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Islam › Re: Islam And My Profession - I Need Help by Jarus(m): 9:17am On Jun 23, 2009
First and foremost, I do not think this should be a homepage topic. Not being a general topic, homepage opens it to derailment.

I will personally go with the hadith quoted by Virgo if I'm in that situation. I will leave the doubtful, moreso as the poster doesn't appear to be in 'poverty' to make the job fall into 'extreme necessity'. Just my opinion.

However, if you are convinced with what you read elsewhere that it is permissible, you may go ahead.

Wallahu a'lam.
Politics › Re: Ministerial Nominee fails simple questions. by Jarus(m): 6:07pm On Jun 22, 2009
People no fit speak english but dem wan go havard (your governors)
ROTFLMAO grin grin grin
Politics › Re: Ministerial Nominee fails simple questions. by Jarus(m): 6:06pm On Jun 22, 2009
@Brein,
It happened. It was carried by all papers then.
Investment › Re: Top 10 Best Nig. Investment Banks In This Meltdown Period? by Jarus(m): 5:35pm On Jun 22, 2009
Bummie Aji:
@ Jurus: thanks a bunch, i am so grateful
You're welcome. We hope you will also come here one day and give prospective jobs seekers useful tips like this.

All the best.
Islam › Re: Islam And My Profession - I Need Help by Jarus(m): 5:28pm On Jun 22, 2009
The aspect he seems confused about is the random thing that relates closely to gambling, knowing full well taht Islam strongly forbids participating in or aiding gambling. In other words, he's afraid of being the 'inventor' of a 'gambling tool'.

The question now: Is this 'random querying' a gamble.

I also can't answer this question but if you say you read elsewhere that it's halal(in order) and you are convinced, why not go ahead.

Allahu alam.
Politics › Re: Lamido Sanusi: If Audit Reveals Some Bank Executive Have Been Cooking Their Book by Jarus(m): 4:19pm On Jun 22, 2009
@Mikeansy,
mikeansy:
But when a CBN Governor goes on National Newspaper to suggest that some Banks may be at risk even before auditing, that creates panic and that is irresponsible because it is capable of triggering flight of investment from the country.
He should audit these Banks, help those who might have issues take corrective measures quietly.
Your point is very valid.
Politics › Re: Lamido Sanusi: If Audit Reveals Some Bank Executive Have Been Cooking Their Book by Jarus(m): 2:39pm On Jun 22, 2009
mikeansy:
Folks the economy reacts to Market behaviour

If he needs to scrutinize banks, its better for all our sake that he stringently carries out the process behind the scenes and implement corrective measures where necessary.

Their is no benefit whats soever having your CBN Governor making comments that raises suspicion in the Nigerian Banking system because that is capable of creating panic, investors taking their money away at an exponential rate and the Banks and by extension the economy will suffer more than would have been the case.

He is no longer running for CBN Governor, he is now the CBN Governor.

Sanusi must understand the implication of his statements
Wow, when we read the story in newspaper this morning, the first thing my boss said was: ''. . .so we now have to look properly and select the bank to put our money. . . '' meaning he was already thinking about withdrawing his money from or at least not putting future money in perceived-to-be-unhealthy banks.

But I think Soludo, your boy, was also guilty of this - public pronouncement of policy statements even before conclusion on whether it will be implemented.

And I personally don't see anything wrong in it.
Investment › Re: Top 10 Best Nig. Investment Banks In This Meltdown Period? by Jarus(m): 2:18pm On Jun 22, 2009
@ Bummie, find below TIPS on Vetiva interview.

Just the normal interview. Most times it's panel interview, with three or four unit heads interviewing you, but in rare cases, it's a one-on-one interview.
As a fresher, you are not expected to know much, but I will advise you demonstrate basic knowledge of capital market/investment banking. Let this reflect in your interactions, but don't say what you don't know nor go deep because they are experts in the field and if you try to prove too-know(maybe after reading some theory about IB), be ready to meet people that are genius in the business and you will be cut to size.

So you need not know more than:
-What is capital market?
-Differences between IPO, rights issue, offer for subscription etc
-Recent capital market events

And if you are lucky, the direction of the interview may not go this way.

Their interview questions are usually the common interview questions, so for sure, expect these questions:

1, Tell me about yourself? or Who are you? or Let's meet you? etc
HINT: Master your CV before you go. Just summarize the PERSONAL INFORMATION section of your CV. I am XXXXXX, I was born on XXXXX I had my secondary education in Iyanfoworogi High school, where I finished in 1900 as . . . (if you have any achievement in that school, say best student), I later proceeded to University of XYZ where I read Accounting and graduated in XXXX as . . . .(if you have any achievement, state). I qualified as a chartered Accountant in XXXX or I am currently a student member of ICAN/CIS or whatever bla bla bla. Keep it brief so that you will not have to be stopped, but ensure you say relevant things.

2, What do you know about us?
Do a research on the company. Visit their website. Print important pages. Try to get yourself familiarized with their operations - Stockbroking, Wealth management, Corporate finance. You will surely be asked this. They will surely know you went to their website, so don't deny it, it's normal.

3, Why do you want to work with us?
It depends on your goal, but personally, I approach this question thus: I have always wanted to become an investment banker and I believe Vetiva offers a great platform for me to achieve this. Moreover, from I'm really impressed with the phenomenal growth of this company, and I want to contribute my best and be part of the success story. This was a company that came into existence less than seven years ago(It was started 2002 or 2004, can't remember exact) and today it's a reference point in investment banking in Nigeria, up there with those taht had been around decades ago. Appear passionate and demonstrate you know what you are saying.
This response may give rise to another question: What or how do you know about investment banking? I personally answer this question thus: My brother has been an investment banker for some time, and through reading his company's annual reports since when i was in secondary school, I got to know one or two things about the profession, plus what I read in newspapers. But this answer may not be suitable for you, but you may say something like: 'A top investment banker came to deliver a lecture when I was in University about investment banking and i became interested in the career. That actually ignited my interest, from then I have been following the investment banking system in Nigeria through reading newspaper reports etc. . . . just say something relevant.

What challenges have you faced in your life?
Have an example to give beforehand, so that you wont be caught napping. Different people, different challenges, but I remember telling my interviewers that 'the most challenging part of my life was when I was in my final year in the varsity. I was President of a number of associations and at the same time my GP was close to dropping from my target grade and it was my final semester. I wanted to deliver in my responsibities and commitments to these associations and at the same time, I did not want it to jeopardize my academics. I had to plan my time to juggle between the two goals, it wasn't easy but thank God(smiling) at the end of the day, I led my team to emerge regional champions in SIFE competition and at the same time had my dream grade! It was a very difficult period. Come see how my interviewers dey nod their head . . . . not knowing the story get some patchpatch grin The message I passed across was :I can be multitasking! The story was actually doctored. Although I was actually President of a number of associations and truly led OAU SIFE to emerge regional champions, no GP was on borderline. After all, I didn't know and don't think I had faced presentable challenges as at that time. But now I don get enough o. grin Given accounting job with no prior knowledge of accounting is number 1 now! But that will be for future interviews.

What is your stock-in-trade?
I wasn't asked this question, but a colleague that resumed together with me said she was asked this question. Guess what: She told me that she told them bluntly that she didn't know the meaning of stock-in-trade, and they explained to her.Yet this lady came first in interview( we saw the results when we later got in). I think her being honest paid here. But interviews are somehow subjective, what our interviewers saw as 'honesty' could be seen by another set of interviewers as 'unpardonable ignorance' and so disqualified for the job. If you are asked this question, you are expected to tell them your skills and competence. It can also come in the form of: What can you bring to the table? What do you have to offer? Why should I give you this job?



The final question is: Do you have any question for us?
I will advise you make up your mind on what question you want to ask before going for the interview. Try to craft your question, make it reasonable and sensible.
Any of these is OK.
- This organization has risen meteorically in few years of operation and I'm really impressed. Could you educate me on what you actually did to achieve this feat?(appear serious and passionate). This was my question. Come see how they were smiling as I dey praise them . . dem no no say na job I det find grin

Other good questions:
-The recent meltdown left a serious damage in global economy and we saw heavyweights like Lehman brothers, AIG etc (don't say this, if you don't anything about their collapse pls) freely falling. The Nigerian economy was not spared either. Sirs, how did your company weather the storm or were you insulated?

-As a young fresh university graduate hoping to establish a career in investment banking, what advice do you have for me?

-I can see that this company is not a subsidiary of any bank, like any of its major market competitors, yet it remains on top of this business, despite the advantage it's competitors have to leverage on their parent companies. This is very impressive. How are you able to achieve this?

Try to wear a serious and passionate face while asking your question, and you may nod your head at regular intervals while you are being answered, adding some smile, so as to show you are getting them.

BOTTOMLINE:
Again, don't prove you know too much. Don't argue with them. They don't expect you to know very much as a fresher, but be confident. All the best
Sports › Re: Nigeria(0) Vs Tunisia(0) on Saturday June 20th by Jarus(m): 12:06pm On Jun 22, 2009
my fears are not only on qualification but the shame of not winning a match in sa in case we qualify.
Sincerely, my own fear is opposite. Against European and American opposition, I know SE do well. Even in this hard time, they did well against Ireland and France.
I expect a decent world appearance,even if they don't get beyond the group stage, they are not going to be the whipping boys. Our 2002 squad, despite coming last in the group, were not that bad. Argentina, tipped as favourite pre-tournament, managed to get away with one-goal victory, two moments of folly from the defenders spoilt their otherwise impressive performance against Sweden, while the English NT, fresh from beating the Argies, still couldn't beat our already demoralized team.

So my own fear is qualifying, not what will happen in SA.
Investment › Re: Top 10 Best Nig. Investment Banks In This Meltdown Period? by Jarus(m): 11:37am On Jun 22, 2009
Bummie Aji:
Finished from Ife too, wrote vetica capital management interview and would be going for the test tomorrow, can u please enlighten me on the likely questions that i can be faced with.
thanks
Interview before test? When did they start that? Test normally comes before interview now?
In any case see my PM.
Investment › Re: Top 10 Best Nig. Investment Banks In This Meltdown Period? by Jarus(m): 9:24am On Jun 22, 2009
@Bummie,
See my PM.
Investment › Re: Top 10 Best Nig. Investment Banks In This Meltdown Period? by Jarus(m): 9:06am On Jun 22, 2009
I dnt know when u were at Ife, whether u had the oppurtunity to lead people,at political/faculty/deptal levels.Pple will always throw careless comments around.My 5yrs at U.I were spent being a president of XYZ association or the other,develop a thick skin and like a friend of mine that finished from Ife will say
Much as this is not a prerequisite for getting jobs, it could be of great help in interview process that greatly emphasizes PAST TEAMWORK EXPERIENCE like Mobil's and Shell's.
I was also quite active in all those stuffs while in school, from departmental to religious to NGO level, but I dared not move near campus politics(Ife campus politics was not for the feeble minded like me grin )

But the one I prefer to quote is my being pioneer member and later President/Team leader of Students in Free Enterprise(SIFE), OAU chapter.
Investment › Re: Top 10 Best Nig. Investment Banks In This Meltdown Period? by Jarus(m): 8:33am On Jun 22, 2009
server34:
Ur welcome. I'd reply to ur PM when am less busy. . . . say tomorrow.
No problems, server. I will delete my earlier comment after our discussion 'off-camera'.

Its way more than that. Unless the package is different for entry level engineers.
Thanks. I don't know whether it's the same for Engineers & Finance recruits. But I know it's not less than 6M for finance recruit and could be as high as 8M.
Also note my earlier caveat that any figure quoted here may not be accurate, as people prefer to give range, rather than being exact, when it comes to disclosing earnings.

[quote author=T-Cann link=topic=280487.msg4066525#msg4066525 date=1245620006]@Genius Jarus
U have not for a day disappointed the confidence i reppose in you and am sure am saying the minds of several pple.
Good reply there.
Jarus,i'd love to tell u something here-never be distracted by comments.Apply OBJ's model(never reply critics).I dnt know when u were at Ife, whether u had the oppurtunity to lead people,at political/faculty/deptal levels.Pple will always throw careless comments around.My 5yrs at U.I were spent being a president of XYZ association or the other,develop a thick skin and like a friend of mine that finished from Ife will say-'i wont grant them the luxury of a reply or joining issues'
-Books apart,you re a a smart and well versed person,a mspecial rear breed on NL. pls keep up the good works here.
-Are u qualified,i mean ICAN.
-I need to give u some hints,send ur IM addy to me or berra still,join me to ur yahoo IM

peace.[/quote]Thanks for your complementary remarks. Being an Econs grad, you know I will have to pass thru 5 stages in ICAN, and I never had initial plan to be an Accountant, so I started quite late, but I'm now 2 steps away from qualifying, and already with a number of prizes at previous stages. In any case, I don't have any plans to establish a long-term career as an Accountant. But the certificate and the practical experience I'm gaining now is surely going to be an added value when I return to my primary field of interest.
And one last thing, do me the favour of dropping that prefix/title you gave me. I'm far from being a genuis, a struggler at best. grin
Investment › Re: Top 10 Best Nig. Investment Banks In This Meltdown Period? by Jarus(m): 4:23pm On Jun 21, 2009
worldz:
@Jarus

I will really appreciate it if you will continue with the infos u were giving before about the recruitment process in the oil and gas industry as u promised

Under 'achievement', you will be asked to give an achievement you have made in your life(they don't take academic achievement, so they won't take First Class as an achievement from you. I will give practical question-answer scenario later in this thread when I'm less busy).

COMING SOON: MOBIL AND OANDO. I will invite my friend in Chevron global headquarters in US, loma, also a Nairalander, to come and give us hints about Chevron, but the challenge is that he is in their IT dept and may know little about recruitment in their Finance. But let's see what he can offer here.

There are lots of people out there like me u are really helping. cheers!
DISCLAIMER: Anything mentioned here about a company does not represent the official position of the company, just as any organization or figure quoted here, and in my other posts, should not be taken as accurate. The goal here is to contribute our little quota to solving unemployment problem in Nigeria, and demystify the widespread pessimistic mentality and demonization of the job market in Nigeria. Lack of information about the job market, as opposed to lack of requisite skills, is the bane of many job seekers in Nigeria.


MOBIL:
Mobil is one of the highest paying companies in Nigeria.
RECRUITMENT PROCESS: They also don't recruit anytime, but usually once in a year. Bear in mind that we are talkng about Finance jobs here. They place advert in papers and shortlist a lot of people(unlike Shell) running into thousands but at the end of the process may not take more than 100. They organize tests in batches, taking 3-4 days at times. Their test is usually divided into three parts:Verbal reasoning, quantitative reasoning and abstract reasoning.
Under verbal reasoning, you will be given a number of short passages to read within limited time and questions will follow each passage. The question takes the form of a statement which you will be asked to say whether it's TRUE, FALSE or CANNOT SAY. The idea is to test your understanding of the passage.
Under quantitative, you will be given a chunk of graphs and tables with headings, and you will be asked to answer questions based on your interpretation of the graphs and tables.
Under abstract, you will be given figures and shapes and asked to complete blank spaces, where you will need to identify the realtionship between the figures and shapes.
You have to be super fast. Few people usually scale through test stage in Mobil.
The common Nigerian GMAT could be useful here. There is one special section in that GMAT that exactly covers these areas.

If you are lucky to scale through the test stage, then interview will follow. Their interview is also like Shell's, though not structured like Shell's.
It's not the regular interview of 'tell me about yourself', 'why do you want to work with us?' ,' where do you want to see yourself in the next three years?' etc.
It requires conscious preparation, because if you don't have ready made answers for most of the questions, you may be caught napping and unless you are a very fast thinker, you will find yourself embarrassingly uttering incoherent answers, like one of my friends that fluffed the interview used to make jest of herself.
The interview is quite thorough and you will be asked to describe a scenario in the past where you had to work as a team, where you were faced with the challenge of having to compromise, where you disagree with your team members, other challenges you have faced in your life. And the challenge here is not ' . . . . ehn, when my grandmother died. . so I was living alone. . .so I didn't have any food to eat'. They require real life problem-solving challenge, working with other people, resource constraint, challenge of having to work with a difficult team leader/member etc. It will be quite theatrical and you will be drilled. If you have any, probably when you were in school and you were president or exco or member of a club/association etc, it is advisable you refresh your experience so as to be confident, coherent and take charge of the interview.

PACKAGE:[/b]Their pay package is in the region of 6M per annum for entry level. Free lunch, good working environment etc.

[b]CONTRACT JOB
Mobil takes a lot of people on contract, but the above described process is for regular, permanent offer. For contract offer, it's not as strict and thorough as decribed above and pay far less, of course. The chance of having a contract offer converted to permanent one tends towards zero, but your contract may be renewed again and again.




OANDO:
Oando is great company by all standards, ably run by the wonder kid of corporate Nigeria, Wale Tinubu. An indigenous company giving almost century-old multinationals a run for their money, and foraging into areas nobody imagined a home-grown O&G player could dare. A company with a great future, if you ask me.

RECRUITMENT PROCESS: Entry level in Oando used to be handled by the company's HR dept, but it has now been outsourced to an external consulting firm, Brass consulting, effective last year. So all the entry level recruitment is now being handled by Brass. They have a programme called Graduate Trainee Programme(GTP) which was just started. Here, Brass, on behalf of it's client,through advert in papers, invites applications from sutably qualified candidates. But beyond that I don't have any idea about the other stages, but of course, the shortlisted candidates will write test, and face series of interviews etc. At the end of the exercise, the successful candidates will join the company. They will be subject to one year on-the-job training and will move across various entities and departments and they will be assessed after one year.

PACKAGE: Competitive. Good working environment. lipsrsealed
Investment › Re: Top 10 Best Nig. Investment Banks In This Meltdown Period? by Jarus(m): 3:29pm On Jun 21, 2009
[quote author=T-Cann link=topic=280487.msg4045695#msg4045695 date=1245269873]@Jarus
What is the test format like for an entry level aptitude test for an IB/Issuing house? is it the general GMAT or some customized Financial management/accounting tests.Pls reply soonest cos somethg is in the pipeline for yours sincerely.
Also,what will be ur comment on the average entry level package industry wide-either now or when u were still in the show,whichever info u av.[/quote]Different IBs have different test formats, just as different banks also have different formats. I don't know much about their tests.

For Vetiva, it's 55 questions plus an essay, the title of which I will not say here, but I'll advise you don't waste much time on the essay. The time is 90 minutes and it's a mixture of English and Maths, mostly word problems. There is 'sentence correction' aspect, and of course 'nearest in meaning' and 'opposite in meaning' sections. The passmark is 60%. They are more related to foreign GMAT than this locally made GMAT book most job seekers carry around.

For IBTC, if they've not changed it, it's 60 questions, 90 minutes and that was the cheapest test I have ever done. The passmark is 50% and I wonder why people fail this test. I won't state my score here to avoid being called pompous again here but it was quite high. It's a mixture of English and maths, but most of the Maths are business maths - simple, compound interests etc. English also contains 'nearest in meaning', 'opposite in meaning', etc. No shapes and figures. No graphical interpretations.

I don't know anything on the test formats for other IBs.

Package? First, it differs markedly across different organizations. Second, I learnt from a friend in one of them yesterday, that they implemented pay cut when the crisis hit them. So I may not be able to help. But for those that are wholely owned subsidiary of banks, their pay is usually the same as what entry level earns in their parent bank. For those that are strictly IBs, it depends on the size and the success: The big ones(most mentioned earlier in this thread) pay between 160-200K per month as take-home, while the small, not too successful ones pay between 80-120K net per month. It differs markedly.
Investment › Re: Top 10 Best Nig. Investment Banks In This Meltdown Period? by Jarus(m): 3:03pm On Jun 21, 2009
server34:
Plus I think u shouldn't have moved to the Oil sector from your previous job. because I can see you are obviously very good with the economics and investment sturvs, sadly however the engineers/geoscientists run the show within the oil (producing) companies. The money is good yeah, but please always do ur investment/economics thingz on d side. . . . don't let dat slide. . .
Yeap, I have my academic degree in Economics and that is my primary field and that is where I think I can do best, but you know, boys need enough dough at this early stage, so boys will not hesitate to join any company that offers the highest reward with minimal stress, and that is what oil coys are. I have become an accountant overnight(forced to write ICAN) and put aside my Economics certificate/knowledge aside, but by the grace of god, I still have great and conscious plan to go back to my primary field, but not investment banking really. CBN is where I'm actually eyeing but I'm too young to join a government establishment now. Boys need money, so still playing around within oil & gas sector

Ajanlekoko's theory says it almost all: https://www.nairaland.com/nigeria?topic=261802.msg3996382#msg3996382

I'm still on general track, but consciously planning to go back to personal track.
Investment › Re: Top 10 Best Nig. Investment Banks In This Meltdown Period? by Jarus(m): 2:40pm On Jun 21, 2009
server34:
Jarus, I think ur doing a good job with ur posts, they are very educating and inspiring. But I also think some of ur comments are unnecessary and pompous. Try 2 keep it on d low most times ok?. . . my2centimes.
If the above is well-intentioned, then I must say a big thank you. But remember you said same thing when we crossed path in one thread in education section and I bluntly replied you right there that 'if advising the junior ones is what you call self-trumpet blowing, then I want to blow it louder' and we later came to an understanding after exchanging few posts. So I'm still struggling to believe this is not undue fault-finding(Stalking is too hard a word here, much as I was tempted to use it).

I don't think I can impress anybody here and I don't want to. That's just the natural way I express myself. Who do I even want to impress when we have far bigger boys here in Ajanlekoko(a mgr), TKB, debosky, Crackles(playful as he is), oyb(we work in same coy and he's my senior) and others? So who am I here? Advising and motivating sometimes may require words that may appear proud, even though the intention is far from that.

In any case, one thing about me is that I care about what people say about me, so I'll PM you(I have the right as a Mod) and ask for my posts that smacked of pompousness so that I can modify them.

Thanks
Sports › Re: Nigeria(0) Vs Tunisia(0) on Saturday June 20th by Jarus(m): 1:33pm On Jun 21, 2009
Far from an excellent game really, but not bad a result ,to me. This team is still far from the Eagles of our dream, or at least from 92-96 class that brought respect to Nigeria in world football, the glory of which we are still enjoying today.

At the same time we must not forget the fact that Tunisia are no push-overs in African football, appearing in the last three editions of WC. So it will not be an easy ride for SE. But with a draw in Tunis, the group is still open and there is still hope. We only hope SE will not play draw with CE again in Abuja.

My rating of the players:

VERY GOOD
Adeleye 9 MOTM IMO
Enyeama 8

GOOD
Olubayo 7
Yobo 7

Others were not impressive and quite disappointing. The Uche brothers(IK 5, Kalu 4) [/b]had an off-day. Ik could be excused as there were no passes from the midfield. Kalu was almost anonymous throughout. [b]Mikel(5) continued with his unimpressive form in Eagles' jersey. Inaccurate passes, holding too much to ball, poor ball distribution, and poor end result. Olofinjana(4) continued to justify the widespread call for his yanking off the SE. Taye Taiwo(6), though not bad, did not convince us that the best left back in French Ligue 1 in the just concluded season was on the field. Ordinary at best. Osaze(5) can be also excused as the Mikels and Kalus given the midfield were not effective enough to supply passes to the wingers, but he still couldn't make productive use of the few balls that came his way. Nsofor(6) made a couple of good runs but still not effective enough. Substitute Kanu(5) tried his best to re-enact the Vs kenya performance, but didn;t yield result. But at least the midfield became better than before his introduction. Eneramo(4) continued to prove me right that Martins and Yakubu, though far from teh Yekinnis and Siasias, are still Nigeria's best bet at teh moment, forget about Martins' miss versus Mozambique. Nigeria's number 9 jersey is too big for all the Akpalas and Eneramos of this world. Utaka(4): I shouted on top of my voice as if Amodu would hear me from far away Tunis for his introduction when Uche and Osaz were not delivering, but I only wasted my saliva an off-form IK Uche was still more visible. No single cross, but we can give him the excuse of too little time to assess him.

All in all, I think we need Martins and Yakubu back in this team. Plus Obasi in September, one can only hope things will get better.

Answer anyone: Is there any country poorer than Nigeria in counter-attacking?
Islam › Re: Re: Islam: D Religion Of D Educatd N D Wise by Jarus(m): 11:18am On Jun 19, 2009
Bro Aremu, kindly continue ur discussn in previous thread. This thread is unnecessary. Locked.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: FIFA Confederations Cup: South Africa '09 Official Thread by Jarus(m): 8:59am On Jun 19, 2009
CIV may be more talented, Cameroun and Nigeria may be more famous, but I don't think anybody will deny the fact that Egypt play the best football in Africa and indeed they are Africa's best.

Their style of play, and for most North African countries generally, looks Eurpean. Free flowing, teamwork, perfect understanding, courage unlike typical African country that plays gbugbugbu, physical football with some flashes of individual skills as is the case with Nigeria, CIV,Ghana and most guilty Cameroun.

The fact is, to cage, or at least put up a good showing showing against any European or South American team, you need tp play like them, not the typical African physical football. North Africans naturally play this kind of football.

The good thing is that Nigeria can also play this kind of football, at least the golden generation of JJ-Finidi-Amuneke-Amokachi-Oliseh-Siasia. In fact it used to be our traditional style of play before our guys began to fumble. Up to 1998, everybody acknowledged the fact that Nigeria's style of play was un-African and more like European.

But now, we have a set of individual talents that prefer to play to the gallery than as a team. But as the Yoruba would say 'ko kin tan l'ara omo oba ko ma ku dansaki'(A prince will still have soem respect no matter his fall), even in this trying moment of Nigerian football, we still show some flashes of this our trado style in some matches like that against France and that against Ireland and Jamaica in 2004 Unity cup(or was it 2003?). Against an europena team, I believe our boys can also play like Egypt, but the only problem is unlike the Egyptians, our boys' ego problem may still reflect.


But I strongly believe Nigeria will rise again with their entertaining football, that makes African proud.


Please I don't want to see any Gabon or Burkina Faso in SA. Egypt, Nigeria, CIV, Ghana and Cameroun are Africa's best bet.
Islam › Re: Barka Juma'ah by Jarus(m): 8:33am On Jun 19, 2009
Salam Brothers & Sisters,

Barka Jumu'ah.

Let's not forget to observe the ettiquettes of Jum'ah and go to mosque early.
Politics › Re: I Am Not A Yoruba Man – Former Sokoto Gov by Jarus(m): 8:23am On Jun 19, 2009
I think the journalist that wrote the story about the man being Yoruba committed a major gaffe. It is common saying in journalism that when you are in doubt, don't report it. The journalist did not do his investigation well. On the man's strong refutation of the story, I think it's in order. If he didn't come out to debunk it, it could affect his political standing in Sokoto/Zamfara states. He would be regarded as a liar that lied to become governor. etc. I reason with him.

There are however several northern topshots that actually have Yoruba origin. Some make it known, some don't. For example, the late Pan-Africanist, Professor Tajudeen Abdul Raheem that died in Kenya weeks ago, claimed Funtua,Katsina state throughout his life, despite having Ogbomoso origin. But he used to say his parents are from Ogbomoso but he was from Funtua. His parent migrated from Ogbomosho to Funtua before he was born, but he was born and bred in Funtua. I also remember reading sometime ago that a commissioner in Zamfara state is a Yoruba man, also from Ogbomosho.
There are many of them like that. I served in Sokoto and I saw many Yoruba, some from my town, also claiming Sokoto indigeneship. I don't have any problem with that, what I disliked is some of them denying their Yoruba origin(imagine somebody lying to me that she was not Yoruba, taht she only lived with 'them', that was how she understand the language.). By the same token, attributing Yoruba to somebody who is not , like this man, could also be infuriating.
Properties › Delete me by Jarus(op): 3:47pm On Jun 18, 2009
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Deal concluded. Pls delete.
Culture › Re: Nairaland Official Igbo, Hausa and Yoruba Dictionary by Jarus(m): 3:27pm On Jun 18, 2009
English: Padlock

Yoruba: Agadagodo
Islam › Re: Brothers An Sister In Islam by Jarus(m): 1:42pm On Jun 18, 2009
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Islam › 'Islam For Muslims' Library by Jarus(op): 9:46am On Jun 18, 2009
Investment › Re: Top 10 Best Nig. Investment Banks In This Meltdown Period? by Jarus(m): 9:58pm On Jun 17, 2009
See my response 2moro by God's grace. Replying 4rm fone, so constrained 2 type much. U no say me i b talkative or is it writeative, lol. Gudnyt
Culture › Re: If You Can Speak Yoruba, Talk It In Here! by Jarus(m): 6:06pm On Jun 17, 2009
Enlenyayin o. Mo kan ni kin yooju si yi ni o. Ehu, enle. O daabo.
Food › Re: Kwuli Kwuli Lovers by Jarus(m): 6:03pm On Jun 17, 2009
Kai, I chop enof kulikuli while growing up in Kwara in the early 90s. With garri, kai. .
Investment › Re: Top 10 Best Nig. Investment Banks In This Meltdown Period? by Jarus(m): 4:58pm On Jun 17, 2009
worldz:
@Jarus

I will really appreciate it if you will continue with the infos u were giving before about the recruitment process in the oil and gas industry as u promised

Under 'achievement', you will be asked to give an achievement you have made in your life(they don't take academic achievement, so they won't take First Class as an achievement from you. I will give practical question-answer scenario later in this thread when I'm less busy).

COMING SOON: MOBIL AND OANDO. I will invite my friend in Chevron global headquarters in US, loma, also a Nairalander, to come and give us hints about Chevron, but the challenge is that he is in their IT dept and may know little about recruitment in their Finance. But let's see what he can offer here.

There are lots of people out there like me u are really helping. cheers!
Noted. I have not forgotten. Just quite busy.
Investment › Re: Top 10 Best Nig. Investment Banks In This Meltdown Period? by Jarus(m): 2:34pm On Jun 17, 2009
Sagamite:
I am even struggling of what the thread should be titled as. grin grin grin
Me too o. It started with ranking of Nigeria's IBs, then IB general market outlook, later info on getting job in IBs, later oil companies, later capitalism/welfarism argument and still counting. grin

Maybe the title should have been something like RANDOM DISCUSSION ON INVESTMENT BANKING AND NIGERIAN FINANCIAL TERRAIN.
Education › Re: Strictly For Great Ife by Jarus(m): 2:24pm On Jun 17, 2009
No wahala.

. . . .and we will appreciate if Laplace can come and educate us on his 'ingenuity' that made him rise to the position of 'Customer Business Development Manager of a Multinational company' in less than two years of graduation

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