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triplechoice:
What of those who are receiving treatment while in coma ,how do they get to trust the physician they're not even aware of?

What of babies too? How does a baby know what it means to trust

Youre going far. What about psychotic patients that are physically restrained and on intravenous injections prescribed by the psychiatrist? Do they need to trust or abide by the doctors' regimen?
MadMax is at his finest this morning

MaxInDHouse:
Oya tell me the BENEFITS derived from going to the Moon!

Facepalm

MaxInDHouse:
Why not go against the prescription of the physician and see if the baby gets well?

Ọmọ you must BELIEVE (TRUST) the physician by applying his prescriptions (commandments) otherwise the drug will only kill your baby!

What do you mean 'going against the physician'. Unless you mean underdosing or overdosing, of which either way, you'll have problems. Trusting the physician isn't the same as trusting the drugs
You really have lost the plot bro. Its either you catch cruise in these mindless rebuttals or you truly are a nutcase

MaxInDHouse:
Don't mix things up now!

Prayer connotes Consultation just as you must consult the physician who will now prescribe the drugs and you must BELIEVE (TRUST) the physician otherwise you will never get the benefits of the drug!

… and if you take the prescribed meds from the physician, you'll get better whether you believe the drugs would work or not. Unless you're a hypochondriac or have Manchaussen's

MaxInDHouse:
You know nothing about SCIENCE!

You mentioned ANTIBIOTICS (MEDICINES) and said it works whether you believe or not but real SCIENTISTS will tell you that you MUST BELIEVE (TRUST) in medicines before it could work!

Manufacturing and prescribing medicine for a patient can't save the sick person unless the patient first BELIEVE (TRUST) in what you gave him/her that he/she could recover fast from his illness.

If the patient should BELIEVE (TRUST) in a fake drug it will never work just as your trust in false religions won't work too. So for anything to work first of all it must be ORIGINAL and the user must BELIEVE (TRUST) in the doctor's prescription.

So what is BELIEVE?
Believe is the act of trusting in someone or something that if you do exactly as you are told you will get the benefits. But when you fall into the wrong hands (false religions or fake doctors) your belief or trust will surely not save you because it has been MISPLACED.


May you have PEACE!

How can you say patients need to believe in antibiotics before it works on them? Do they control the bioavailability, pharmacokinetics or pharmacodynamics? Do you need to believe the food you eat would nourish your body before it does its jobs?
Even if its placebo effects, it has its limits.
How do you manage to keep a straight face when you type these bollocks you dump on Nairaland? Next thing Aemyjah would chime in and start defending you

Aemmyjah:
There are millions on 'inferior' monkeys today but not one 'superior' apeman to drive home your speculative lies

Pictures of great ape ancestors with tails abound in the internet

Aemmyjah:
Do they exist today or ever existed or they are one of your other speculation?

Whether they exist today is irrelevant. You asked for a language less tribe. I provided one. You're now asking if they exist. If I prove they still exist, you'll ask me if they wear clothes
Lol. Ignorant theists

Aemmyjah:
Just a skull and a jaw and someone can actually reconstruct the whole organism?

Should I share you photos of the roof of my house and you give me full picture of how my house looks like and very accurately

I'm sure you're living under a rock because your ignorance of scientific tools are astounding
There’s apps where one can get your whole body from prints, genes etc

Aemmyjah:
Zeus never existed
It's like you're picking what you want to believe from the internet
Shame

Yes he does. And he's alive

Aemmyjah:
You were never interested and never will cos you hate the bible already
Someone with such biased mind will never accept it

When I pointed your error that God did not ask anyone to EAT dung, no acknowledgement
When I showed you the shape of the Earth, no acknowledgement
When I showed you that on health, no acknowledgement
When I showed you how babylon was overthrow, you did not bother to visit the internet to confirm but you went to look for Newton as an unusual Christian

Don't worry about what the Bible says about the future, it's not for those who want to remain short sighted like you so you can become wise in your eyes when you're actually foolish

Because you were wrong in all of your points and you also didn't provide any proof of the legitimacy of such events
I'll start ignoring your dissembling til you provide the relevant bible verses backing your trash

Aemmyjah:
Lol
As if he were interested
Why not examine the context that just some verses

If I were you, whether I believe in God or not and someone tells me that somewhere in the Bible describe the successive government and world power to rule down to our day, I will be really interested to EXAMINE THE EVIDENCE FOR MYSELF TO KNOW IF IT IS TRUE OR NOT
Someone did so
Check those links and I'll drop
I have nothing to lose whether you accept it or not or you believe the bible prophecy or not
Again, it is the most convincing evidence that the Bible alone is inspired of God. The koran does not have any prophecy. Not a single one yet, a man who lived 2600 years ago describe all the government and world power down to our time and what will happen next (future). People like you who discredit the Bible as copied or myth know nothing about the prophecies.

1. You're the one positing the bible is legit on prophesies. He who alleges must provide burden of proof
2. What makes you think I haven't gone through your Bible and found out there's no legitimate prophesies?
3. The longer dither, the more obvious there’s actually no legit prophesies
Good night

Aemmyjah:
1. Again, the Jewish rendition of that verse describe a sphere. Why not visit the internet for more explanation. You'd rather visit it to listen that Newton was an 'unusual' christian. You liked against the bible that it mention the earth is flat. Later you said it could be round but flat. Think as you like

2. Cos of the way you reason shows you need more than a hospital. It's a blacksmith you need

3. Read Leviticus or forget about it. If it were Darwin's book, you'd gladly do so but since you have grudge against the Author of the bible, you won't

4. Lol

Why not describe it in simplest terms and see whether the bible is right or not?

5. You only read the verse without checking secular history to see if it happened as Bible said cos you are holding deep grudge you won't let go

6. Show us how he did so

7. Apes have limited understanding... There are several Bible passages that predict the future, you are just not interested in anything from the Bible and I won't waste my time. Lemme ask you this question. Looking at world events today, which one is likely to happen next, another world war or nations will come together, ceasefire, stop warring and work to promote and proclaim PEACE AND SECURITY?

8. Like a fingerprint, Jesus Christ gave the sign about the future time where all these things will be evident on earth. See how silly you reason. Jesus himself said of earthquake that 'Great earthquake will occur in one place after another'. When people say there is no earthquake in Africa, I show them what Jesus Christ himself said. That there will be great or powerful earthquake,not in all places but in one place after another.

9. Bible critics try to search secular history or archaeological discoveries. This will help them see if what the bible says is accurate or not.

10. Whether you like them or not, all these are what Jesus foretold will happen and they are happening simultaneously. Can you point to any other era in human history where all these things- moral breakdown, international wars and conflict, pestilence, food shortage, earthquake, (you did not mention that our environment is threatened as foretold), crimes, lack of love, intense love of money and fear upon mankind? The bible also say that some people will reject the evidence that all these things have been happening as normal since time immemorial and that is what you have done. You are playing your own part of fulfillment

1. This is the last time I talk about this shape ish. If it aint sphere or geoid, then it aint sphere or geoid
2. Ok
3. I didn't read all of Darwin's books to understand it. Just an article was enough. Same goes for your story book. If you haven't got the specific verses, don't send me to do it. I'm not your lackey. Same as the above, this would be the last time I talk about it
4. Obviously you don't know the rain cycle. I suggest you read it up and compare it what your storybook said
5. I know you don't have the specific verse in Daniel because there wasn't. If there were, you would have posted it here. Just wasting my time
6. This is his prophesy
'Two steel birds will fall from the sky on the Metropolis

The sky will burn at forty-five degrees latitude

Fire approaches the great new city

Immediately a huge, scattered flame leaps up
Five and forty degrees, the sky shall burn:
To the great new city shall the fire draw nigh.
With vehemence the flames shall spread and churn
When with the Normans they conclusions try.
"Five and forty degrees" was said to be the latitude of New York City (New York's latitude is 40°47'), and was interpreted as "40.5 degrees" (even though the decimal point had not yet come into use in the Europe of Nostradamus' day). "New City", similarly, was claimed to be New York (even though Nostradamus refers in this way to various "New Cities" whose names, unlike "New York", literally mean "New City", and especially Naples – from Greek Neapolis, "new city"; and most of the attempts to fit in the "Normans" of line 4 seemed contrived at best. While it is true that New York State, which has the same name as New York City, crosses 45° latitude, it cannot, of course, be described as a "new city", and so doesn't fit line 2 of the verse.

7. Stop wasting your time. And stop lying. There are no correct bible prophecies. If they were legit, you would have posted them since. I don't have time for rubbish chat with cretards like you

8. Irrelevant. Doesn't prove anything. You and I know there would be earthquakes in the future. Its just like me predicting there would be floods and wars in the future. Who doesn't know that such disasters would happen. Its only cretards like you that jump up
9. Well, they have searched and haven't seen any. Only lies like that of the fake Noah Ark on Ararat, which turned out to be a fat lie
10. Those have been happening since time immemorial

Dtruthspeaker:
Is that how much you deceive yourself? Even the person I answered knew it was True and therefore did not raise it up.
Secondly, if it was not True all my enemies here would have immediately called me a liar. So, nothing for you.

The fact that they didn't flag it doesn't make it any truthful. Could be they just wanna ignore you(like we do most times). If you wanted to know if its true, a simple Google search woulda helped you, but cos youre Dliespeaker, its irrelevant to you

Aemmyjah:
Look at this link below
Now this is the story of a man who never believed in the existence of God. He thought Communism and ATHEISM was the answer and he tried to help the community
He read Daniel 2 which gave the outline or timeline about the government of the world from Babylonian King reign, Nebuchadnezzar down to our day as well as other Bible prophecies which were fulfilled as he read the ones that describe the future which had been bothering him to know
He was astonished
See what he said
'At last I was finding answers to my questions! But who wrote those prophecies, and who could predict the future so accurately? Could it be that God exists after all?'

Now, he is no longer anxious or fearful of life and the future. He is now a happily married christian man... Prophecies changed an atheist view of the Bible. The same book you call a storybook. These same prophecies were read by some Atheists, they did not deny the fulfillment but cos they don't want to acknowledge the Bible as God's word, they said Daniel wrote all that AFTER all these events had taken place but it is already fact that he existed in the about 2600 years ago when Babylon was still world power. How did Daniel know about Medopersia, Greece, Rome and Anglo-america or maybe Daniel existed during the last century and formulated that prophetic writing to include Anglo-america

This man could not deny the evidence and he made changes to his view
Read his story below

https://www.jw.org/finder?srcid=jwlshare&wtlocale=E&prefer=lang&docid=1102021203&par=55


Concerning Daniel prophecy on Greece becoming world power, click the link below. It is a video describing the prophecy and how it got fulfilled. Remember I mentioned the Bible said that The King of Greece would not last and his sons won't be given rulership but it will be divided into four empires. Click below

https://www.jw.org/finder?srcid=jwlshare&wtlocale=E&prefer=lang&docid=1102021203&par=52

Concerning the prophecies being fulfilled today, click below

https://www.jw.org/finder?srcid=jwlshare&wtlocale=E&prefer=lang&docid=1102021203&par=50

Concerning prophecies about the future, I will not mention to you yet until you dispute the ones fulfilled I dropped and the ones we're seeing.

Even the a deadman won't deny the evidence

For the last time, quote the relevant Bible passages
Im not interested in your JW antics and lies

Aemmyjah:
Before your analysis
You're already biased against the Bible
First
Go and do research about the time Isaiah lived (if you even believe he existed) and the timing fall of babylon and who overthrew it and whether it fell by a battle or not

Go and check the succeeding world powers. Confirm if Babylon was succeeded by Medopersia; if Medopersia was succeeded by Greece; if Greece was succeeded by Rome; confirm if Rome was overthrown or not (cos the Bible said that Rome will disintegrate completely); confirm if Britain was initially a small, insignificant nation or not; confirm if Britain actually defeated three nations more powerful and richer than it to become world power; use your eyes to see if the world power today is as powerful as the previous world powers and influential and having full or weak authority on its subjects.

If you have done all that, we can start but if you won't. There's nothing I'll bring up about bible prophecies cos already, you rejected what it said concerning Health, the shape of the earth and many others and still you won't accept prophecies

I have no response to this, til you post the relevant bible passages. Thank You

Aemmyjah:
Ok
In a new thread or here?

You can open a new thread so as to get more inputs. Tag me too. Thank You

Aemmyjah:
Lol
Where are Zeus records?
Where are his Witnesses to establish he is not a fiction
Obviously, you've not read about Zeus
You're saying nonsense

Concerning why I said you're a fool is this
You're not too different from someone who visited an island yesterday and slept there. When he wakes up, he sees a house but how and who put it there, he did not know. He says 'ha, this house came by itself'

Again, I have to teach you everything. But what can I do. Religion and knowledge are parallels
https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=https://www.britannica.com/topic/Zeus&ved=2ahUKEwjPmPiipoj8AhVUiv0HHeFOB5gQFnoECAgQAQ&usg=AOvVaw3gCmuxMfUswbZ4aLf009it
This is talking about the history of Zeus
https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zeus&ved=2ahUKEwiz6-Sbpoj8AhVd_7sIHUltDfQQFnoECDEQAQ&usg=AOvVaw3no_26w9QlFytTAwLHGi_r

https://theculturetrip.com/europe/greece/articles/meet-the-greeks-who-worship-the-ancient-gods/

Aemmyjah:
Mention one LANGUAGELESS tribe of humans. Only one

I know I have to teach you everything, but Google the Silbo Gomero language

Aemmyjah:
Good ,all are humans. Normal humans and not Apemen
In order for them to make us believe their mythical fiction, they draw pictures for us to make us believe that those men actually exists. Imagine! From an old skull, they could construct an organism

I can reconstruct your image from your bones and genetic studies. And not just their skulls, they got their total skeletons. And those apemen have exactly our genes, so you have no leeway to escape that

Aemmyjah:
Lol, 'well documented and explained indeed' but when you read about them, you see lots of 'it is believed' or 'it is likely'. Where are the evidence?
Show us a genuine picture of one of your ancestor that had a tail

When did apes become religious? Necessary for survival?

Of course they weren't around millions of years ago, so they can use 'it is believed' because their research points to it.
Its rich a theist who believe the Bible wholeheartedly even though it wasn't backed with a shred of historical or archaeological evidence, is questioning years of scientific research backed by genetic and archaeological studies
You're indeed the monkey here

Aemmyjah:
I don't want link
Quote it here for all to see as I did mine
What has Atheists got t do with religious books when they see it as mere literature and myth? Use your head

Bro, youre just funny. A link gives you more information than an excerpt. Fine, I even gave you an excerpt , yet you don't read. Na wao

Aemmyjah:
So no religion in China?
No morals in China?

You're indeed an Ape

China is mostly atheistic.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Religion_in_China

Even many Scandinavian countries are getting more atheistic

Aemmyjah:
Does something exists because you believe it does?

Does something not exist simply because you don't believe in it?

Ape is what you're acting like

Then show me proof it exists? If you can't, then it doesn't exist. Simple

Aemmyjah:
Lol
Speculations or facts?
See that you reason like ape
Did gravity create itself
Newton was a Concentrated christian. He knew the Bible. He loved the Bible. Go and research about him and Priestley
Newton said the return of Jesus Christ will be invisible. He was the first to say so and he was correct!!


Liar, talk as if I don't know anything about Newton

Lol. Newton was a deist, at best.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Religious_views_of_Isaac_Newton
Newton was an unusual Christian. At some point in his adult years, and certainly by 1690, Newton had dismantled the standard biblical proofs for the doctrine of the Trinity whilst keeping his beliefs to himself.
About Priestley, he's also different and doesn't believe all these trash you do. He styles his own as 'rational christianity'

He entered the Dissenting Academy at Daventry, Northamptonshire, in 1752. Dissenters, so named for their unwillingness to conform to the Church of England, were prevented by the Act of Uniformity (1662) from entering English universities. Priestley received an excellent education in philosophy, science, languages, and literature at Daventry, where he became a “furious freethinker” in religion. He renounced the Calvinist doctrines of original sin and atonement, and he embraced a rational Unitarianism that rejected the Trinity and asserted the perfectibility of man.
https://www.britannica.com/biography/Joseph-Priestley


So don't push it, bro

Aemmyjah:
Good, now listen carefully thou Apeman with ape understanding

1. Yes, e.g, a disc but if that is your own view of the earth, it is your own problem not mine. It was you that added the lie that the Bible says the earth was flat. The Hebrew word of circle according to Isaiah 40:22 shows that it means a sphere. If you no believe, check the internet for commentary on that verse.

2. Reset your brains. There's no hospital here in earth that can do that but I'll recommend you go and see a Blacksmith to help you. Again, nowhere in the Bible did God say anyman should eat dung

3. I asked you initially to read the entire leviticus cos it highlights the process one must take in cleansing and when that is done. He is confirmed as cleansed when the priests sprinkle water on him. You did not do that but cos you only say sprinkling water, you think that act alone is washing. You need sense

4. According to biology, metrology, geography, geology, the basic description of rain formation is evaporation. Condensation and precipitation. These process only confirms what the Bible says. This is a proof of your ignorance in sciences and you claim to be a doctor. Liar!

5. It seems you're sincere though you HATE truth. Read Isaiah 44:27- 45:2. That verse is regarding how Babylon was overthrown and the name of the conquerer. But about the fate of babylon, read Isaiah 13:17-20. Then do research on the internet about the time Isaiah lived and when the prophecy was fulfilled

6. I hear about him. Many of his prophecies are very inaccurate. Few has to do with mankind and others are just dragged or modified by his followers about how events take place but whatever the case may be, he comes nowhere near the prophecies of the Bible which are ALWAYS accurate

7. Sorry bro, I won't. Either I am the one making this up or I know it won't help you. You seem to know how a eye can evolve from a patch of light but don't know these ones. If I were you, I will reason that such prophecies can just be wirtten in a verse of just a chapter. I'll need to read Daniel itself and find the evidence but the brains of apes are lazy. Again, go and read Daniel or forget about it. You won't read it cos it is not Nostradamus or Darwin that wrote it.

8. Intelligent of you!!!
Yes, earth has ALWAYS been plagued with battles, famines, earthquakes, selfishness, etc. Agreed
But Jesus Christ did not say that one or two or three of these things will occur or that they will happen on some parts of the EARTH. Jesus christ said that ALL these things will happen earth wide. The first world war began in 1914 and in 1945, there was a second world war and since then, we have been hearing of wars and armed conflict within and without and between nations including the ones today. The sign Jesus Christ gave is compared to a fingerprint. The shortages of food today is not caused by famine or lack of rain unlike those centuries. Politics and greeedy merchant and climate change caused by man as well as foreign exchange has affected things though we produce more food than then according to FAO but millions go to bed hungry and are malnourished and die cos of problems caused by lack or good food. Note that it is in our era that Man is causing great damage to his environment and atmosphere that we're on the brink of destruction by 'environmental armageddon' as science predicts. As for morals, despite all the education, religion, police, traditional and moral values, people are going from bad to worse. Things that used to be abominable to mention in those days are practiced freely. Today, a girl can brag about the money she made from sleeping with a dog. This moral breakdown is a pandemic and people are getting worse as Bible said. When that prophecy was penned, people were still morally stable

9. Go and find them yourself if you REALLY want to know. Why do you mention please as if you were sincere. There is not just Archaeological discoveries but secular history to prove them including today. The Anglo-american world power. Go and read Daniel and Revelation 6 or forget about it

10. Jesus christ mentioned among his prophecies that the good news of the Kingdom will be in all the inhabited earth. You're seeing the fulfillment. You've seen such people as you acknowledge both in the public, buses and they come to your homes.

1. Again, for the last time, the passage says Circle, not sphere or geoid. And no, I'm not reading comments made by bigots like you that are ignorant
2. What has my post got to do with a hospital?
3. Right. So since you read the whole of Leviticus, can you point to the right chapter or verse where it talked about washing with soap or any hygienic practice
4. Obviously u skipped geography classes in sec school. This is the rain cycle. U missed convection. The full rain cycle is evaporation, convection, condensation and precipitation. Waste of school fees
https://www.noaa.gov/education/resource-collections/freshwater/water-cycle#:~:text=Liquid%20water%20evaporates%20into%20water,through%20the%20atmosphere%20(transportation).
5. So this is Isaiah 44:27-45:2
King James Version
27 That saith to the deep, Be dry, and I will dry up thy rivers:

28 That saith of Cyrus, He is my shepherd, and shall perform all my pleasure: even saying to Jerusalem, Thou shalt be built; and to the temple, Thy foundation shall be laid.

45 Thus saith the Lord to his anointed, to Cyrus, whose right hand I have holden, to subdue nations before him; and I will loose the loins of kings, to open before him the two leaved gates; and the gates shall not be shut;

2 I will go before thee, and make the crooked places straight: I will break in pieces the gates of brass, and cut in sunder the bars of iron

This is Isaiah 13:17-20
Isaiah 13:17-20
New International Version
17 See, I will stir up against them the Medes,
who do not care for silver
and have no delight in gold.
18 Their bows will strike down the young men;
they will have no mercy on infants,
nor will they look with compassion on children.
19 Babylon, the jewel of kingdoms,
the pride and glory of the Babylonians,[a]
will be overthrown by God
like Sodom and Gomorrah.
20 She will never be inhabited
or lived in through all generations;
there no nomads will pitch their tents,
there no shepherds will rest their flocks.

It just talks about Babylon being overthrown and nothing else
So if you have better Bible verses to back up your claims, do show

6. Oh I don't expect all his predictions to be accurate. He's only human. Your Bible predictions are plain whack compared to his. Did your Bible predict 9/11? But he did. So keep your lies to yourself
7. Lol. This is crazy funny. You posted all the verses talking mundane stuff, but to post the Bible passage predicting the future, you suddenly deflected it. Sorry bro. I'm no fool. I have read your storybook and no predictions are correct
8. Lol. You obviously don't want to face the truth. You said your scammer Jesus said earthquake, epidemic, wars etc would happen all over the world. There's some part of the world that can't have earthquakes like West Africa, Arab nations etc. Its not possible because of how their tectonic plates are arranged. Neither would the later have floods because they're mostly in deserts. So Jesus is dead wrong. Also shortage of food is due to the economic impact of covid and the Ukraine Russian war. Try and stay grounded. Also I thought in early Bible times were immoral. Wasn't it when Sodom and Gomorrah was around. When gay people demand to rape angels. How many gays invade homes to rape people these days?
9. Ah, my brother. You're a comedian. You're now pushing me(an atheist) to look for historical and archaeological evidences backing the Bible? Lol. You think if I have seen them I'd be an atheist? You guys are plain funny. Because you dont have them you want me to go look for something that doesn't exist
10. Yeah I have seen them. But they tend to avoid me after I engage them. And they're not smart too, like you. Tell your jesus to send smarter guys, these ones around (including you n MadMax) are just plain cretards

Maynman:
Where did i talk about that?

Scroll up. I was quoting Dliespeaker, not you

Maynman:
What never happened?

The nations of Israel gathering in 1947

FatherOfJesus:
a lot of times, you think that you make sense but not knowing that you are a big fool

Quite a big fool. Dude is big on dissembling

Dtruthspeaker:
All Deviation from Post!

You always put up that decoy when you're caught. We're not fools

Dtruthspeaker:
You know them already you are just being evil.

Ezekiel 37:21-25
Say to them, ‘Thus says the Lord God, “Behold, I will take the sons of Israel from among the nations where they have gone, and I will gather them from every side AND BRING THEM INTO THEIR OWN LAND; and I will make them one nation in the land, on the mountains of Israel; and one king will be king for all of them; and they will no longer be two nations and no longer be divided into two kingdoms.

AND WE SEE TODAY, ISREAL CAME BACK IN 1947 AND THEY ARE KNOWN AS ONE COUNTRY/NATION. NO MORE ISRAEL AND JUDEA!

Jeremiah 23:3-8
“Then I Myself will gather the remnant of My flock out of all the countries where I have driven them and bring them back to their pasture, and they will be fruitful and multiply.

Isaiah 11:11-12.

This never happened in Israel. Guess you haven't bothered to read their history before

[quote author=Maynman post=119021965][/quote]This never happened. I guess you have never bothered to read Israel history

Lighthouse50:
Amputee finger bla bla bla.. I only said miracles are real and done by true christians (saints).

Are you saying non christians can't get healed?