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coogar: see - this is the reason i don't get into debates with neophytes! the apple iphone is unique in that it encompasses more across the board than any other smartphone available! it doesn't have to be the very best in every category but apple's consistent at top in power, style, design, os and its user-friendliness!

You must be a comedian.
Me a neophyte? No problem since thats the name you give to everyone with a different opinion from yours.
But be rest assured that if I was to take you on this, you would be lost for words.
Well.. Mr. Guru ride on.

coogar: this is power.....

https://www.androidauthority.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/09/iphone-5-galaxy-s3-sunspider-benchmark.jpg

Hahahaha.
Benchmarks?? You never cease to amaze me.

Like I said, I'm in no mood for this, but c'mon if my choice was based on benchmarks, I would be shifting base every three months. Afterall I think Sony just produced a very powerful device and by January or February at most, this will be surpassed. Moreover, the current WP8 phones are not even listed.

coogar: there's a thin line between open-mindedness and cluelessness. you could be subconsciously clueless.

Hahahaha
Thats typical.

I will leave you to your views cos I usually don't like getting into some kinds of argument.
From your posts on this thread, its clear you believe the iPhone is the all-powerful, all-conquering smartphone.
Thats where we differ cos I believe that currently in 2012 no OS or manufacturer has it all.
Like I said, ride on with your belief.

coogar: if its down to looks alone, iPhone wins. if its down to the total package, iPhone still wins! it's not about size - it's about style and power! i am already running the new iOS 6 even before release of iPhone 5 - that's what apple are all about! fandroids are still hoping to get the jellybean months after it was released!

Thats your opinion and certainly not mine.
From your posts on this page, its clear you're zeroed in on apple. I tend to have a more open-minded approach to things.

Like I said previously on another thread, if I was to choose a single phone out of all flagships released this year, it would be the Lumia 920- Again thats my opinion which I must say is a well informed one.

4llerbuntu: BLEH practically nearly all iphone users also buy it because "its the iphone"

Wait o... What is wrong here?
I said IF IT WAS DOWN TO LOOKS ALONE AND NOTHING ELSE, then it would be a close call between the iPhone and lumia with GSIII coming a distant third.

4llerbuntu: I will never understand people who use phones in bright red, yellow etc etc colors. jeez.

All the phones I've used have been dark colours cos I thought its cool although I prefer white when I see it with people.
That said, this recent colour splurge with WP got me thinking otherwise. Its like a breath of fresh air.
The only thing is dat it would get everyone looking at your phone once its out. Some people might like this, some might not.

Although there is the traditional black, I most likely will pick a bright one (Maybe yellow or blue) if I purchase one.

[quote author=Lord_Reed]I think he was trying to point out that it can't be rare considering the number of units sold. Surely a good percentage of those who bought it must like its aesthetics.[/quote]I really don't think so cos I've seen alot of complaints from them. Even most reviews say so.

Most bought it cos it was GSIII
If it was just down to looks alone and nothing else, I think the iPhone might take it.

[quote author=Lord_Reed]@jedisco
FACT: Beauty is subjective

FACT: Units sold is not always indicative of beauty eg VW Beetle (old skool).

I have held both the iphone 4s and the GSIII and I found I preferred the aesthetics of the GSIII the plastics not withstanding. I have also held a Lumia and used it. None of these phones are by any means ugly but to say that it is rare for the SGS3 to be praised is quite frankly a malignant.[/quote]I agree with you. Thats why I told him that though his opinion is a rare one, I still respect it as his choice.

But I'm still wondering what the 20 million units sold stuff he brought up has to do with this.

This was your initial post:

walcolm: i dont know where you read or watched your review. the complaint about the GSIII i have heard talked about in review has to do wit the fact that the body is made of glossy, plastic material. not a single one about it not feeling comfortable and natural when you hold it

i have seen lots of iPhone4S. Iphone5 is only just taller, thinner without a corresponding upscale in width
the Nokia Lumia 920 design is the same as the Lumia 800 with difference only in dimensions. it even has a glossier finish than the GSIII and its all angular. those sharp edges will chip off with use
the Motorola is just plain ugly because it has nothing catchy about its design

i'll take the GSIII over them design-wise any day. your choice is your own

Can you please explain to me how this post was not comparing them based on design? Maybe there are some invisible words I'm not seeing.

walcolm: RARE?!

you need to get a dictionary and check the definition of rare. 20 million still counting doesn't sound rare to me

You were not referring to units sold (cos in that case iPhone would be the winner). You were clearly said 'design-wise'.

walcolm: RARE?!

you need to get a dictionary and check the definition of rare. 20 million still counting doesn't sound rare to me

You were not referring to units sold (cos in that case iPhone would be the winner). You were clearly talking design wise.

Let me add two apps. Will post some later.
They are apps that let you hide your media and files (documents, images e.t.c.)

Safe Deposit- Easy to use and simple. To hide a file, you have to know the file name and location in the file manager. The only problem is that it saves the hidden files in C: so you have to have some space there.

Smart lock- though its icon is not as beautiful as that of Safe Deposit, access to it is superb. When you open the app, it shows you a battery status bar which you have to press for sometime to show you where to input your pass. You also have to press this for sometime to get into the main app. So its much easier to hide. With some other apps, you can rename it and change the icon giving you a completely anonymous app. It hides music, vids and pics. Can be got for free from Nokia store.

emabe: I agree wit u to an extend but u r not on d point. All these thing BB can do android does it better. When u compared d apps on BB d& androids, u'd see android apps r better, more cost effective & cheaper. Like i said, i used d two. I used to have 2 buy my BB apps but since i upgraded 2 android I've not bought and app yet cos almost all sold app on android have free versions. Checking a woman's pregnancy u mentioned in BB, I know d app and used it too. Its finer on android, oh and also faster. Look just go for android and u won't regret it.

Mr. Man, are you on sharks??
Wetin concern you and my post or didn't you see I was replying someone?

[quote author=Dada-Stephen]The bad thing about Nigerians is that we are only consumers of gadgets but ignoramuses when it comes to its know how.
Its not a good thing to compare BlackBerry with any Nokia or Java phone.
Blackberries save u a lot of cash for data subscription.
You can use a BlackBerry to check a woman's pregnancy status
You can use your BlackBerry GPS to locate anywhere
Have you used the BlackBerry password keeper?
The sound record portion of the BlackBerry was made for journalists and musicians, even if u whisper,it picks it loud and clear.
There are more other useful and dangerous things you could do with the BB that other phones cannot do but won't be revealed to you for some reasons. You have to research and not just talk the BB down.
Its a tool and not just a phone[/quote]Hahahaha

Trust me, I love BBs especially cos of their cheap data cost but you post got me laughing hard.

Infact I was just glancing through posts but when I saw yours, I couldn't resist replying.
The funny thing is that you claim to know alot. Please what are those 'dangerous' things?

tbaba1234: There is no such thing in Islam, The only people we hear about 72 virgins from are non-muslims... Most learned muslims have no idea what you are talking about. The only narration that has something of this nature is a fabricated one and is not taken seriously by muslims..

It seems you guys are more willing to tell us about our faith than learn about it.

Man I don't want to get into this religious stuff so this might be my last post here. Every man to his belief

Well I grew up in the North and have alot of Muslim friends and they all believe in the 72 virgin stuff. As a kid, I got to know about it from Muslims.
The funny thing is the way they qualify it- 'de masu nono nono a jiki' (literarily meaning with breastt breastt all over). Though I later got to know it meant fully breasted.
Try telling an average Hausa Muslim that its not true and watch his reaction.


Out of curiosity I read about it sometime ago and just like most controversial stuff in Islam, you find that the Arab Muslims believe it and the Western Muslims (apologists) find a way of twisting it. Here they said the passage was referring to dates (fruits).
I had to look up the original quotes in the Hadith (I think). That was where I saw the fully breasted stuff and from the various descriptions, it was clear the passage was referring to a woman.

But again it got me thinking. Why do Western Muslims try to cover parts of Islam they don't find pleasing? Just like the age Aisha was when she married. They prefer to extrapolate through History just to prove she was over 16 forgetting that she herself stated that she was only 9.

Like I said, its been long I checked it up online and so the details are not clear in my head but the message is.
I don't have the strength for an argument on religion. The net is free for all.

conyema12: Nice espose` my guy I have been wanting to comfirm this; Is it true that Jijhadist are entitled to 70 virgins when they die. No hard feelings just 4 knwledge sake

Why did you minus two? Don't let me slaughter you o. Its 72 not 70.

@OP Why did you buy it in the first place?


For all those hating on BB, why don't you just stick to what you prefer and what works for you and leave others to what they prefer.

Kudos to our JTF guys. Our Police and entire citizenry should learn from them

The Nigerian Army is one of the few good institutions still left in this country.

walcolm: i dont know where you read or watched your review. the complaint about the GSIII i have heard talked about in review has to do wit the fact that the body is made of glossy, plastic material. not a single one about it not feeling comfortable and natural when you hold it

i have seen lots of iPhone4S. Iphone5 is only just taller, thinner without a corresponding upscale in width
the Nokia Lumia 920 design is the same as the Lumia 800 with difference only in dimensions. it even has a glossier finish than the GSIII and its all angular. those sharp edges will chip off with use
the Motorola is just plain ugly because it has nothing catchy about its design

i'll take the GSIII over them design-wise any day. your choice is your own

Like you said, its your choice. A very very rare one I must say.

For me, design and build-wise, the SIII is a distant third among the three.
The choice will be between the iPhone and the lumia.

SimonAndal: Add 7k to that your 25k and buy a Samsung Galaxy Ace. It's an android phone and is waaaaay better than all these "crappy" suggestions.

First, the op asked for a symbian phone. If you wanted to recommend an android device you should have done that without calling other peoples post crappy.

Secondly, recommending a low-end android device to someone is something I never do. As far as low-end android device is concerned, what you get is more of a buggy annoying device.


So the delusion of 'its an android phone' doesn't apply in any way to the cheaper devices. Symbian on the other hand gives much better performance on lower specs. Someone buying a phone of about 25k knows what to expect.


I said Nokia 500 because I am absolutely sure that Nokia 500 will provide a much more better user experience in almost every way than the galaxy ace.

omafones: my 'bad' (as my son would say) Lumia 900 is available immediately for N89,000 (Black) or N99,000 (Blue)

K. Thats about 6months gap from release though I just checked ur site but couldn't find it.
Well I think I've derailed this thread enough. Let me leave it for those interested in the product at hand.
Though I'm surprised some not-too-happy android users haven't shown up.

omafones: Nokia Lumia 920 is scheduled for release next year, as with Blackberry 10

Personally I think the really big thing is Microsoft Surface.

No my broda (or sista) I don't think market will spoil because those that want iPhone 5 on day of release no bi my mouth or yours fit remove their mind.

Me and my peeps are sleeping outside Apple on Thursday nite to get them on Friday, jump on a plane and be in my office Saturday morning for the lucky few that want them.

I said Lumia 900 which has been released for over 6 months now. I just want to use it to gauge when 920 may become available here.
BTW 920 is scheduled for release next month not next year.

Safe journey to you and your peeps. There sure will be willing buyers though none has showed up yet.

Lol. Make I no spoil business for you but your Mercedes and Tata analogy is way off.
BTW when is lumia 900 likely to be available in Nigeria.

Hahahaha.
215k for a non-luxury phone??
I would rather use that money to get the Lumia 920 and galaxy note 2 or better still the Lumia and Microsoft Surface tablet when they become available.
Those interested can carry on with it.

walcolm: i'm still trying to understand why you think the GSIII design is ugly....personally, i like the consistent curved lines of the GS3 better than the rigid looking motorola MAXX or Nokia 920

https://6.mshcdn.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/09/iphone-comparisonc.jpg

Just to chip in, the best way to gauge the beauty of a phone is by actually seeing it or asking those who have used it.
The online picture of every phone out there looks beautiful.
When it comes to the GSIII, alot of users and reviews as well have complained about its looks and feel.
I haven't seen anyone referring to the iPhone 5 or Lumia 920 as not being awesome look and feel-wise. The only complain about the Lumia is that its shiny. Nokia has said that the good thing is that it does not fade and scratches are easily hidden cos the material used below is thesame as that untop unlike aluminium which makes scratches easily visible or plastic which feels meh

Impulse80: Okay not more than 25k

The best symbian phone you can get for that price range is Nokia 500. Not only is it the most current in that range but it runs symbian Belle which is several generations ahead of and way way better than S60V3 and S60V5 which is what you get on the lower C and E series.
Spec-wise, its also above its contemporaries. Here is a link to the spec page: http://www.gsmarena.com/nokia_500-4085.php

you didn't include the price range.

Who is responsible for attaching phone section threads to the front page?
It looks as though its only android and ios that reaches there.

Zeddicus: Anyone care to tell me how this L920 stacks up against the Galaxy Note 2? That's the device am patiently waiting for but being a former Nokia fanboy, I wouldn't mind getting the 920 if am convinced.

You should have asked how it stacks against the iPad. This is a phone the other is a phablet.
For now, very little is known of WP8 just that some previous limitations of WP7 have been addressed and it should be better than WP7 which BTW was good.
That said, they both have respectable hardware.

bigbrovar: Yeah Much good it did the x1 and the L900 before it. And like you noted about the superLCD Nokia is not the first to ship this tech. Might be marginally better than competition but its not something mind blowing as the way super amoled+ was with the sgs2 which completely out classed the existing competition when it was released.


Again playing catch with the hi res
Screen Game screen density gets to a certain point when it stop making a different anyway yes the Lumia has a slightly higher screen density than the iPhone Which is a great improvement for Nokia but again its a move which brings them inline with the current norm.



And of cause companies don't go over board in hyping their product at press releases .. one would have to wait till its released to get the verdict on that.


yaaarn that was the reaction this feature got on twitter as I was following the event. Cool feature to have no doubt.. but is this enough to get someone off the iphone? I doubt. Yes its a feature which would gladden anyone already out to get the lumia and who happens to leave in the cold region of the world.. not one to make anyone get of their iPhone/Android



Wireless charging is still generally (like nfc) a niche unless and until the wireless charger is included in the retail box for the device then it will continue to be something u tick in your specs check list. Even with that I have lost count of how many device have that on their spec sheet atm. Again Nokia is playing catch up to what already exist. How good their iteration of these features (which have become standard components of most smart phones nowadays) are in the real world is yet to be seen.

3) even it that turns out true I doubt this is possible. Android totally rules that space now.. any Chinese company can download the android source and slam it on a $50 Hardware while Techno, zte and Even samsung and others totally dominate the =>$70 Phone segment. Neither Wp8 nor Nokia can compete that low Both are too rigid. They are android devices that cost cheaper than Nokia s40 low budget phones.

In all the L920 is a good phone on paper. It features a great camera something which has been the trademark of Nokia since forever. But u get the feeling this device is a year late. It would have been different if it was released even before the galaxy s2 or at least around that time for it to have blown people's mind away.. all the buzz words like retina and wireless charging LTE and a 4.5 screen that super responsive would have won it phone of 2011 (same goes for wp8) even it shipped wp7 it would have been future proof. Imagine if the L920 had been the L900 and sold at $99? This was why the reception to the announcement was lukewarm at best. even Nokia shares lost close to 10 % value during the announcement and more when no release date was announced. It shows how less impressed the general world and even Nokia's share holders were.

Your post reeks of pessimism.
You say the phone is playing catchup and is late for 2012. I think the phone is even early for 2012.

This phone has :
* The best screen currently in terms of pixel density, outdoor clarity, design (curved), refresh rate. Mind you the high pixel density on lumias will be very important than other phones mainly cos of the way the UI is with large texts and tiles. This totally eliminates pixelated images.
* The best camera on a major flagship (808 wasn't major)
* will always be among the top three in terms of design and beauty.
* Next gen tech like NFC and wireless charging. Atleast it won't be outdated when those stuff become popular.
* Super sensitive touchscreen.

These are areas where it has bettered current flagships. Where it has not done that it has proved to be comparable.
Spec-wise, this phone is head and shoulders above anyother phone available now and any open minded person changing a phone and is aware of it will Seriously give it a thought.

So my question is what else does this phone need to be a 2012 phone?


WP doesn't need to sell $70 phones to become successful. Apple rakes in 75% of smartphone and tablet profits. I haven't heard of a $70 apple phone.
It would be atrocious to think Samsung makes much profit by selling those very cheap phones. Afterall, Nokia has consistently sold over 70 million feature phones for the past 3 quarters while still recording losses.
Even in the low range aspect, the Asha range is doing very very well. The only phone bringing in profit for Nokia.



You said the reception was lukewarm at best? I say the reception was great.
This is a phone that controls 2-3% in major markets and runs an OS that has disappointed its users over and over again. To make matters worse it was released just a week before the iPhone and yet its got so much media attention. Tell me how much better it would have performed?
Tell me which other phone has generated so much hype based on hardware alone with little or no information about the software?
95% of people talking good about the phone use other OSes. Tell me how many android or ios users you have seen come out openly to praise the other flagship?


The fall in share price was due to no information on release date which is excusable considering the little time Nokia had to make the phone. The share prices have since recovered in reaction to its good reception. Moreover using share prices to judge phones is too simplistic.

bizzlemie: thumbs up to yhu jedisco and co, gr8 job y'll r doing here. Pls i nid a link 2 download a bible 4 my nokia 701.....shld be sis, not java. 10x in anticipation

Thanks man.
Search for 'Mee Bible' and 'Bible' in Nokia store. They're both free
'Bible' has a brown icon and is more aesthetically pleasing but its only one version.
'Mee Bible' is written in Qt and is also nice. The good thing is that it has several very popular versions. Not only that, it also offers indigenous languages like Efik, Igbo e.t.c all for free. (A screenshot is on the 2nd page of the link below)

If you're looking for a good Bible app then I suspect you might be lacking some good apps also. Check this link for some quality apps and also feel free to contribute: https://www.nairaland.com/982104/favourite-symbian-3-apps-anna

That reminds me, that link is overdue for an update.

leslieu63: thanks very much it worked, now I have ovistore and maps on my phone thanks.

You're welcome man.