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free2ryhme: guy na your village be dat .. Na wa ooo .... SO na where our presido come from be this ... oma she ooooSome of the things you people do make me wonder whether some of you think with your anus. Next time just use @op. |
abifoluwa:2?? Thats too much. I would have given it 0.5 but considering the fact thats its consuming space on NL, I will subtract 1 and give it -0.5. |
Kobojunkie: a) Your story sounds ridiculous. If you need to make something up, you can definitely do a better job than the above. I mean "I can't go a week without his sensual touch" . . . where did you get that silly line from? A terrible Nollywood movie? Abeg . . stop watching all that trash and get you some good books to read.Incoherent speech! Sitting in front of a computer all day is really drilling holes in your brain. |
jmaine: That's quite strange . . . Are you sure the size is not above nairaland specified limit . . .No I haven't. The pics are just a few kbs. Well it may get rectified later. |
jmaine: ^^Man some people are just too dense. How can someone decide to argue on such a non-issue BTW, it looks like I can't attach pics. They don't just show up after uploading. |
chucky234: In few years back Nokia was the clear leader not because of quality or innovative designs but by number of phones they pushed into the market monthly,RIM was the real leader before the emergence of Apple as Samsung and LG followed HTC step after the success story of the G1 or Era G1.Oh my! You are really worse than I thought. Did you just say Nokia didn't offer quality or innovative products? MAN WHEN DID YOU START USING A SMARTPHONE? Even the most rabid of Nokia haters all agree on one point that Nokia makes quality and innovative hardware. The last time I checked, Google is still free. You really should take a look at the range of Nokia devices over the last decade before talking empty. Galaxy series borrowed from HTC?? Now you really need to see a doctor. Even a child born this year knows that the success of the galaxy line is heavily dependent on galaxy s which was a hopeless and shameless copy of the iPhone both in design and interface. No where does HTC come close. You should check this and see the real situation of HTC in terms of profit. http://www.gsmarena.com/apple_took_77_of_the_smartphone_industry_profits_last_quarter-news-4619.php |
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chucky234: Hahaha I laugh your empty brain,HTC has the highest LTE patents with Samsung coming closest,in 2010 HTC manufactured the first LTE device with the release of the Evo 4G.I don't want to start throwing insults, but you're clearly blank. Copy and paste ain't gonna help you as this discussion is way way above your capacity. Did you just say HTC has the highest LTE patents? You must be hallucinating. Now FYI, Nokia has the largest amount of LTE patents with almost 20% followed by Qualcomm then Samsung. HTC is almost non-existent here ( http://www.newstrackindia.com/newsdetails/2012/08/31/371-Samsung-threatens-to-sue-Apple-if-next-iPhone-has-4G-LTE-network.html ) - The US is not the world. Nokia led the smartphone race for over a decade while being almost non-existent in the US. - HTC making the first LTE device has nothing to do with its patent. Google maps first introduced indoor viewing into their maps but Nokia had already patented it several years before. There are alot of Nokia patents that first appeared on other phones and not on Nokia phones. - I CAN'T BELIEVE I'M ARGUING PATENTS BETWEEN NOKIA AND HTC. BEFORE HTC CAME INTO EXISTENCE, NOKIA ALREADY HAD MORE PATENTS (BOTH IN QUANTITY AND QUALITY) THAN HTC HAS TODAY. - Go and ask yourself when HTC came into existence. Then ask yourself when Nokia started making phones. So yes HTC created the first windows phone but that was when Nokia was ruling the world with symbian. - Nokia was central in developing GSM, GPRS, EDGE, W-CDMA, HSPA, LTE and Wi-Fi technologies, and holds massive patents in these areas. - HTC won the WMC device of the year for 2011, who do you think won it not just in 2012 but many times before? - Nokia currently has by far the most mobile patents. Not just that, even in 2012, they still have the highest application so far this year. - Nokia recently sued your darling HTC cos of patents. Perhaps you should take a look of how they came to their knees. http://www.fosspatents.com/2012/07/frand-hallucination-htc-raises-frand.html?m=1 http://www.fosspatents.com/2012/07/in-response-to-nokias-itc-complaint-htc.html?m=1 - HTC has the least of patents among major mobile OEMs. Get that into your skull. - HTC and patents are two words that don't go together. How many times have you heard of HTC receiving licensing fees for their patents? Now compare that to Nokia which receives massive licensing fees yearly with the number still growing. Go and look at this and you would see why Nokia holds the ace as far as mobile patents are concerned. No one comes near. Your HTC is not even on the list. http://seekingalpha.com/article/820881-nokia-patent-portfolio-an-untapped-goldmine I'M STILL WAITING FOR YOU TO COME BACK AND DISPLAY HOW MUCH OF A FOOL YOU ARE. Below are images showing the patent lords both in general and under LTE. Can you please show yourself where your HTC falls? |
[quote author=Lord_Reed]2nd paragraph in my op:[/quote]Hmm... Just saw it though I'm quite skeptical. |
kellystech: Dear Nokia,First and formost, this post is one hell of a misinformed one. Let me take it on two points- Nokia and android and the other on the current situation with MS. First Nokia and android. Let me for the umpteenth time ask. APART FROM SAMSUNG, HOW MUCH PROFIT ARE OTHER ANDROID OEMS MAKING?? The mistake you people always make is that you think because android is popular, anybody that touches it becomes successful. Maybe you should ask yourself why Apple rakes in 75% of smartphone and tablet profits while still selling considerably lower numbers than android. When Nokia contemplated using android, Google didn't allow them any opportunity to differentiate their products. That would have meant the death of alot of Nokia products like maps. I hope you know that Google once threatened to ban Motorolla cos they wanted to develop their maps. Now take a look at the success Nokia maps is today with over 85% of inbuilt navigation systems in cars and a whole lot using it. So at best, they would have been also-rans like all other android OEMs apart from Samsung are. That in itself would have been an insult to Nokia and wouldn't have helped out their financial situation, instead it would have worsened it. With WP, Nokia has the chance to differentiate their brand and still use their services. If WP is able to grab say 10% market share, that would be much more profitable for Nokia than using android. I believe that Google are currently regretting not licensing Nokia as that would have killed of any chance WP had to survive. Instead they ruined that opportunity and allowed Nokia partner with an opponent. To the current issue with WP. You should understand the basics. - You have to understand that Nokia, MSFT and HTC are all companies looking for profit. - HTC has made WP for a very long time before Nokia and you don't expect them not to have some benefits. - HTC has much better presence than Nokia in the US. - What WP needs now is a good userbase so partnering with HTC and Nokia would atleast ensure worldwide availability. - Nokia still receives alot of support from MSFT. $1B yearly and thats the little we know. - Nokia have come out to say they don't make products for others. Besides, they do not have the capacity to do that. They have moved most of their factories to Asia and allow others to make some of their phones so that they can adequately meet global demand. - Nokia wanted to create their brand with WP which is what Lumia stands for so it wouldn't have been wise to have the WP tag on their phones. - They have succeeded with that as the Lumia brand is currently more popular than WP. - Using the WP tag is not important just as the droid tag for Motorolla phones did not help them in anyway. - MSFT clearly want to create their own brand which is WP and surface just as Nokia also want to create theirs. - If Nokia makes a tablet, then only it would carry the Lumia tag. LASTLY AND MOST IMPORTANTLY, USING ANDROID WOULD HAVE BEEN THE WORST THING THAT EVER HAPPENED TO NOKIA. ALL YOU ANDROID USERS SHOULD BE SATISFIED WITH ALL THE ANDROID OEMS YOU'VE GOT. IF YOU WANT A NOKIA DEVICE, YOU KNOW WHAT TO DO. |
[quote author=emeka.D.]they really bleeped up, why go for windows when android was there. Why cant they be like htc that builds both android and windows phones. HTC of yesterday![/quote]So how has that turned out for HTC in terms of profit? Do you know how much Samsung and HTC pay Microsoft for every android device made and how much Microsoft pays Nokia to use WP? I'm sure you think that just making phones bring in profit. Apple doesn't sell much phones as compared to android but they still make 75% of smartphone and tablet profit. Nokia has a much better shot at succeeding with WP than with android. |
chucky234: RIM have a far better chance of survival than Nokia with its BB10 due for launch in Q1 of 2013.Oh this blind man again. This just shows how blank you are. |
chucky234: Where did you borrowed your lies,the fact that Nokia is cash crunched is an open secret as their market shares has been on down slide in the last few years.Man your whole article screams novice, novice, novice! The fact that Nokia has financial problems is not in convention. My question is how many of the other OEMs apart from Samsung and Apple are doing any better. Did you just say that almost all manufacturers depend on HTC for software?? You're not just a novice but a blind one. You should get yourself informed and fast. Now let me enlighten you. Nokia controls almost 50% of very important mobile patents. Their only worthy competitor is Motorolla and that was the major reason Google bought them for almost $12B. Samsung also has quite a number as regards the AMOLED screen technology and LTE. So as regards patent talk on mobiles, HTC is absolutely no where |
[quote author=Lord_Reed]Take it easy man. No one says Nokia is moving out, read the article well. It clearly states that Nokia will lease back the property.[/quote]Clearly states?? Maybe I forgot my glasses. But if Nokia pointing out others that have done thesame and rented it back is what you mean by clearly stating that they're going to rent it back then that is lacking. |
kellystech: Dey should just give up dia ego and sign contract with google to produce android, dem go sell scatter cos people still loves dia productYou should first tell yourself how many android OEMs apart from Samsung are making sizeable profits. They all have a higher chance at being bought before Nokia. |
This is the most biased and untrue version of this story I've seen. This move is clearly a very popular option in Nordic countries and its been noted that many other Finish companies making much more profit than Nokia have done thesame thing. There its much cheaper to sell it and rent it out again as you cut out on alot of tax and maintenance fees. This is what Nokia is doing as they are clearly not moving out. As for the doom day prophets, you should know that apart from Apple and perhaps Samsung, Nokia has a much better chance of survival than say BB, HTC, Motorolla or the mobile division of Sony, and most other OEMs. They've got enough patents to last a life time. Also their navigation and map service is doing very well with more than 4 in 5 (85%) of inbuilt navigation systems in vehicles using it. Currently being used by Mercedes, Volks Wagen, Hyundai, Audi Pioneer, Oracle, Bing, Garmin, Groupon, Amazon and a whole lot more. Lets also not forget the Asha line that is competing with low end androids and is the only line of Nokia phones making clear profit. So even in the most unlikely of situations where their new Lumia phones don't sell too well, they will still be around for quite some time. Y'all need to get informed before making blind comments. |
OlaAjia: Lumia 920 is not the WP8 flagship device, it is Nokia's flagship device. Nokia =/= WP8As of the time I wrote that, the HTC phones had not yet been released and Lumia series were being considered as flagships. Even now that the HTCs have been put as the official flagships by Microsoft, the Lumias are undoubtedly the more popular option and are still considered as the elite group of WP to many. With 'Lumia' being a more popular search term than 'windows phone', its safe to say that the only reason alot of people know about WP is cos of the Lumia series as WP never got into alot of major markets until they arrived. So Lumia is to WP what the galaxy line is to android and what Nokia was to symbian and with well over 50% user base in less than a year, I see no reason for they not to be considered as flagships. As regards the UI- I agree that its quite subjective and that's why I used the phrase 'to me'. That said, I gave very objective reasons why I consider it as the best as it effectively combines the pros of both android and iOS. As regards speed, judging OSes based on that has never and will never be an exercise in futility and besides speed wasn't the only feature I listed. Yes for the high-ends the issue of lag may have been reduced that its not so visible in some general tasks, this is not the case with the low-ends where the lag still abounds and the speed of the OS comes into play. As far as iPhone 6, Galaxy SIV and perhaps Lumia 930 and those after them will be faster than their current iteration, then it still means that there is still alot of room for improvement as far as speed is concerned. If not, why do OEMs still release faster CPUs and more powerfull GPUs? |
OlaAjia: Lumia 920 is not the WP8 flagship device, it is Nokia's flagship device. Nokia =/= WP8 |
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OXYZ: Biko, wetin una dey call wp8.Please,enlighten my ignorance.Someone asked a similar question not too long ago here ( https://www.nairaland.com/1054377/what-difference-btw-window-phones ). So I would give you thesame reply I gave there. The main difference is the operating system |
civac: ...pls how good is nokia 701. A friend wants to sell his own.As a current user of 701, I can confidently tell you the phone is good. Infact I consider it the 2nd best symbian phone currently only second to 808 pureview. One of the major reason why I like it is that its relatively very cheap. It offers so much for So little and I don't think its a phone you would ever regret buying. The display is good, look, feel and form is great and the phone is very snappy. But I have to ask why your friend wants to sell his. Hope its not faulty. |
omafones: Having handled the iPhone 5 and the Nokia Lumia 900, if the 920 has a similar or better to the 900, it is definitely better than the iPhone 5.Mr Omafones, why have you changed your opinion so fast. Not too long ago you said that comparing other phones to the iPhone is more like comparing a Porsche to a Tata. |
jmaine: Lol, why say so ?Huh? This thread wasn't supposed to get0o the FP. Never thought of that. |
[quote author=Lord_Reed]The Android fragmentation is a pain for many people and seems to frustrate those who should be having an easy time of making use of the OS and its ecosystem. In this thread I want to see if we can discuss possible solutions. I think two solutions to the fragmentation are: 1. Let the OEMs be mandated to ship stock Android on their phones by Google then offer their UI customizations as downloadable content. This would solve the update issue as all Google has to do is create the stock ROMs with hooks for the UI customizations. Everything pretty much runs as an app so this shouldn't be hard and since Google has to optimize the OS for wide range of hardware they'd be forced to make it more efficient in utilizing system resources. 2. Google should create an app zoom-er native to the OS and declare a particular size for all apps as standard for all app developers to use. The app zoom-er will scale the app to the screen size on the current hardware the app is running on. This should help app developers cut down on the number of adjustments they have to make and possible even out the fragmentation between phones and tablets. What is your idea?[/quote]The reason is simple. The official customization on Android is just too much. Worse still is that majority of them are not useful. OEMs should be allowed to make very minimal changes to the android UI so that updates can be done easily. The rest should come with hacks and custom roms as those are won't affect the update process. Also, Google should try and standardize the processors used just like Microsoft is doing with WP and Qualcomm. It doesn't have to be just one vendor, but they should reduce the number used. |
I would suggest creating an app that will suit our needs as Nigerians. I know this may be out of your purview, but why not create a fully featured app for a Nigerian site like Nairaland. (maybe in partnership with Seun). I mean one with a nice interface that allows for full functionality and may even be able to detect if ones post is quoted and an option to dislike comments (this would first have to be implemented on NL). You can also attach social services to it that would enable instant messaging, room chat e.t.c just like 2go without necessarily divulging ones identity. There might also be room for moderate ads to serve as some reward. Lastly, if you're going to make such an app, you should start with BlackBerry and then Symbian with also a java version before moving to Android and iOS. Reason being that such apps thrive on user-base and the BB, Symbian and java phones still dominate the Nigerian market. You may need to partner with those conversant with other OSes |
Overlord999: Somebody is pissed off.This is what I call incoherent speech. Its no use explaining Puremotion HD+ to you since you would rather have a DSLR than a good camera on a phone. Its funny you think that if GS III was the only android available, it would come near the iPhone. Why not start by tell me why just the iPhone and iPad rake in 75% of profits and the whole android crew is left to scrape the rest. Or you can start by telling me why almost all android OEMs apart from Samsung are either making losses or making very minimal profit. Lastly, I'm not asking you to prove why Note 2 is better But why you think that GS III and Note 2 are undoubtedly the best devices around. It shouldn't be so hard for the guru. |
Bawss1: Anyone willing to speculate how much the Lumia 920 will sell for in 9ja? Obviously it's going to be way less than what the I5 is going for. I think it will be in the 95 - 100K range. Anyways, thats going to be my next mobile purchase.If I take it that the speculated price in Europe is a little cheaper than GS III, then I will put it between 90k - 105k. Its just that I can't also see its price conflicting with that of Lumia 900. So it may be priced higher or the Lumia might drop quickly to reflect its price around the world. |
on which platform do you want to develop the app? |
aieromon: Hehehe. I recently ditched the Nokia N8 for the Sony Xperia S but it still doesn't give me that exciting feeling I had with my previous Nokia devices. I don't have any issues with the android OS as I currently enjoy the Galaxy Tab 10.1.I just hope Microsoft and Nokia don't let WP8 go the way of Meego.You again. I still remember you. Hardware-wise, Lumia 920 has owned me except that it doesn't have user replaceable battery and memory card. I just want to see what WP8 holds. Hope its worth the hardware of 920 |
Overlord999: Am using an android phone. But dat doesn't mean am a fandroid. Am loyal only to what's best for me & for most people. I have nothing against nokia. If meego was still supported. I would still be using N9. But as for wp8 hell no. Evil Microsoft is trying to suck nokia dry. And buy them cheap later on.You don't need to say anything cos its clear you reek of fanboyism. I wonder how what you said has anything to do with this thread. I'm still waiting for your reply here: https://www.nairaland.com/1039582/nokia-lumia-920...finally-smartphone-nokia Like I said to you on the other thread, you should stick to what you know. Mind you leave Nokias history alone cos you're clearly lacking there. |
Overlord999: I see lot of nokia fanboys here. Hoping one day Nokia can become glorious again . Well will have to wait for sales to do the talking. Galaxy note, Which was considered a niche smartphone outsold the entire lumia phones, how pathetic And for the record I don't own a galaxy s3. Waiting for note 2(which absolutely blows lumia 920 out of the water)I'm beginning to see a trend where when rabid fanboys loose focus of what to say they turn around and start calling others fanboys. FYI none of us are using Lumia phones. We just appreciate good stuff when we see it. Do you know who a fanboy is? Its someone who believes that nothing out there is better than what he has or uses and any new or exciting stuff he does not have is not useful until he has it. Its a shame you can't think for yourself and form an independent opinion instead you go online and copy and paste stuff like I don't like tiles, I would rather have a dslr, I don't need maps. How pathetic! Can you state your purpose of coming to this thread cos so far all I can see from you (apart from shouting that Lumia 920 is not worth it) is utter and total ignorance. You said the phones features are gimmics? Perhaps you should tell us just few ways how you come to the conclusion that GS III is king. Lastly if you grade phones based on units sold, then you would be a fool to be using an android device. I hope you know that both the GS III and the note come no where iPhones in terms of sales. Worse still is the fact that apple gets 75% of smartphone profit all on its own. So I'm still wondering where your note falls. Lastly, you should state how the note 2 blows the lumia away. I hope you know that very few features of WP8 are currently known. So starting from the hardware to the part of the software that is known (like maps) why don't you tell us how the note (which is a phablet) is better than this phone. Next time you shouldn't leave your comfort zone. |
Surprisingly, the release also coincided with further price cuts in Europe. I have totally lost count of how many times the prices of these phones have been cut. Just wondering when such will start reflecting here. http://wmpoweruser.com/nokia-cuts-the-prices-of-their-windows-phone-7-5-handsets/ |
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