₦airaland Forum

Aemmyjah:
You're yet to be convinced that this Apeman does not think straight. He thinks like an ape

Aha, where went you? You have been missing. Welcome back bro. How u doing

MaxInDHouse:
Ọmọ you're a real clown!

So you went to fetch a Muslim who claims he's ex-jws and you haven't questioned him at all to see how convincing his thoughts he's not even here on Nairaland for questioning as i've been doing here!

I knew you'd come up with a twisting tale. Of course, you'll commit a fallacy. Did you talk about confirming the authenticity of deconverted ex-JW when you were beating your chest earlier?
If I go online and bring a certified JW who went Islam, you'll still say some bigger stupid shit. Maybe say you have to certify him yourself.
Even if I go to your own Kingdom Hall and drag out an ex-JW with an ID (or whatever you guys use to id yourself) you'll still come up with a twisty turny eely excuse. You'll probably talk another fallacy or lie.
Knowing you, such lies are your way of lie.
This is the Max I know

Thanksful:
No sane company does business with Nigeria or Nigerian companies, only dubious one does because the nation is seen as a corrupt one.

Every scam done by a black man is hanged on Nigeria. No nation prospers with such a tag.

The individual small money we celebrate are mostly proceeds of corruption even in the church.

Is Russia prosperous or not

Techobeys:
I think you’re now being unreasonable. Would you like a psychology textbook to read so that you might grow? Go get yourself psychology by Carole wade and Carol Tavris. It’ll help you think critically.

Imagine a law court that Matthew, Mark, Luke and John were called to give evidence in court that Jesus existed. Not only would the court laugh at such 'evidence' but they'll throw them to jail for perjury

Maynman:
We are talking about events that took place.
President buhari is from katsina that became President in 2015.
If 100 people write history they will say the same thing, what has their experience got to do with events that took place?
You yourself said authors are unknown, how did you know any of the authors were present at the time of events?

The have come out to say actually those people didn't witness those events

Techobeys:
Yes I have read them. They all had different focus. If ten different people experience something and you ask them to relay their experience, they’ll say it differently based on their interest and personality.

This is a psychological fact. Why is it difficult for you to understand? Would you like me to recommend a psychology textbook for you to read? Maybe then you can grasp some of the happening in the bible

I know you will say this.
So now the next question. How come those people actually contradict themselves. I'm not talking about different focuses. I'm talking plain contradictions, as in black and white

Techobeys:
Through proper studies. When I tell you I’m well read, I really mean it. I know you probably haven’t read or researched as much so there’s really not much to tell you.

If you give yourself to diligent studies and don’t get hung up on conspiracy theories about God, you’ll attain this level of awareness. Hopefully you’ll study. How old are you btw?

1. What have you researched about the Bible?
2.Lol. Conspiracy theories are based on anecdotes. What I have about Yahweh are facts

Techobeys:
Can you pls watch it another time? I didn’t say the bible has to be obeyed, i said the laws of Christ must be obeyed for a man to gain sanity and tranquility.

Are the 'laws of christ' not in the Bible?

Techobeys:
Yes I have. Really? Don’t you think you’re the psychopath? You know we all tend to project our subjective reality into the world, especially when we read

You're drifting. Have you read it or not. If you haven't, read it. I have questions for you. Make sure you understand the story properly because you'll lose your mind by the time I'm done with you

Thanksful:
A nation doesn't prosper because many are blessed. A nation prospers because other nations have good perspective of that nation.

Erm. Can you expnatiate, sir

sonmvayina:
A spiritualist...

Who and where is this spiritualist?

Dtruthspeaker:
The mere fact that you could not give a reasonable counter just proves that you have no reasonable case against God and seeing that you have nothing reasonable to say, you are just showing that you are unreasonably biased and you love being unreasonably biased.

For I have just shown you that it was a challenge in which Job was God's Heavy weight Champion of the world against Satan and every champion must prove his championess by very hot competition.

So you are just talking rubbish because you are a devil and have nothing reasonable to say.

Do you know Job is mortal, and can fail? So if he fails those tests and goes to hell, who do we blame? Yahweh for testing a mere mortal tan can fail? Job for failing his gods trust? Satan for making yahweh a fool? DTruthSpeaker for talking rubbish?

Dtruthspeaker:
What happened to him happened to everyone, but some us listened and got out. But obviously he didn't listen his fault.



Is this not obviously the Job scenario which we have all noticed?

Every normal person has noticed that once they decide to do the right thing, life and living gets worse and when we agree that we are not doing again, it returns to normal.

It was this observation that made me know that Satan was real. So, anyone who wanted to get out of Satan's kingdom of sin, would have gotten out, if they wanted to for it is a very obvious sign as you yourself has noticed.

So just say you are here to blaspheme God because these are the days that He had foretold that He would begin punishing you devils and sons of devils since you chose not to get out and stop being devils.

For God has already been too good but you devils love being devils and now it's your time to burn. You people ain't seen nothing yet, you are going to scream to the point that you would be unable to blaspheme no more before you continue in lava. You kukuma have lava in your name, so you know your destination.

Lol. Between Nigerians and Chinese, who are screaming in pains?

Dtruthspeaker:
It depends on what you are asking for and how far deep you are in sins and if He spoken to you in the past but you did not listen to Him.

So if one refused to listen to him, does Yahweh answer his prayers?

sonmvayina:
Through the oracle...

Where's this oracle? Who has access?

AbdulMagaji:
God almighty created man in his own image and likeness

How do you know this? Again I ask

AbdulMagaji:
You want me to tell you the source of the power of God almighty?

I have told you that he is an invisible being, no human can see him until after death.

But he can talk to you if you ask him.

Do you talk to him?

AbdulMagaji:
Let me give you a practical illustration on what is meant by idol worship and who God almighty is.


Now in electricity, we have what is called..


Power generation (Dam for example)

Power transmission (via transmission lines)

Power distribution (via transformers)




Now...

Power generation = God

Power transmission = his force of creation

Power distribution = electricity we use at home (take it as his creation which could be object or matter or human or the earth)



Now, you realize that Almighty God has a power within him in which at the end of anything he created he drops or leaves a bit of his power (now electricity) in it, in other words every creation has a life force deposited in them by God almighty after creation.

Humans, animals, the earth, the trees, the sea, the rocks, sands, air, the moon, the sun etc. all has a force which was deposited in them after creation so as to keep it running.


So now, these creations that I listed above posses an amount of power which can be tapped or recognized by humans.


Now so many humans, after realizing the powers in what God has created, decided to worship these things.

But God almighty is saying that NO, we are NOT to worship these things rather we are to worship him the CREATOR of these things (power generator in my illustration)


Most times in my village, after an abomination is committed by someone, people say to such person that you have defiled the land and the soil is angry with such person. This is because the land in which these person steps on, recognizes such abomination as evil.


I believe you know understand the difference between gods and almighty God.

No. You're just muddying the water.
Do you believe everything is created?

Kalatium:
People who are unsure about the existence of a God but keep an open mind and recognize the limits of human knowledge and experience according to your definition are also atheist.

No. They're agnostic

Dtruthspeaker:
The fact is we have seen that in this world no thing can build itself. It is always built by another. And this House we call the earth cannot build itself. Therefore, it must be built by a Person. It is that Person Whom we acknowledge and respect that we call God in whatever dialect we have.

Therefore, as Abdul, said, there isn't any nation which does not have a Name in respect and reverence of He Who created this House, which we popularly call "God".

What does your own nation call this creator?

Kalatium:
Which is not going to happen. The human instinct to believe in something will never go away. Religion is even waxing stronger.

No its not. Atheism is actually growing, according to many polls and researches

Kalatium:
You are having a point.

The issue of religion will continue to be a bone of contention till the 25th century.

Religion as we know it is gradually dying off. A brand of religion would be around then

Kalatium:
You have a point , however what you are saying seems to be assumptions or what you grew up knowing not based on facts.

Assumptions? Maybe. But he's dropping some evidence to back his claims. You haven't dropped any.

AbdulMagaji:
Almighty God is not human made.

If your God is human made, then tell him to create a planet elsewhere where you and your other believers can quietly relocate to and serve him there!

Just throw this as a challenge to your human made God, since he is physically there with you.

How did you know your favorite daddy created the Universe? He sent you an email?

AbdulMagaji:
Any tribe in the world has a name or caption that refers to the almighty God.


We cannot see the almighty God because he is not human.

Imagine the planetary system, do you think someone who is human can create such 7 rocks revolving around the Sun?


It's not magic.


Even the earth we live in today..

There's nothing on this Earth that can be created with magic.

So who ever created this Earth and other planets can never be equated with human.


He should be called omnipotent, omniscience because these things were created, not magically.


God can reveal things to you, if you seek him or if he has dedicated you for a certain purpose in life.

Again, which god? Brahma? Yahweh? Flying Spaghetti Monster?

AbdulMagaji:
Well, that's left for the English man to resolve.

But the general term in English as I understand is that when you use the word..

God = it refers to a bigger entity, biggest of all
gods

god = refers to a smaller entity, which is not
wordy


Just like the several realms in heaven..


There are realms which the smaller god exists, while there are also realms in which the biggest God exists.


And the biggest God is assumed to have created all the smaller heavens including the earth.

They're the same. The upper case G was introduced by the Christians. Same shit. Different case

AbdulMagaji:
I was born in a community were I observed the traditions closely as a kid.

Having grown up with my family I came to the realization that the old testament serves as the basis on which my traditions were built.

Now when translated into English, we refer to God in my tradition as follows

Mighty God or God almighty

God the creator

God that never changes = I am that I am

So we do not relate with any white Jewish assumptions as we already knew who God is before the British brought in the new testament.

Oh, I guess that's not Yahweh. Hes White folk with flowing mane and blue eyes

Maynman:
The “i am that i am” is a wrong translation of the common English translation of the Hebrew phrase אֶהְיֶה אֲשֶׁר אֶהְיֶה‎‎ (’ehye ’ăšer ’ehye) use to describe the Israelite deity called yahweh.

Yahweh is a little idol though and if we are to compare both, yahweh stands no chance to brahma.

Yeah. I heard Brahma has some bad ass fireball that can blow up Yahweh's ass in a jiffy

AbdulMagaji:
The creator of heaven and earth.

All of the above and more claim to create heaven and earth. So you need to choose which one is your favorite

Holyede:
https://www.google.com/url?q=https://ke.opera.news/ke/en/religion/b43950cf3201d7e71085d547ece12a0d&sa=U&ved=2ahUKEwiYir-F_7j9AhUThP0HHSzdBdAQFnoECAkQAg&usg=AOvVaw3gXlpebCIu_Fil8Mlr3pu0

I thought therell be KFC there

AbdulMagaji:
As human, wether you believe there's God or not, you are the one to loose and not the creator.

Which particular 'creator'? Thor? Yahweh? Allah?

Techobeys:
I wish I can, but I do not have the time. I have opened many threads here, if you want to join any of them that’s fine, I’ll reply if you comment but I really do not have the time to sit around here and make noise based on someone else’s assumptions about life and reality.

Have you read the story of Balaam and Balaak in the Bible? I swear that story shows Yahweh to be a bumbling psychopath