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MuttleyLaff:
I know you haven't the balls, you aren't that bold and confident enough, to just go ahead and answer those earlier asked three easy, innocent, harmless, simple, direct and straightforward questions, in the same format and numbered up style they were asked

GRIMMJOE:
But love don't exist in the whole world, we can also say, he that is love doesn't exist, in other words, your God doesn't exist.

Are you familiar with Joseph Campbell.

GRIMMJOE:
Look how passionate you are.

MuttleyLaff:
"Hear, Israel: Yahweh is our God; Yahweh is one"
(i.e. Hear, O Israel: Jehovah our God is one Jehovah)"
- Deuteronomy 6:4

God, the Father, the Son and the Holy Spirit are who are the three persons. Each and all are God, is what God has to do with them. The three are one. Jehovah is one.

Now please, stop temporizing or playing for time, but promptly give your responses to those three easy, innocent, harmless, simple, direct and straightforward questions.

Maximus69:
If they're not reaching out to others, how come persons like me became one of Jehovah's Witnesses?

My friend, forget about blind arguments.

Jehovah's Witnesses are reaching out to everyone, just say you don't want to live by the rules of their family yet you want them to accept you into their family circle!

MuttleyLaff:
OK, I'll ask with another set of questions.
1/ Is God limited to only three persons?
2/ Does God have the capability of expressing Himself to us in more than three persons?
3/ Does God have the power to reveal Himself to anyone/anything, other than in the three persons?

MuttleyLaff:
You do know LordReed that, they get penalised if found out they aspired and went for higher education beyond secondary school level education. Hmm?

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brocab:
Since there had been so many child molesting reports against the Watchtower-these three young Girl's are just dressing up for the picking..

MuttleyLaff:
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Christ cannot share the same body with God the father, because God is formless. God has no clear definite shape or size
Them two haven't a Scooby Doo

dapotanye:
That's true, but God is not the one collecting the money

NuclearReactor:
The word Trinity doesn't need to exist in the NT, the whole concept of trinity is that God manifests himself in 3 personalities, each with distinct roles but same qualities.
Throughout the NT the 3 personalities are clearly stated...

But there was never any place where it was said that there are 3 distinct personalities...
Hope I made sense

Maximus69:
It's not easy to be stepping on toes!

So it's safer sitting on the fence, in that way you'll not offend this side or that side!

MuttleyLaff:
... my position, is God is not a "not-known-number" of person. God, as a matter of fact then, is, x-person and so God, in effect is, ∞-persons, as in, meaning, God is infinite or infinity.

God is someone without any bound, without limit, without an end. God is the first and the last, God oxymoronically has no beginning and no end. God is someone bigger and larger than any specified number, even three or trinity. This means, dont put God in a box. It explains why God in His infinite wisdom didnt allow the the word trinity to be printed black and white kokoro out in the Bible, lol

Now going to what you referenced and about the point made by Biblespeaks when he laid bare Matthew 24:36. Well, you've likely, often heard it said, if you want something done right, you have to do it yourself. Something to be done right is exactly what it's all about and so what God did. This is a matter of the classsic diy aka Do-It-Yourself.

God, can send Himself on an errand, and did send Himself to earth, in the form of Jesus Christ because God simultaneously can be in more than one place at a time (i.e. God can be in Heaven and on earth, at the same time) Note that, Jesus didnt correct people that addressed Him as God, for example, where and when said: "My Lord, My God" to Him

Christ cannot share the same body with God the father, because God is formless. God has no clear definite shape or size. Jesus Christ is the product of God projecting Himself as a human being in the person of Jesus Christ on earth

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FlourishE30:
God bless you my dear,God the Father, the Son and Holy Ghost are one.

LordReed:
It does not but in the new testament it recommends monogamy for those who wish to be Church officials like deacons and bishops.

GraGra247:
By your deduction churches shouldn't receive offerings or tithes after their regular services.

Jesus was a Godman when he walked the earth. Individual Christians are just mortals that don't have the supernatural Godman powers to get things done.

KNOWMORE56:
I have told you before let's take it step by step so that you won't complain my post is too long.

Below are some points I have raised more than a week and you have not responded to any.

1. If someone wants to know you Jehovah,
what are the features to consider?

2. What Thomas, Stephen and Angels did/doing is what I'm doing.

Are they idol worshippers?

Or is Jesus an idol?

Let me stop here for now.

If you can stop evading questions, I promise to make known my own understanding of the points you are raising.

So, can we start?

J111333:
It seemed good to the Holy Spirit(A) and to us not to burden you with anything beyond the following requirements: 29 You are to abstain from food sacrificed to idols, from blood, from the meat of strangled animals and from sexual immorality.(B) You will do well to avoid these things




Please educate me how the bolded relate to blood transfusion.

DrLiveLogic:
Yeah. Of course Jesus is never less. He as the Word was equal with Father before He became a man. Before creation, Father was not greater than Word, both were equal.
But when He became flesh to serve the Father, He said my "Father is greater than I" that's the disparity I'm talking of.
So we're saying essentially the same thing about his equality with God.

KNOWMORE56:
I think he knows what you are saying, but because of some ' benefits' he gets from the organization,

he will never be honest.

They have sworn an oath with the organization,

The fear of the consequences of the oath is the chain that bind him.

THE GB SMARTLY SET THEM AGAINST ALMIGHTY JESUS, THE ONLY TRUE GOD WHO COULD HAVE SET THEM FREE!

the guy has made up his mind to damn the consequences of all the lies the organization has offered.

Bros, please quantirinu to provide PROOF that you do not know Jesus Christ , neither do you know his only true God and Father.

solite3:
God the father called Jesus God and said Jesus throne will last forever.

Hebrews 1:8 But unto the Son he saith, Thy throne, O God, is for ever and ever: a sceptre of righteousness is the sceptre of thy kingdom.

solite3:
The blood of Jesus is called God's own blood.

Acts 20:28 Take heed therefore unto yourselves, and to all the flock, over the which the Holy Ghost hath made you overseers, to feed the church of God, which he hath purchased with his own blood.

Jesus is Almighty God

brocab:
Dickhead-I said: the Father the Son and the Spirit are One-so if Jehovah is coming back-then Jehovah is Jesus coming back, read it, it's even written in your bible .
NWT {Revelation 22:20} Come Lord Jesus..

Maximus69:
Greatest blunder ever on Nairaland!

The person we talking about is the God of Abraham the God of Isaac and the God of Jacob (Israel), these are the Jewish patriarchs that this God often use their names to impress on the minds of interested persons who wants to approach him for worship.

So between the Jews and the English, who knows the correct pronunciation of the name of this particular God?

Sorry my friend, Yahweh is God's name not Lord, it's the Trinitarians who wanted to equate him with Jesus that mistranslated all those verses and replaced the divine name with a title Lord!

Where these crooked Trinitarians got confused is Psalms 110:1 when David said "JEHOVAH said to my Lord"
There Trinitarians translated the verse dubiously as "The Lord said to my lord"

If Lord is God's personal name then how come two lords appeared there?

Why then did Sarah refer to Abraham as Lord?

KNOWMORE56:
'YOUR POST TOO LONG' is it an excuse to evade my questions?

Give me the characteristics/features/attributes/properties of the ONLY TRUE Jehovah GOD you are talking about. Simple!

Now to your agitations;

1. KNOWMORE is a human being, his son is a human being.

His son being a human can take/answer the name KNOWMORE without contradiction!

There's nothing EXCLUSIVELY in name answering. Only occultic organization teaches that.

2. The Lamb is at the CENTER of the throne. This Throne here is the most high throne.

The Cherubim and Seraphim and the Elders surrounded It,

the 7 spirit of God is also there upon Him(Jesus).

What else are you looking for to make you understand that this is the true God?

3. I have posted severally that Jesus is the true God, He only chooses any OFFICES He wants at ANYTIME, and ANYWHERE.

Bros, you are NOT even honest sef, your Son MUST ADD a name to KNOWMORE56 that Shows he is in fact DIFFERENT from you, KNOWMORE56.
You are not your Son. Your son is not You. But you dey claim Jesus is his Father , Jehovah

If your 1B is correct, John 17:26, whose name did Jesus make known ?
What is his Father's name ?

solite3:
The blood of Jesus is called God's own blood.

Acts 20:28 Take heed therefore unto yourselves, and to all the flock, over the which the Holy Ghost hath made you overseers, to feed the church of God, which he hath purchased with his own blood.

Jesus is Almighty God

KNOWMORE56:
You sef, I know no which one you dey.

I said give me the features of the ONLY TRUE GOD that you know from the Bible.

Till now I have not received any.

You said if person fall before his village elders, it doesn't mean he's worshipping the village elders, right?

QUESTIONS:

Why then do you call angels and contemporary believers who are falling before Jesus as idol worshippers?

2. Are you saying nobody (trinitarian) is worshipping Jesus?

They're paying homage?

In a clear terms, trinitarians are paying homage to Jesus not that they are worshipping Jesus.

Is that what you are saying?

3. Who/what is the idol that the worshipers
are worshipping?

Below is what I learned from Matthew 4:10 and John 12:26:

JESUS SAID HIMSELF IS THE TRUE GOD:

*. Matthew 4:10 says
"KJV:Then saith Jesus unto him, Get thee hence, Satan: for it is written, Thou shalt worship the Lord thy God, AND HIM ONLY SHALT THOU SERVE.

*. John 12:26 "KJV:If any MAN SERVE ME, let him follow me; and where I am, there shall also my servant be: if any MAN SERVE ME, him will my Father honour.


NOTE, He said ONLY the Lord your God you will serve,

He then said IF any man SERVE Him the Father will honour such a person.

He didn't say 'God will honour him' in this verse but 'Father will honour him'.

Because He had assumed His office as God in that verse.

He said ONLY God you have to serve, and said afterward SERVE ME.

In other words, He is saying I AM THE LORD THY GOD only whom you shall serve.

I have shown you how the people were only saying 'it is the voice of God'

and the man to whom they said it was killed by angel.

What about the king of Babylon?

He was at a point referred to as king of Kings.

He spent some years in the bush for giving himself the glory due God.

God said and meant it that He won't give His glory to another.

But you and your organization want to force us to believe that Jesus is another.

Acts 12:22 "KJV:And the people gave a shout, saying, It IS THE VOICE OF A GOD, and not of a man.
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KJV:And immediately the ANGEL OF THE LORD SMOTE HIM, BECAUSE HE GAVE NOT GOD THE GLORY: and he was eaten of worms, and gave up the ghost.


Janosky, the word translated a god in acts 12:22 is the same with the one in John 1:1.

Whether human beings translated it 'a god' or 'God' i.e separating it with small letter g and big letter G.

Heaven knows it means the true God!

GOD CAN NEVER GIVE HIS GLORY TO ANOTHER!

JESUS IS NOT ANOTHER!!

*. ISAIAH 47:11 "
KJV:For mine own sake, even for mine own sake, will I do it: for how should my name be polluted? and I WILL NOT GIVE MY GLORY UNTO ANOTHER.

*. Acts 12: 23 "
KJV:And immediately THE ANGEL OF THE LORD SMOTE HIM, BECAUSE HE GAVE NOT GOD THE GLORY: and he was eaten of worms, and gave up the ghost.

That which angels are doing, Thomas did, Stephen did, Paul and Peter did; that is what I'm doing.


AM I WORSHIPPING JESUS OR I'M PAYING HOMAGE TO JESUS?

brocab:
{John 1:1} In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.
If you had read what was written in the first place I wouldn't have to repeat-which way I had written the above-Allow me to show you scriptures that you find to difficult to understand about the trinity..
{1. Matthew 3:16} “After being baptized, Jesus came up immediately from the water; and behold, the heavens were opened, and he saw the Spirit of God descending as a dove and lighting on Him.”
{2. Matthew 12:28} “But if I [Jesus] cast out demons by the Spirit of God, then the kingdom of God has come upon you.”
{3. Matthew 28:19} “Go therefore and make disciples of all the nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and the Son and the Holy Spirit . . .”
{4. Luke 3:22} “And the Holy Spirit descended upon Him [Jesus] in bodily form like a dove, and a voice came out of heaven, “You are My [the Father’s] beloved Son, in You I am well-pleased.”
[5. John 14:26] “But the Helper, the Holy Spirit, whom the Father will send in My [Jesus’] name, He will teach you all things, and bring to your remembrance all that I said to you.”
[6. John 15:26] “When the Helper comes, whom I [Jesus] will send to you from the Father, that is the Spirit of truth who proceeds from the Father, He will testify about Me . . .”
{7. Acts 1:4} “Gathering them together, He [Jesus] commanded them not to leave Jerusalem, but to wait for what the Father had promised, “Which,” He said, “you heard of from Me . . .”
{8. Acts 2:33}
“Therefore having been exalted to the right hand of God, and having received from the Father the promise of the Holy Spirit, He [Jesus] has poured forth this which you both see and hear.”
{9. Acts 10:38} “You know of Jesus of Nazareth, how God anointed Him with the Holy Spirit and with power, and how He went about doing good and healing all who were oppressed by the devil, for God was with Him.”
{10. Romans 1:4} “Who was declared the Son of God with power by the resurrection from the dead, according to the Spirit of holiness, Jesus Christ our Lord . . .”
{11. Romans 8:9} “However, you are not in the flesh but in the Spirit, if indeed the Spirit of God dwells in you. But if anyone does not have the Spirit of Christ, he does not belong to Him.”
{12. 1 Corinthians 6:11} "Such were some of you; but you were washed, but you were sanctified, but you were justified in the name of the Lord Jesus Christ and in the Spirit of our God.
{13. 2 Corinthians 13:14} "The grace of the Lord Jesus Christ, and the love of God, and the fellowship of the Holy Spirit, be with you all.
{14. Galatians 4:6} "Because you are sons, God has sent forth the Spirit of His Son into our hearts, crying, “Abba! Father!”
{15. Ephesians 1:17} "That the God of our Lord Jesus Christ, the Father of glory, may give to you a spirit of wisdom and of revelation in the knowledge of Him. "{16. Ephesians 2:18}
For through Him we both have our access in one Spirit to the Father.
{17. Ephesians 2:22} "In whom [ Jesus] you also are being built together into a dwelling of God in the Spirit.
{18. Titus 3:6} "Whom [the Holy Spirit] He poured out upon us richly through Jesus Christ our Savior.
{19. Hebrews 9:14} "How much more will the blood of Christ, who through the eternal Spirit offered Himself without blemish to God, cleanse your conscience from dead works to serve the living God?
{20. 1 Peter 1:2} "According to the foreknowledge of God the Father, by the sanctifying work of the Spirit, to obey Jesus Christ and be sprinkled with His blood: may grace and peace be yours in the fullest measure.
So as we can see the trinity theory still stands among the believers-{[color=#990000] I said the believers} it's quite simple to understand-the Father the Son and the Holy Spirit are One. [/color]
{John 1:14} "The Word became flesh and made his dwelling among us. {Jesus}
So obviously Jesus, lived among us. It's Jesus who is coming in the last days-God with Him in Spirit-there's no separation between the Father the Son and the Spirit.. "As I said: I myself don't see a problem with the above-it's pretty simple to understand-It's child's play...

14. Galatians 4:6} "Because you are sons, God has sent forth the Spirit of His Son into our hearts, crying, “Abba! Father!”
{15. Ephesians 1:17} "That the God of our Lord Jesus Christ, the Father of glory, may give to you a spirit of wisdom and of revelation in the knowledge of Him"

* Can your brain understand that Galatians 4:6 refers to God as "Father"/ "His" ?
Bros, "His " Na triune?
"Father" Na triune?

Ephesians 1:17, refers to God as "Father"/ "Him" .
Bros, I ask you again, is "Father" triune persons?
Is "Him", triune persons or triune spirits?

Why you no quote Matthew 3:17?

KNOWMORE56:
I agree that THEY ARE NOT CHRISTIANS.

Jesus, God the Son, said that if I, you or anyone SERVE Him the Father will honour (accept, Revere, salute) such a person.

But JWs say whoever worships/serves/prays to Jesus is an idol worshipper.

Who shall we believe?

ANGELS ARE WORSHIPPING JESUS :

*. Revelation 5:8 "KJV:And when he had taken the book, the four beasts and four and twenty elders FELL DOWN BEFORE THE LAMB, having every one of them harps, and golden vials full of odours, which are the prayers of saints.


THOMAS WORSHIPPED JESUS:
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Why you Sabi LIE?
But JWs obey Matthew 4:10, Deuteronomy 6:13 and Matthew 6:9 more than you.

You no dey fall down before your village Elders?
Are you WORSHIPPING them?

@ Matthew 4:10 Jesus says whoever worships Jesus are IDOL WORSHIPPERS
The words of Jesus Christ @Revelations 3:12 and John 20:17 no dey your Bible again.
. no wahala

solite3:
you have finally hit the bottom by throwing tantrums, I won't stop hitting you and your likes with truth.
Jehovah false witness.