achorladey: When I see this their political reasoning what comes to my mind is....
UN library card and Malawi 25 cent party card.
Libraries everywhere from time to time update their procedures and regulations for membership and public access to their resources.
JWs were granted membership to the UN library many years (about 5 years) prior to the changes to the UN library's mode of operations.
JWs terminated access to UN library resources when we found out their procedures had changed & were untenable to us. No big deal. We have moved on. But WAILERS can continue to WAIL & console themselves with that.
JWs experienced grievous injustice in that African country for our neutral stand on politics. About a decade or so ago, the government "repented" & granted JWs freedom of worship & assembly
Deadlytruth: .1. Yes we reject JWs because they started it all. 2. We are admonished by the Bible to have nothing to do not with unbelievers but with those who claim to be believers in words but manifest contrary actions. 3. No you preach against anything in conflict with your organization's doctored version of the bible and the whims and caprices of your elders in New York.
The rejection started from the sermons from Church pulpits... How many persons get liver to disobey their Church pastors who drank tea with their 3 deities ? .
Bros, be very frank. Your no2 statement , please shed more light on the bolded portion.. what's your point?
JWs believe firmly in John 3:16 & John 20:17. Bros, is John 20:17 & John 3:16 JWs doctored version & the whims and caprices of your elders in New York?"
BassReeves: Sometimes, you just have to play the role of a fool, to fool, the fool, who thinks they are fooling you, in not knowing that Kingsnairaland aka the dishonest Bishopkingsley and his alter ego Betscoreodds are the one and same poster.
Among other evidences, all three posters misspell support as surport, whats the odd of that happening?
haddeylium: You seems to know little about religious activities in RUSSIA. Russian Orthodox services are sparsely-populated and mainly by old people, JW meetings are jam-packed and the majority in attendance are young people. MAJORITY of Russians claim to follow the RO, very few of them actually practice the religion ACTIVELY. Also JWs have an active teaching program that annoys the ROC priest and religious leaders. The ROC is then using their privilege as the most polluted group in RUSSIA plus JWs neutrality. No serious politician will wants to support JWs if he wants to keeps his position
check this video of ROC priest and their led protest against them
rottennaija: Still, I asked for evidence that the orthodox Church is asking Putin to target JWs. Where is he evidence? Has watchtower provided any or it is part of your conspiracies theories just so you have feel good?
Bros, go & find out the Russian govt legislation introduced to pose restrictions on the practice of other Faiths in Russia. Find out who lobbied for those legislation to be enacted. Na everything we go spoon-feed you?
achorladey: I can only hope you get a response. As in word for word as you place that question
Did you see the word "animal" at Acts 15:29?
Or is it animal fornication you saw @ Acts15:29? "Abstain from blood" is as simple as A, B, C.
If you reject that command, it's your own cup of tea. 1 John 5:3 God's righteous commandments are not burdensome. You have no right to criticize those who obey God. Hebrews 5:7 & 11:17-19,After all, did Jesus Christ & Abraham not know that obedience to God would cost loss of life?
Deadlytruth: A true believer would in the first instance understand that politics should not be an unhealthy competition hence he wouldn't even get involved to the extent of struggling negatively in it. And pray tell me any human endeavor that can't and doesn't have the capacity to degenerate into deadly rivalry.
Your citation of John 13: 34 - 35 doesn't prove that Jesus was against participation in earthly government or politics. His avoidance was simply because it would forestall his salvation project of dying on the cross. Now, do all Christians equally have to die on the cross to save the world?
Secondly, just before Jesus was taken back to heaven his disciples asked him when God would fulfill his promise of restoring their earthly government to them as a country. By that the disciples demonstrated interest in how they were being politically governed. They obviously wanted an end to the extant Roman imperialism. But did Jesus rebuke them for being interested in earthly governance of their country. A big no. Rather Jesus reaffirmed the promise and reassured them of its fulfilment in due time. In Romans 16:23 Paul transmitted calvary greetings from Erastus a political office holder in the Government of Rome.... meaning that Paul recognized a politician as a worthy member of the church.
Romans 16:23 "23 Gaius, whose hospitality I and the whole church here enjoy, sends you his greetings.
Erastus, who is the city’s director of public works, and our brother Quartus send you their greetings. "
Erastus is a high ranking public servant not politician.
Did Jesus promise his followers a political solution in due time?
achorladey: You get to wonder may they see these other Christian denominations with cutlasses, swords bombs guns armour tanks when going to their gatherings
Why do Achorladey "get to wonder" about those he claims are worshipping his God? Bros,your God no teach you the same thing HE teach JWs?
Blyzz: But JW members don't behave like a patriotic citizen. They don't cast vote during election day. They don't speak out even when religion other speak. Yet they blamed bad governance! So who'll speak and fight for them.
How do you apply Jesus statement @ John 17:16?
Did Jesus speak out against political leaders of his time?
Did Jesus Christ fight for the Jews against Roman oppression? 1 John 5:19 ,is the reason for bad governance.
Deadlytruth: Honestly. They are full of comedy. And come to think of it, when they come to preach, deep down in their minds their ultimate objective is not to preach peace and love but to condemn your own belief and tell you that they know God in a special way than everyone else. That is simply arrogance and pride. They want you to collect their tracts while they reject yours like a plague. Is that how to be peaceful and peace loving?
Your fellow Church members too reject JWs publications like plague. Bros, " is that how to be peaceful and peace loving?" Bros," is that "simply arrogance and pride?". We preach against anything in conflict with your own Bible.
worlexy: Many people have died from the extremist’s view of Jehovah witness that their members should not receive blood transfusion because of the twisted Bible verse that children of God should not drink the blood of animals like the occultists do.
How does drinking animal blood and receiving blood transfusion to save one’s life be interpreted as the same?
Jehovah witness should stop this extremism and allow people live.
Blood loss is the number killer of women during childbirth in this part of the world, and to reduce or stop death from blood loss is by blood transfusion which the teachings of JW stand against and this has been leading many into early grave.
Acts 15:29 Abstain from blood, from sexual immorality".
1 John 5:3 This is what the love of God means, that we obey His commandments, and yet his commandments are not burdensome."
Bros, did your own Bible tell you obedience to God's commandments is "extremism"?
* Bros, What is life-saving about a medical procedure that kills 24% of recipient patients within 12 months?
* Bros, what is life saving about a medical procedure that kills 30% of recipient patients within 2 years & 50% within 10 years?
What is life saving about a medical procedure that suppresses your immunity & increases your vulnerability to other life threatening diseases?
We love our God, let JWs exercise their rights to please God and worship HIM. Bros, live & let live.
Nancy2020: When I was in secondary school my friend said their family was going to take my parents house when Armageddon comes, that it was going to appear soon I was shocked because it was the first time I heard such doctrine. It is sad her parents are now dead and she finally saw the light and left JW. Once in a while she and I would joke about those times she believed in a Bubble doctrine from JW hell. Now she attends a good church where she hears about Jesus. It is just a question of time people will get tired of lies, she found out no organization can truly save you. Glory to our God Jesus.
Your last sentence... John 17:6-7. John 20:17, did Jesus Christ reject your claim?
achorladey: Na the same business una dey now. You build kingdom halls dedicated to Jehovah and sell it to pastorpreneurs who have been known to be your past, present and future buyers and sellers.
KNOWMORE56: Is Jesus God or not? If he's not give me your reasons let's cross check them in the Word...
You confirmed your God Jesus is an angel. Angel of whom? Bros, preach that doctrine to Emusan, Hupernikao, PARACLETOS, true2god, maximumimpact, Rutherfo,Achorladey & ALL your fellow Polytheists worshipping 3 persons.
KNOWMORE56: Even in that their Bible perversion mistaken to be Bible version Jesus is called God.
*. John 20:28 NWT: In answer Thomas said to him: “My Lord and MY GOD!”
*. Isaiah 9:6 NWT: "For a child has been born to us,+ A son has been given to us; And the rulership* will rest on his shoulder.+ His name will be called Wonderful Counselor,+ MIGHTY GOD,+ Eternal Father, Prince of Peace."
he (Janosky) should tell us what kind of God Jesus is.
The God that was with the Father from the beginning, John 1:1;
Was He a false God yet He was with the Father from the beginning?
Watch Tower devotees ways of reasoning...
See as the Bros dey lie lie on this public forum. Is the word Jesus ho Theos @ John 1:1? Is Jesus ho Theos @ John 14:1? Is Jesus ho Theos @ John 20:17? Is Jesus Christ ho Theos @ John 20:28? These clowns DECEIVING themselves
Hosea 12:3-4, Psalms 8:5,angel is called God. Is angel false God?
achorladey: That post no dance to your tune. See as you cancel everything. Original copy still dey there. Cancel am from now till tomorrow. Na reality I show you so. What is good for the goose applies to the gander.
Spare me your other denominations are not organization. When those ones contribute to their organizations too. They say it is for God and owned by God. Reason am. Na same of same. Thanks for cancelling my words once again.
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The screenshot evidence says it all. Bros, continue DECEIVING yourself.
maximunimpact: OUR NEW TOPIC OF DISCUSSION HAVE ARRIVED!!!
Contradictions, Another Contradictions & more Contradictions
We are told to be witnesses in the New Testament, but not once are we referred to as Jehovah’s Witnesses. Why be called a name "given to you by God," only to change it three more times?
Comment your thoughts below.......
Isaiah 43:10-12 (ASV) is Jehovah's Witnesses the name Jehovah God calls His chosen servants? Yes !!!! John 17:6-7,Acts 15:14,17, did Jesus Christ & the disciples agree? Yes !!!!!!!!!!!
Must Maximumimpact quote GIBBERISH even though his own Bible is against it ?
achorladey: [s]We know you don't run operating costs expenses for the kingdom halls where you dey meet for your gatherings. Why una no abandon it or maintain am come see how LDC go put am up for sale and increase the distance to cover for your meetings.
By then you will see that you equally pay a fee and your hard earned money and free hard labour (used when constructing the kingdom halls) to service property you cannot lay one single claim over when they put it up for sale. :[/s]o
Achorladey ,Come here and continue DECEIVING yourself & LYING to the public that your "other denominations" are not Organizations.
John 17:6-7,Acts 15:14,17 , Hebrews 13:17, is Jesus & the disciples members of Jehovah's organization owned by JEHOVAH God?
achorladey: With repeatedly stating the rules regularly here without following it. His first topic he created with his new moniker is that they should completely follow the order of his religious leaders but here he is still responding to our comments. He and his brother will come and hide behind correcting MISCONCEPTIONS about their religious organization. That, this is the basis for responding to our fictitious claims from their magazines where those claims came from and they will still use the words us they call liars as truth.
Should they decide to follow their rules today make bible study conductor answer my question or make I'm brother bail am
Bring proof of the men of Sodom fictitious claim nau.
Achorladey lied about Luke 19:11 , the biblical evidences & Jewish belief of coming Messiah shut him up.
Bros, come and tell this forum why Jesus Christ called the writers of your new testament Bible "SENSELESS/foolish"
Why do you keep a copy of the book written by SENSELESS people in your house?