chain of events(which takes years) aren't all gay, but they have something in common: upholding human rights
2. No, its not. Read it again
3. I didn't say they believe in the same god, you dafty. I said they have a common theme. Christians believe in yahweh who has a holy figure called jesus, and they believe in a holy book called Bible. Muslims believe in allah who has a holy figure called mo, and they believe in a holy book called qoran. Etc etc. Is that too hard for you to understand?
4. Again, no we doctors don't manage homosexuals. It's not a disease. Never a disease. Its sexual preference. Just like characters. Some people are bucolic. some are introverts, others extro.
So because most people are right handed, or cannot roll their tongues, others that are left handed, or can roll their tongues are pathologic? R u sure u don't need your brain checked?
Christianity EtcRe: Been A Gay Is Natural by jaephoenix(m): 12:02pm On Mar 07, 2023
MaxInDHouse:
YES just that the society we live thinks it's odd! undecided
I don't live my life based on societal expectations. The number one person I should make happy is me
Christianity EtcRe: Been A Gay Is Natural by jaephoenix(m): 12:01pm On Mar 07, 2023
MaxInDHouse:
That the truth, i too don't fancy having children after the experience i've gathered in life so far. But the society in which we live so much believe in child rearing that's why many aren't enjoying their marriage.
What really baffles me is when gay and lesbian couples wants to have children! huh
Again, its none of your business. They wanted to give children who have been abandoned a home. Something you couldn't do
Christianity EtcRe: Been A Gay Is Natural by jaephoenix(m): 12:00pm On Mar 07, 2023
Hashabiah:
You're reading articles by authors who are homosexuals . The links you provided shows that the bulk of your authors are practicing homosexuals thus making their findings very biased grin
Whoa. Just whoa. So you found out one scientist is gay, that means all the scientists are all gays?
By the way, do you know how scientific data are obtained?
So you don't know data is testable and reproducible. Even if a scientist lied about something, the next scientist would find out.
Bro just take your L in peace
Christianity EtcRe: Atheism Is Scientism With Respect To Religion. Science Is Actually Agnostic. by jaephoenix(m): 11:56am On Mar 07, 2023
LordReed:
Of course but then how do you know?
And that is the summum bonum of all questions. How do you know?
Christianity EtcRe: Atheism Is Scientism With Respect To Religion. Science Is Actually Agnostic. by jaephoenix(m): 11:55am On Mar 07, 2023
Workch:
Scientism is an ideology that suggests that all knowledge can and should be absolutely dependent on scientific methods without considering the limitations of science with respect to many topics. Scientism with regards to atheism thinks that scientific method can determine the existence of all gods, without putting into consideration that there's a specific kind of God that is deistic that is beyond the scope of science. They also fail to realize that science is actually not interested in disproving gods, even if it tries, it can never disprove all gods, hence science is Agnostic with respect to religion.

Scientism is bad because it's

1. An inherently self-refuting philosophy.
2. Unscientific.
3. Dogmatic.

Dogmatism and science are completely antithetical to each other, so viewing science in a dogmatic way (which scientism does) completely defeats the entire purpose of the scientific method which was specifically designed to avoid dogmatism when applied correctly.

Science is aware of the limitations of the scientific method (as taught in science class). Scientism, on the other hand is not… and doesn't take those limits into account in the reasoning process when determining what is true in reality.

This leads to a plethora of logical errors, such as the unwarranted dismissal of untested / untestable claims, the dogmatic blind belief in the current consensus, it leads to Naturalistic extrapolations for whatever the scientific method can't answer, and many many more logical errors from the mis-application of the scientific method.

Honestly, I'd say scientism may be the most damaging philosophy of our time when fully & properly understood and it is what informs the philosophical choice of many atheists.

The problem is so few atheists fully & properly understand it that they conflate science with Scientism, which is precisely what results in the the numerous intellectual errors, some of which I described.

Scientism is, unfortunately, a very widespread philosophy and atheists who adhere to it are almost always unaware they are. The worst part is Scientism is a common philosophy within the scientific community itself, significantly detracting from their credibility overall.

Those who adhere to Scientism typically assume a HIGHER sense of scientific literacy for blindly believing the current consensus, when in reality that means their scientific literacy is LOWER. Science is not a body of knowledge to be blindly believed. It's a METHOD of discovery requiring no faith… including no faith in academia's current consensus.

Science is not absolute, there are many aspect of life that science cannot explain, it is why we have special fields like sociology, art and commerce that will take care of them. This doesn't mean that I believe many religious gods, I am just saying that atheists are as myopic in their views as even many religious people. Atheists are overdependent on the efficacy of science and practically worship it.


Jaephoenix LordReed Maynman unknownknown sonmvayina
What are the other methods of observing our environment
Christianity EtcRe: Are White And Blacks Created By The Same God? I Doubt. by jaephoenix(m): 11:39am On Mar 07, 2023
AbdulMagaji:
Astrologers, are they categorized as scientist too?
They arent
Christianity EtcRe: Been A Gay Is Natural by jaephoenix(m): 11:37am On Mar 07, 2023
Hashabiah:
Another stupid response that's filled with blatant ignorance. All those advocating for homosexuality are predominantly into the act and are indirectly involved it . Data reports on groups advocating and supporting homosexuality are known to be biased . Take a look at this list

https://www.childwelfare.gov/organizations/?CWIGFunctionsaction=rols:main.dspList&rolType=Custom&RS_ID=146&rList=ROL


You'll see that most of these groups have largely predominant LGBTQ supporters which are currently practicing homosexuality, thus making their findings not only questionable, but outright biased .
UK, US, NZ, Israel etc have presidents, senators, constitutions and parliaments that promote gay marriage and relationships. Going by your mentally retarded analogy, they are all gays then grin
Christianity EtcRe: Been A Gay Is Natural by jaephoenix(m): 11:35am On Mar 07, 2023
Hashabiah:
1. Why should I be forced to accept what is contrary to my system of beliefs and idealogy? Isn't that bigotry?

2. Kissing couples has absolutely nothing to do with this discussion and it's a stupid analogy to use in the defense of homosexuality

3. You don't know the differences between christians and muslims , which is why you're fitting them under the same umbrella , which is stupidity of the highest order .

Lastly , homosexuality is a mental disorder and people with such need treatment . To subscribe and condoned their behaviour is simply saying homosexuality is a natural phenomenon that can't be helped.
1. Again, nobody is forcing you to be gay. They are telling you to accept them as humans. Imagine if everyone is allowed to treat his neighbor the way their holy book prescribed. There would be chaos. Muslims would decapitate any Christian they see. I guess that's okay with you.
2. Oh yeah, kissing couples have everything to do with it. Kissing and copulating
3. They are all theists and they believe in supreme beings with a supreme messenger and a holy book. So yes, they have similarities
4. Again, homosexuality isn't a mental disorder. Google up the ICD 10, or the new ICD 11. Its not a disease. We don't manage gays
Christianity EtcRe: Been A Gay Is Natural by jaephoenix(m): 11:26am On Mar 07, 2023
MaxInDHouse:
YES!
But will you approve a marriage between your son and a lady who can't produce children? smiley
Its their choice
Christianity EtcRe: Been A Gay Is Natural by jaephoenix(m): 11:26am On Mar 07, 2023
Banilla:
There's no more to add. grin

Honestly, homosexuality isn't a choice... People who are gay say so and they know best...
Yeah. Even people that claim to have been saved, have the urge once in a while
Christianity EtcRe: Been A Gay Is Natural by jaephoenix(m): 11:24am On Mar 07, 2023
MaxInDHouse:
The highlighted has proved you wrong!

Here we are talking about creatures that are males or females in totality so back to they question:

How many animals do you know that males do mate with males to reproduce? smiley
This proves you didn't even read my link. Bro, read up and cure this ignorance that is bedevilling you
Christianity EtcRe: Been A Gay Is Natural by jaephoenix(m): 11:23am On Mar 07, 2023
Aemmyjah:
Mention one gay Animal
Wrong question.
The question you should be asking is which[b] animals aren't gay[/b]
To be honest, I haven't found any

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Homosexual_behavior_in_animals
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_animals_displaying_homosexual_behavior

You should have paid attention in biology class instead of those fasting and praying sessions
Christianity EtcRe: Been A Gay Is Natural by jaephoenix(m): 11:12am On Mar 07, 2023
Aemmyjah:
Tomorrow, if you hear a JW oblige to such obscene act, you'll start talking nonsense
Not just gay, I am not an immoral person
If a JW turns gay, of what business is that to me?
Christianity EtcRe: Been A Gay Is Natural by jaephoenix(m): 11:11am On Mar 07, 2023
Dtruthspeaker:
Pick anyone. All the score na hunger and starvation you go get las las. Even if you win, olosho go chop am run and you no go make am again till hunger decide to pity you and ki you.

And dat is after homosexuals don rape life comot for your body finish.
Do fasting and praying for Holy Vodka. Gimme odd abeg
Christianity EtcRe: Been A Gay Is Natural by jaephoenix(m): 11:04am On Mar 07, 2023
Dtruthspeaker:
.

Stupid Lunatic cannot identify a baloney and that your very statement is exactly what an Ariaria mad man who failed at school will say. You better go back to Aba market, there is plenty of refuse there for you to eat and sleep in. Stupid Mad ibo Fool!
You're talking as if you didn't sleep at the refuse bin on top Oshodi
Christianity EtcRe: Are White And Blacks Created By The Same God? I Doubt. by jaephoenix(m): 11:01am On Mar 07, 2023
2elliot:
If you didn't get it before, now get it. My point was that the Freemasons are behind our current enlightenment and innovation. You can go and verify. From the very earliest inventors and scientists, were freemansons. Even though they try to hide the devil worshipping aspects of it but instead tell us that their cause is noble. They hid their devil worship in codes and gematria, and so only a few can decode. Again, my point is that we shouldn't envy them because they are more enlightened than we are. You may think all of these technologies are wonderful, but there is a purpose far beyond what the ordinary man could see or understand.
And they saved your skin via these innovations. Don't you think that alone is cause for you to worship them, considering your own god hasnt done diddly squat to bring you into this world or save you
Christianity EtcRe: Are White And Blacks Created By The Same God? I Doubt. by jaephoenix(m): 10:58am On Mar 07, 2023
2elliot:
QLol. How is my point trashed? Aren't the Freemasons behind enlightenment and innovation?
No. Scientific innovations were rolling in way before Free Masons came into the picture. And they had nothing to do with it. Even if they had, you had shot yourself in the foot cos science made you able to listen to your pastor when he's miles away, science saved your life, and in fact, this rubbish youre typing was enabled by science. All of which you said was enabled by the Free Masons. If its actually true, you should be bowing down and thanking those Masons
Savvy?
Christianity EtcRe: Are White And Blacks Created By The Same God? I Doubt. by jaephoenix(m): 10:55am On Mar 07, 2023
LordReed:
Your so called point was thoroughly countered. The Bible book you read from was due to the invention of the printing press by those you claim are demon influenced so I guess your printed Bible is demon influenced? But sure enough you are going to run in here to tell me how your bible represents a special case aren't you.
Of course, where's theism if you can't use a fallacy or two daily?
Christianity EtcRe: Are White And Blacks Created By The Same God? I Doubt. by jaephoenix(m): 10:53am On Mar 07, 2023
2elliot:
You can't even counter my point.
He did. You typed rubbish
Christianity EtcRe: Are White And Blacks Created By The Same God? I Doubt. by jaephoenix(m): 10:53am On Mar 07, 2023
LordReed:
Ok so your father god is also cursed because you said It is Cursed people who require inventions. Bwahahahahaha!
Exactly
Like I told you guys, this guy invents his own reality and rules as he rolls, irrespective of what his buybull or holy vodka says
Christianity EtcRe: Are White And Blacks Created By The Same God? I Doubt. by jaephoenix(m): 10:52am On Mar 07, 2023
Dtruthspeaker:
grin See as devil don vex dey hala. grin hahahahaha grin

The white people also used what my Father (God) invented, so the equation balance, hahahahahahaha grin
I thought u said we dont need inventions if we are yahweh's own folks. How come yahweh himself is inventing stuff now?
Christianity EtcRe: Are White And Blacks Created By The Same God? I Doubt. by jaephoenix(m): 10:51am On Mar 07, 2023
Dtruthspeaker:
See yourself, I did not say He was a white bearded man.

And He must be in the sky because Creators always live outside their creations exactly as you do not live in the boutique with your mannequin.



None of these things are capable of creating.
How do u know
Christianity EtcRe: Are White And Blacks Created By The Same God? I Doubt. by jaephoenix(m): 10:50am On Mar 07, 2023
Wilgrea7:
Considering you typed this on your smartphone, probably from a modern house with access to clean water and electricity, and probably had dinner cooked on a modern gas or electric cooker, while wearing modern clothes and not a bunch of leaves, I'd say you're the definition of hypocrisy.

Just because other societies had a head-start in technological advancements, doesn't in any way mean they are demonic. You don't have to demonize something just because you don't understand it. And the fact that you lump all other races as "white" shows how little you know about the racial demographics of the world we live in, as well as the history of technology.

Add that to the fact that the God you worship also came from these communities you'd consider "demonic". If you're going to look for a reason to demonize an entire race, you should look for a better one.
Dont question theist logic, it won't work cheesy
Christianity EtcRe: Are White And Blacks Created By The Same God? I Doubt. by jaephoenix(m): 10:49am On Mar 07, 2023
Wilgrea7:
It's also insane to think that if something created these things, it must be a white bearded man in the sky.

Why can't it be a cat antelope hybrid? or a superconscious rock, or a flying spaghetti?
Its the Flying Spaghetti Monster, my Lord and master, that created all things
Christianity EtcRe: Are White And Blacks Created By The Same God? I Doubt. by jaephoenix(m): 10:48am On Mar 07, 2023
2elliot:
Don't envy the white man. In fact, the white man is a fallen man who allowed himself to be used by the devil and fallen angels to decieve the world. Don't envy their technology and science. They are nothing but knowledge gotten from demons. From their the founders of america and the western world down to their top scientists, are all freemansons who got their enlightenment through Lucifer. And now, time is running out on them and their nemesis is at hand for deceiving the entire world into Satan worship.
… and I guess, if you're given free visa and citizenship with residency in the US, youll decline? Nice grin
Christianity EtcRe: Are White And Blacks Created By The Same God? I Doubt. by jaephoenix(m): 10:47am On Mar 07, 2023
Eviana:
Answer to the's question: YES
Now the question needs to be reversed to if "whites" and "blacks" honor and serve the God of Abraham, Isaac, and Israel?
Not eeryone does and still a society may thrive.
However, that doesn't negste the fact that God requires a loving surrender and obedience. How much more would he bless a people who.honor Him.

Anyhow, we've all been given the option "free-will".
It's up to each individual to exercise that option.
Yahweh didn't give free will
Christianity EtcRe: Are White And Blacks Created By The Same God? I Doubt. by jaephoenix(m): 10:46am On Mar 07, 2023
Dtruthspeaker:
Does a person who lives by the flowing river need to invent a bucket? No.

It is Cursed people who require inventions that is why they said "Necessity is the mother of invention"

A Person who is blessed and has everything does not stress himself making inventions.

But now you people have swallowed up the white man's Curse and now you are crying. So now you can start inventing after you have finished shouting.
Actually the person living by the river needs buckets, fishing rods etc which are inventions. I know logical reasoning is beyond you, but try and attempt it. It may pain your brain little by little, but gradually your brain would adjust cheesy
Christianity EtcRe: Are White And Blacks Created By The Same God? I Doubt. by jaephoenix(m): 10:43am On Mar 07, 2023
Dtruthspeaker:
You must be insane to think that things can just create themselves and change themselves.
Ah, the chief madman wades into the fray cheesy
Christianity EtcRe: Are White And Blacks Created By The Same God? I Doubt. by jaephoenix(m): 10:43am On Mar 07, 2023
AllenforGOD:
undecided Princesstee you really are High on Drugs.
you Claimed an Old man with grey hairs and white beards lives up in the sky?
How then did you obtain Life?
how are you breathing by what means?
how then was your immune system created and function on their own purposes?
you must be a fool.
This is how you know somebody that is deficient in science.
1. He came into being when his pops fvxked his moms
2. He's breathing because his brain is sending impulse to his lungs, diaphragm and other muscles via the phrenic nerves
3. Immune system came from white cells and was modulated by the environment and maternal breast milk
Next question please

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