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FxMasterz:
There's nothing to teach you. So, please stop mentioning me, because when you are shown the truth verbatim, you'll always look the other way and abandon the thread while you continue in your own delusions.

I'll like to discuss with Truth seekers only. Not those who love their own lies and have made liars their gods.

Jesus taught me John 4:24 " God is a Spirit " being.

FxMasters: "God is triune beings."
Oga,John 4:24 is not in your heart.
Stop deceiving yourself.

Emusan:
This is the issue.

My reply was the cumulative of what I know that transpired between you and him.



If this is what you want, then I read his reply to FX about how he used two NEGATIVE words to show what he meant. Well I don't have much to say on that.



I will advise you to focus on your thread and don't stretch much on this.

False accusations is a strong word, remember you also claimed "AI default program favors TRINITY" which is also false.

Should AI demand apology for this or will you be willing to tender an apology to AI?

To me this is just misunderstanding that needs not to be stretched.

FxMasterz:
I believe they're thinking the same of you, my brother.

You don't need to address them they way you did.

The doctrine of the Trinity is a Bible truth. The evidence of Scripture is indisputable. I serve the Lord Christ, abd His power is manifest in and through me in all His fullness. And this Christ of the New Testament is the Jehovah of the Old.
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FxMasterz:
The truths of Scripture are the gems of the Kingdom. You can't get them by mere surface study. These are the deep things of God. God by His nature is a triune Being but your inner eyes needs be opened before you can see that in Scripture. If you deal by Revelation, you will see. If you deal by mere sense knowledge, you will never see. It is the Spirit of God that reveals the deep things of God.

Steep:
God the father is Supreme over Jesus because of his humanity but however all creation is subject to Jesus such authority only belongs to God.


I don't know how this relate to anything. Jesus took a the position of a servant and he still remains God's servant it is a role in took up when he volunteered himself for the work of salvation.

Steep:
Surbordination does not contradict equality in nature. For example you are subordinate to the president but yet equally human just as the president is a human.
Philippians actually tells us how Jesus became subordinate to the Father. Jesus by himself took on that role of a servant an obviously subordinate role and he was made a man.

Steep:
Since you have agreed that Jesus is same nature with the father but not the father himself, this is impressive, I am surprised at your progress, keep studying the Bible, God willing you may see obviously who Jesus truly is.

Steep:
If Jesus has same essence with the father, it means Jesus is exactly as the father is. Just as the father has the ability to do all things so does Jesus, Just as the father is without beginning and end so does Jesus so Jesus and the father are one in essence but distinct in personhood.

Steep:
As for believers being bestowed the fulness of God, it is not the same as having the fulness of his essence.

Steep:
I didn't change anything,
("So if Jesus is given all power that means he is Almighty. Because only an Almighty being can wield all power."
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Steep:
Jesus took up a servant role by himself. If a king decide to take up the role of a cleaner and live by the same rules a cleaner abide by does that mean he is not a king? Jesus took up a servants role to show us example and to fulfill the plan of salvation.

Steep:
what lie? When you said the God Almighty is not deity that is the implication.

Boomark:
I understand all these things and I know that Jesus is not the Father. There is no difference pronunciation if anyone is asked to pronounce "God and god."

My question is:

Is there anything wrong with writing this that, "Jesus is a God?"

In your own Bible ,did Jesus Christ agree with Psalms 82:6 @ John 10:34-36?
Yes.
Psalms 82:6= John 10:34-36
Jesus Christ is a god.
Nah Jesus talk so.
Case settled.

gohf:
"their authority" steep don't you used to say that they are all the same, that the son is the almighty? where you not trying to prove something that "they" are the same being because it is "the name"?

Steep:
sometimes a name in the Bible represents authority. The name in of the Father, Son and Holy Spirit means their authority.

FreeIgboho:
Meanwhile JW have recently changed on things like associating with disfellowshiped former members, wearing a beard, and women wearing pants. They have now just changed on toasting also. Next will be birthdays and holidays for sure! See below.
Someone asked if they were serving a schizophrenic😆

Ken4Christ:
God is Almighty. He can be in heaven and be on earth at the same time.

Jesus is the Son of God
Jesus is God
Jesus is the I Am
Jesus is the first and the last.
Jesus is Lord God Almighty.
Jesus is the glory of God..
Jesus is the fullness of God.
If you want to see God, look at Jesus.

Kingsempires:
Exactly, no matter how many points you bring into this thread no matter how scriptural, logical, or historically grounded they may be it still won’t make him accept that the Trinity is biblical

Your Man made invention is not holy scriptures.

gohf:
it's like you don't know steep again, even if the truth is right in front of him, he will still fall off a steep 😏

You understand Oga Steep very well.

Steep:
1).They have their own twisted interpretation to verses that shows Jesus is God.
2).Imagine saying Almighty God is not a deity? Is that not blasphemy?
3). He is willing to blaspheme Jehovah because the scripture clearly said Jesus is God.

Gabrielshow24:
Quite false and misleading. God gave his Son, the fullness of God, to us. Also, appealing to Tertullian also grants his other debilitating remarks to your JW doctrine. I for one don't hold such appeals! Some time ago you brought up some footnote commentaries to prove that "spirit of trees" were angels😂!

Steep:
"baptize them in the name (not names) of the Father and of the Son and of the holy Spirit all have one name. This is oneness of nature.
So if Jesus is given all power that means he is Almighty. Because only an Almighty being can wield all power.

it was not added. I thought you said the Christian Bible does not agree with the doctrine of the Trinity, but here you are trying to discredit a verse in the scripture that teaches Trinity after trying to deny it does no[/b]t. Make it make sense.

Steep:
So do you agree with Tertullian that the Son is not God himself.. not different as to essence?

So if the fullness of God was bestowed on Jesus, what does that make him?

Boomark:
I want to ask

Do you people believe that Jesus is a God?

Steep:
The same Tertullian told you that the Son is of same essence with the father.

Steep:
You have ran away from theotes because you found out your lie could not stand.
If Jesus has the fulness of God hood then he is God.

CreatedtwoRule:
Introduction
Have you ever heard someone say, "If Jesus died, doesn’t that mean God died?" It’s a common challenge skeptics and even some Christians wrestle with. At first glance, it seems like a contradiction—how can the eternal, immortal God experience death?

But the Bible gives us a profound answer—one that doesn’t weaken Christ’s divinity but instead reveals the stunning depth of His love. Let’s break it down.


1. Jesus Is Fully God—Death Can’t Touch His Divine Nature
The Bible leaves no room for doubt: Jesus is God in the flesh.

John 1:1 – "The Word was God."
Colossians 2:9 – "In Christ all the fullness of the Deity lives in bodily form."
Hebrews 13:8 – "Jesus Christ is the same yesterday and today and forever."

Here’s the key: God, by His very nature, cannot die. He is eternal, self-existent, and unchanging (Acts 2:24; 1 Timothy 6:16). Death is something that happens to created beings—not to the Creator.

So when we say "Jesus died," we’re not saying "God ceased to exist." We’re saying something far more amazing…


2. The Miracle of the Incarnation: God Became Man Without Stopping Being God
The early church wrestled with how Jesus could be both God and man. The Chalcedonian Creed (451 AD) clarified:

Divine Nature – Immortal, all-powerful, unable to suffer or die.
Human Nature – Fully human, capable of hunger, pain, and death.

Philippians 2:5–8 explains that Jesus "emptied Himself" (kenosis) by taking on human limitations—without giving up His divinity.

What Does "God Died" Really Mean?
When the Bible says "the Lord of glory was crucified" (1 Corinthians 2:, it’s using a principle called "communicatio idiomatum" (communication of attributes).

In His humanity, Jesus truly died.
In His divinity, He remained eternal and unchanging.

So yes, "God died"—but only in the sense that the Son experienced death in His human nature. The divine nature didn’t cease to exist.


3. The Trinity Wasn’t Broken—Why the Father and Spirit Didn’t Die
Some skeptics argue: "If Jesus is God, and He died, does that mean the whole Trinity died?"

No—and here’s why:

One Divine Essence: Father, Son, and Spirit share the same divine nature (John 10:30).
Three Distinct Persons: Only the Son became incarnate and suffered (John 1:14).

The Father didn’t die. The Spirit didn’t die. Only the Son—in His human nature—experienced death. And even then, He voluntarily laid down His life (John 10:18).


4. What Reformed Theology Says About This
The Westminster Confession (Ch. 8.2) puts it beautifully: Christ’s two natures remain "without confusion, change, division, or separation."

Herman Bavinck, a giant of Reformed theology, emphasized that God’s simplicity means He cannot be divided—His eternality, power, and love are inseparable from who He is.


Answering Frequently asked Questions

Q: "How can an immortal being die?"
A: Think of it like fire. Fire can’t freeze—it’s against its nature. In the same way, God’s divine nature can’t die. But Jesus, as the God-man, could experience death in His human nature.

Q: "Isn’t saying ‘God died’ misleading?"
A: It’s like saying "the sun rose." We know the sun doesn’t literally rise—it’s the earth’s rotation. Similarly, "God died" is a true but qualified statement—it refers to the Son’s human experience, not His divine nature.


Conclusion: The Glory of the Cross
The claim "God died" only makes sense when we see:

Jesus’ divine nature – Eternal, immortal, unchanging.
His human nature – Truly suffered and died.
The unity of His person – The Son of God experienced death as a man while remaining fully God.

This isn’t a contradiction—it’s the mystery of the Gospel. The immortal God entered death to conquer it for us.

That’s love beyond measure.

Steep:
even your source says that Jesus is made up same stuff the father is made up off.
Lol I nor fit shout.
Do you even know the meaning of deity? You are grasping a straws. In Greek Almighty God is a deity.

Steep:
no hierarchy within the trinity instead there is order operation rather than inequality of nature.
Jesus, The father and The holy Spirit are one. But have different order of operation.
For example, all things came from the Father through the Son and by the Spirit.
The Father is the head of Christ because the father ordained Jesus christ.

Ken4Christ:
Jesus of course has a God and[b] he is himself God manifest in human flesh. You can’t see God in physical form. If you want to see God in physical form, look at Jesus[/b].

Steep:
why don't you continue the verse he also said there is one LORD by whom are all things, you just pick a from a verse what you think aligns with your belief, not minding the other pars and verses goes against your belief.
You have jumped into another topic.

Ohyoudidnt:
If Paul truly believed that Jesus was God, he wouldn't refer to God as the head of Christ or restrict God to just the Father.

The head of Christ is God.

In simple terms, God holds authority over Christ.

There is one God and Father of all, who is above all, through all, and in all.

Steep:
Actually it implies Jesus is fully God.
The word interpreted as "Godhead" is theotes in Greek and it means the state of being God.
Paul was saying that Jesus is fully God.

gbemishile:
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A picture showing Adekunle Gold, Mia Khalifa, and American rapper 2 Chainz sharing the same space has gone viral on social media.

The highlight that has left many talking was Adekunle Gold's sitting posture as Nigerians shared their observation. Paris Fashion Week 2025 has gained attention on Nigerian social media over the presence of Adekunle Gold, American rapper 2 Chainz, and ex-adult film star turned jewelry designer Mia Khalifa at the event. Mia Khalifa, who declared her new identity as a jewelry designer, has expressed a desire to be recognised beyond her past.

Gabrielshow24:
what attempt is laughable? When we have Christ, who by the way is the fullness of God 🤨, within us! Make it make sense 👀.

Also, Imagine, a scenario where I own a Messi jersey, the 🐐 G.o.a.t by the way😁. Does it in anyway negate the fact that Messi is A G.O.A.T and I am wearipng the Jersey of the G.O.A.T🐐?
Abeg, Jano, make it make sense!

Boomark:
What you posted said, "IN Christ LIVES all the fullness of God..' I didn't see, Jesus IS the fullness of God.

So where did it say that Jesus is the fullness of God? Or you are an antichrist twisting the word of God?

FreeIgboho:
You keep throwing up random verses hoping no one would look them up. Here's the very first verse you threw up. Where does Jesus say anything in the verse talkless of rejecting my claim? [/b]If anything it counteracts your JW doctrine!

FreeIgboho:
Of course Jesus is NOT the Father. Jesus is God the "Son", a manifestation of the Father,

FreeIgboho:
seeing whom is seeing the Father