Maynman: The “i am that i am” is a wrong translation of the common English translation of the Hebrew phrase אֶהְיֶה אֲשֶׁר אֶהְיֶה (’ehye ’ăšer ’ehye) use to describe the Israelite deity called yahweh.
Yahweh is a little idol though and if we are to compare both, yahweh stands no chance to brahma.
Yeah. I heard Brahma has some bad ass fireball that can blow up Yahweh's ass in a jiffy
Techobeys: I wish I can, but I do not have the time. I have opened many threads here, if you want to join any of them that’s fine, I’ll reply if you comment but I really do not have the time to sit around here and make noise based on someone else’s assumptions about life and reality.
Have you read the story of Balaam and Balaak in the Bible? I swear that story shows Yahweh to be a bumbling psychopath
MaxInDHouse: Mention their new found faith and what they preached to prove that's the only religion approved by God!
Don't be a clown nah, this is what i told you:
Just like you have been doing before, you don't read links posted by your opposition. Did you read the link about the Muslim ex-JW that goes about preaching about Allah, and how he's the greatest? Yes or no
Its only narcissistic pathological attention seekers with a histrionic personality disorder, that always thinks that everything in life is about a binary yes, or no answer.
Personal text: Jesus is not a theologian. He is God who told stories.
Bro, answer the question so the discourse can continue. You don't wanna answer cos you know you're stumped
Dtruthspeaker: The Mercy is that God, Inspite of His great hatred for sinners, still pushed through our sins and reached out to us to talk to us, which He does not have to do for exactly as we treat out phones where we destroy and throw away our damaged phones. He could and can still always do that to us but He rather chose to endure the pain of our sins and talk to us, that we may get out of that place and not be destroyed.
So, God has been very very mercy giving to the full.
It is because of mercy you could say this for if God was like us, Satan would have been in tormentous punishment since and every new Satan would be going the same way, no matter how many they are.
As I said, God has already done a lot in talking to us, but if he does not listen to God nor do what God has Said, that is his fault.
Answer this simple question… Does yahweh answer the prayer of sinners?
Techobeys: Just thank your soul for internet and how it allows you to read quick fix by those whose interest is to deceive you. If they give you proper research work to analyse you’ll collapse. I know you lack capacity for this discussion so I’ll leave you with another of my video that was uploaded today.
The gospel finally REVEALED! #spiritualunderstanding
This video has no import on your debate with Maynmann. You're debating the veracity of the Bible and you're there saying the bible has to be obeyed? How can you obey something that is already flawed and under scrutiny? Have you done any bit of research on bible sources and originality? I doubt you even know what Epic of Gilgamesh is
Maynman: Then what is the history of the tanakh and New Testament? How did you validate the information in the bible written by unknown authors? You said the romans killed the authors? Are you talking about New Testament or tanakh? Then quote the history books outside the bible that validates that jargons you just wrote. You are EMPTY! Do you even know what “Christian” means, do you even know what “bible” means. You are talking from a place of indoctrination, you clearly lack knowledge on the books you are basing your life on Who are the authors? What century was it written? Who complied the books? Have you ever heard of CANON? Please mention the past books and other books outside the bible that validates the forgery you have in your bible, I’m waiting.
You are empty, your ignorance will be exposed here!
Techobeys: If we already know of 2+2 then we already know of the prophecies. People know these things. The fact that you’re unaware of higher realities and do not have an higher order consciousness doesn’t mean things aren’t happening beyond you. Stay where you are dear friend. There’s a lot happening beyond you. Good bye for now. Do have a lovely day. Be a God fearing human and have peace.
Techobeys: Like I said you’re not a well read person and you’re starting to show symptoms that show that’s it’s not just about reading but more.
How are we supposed know the authors when the Romans already killed them? But how does not knowing the author of an information invalidate the information?
If the information is true and is consistent with each other, and with past books written then we care less about who wrote it but the information.
If I go into an empty class and write 2X2=4 and run off. When people find an empty class with the mathematical solution on the board. Would they reject the authenticity of the information bc they didn’t know me? Wouldn’t the information be correct whether or not I make myself known as the writer?
Pls go and study, being a pseudo intellectual doesn’t suit you well.
In this case the stories not consistent. Have you compared the gospels of Matthew, Mark, Luke and John?
LordReed: Add to that thought stopping techniques to prevent critical examination of the religious material. That's why some of them (JW for example) are afraid of university education because they know that such environments allow the development of critical thinking skills.
Yeah. I wonder if our poor old friend Max here even attended uni? I find his debate quite demoralizing for someone that is literate , never mind an intelligence Officer
MaxInDHouse: Do you say a Christian? Well my friend i am telling you now that that's the greatest impossibility! You'll never ever find a JW convert to another religion and speak positively of his new religion. The only thing you will see ex-jws doing is complaining about JW organization but to speak convincingly about any other religion? That's impossible! Do you know why? Because there is no better performing religion than JWs the one and only true Christian group!
Please make a thorough research and give me your report, try to find a single former JW who is now converted to any other religion talking convincingly about his new found faith the same way i does here.
If you find one i'm promising you that i will leave the JWs for such a religion.
That prophecy found at Psalms 115:4-8 is about all false religions and Isaiah 54:17 belongs to just one religion: JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES ORGANIZATION!
I just decided to pick on these 2 people because they converted to Islam. Others converted to other christian denominations and other religions. And they spoke glowingly of their new religions and condemned JW. Bottom line: PLEASE START PACKING YOUR BAG TO LEAVE JW. I know you'll recant and point caveats
MaxInDHouse: Who are those noisemakers out there? What is their new found religion? Let's here what they've got to say about it. But go and tell them that the worshipers of the God who spoke in the Bible book of Isaiah 54:17 are here. YES! We ARE JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES!
Techobeys: Would you like to take this discussion to like WhatsApp so you can tell me all about them. I’ll like to take a deep study with you so we can actually discuss this. It’s important we do a deep text and language study to arrive at conclusion.
It’s important that neither of us just make assumption about right or wrong but for us to do an in-depth textual and contextual study of the bible and it’s language. If you’re in then let’s talk otherwise let it go pls. I don’t like assumptions and rumours.
Why don't either of us open a thread, so others can contribute too
They were mostly theists before. For the Christian atheists, that's how they were born. Not just because God let's people suffer, but because they were suffering too, and no God helped them out of it. Or do you think they dropped from Mars as atheists who never heard about God? Be scientific. Conduct a poll.
To think otherwise is the stupid and myopic thing.
When you lot have learned to be civil, you will be finally seen. Crude uncivilized and uncouth atheists, crude uncivilized and uncouth Christians. You're all the same, in different clothing. All in need of civility and anger management.
Im sorry I used those words. I just got tired of hearing that wrong impressions about atheists. And to be honest, its infuriating. Bro, I'm an atheist. If u want I can tell you my story, it has nothing to do with unanswered prayers. And I have discussed with many atheists, and their de-conversions are similar to mine. Of course, there are few atheists who were disappointed from unanswered prayers. Atheism was borne out of conviction about the non-existence of a god. Hope you understand
FxMasterz: Atheists are special brands of foolishness, isn't it?
Your research told you the event happened around the dead sea. Is that different from what you saw in the video?
The article you quoted started with a sentence of probability: 'Sodom and Gomorrah are possibly located...' Bit since it runs adjunct to your warped ideologies, you quickly took that as fact.
Those who wrote that article wouldn't ever have known that a city once existed called Sodom if not from the Bible.
Ever before those people lived, Moses gave a vivid account of events preceding and succeeding the destruction of those cities. People who lived thousands of years later are drawing speculations as to what they thought might have happened, each of them having contradictory opinions. Yet, those are the pillars of your soul. Continue being foolish. Your fate would not be different from that of those who went before you.
Many myths exists, which were written thousands of years ago, which tried to explain natural disasters. Are you saying they are correct? I want a yes or no answer, please
FxMasterz: Why are the confusions and inconsistencies?
There are so many. Let me not inundated you. Lemme give you bits. Like I told Terrezo(or something like that) I'll create a thread when I have ample time. 1. Have you read the story of balaam and balaak? Does it make sense to you? Doesn't it look like a dyslexic schizophrenic wrote it?
FxMasterz: The ancient who wrote about Sodom and Gomorrah gave detailed narrations of events preceding the fire and after the fire.
You who lived thousands of years later even denied the existent of such cities and the possibility of such an events.
The moment the cities were discovered, you started giving unreasonable excuses.
Keep deceiving yourself.
You're still dancing around the glaring gaffe you dug up for yourself. A humble guy would simply say 'I don't know'. There's nothing shameful there. But not you.
FxMasterz: Did the researchers tell you that the Tunguska event was a natural effect?
If the Bible has never talked about Sodom and Gomorrah, wouldn't everyone have errornously regarded it as a natural event?
The stroking similarity between the Bible account of what happened, the area where it happened and the substances found in the location are enough evidence.
We don't deal in speculations. Whether it was caused by God or not is your cup of tea, not mine.
Obviously science isn't your strong point, like most theists. The Tunguska event was as a result of meteorites, which are natural phenomena. Same as the 'Sodom and Gomorrha' event
FxMasterz: Of course, how can depraved scientists find proof that runs contrary to their ideologies. Just like yourself, they'll look for everything they can use to deny the ruins of any Sodom and Gomorah status. Except you want to be deceived, where did the pillar of salt come from which engulfed Lot's wife according to the Bible? This article points us to the dead sea and the sands close to its shore.
In the video, the evidence of burning sulphur is overwhelming. The location of the city around the dead sea aligning with the location of the city in the Genesis narrative cannot be a mere coincidence.
Lol. Theists are special 1. Scientists have been discovering stuff including medicines and vaccines that have kept you alive, even the phone you used to type this rubbish. They even made the internet you and your ilk are using in disseminating ignorance, like Oyakhilome. But because they disproved your myth, they are now depraved and want to disprove. If they want to disprove it, do you think they'll dig up and explore the place in the first place? 2. The mythical pillar of salt has not been found and remains a story similar to Snow White 3. Burning sulfur can be as a result of meteorite explosions. There are similar findings around the world. Are you saying those meteorites are hails too from Yahweh?
Hey! Let me also tip you that the evidence for the Tower of Babel too has been discovered. The details have all the archeologist names and papers you're talking about. Just be on the lookout for that too. I'll post everything here Nairaland soon.
Those who had already died as atheists blaspheming the Almighty God while they lived are already damned for sure.
I believe you can read and write because that link talked about Tall-Hannenin and not Sodom and Gomorrah. I believe u can spot the difference.
About your tower of Babel, read this from Encyclopedia Britannica, a reliable source
The myth may have been inspired by the Babylonian tower temple north of the Marduk temple, which in Babylonian was called Bab-ilu (“Gate of God”), Hebrew form Babel, or Bavel. The similarity in pronunciation of Babel and balal (“to confuse”) led to the play on words in Genesis 11:9: “Therefore its name was called Babel, because there the Lord confused the language of all the earth.”
So obviously you guys love myths. Keep up the good works. While you're at it, we need evidence that Harry Potter lived and died. We wanna write his biography
Christianity Etc › Re: 21st Century And The Rise Of Antitheism by jaephoenix(m): 11:00pm On Feb 28, 2023
