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Aemmyjah:
I believe that life did not AND CANNOT emerge from non Life
I believe that nothing can come from nothing
Believe that every design has a designer including that of the natural world
I believe that like kinds reproduce according to their own kinds

Go and believe your nonsense

So who designed the designer?

Emperordynasty:
I you should shut up already
Because you know Christians are peaceful that’s why you insult and speak against The faith any chance you get

You claim you don’t belive in God generally but the brunt of your anger is only on Christianity
Oga , Christians are just half the population of Nigerians o
Why not also talk down on Islam or African traditional religion aren’t they worshiping a God that doesn’t exist too
Typical Nigerian atheist , dumb wannabes that want to act like they no anything when all they want is an excuse to live immoral lives without consequences

Atheists attack Muslims online too. I do. But christians are much more vociferous and raucous and always attract our attentions. Also most of us are ex-christians, so naturally we debate with christians since we know their Holy book too and can quote it also. If we encounter Muslims, we give them the same treatment
So don't think you're special bro

OfficialAPCNig:
What makes you think juju does not exist. I am curious to know your thoughts

1. If it does exist, many African countries wouldn't have been subdued and defeated by the whiteman who used only muskets(ancient guns). Despite the sheer number of those African armies and their witch doctors, the relatively fewer Whitemen invaded, killed and captured them, including the juju carvings. To those our ancestors those carvings were our gods and possessed great powers. To the white man, it was some good sculpture with nice designs. So those 'great and powerful' juju were carted away in dirty stinky cartons So much for powerful voodoo. Same scenario repeated itself in many African and African originated countries like Nigeria, South Africa, Haiti etc. Your Benin bronze head that was carved and revered by the ancient Edo Kingdom(revered til now to be the headquarters of witchcraft in Nigeria ) were amongst artifacts stolen
2. If actually they exist, their owners would have been filthy rich. I mean all they have to do is teleport to CBN or many bank vaults, steal the money and get out. But nothing of such happens
3. James Randi, an ex-magician set up a challenge for any supernatural practitioner including pastors, shamans, psychics etc. Show us your power and cart away 1mil usd. Simple. Til he died, nobody showed up. Upon living in the US which is the hotbed of Pentecostal miracle workers, none dared come forward. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/One_Million_Dollar_Paranormal_Challenge
There was a similar challenge by a Nigerian atheist for 2m naira on Twitter but nobody showed up. Instead people were telling him to go to hinterlands. But its a challenge, he doesn't need to go anywhere. People go to shows like Nigeria got Talents etc and showcase what they got, the show doesn't go around looking for artistes or gymnasts. Even at that, the young man visited such hinterlands but came up empty. The problem about going to those juju priest shrines is that those venues are rigged out to perform the 'magic'
4. If you notice, with the ubiquity of cameras , yet no video exists of any pastor healing amputees. Nope. All you see are healed sickle cell, infertility etc, stuff we can't verify. Amputees are on the streets, with many of them in orthopedic hospitals in Igbobi, Enugu etc
5. I have had 2 personal challenges with dudes here who claim to have supernatural powers. One said he heals the sick and a pastor, RoyalDiadems. Turns out he's a fake. He even threatened me with madness. I begged him to go ahead. Til now he disappeared and hasnt replied any of my prompts. Another is a supposed juju priest. I told him to make me mad or curse me. Same outcome, fake
So bro, no, I don't believe in those nonsense. But if you got proof, do let me know

OfficialAPCNig:
This is serious.

By this admission, does it mean you believe our deities, let me say, Igbo deities, are powerless or don't exist.

I am curious to know. Awaiting your reply please.

I don't believe in any supernatural. That translates to no belief in any god, devil, demon, Allah, Yahweh, juju etc. Is it too hard for y'all to understand?

Angelfrost:
Are you done ranting??!

Is there any further need to vent your life frustrations?!!

If no, then happy Sunday!!!

Typical theist!
Challenge him to prove himself and watch him resort to insults. Its so predictable from you guys

KnownUnknown:
The theory of evolution is being used in all manner of endeavors.
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/25567966/

Can you say the same thing about the idea that the Hebrew god created everything? aka “creationism”

If the guy is actually a biologist, it may not be his fault he doesn't understand evolution. The educational system is royally and totally fvckd

Aemmyjah:
I accept biological FACTS
I don't accept FACTS that don't undergo scientific method but based on assumptions

Obviously you haven't been reading your own biology texts because evolution is explained in much better details there. Even medical texts accept evolutionary process. I'm sorry you aint a biologist
From someone that believes that snakes and donkeys talk, sun stood still, a fish swallowed and spewed out a human alive; its rich that you actually want 'scientific methods' and not 'assumptions' or fairy tales

Aemmyjah:
Na by force?!
He said he's not an ape and you're pushing it in him
If you are an ape. Call yourself an ape before calling another man an ape

Does he look like an ape?
Does you share your apish thinking?
His father is not an ape, his 100th father was not an ape, neither of his ancestors down to the last one is or was an ape

If you want to see an ape, you either go to a zoo or a forest or you look at your mirror

He can speak intelligently, learn new things, show love and compassion for fellow man and animals. He can sing, explore, enjoy music, appreciate nature, show judgment, solve complex problems, mathematical problems and do millions of things apes can't do. His level of intelligence is a million times higher than that of apes... Shame on you.
He believes in God, he knows someone made him and for that, he is here for a purpose. His existence on earth is not meaningless or purposeless as ape-men evolutinist believe. His existence is for a purpose and he can find meaning in life unlike evolutionist that say life has no meaning, no good or bad. He has morals, he has conscience too. He has hopes.
If your religious leaders or philosophers tell you you are an ape, then why push it in others. He is not an ape. Call yourself an ape before calling someone else. Stop being ignorant and pushy and respect his opinion... I see all the nonsense you been typing. You need a Blacksmith to solve your problems. How will you call sarscov an animal that evolved? Mention one scientist that have said such...

Faith is not gullible but only gullible people will put faith in all your assumptions of evolution

… and you call yourself a biologist
Why bother to read biology if you don't believe in it?

Michael547:
I am not an ape I beg your pardon.
How can the bird still be a finch and a new organism instead of a new specie of finch that is still made up of the same biological structure as its parents?

Yes humans are actually apes. Its not our fault you're terrible in biology
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ape

IsaacGeorge29:
Fellow christians and Atheists, there is no need to argue about the truth in scienc and the creation story in th bible and all that.

That is a topic that will ALWAYS astound man to the end of the world, why?

Because God said so...

Romans 4:17-18:
“(As it is written, I have made you a father of many nations) in the presence of him whom he believed — God, who gives life to the dead and calls those things which do not exist as though they did...

It's simple, when God created the heavens and the earth, all of that did not just pop into existence as alot of christians would want to believe.

Instead the things he created seemed to have existed aleady.

Who knows just how far back the earth was created when there was nothing at all on it except chaos and void...

“… The earth was without form and void, and darkness was over the face of the deep. And the Spirit of God was hovering over the face of the waters” (Genesis 1:2)

But in a few days time, man was already walking the earth,

But following th scientific facts there were lots of ERAs before man came along.

So the reason for the Paradox is simple... God made it that way.

It's pretty much the same in the case of supernatural healings, where the dead part or affected part is suddenly made whole as if was always like that... (I believe no one can argue with that).

The earth was created with a history of billions of years.

Another exemplary case is the case of Authors; They create books in a day, that has a story that starts from 2000 years in the past or 2000 years into the future (I believe I'm not the onlu one who's read this kind of novels, especially mangas and wuxia novels).

And the bible says: "Looking to Jesus, the author and perfecter of our faith,..."
Hebrews 12:2

So God "Wrote" the story of creation that starts from billions and probably trillions of years back.

So as you can see we should srike a balance in our view of creation the scientist are half right and most christians are also half right...

After all the world is a physical world, so it's not possible that it has a spiritual beginning, and also Author of the world is a spirit so the backbone of the world and all of creation is in the spiritual with God.

Any comments on this?

Do you have proof the Bible is divinely written? Because, here we are, talking about the origin of species, and you suddenly dump the Bible on us, like its some special book

Workch:
TWhen a dice is spinning, it’s hard to say exactly where it will end, it doesn’t mean that you should accept the fact that the dice is spinning by faith.

Look at the animal below in the picture, is that animal a fish or amphibian?
That’s probably hard to call for someone who doesn’t really know the animal. This animal breath both on land and in water comfortably.
It has an organ capable of breathing water and air.
This animals evolutionary trend is very predictable because we know that this animal has always lived in the water and it’s a fish, but right now it’s adapting to live on land, it’s fins over generations are tilting towards walking on land. It’s gills are changing to something that can breath air but it’s still a fish and it will remain a fish for a long time.

However, it’s most likely going to evolve into something that specifically lives on land in many years and it might even evolve back into a solely aquatic animals depending on the environment.

How did we know this? we cannot find the fossil of this exact kind of fish in the record 10million years ago, so we know that this feature didn’t exist forever.

Theyre called Live Fossils. Many examples abound

Aemmyjah:
Do you know what they call leading question?
I knew why I asked him
Max is my brother

Worsh is not an atheist like you
He does not even know his 'religion' or 'philosophy'
He's just an indecisive cherrypicker

Whether atheist or agnostic, all irrelevant. After all people answer other peeps questions, here. What if I say Workch is my brother?
Obviously you don't know what cherry-picking is. Get a dictionary, bro

Aemmyjah:
You are talking nonsense
That's all you do
Talk nonsense that has no basis to look wise

Lol. Simple question. Do you believe Jesus came without exchange of genetic materials. You've been jumping all over the place and dodging this question

Workch:
I have never even read any agnostic book in my life. Is that a thing?

Dude can't use a dictionary. Pity

Aemmyjah:
Why speak for him?

I see you defending MadMax and other Weaknesses. So why can't I defend Workch?

Aemmyjah:
Lol, Ida was headlines in the Guardian USA as the missing link

Weeks later, in a science journal. Ida was no longer the missing link

I didn’t say it wasn't the headlines. Read to understand. You said they called journalists. Anthropologists don't invite journalists.
And by the way, it is still regarded as the missing link, even though some quarters don't agree. I still don't understand what this has got to do about the questions you have been dodging, including the paternity of Jesus

Aemmyjah:
Lol
You don't know whether there is a God or not
Why do you ask me that question as if you cared to know

I don't know who told you God created everything in 6 days
See, Bible says God made everything according to their own kinds. They did not evolve from each other

Genesis 1:6

And it was so. God saw everything that he had made, and indeed, it was very good. And there was evening and there was morning, the sixth day.
Thus the heavens and the earth were finished, and all their multitude. And on the seventh day God finished the work that he had done, and he rested on the seventh day from all the work that he had done.

Aemmyjah:
You came to his defense right?

When he could not provide evidence that DNA can be created? Earth is flat according to Bible? Living cells can be created? Mutations are beneficial?
Were you sleeping?

And I provided links to back his claims for you, which you ignored. So yes, I'm defending him

Aemmyjah:
Lol
So when scientist use a bone or bones or skull or half skull and reconstruct it into an organism, you expect us to believe that they've found a missing link right?

Now tell me, why is it that when they found a 'missing link', they invite journalist and it is on major newspapers but weeks later after further investigation, they see that it is no missing link, they don't invite journalist or put it in major newspapers, they only put it on science journal. How will everyone know?
For example, Fossil Ida

I dont understand what you're talking about. Scientists don't invite journalists on anthropological findings. They publish it on journals. Fossil Ida was hailed as a missing link to evolution and it is being challenged by the same scientists. That is science. If anything doesn't stand up to much scrutiny, it is discarded. However Ida has helped in revealing some info on evolution
https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.theguardian.com/science/2009/may/19/fossil-ida-missing-link

sukkot:
juju pass juju. white man juju is stronger. white man dey use the power of the full moon and eclipse to conquer nations. all the places he conquered he showed up on a full moon . christopher columbus showed up to hispaniola on a full moon. these white people juju dey very strong. dont let them deceive you that they dont use juju

Omo, your education was a waste

johnw47:
Ecclesiastes 7:6
For as the crackling of thorns under a pot, so is the laughter of the fool


continued gibberish

Lol. I'm not Maynmann. I don't have your time to engage you. Move along

MrPresident1:
You are without excuse

Lol. My guy don run. Alright see you later

Aemmyjah:
You can even make up your mind
You cherypick what you want to believe
That is your own problem
If I knew I was conversations with a very indecisive person, I would have saved my time
All the best in your agnosticism

Its not cherrypicking, its scientific research and logical reasoning

Aemmyjah:
Let's say we agree with him on that
If monkeys are the first line of ancestry just to assume
Later chimps and gorillas are on that line
Where are the ape-men we see in books
We need to see just 1 to believe as we already have millions of our far ancestors all over the world today
He does not apply wisdom in scientific philosophy

All monkeys, humans originated from a common ape-like ancestors. And those ancestors aren't around, all we see are their bones all over the world. From their bones we studied them using science and arrived at our conclusion
It looks like the biology you said you read was a waste. I first heard about evolution in secondary school biology. And here we are schooling a supposed biologist what evolution actually is

Aemmyjah:
From what modern science tells us about life and reproduction

Do you believe humans descend from animals? That we have a common ancestor?

Look how you dodged his question. Its a yes or no question

Aemmyjah:
Read Daniel and Luke

I thought I said you shouldn't quote your storybook?
Just like a Muslim telling you Aemmyjah that Allah exists and you ask him proofs and he quotes the Quran. Would you believe it?

Aemmyjah:
Good for you
Dribbling yourself to avoid embarrassment
Does not accept creation
Does not accept Bible
Does not accept atheism
Which one are you? Pantheist?

He's an agnostic. He has said so before. At least if you don't know what it is, don't tell me you can't use a dictionary

Aemmyjah:
As a scientist, I won't accept assumptions or pictural illustrations in scientific myths.

Good. If u can't accept it can you show us your counter arguments and evidence? You don't want to accept it and you're not interested in show counter proofs or reasons why they're lies, and you're here telling us you're a biologist. Humans do have tail bones. Google coccyx. Some babies are even born with tails. So what are you even arguing about?
By the way, when did Livescience website become scientific myth?

Aemmyjah:
Lol, the same book is the best seller of all time
Same book is the most translated book
The most attacked book of all time but survived bans, persecution, fires,etc
The most distributed and most accessible book
The book that changes lives
The book that gives comfort to many
Do you know any evolutionary book that has 1 of these things I mentioned? You that claim to have wisdom (reversed Wisdom), have you considered your lifespan with this book?
Like your critics past and present, you will die, go, become history and forever forgotten

Can you show me any anthropological or historical event that backs the Bible?

johnw47:
then you should be posting to those nigerians that
compare themselves to the average Scandinavian, Chinese etc

and you should be posting to those nigerians who run to other countries at the slightest chance but lambast them at the same time

Lol. People even give testimonies in churches of how god gave them visa to atheistic countries like Iceland etc and you're here talking

MrPresident1:
God created everything over the course of millions of years. Stop propagating idiocy

Can you give us evidence apart from your storybook

MaxInDHouse:
YES!
You!
If a gorilla suddenly knows how to talk surely it will insist on his opinion just as you're doing now. You know your ancestors that's why you feel we share the same ancestors simply because you can talk like me!

If you know Comparative Anatomy, you'll know we had ancestors like us that are ape-like. But since your brain can't comprehend elementary biological concepts like evolution, Comparative Anatomy would sound like rocket science to you