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[quote author=Lil_Marshal]Lumia 900 Was released in the US only and it was very cheap but not the Lumia 800. check Jumia, it costs over 110k even tho it doesn't have nearly as much spec as SG2. SG3 cost 98k. thats smtin we should consider.[/quote]No lumia 800 costs about 62k though I thought it would be around 50k when comparing it with how cheap it was is some parts of the world.

jmaine: It did be great to have that prize range here , but seeing the Purview 808 cost more than that , quells all hope . . . .

The 808 price tire me for what its got. I think the only reason to back it up was Nokia saying the cam stuff was too expensive.

Currently with windows phones, things have changed as MS and Nokia are ready to grow slowly with all the handouts Nokia gets from MS added to the fact that they don't pay royalties to use WP. Also Nokia has moved all manufacturing to Asia. I think all these should affect prices. It may still be priced around 98k just as S3.

Come to think of it, isn't this carrier stuff possible in Nigeria? It makes buying phones a lot easier.

4llerbuntu: at least you are honest enough to extend it to agreeing it was misleading.


anyway, :HINT: i have not made any mention of SGS nor compared it with any fone. you guys are simply hell bent on bringing other fones into this and are the ones doing the comparisons anyway

my reservations simply is don't let the marketing get the better of you.
turns out i was right!!


you know what i find interesting? its that they keep doing this hold it up to the cameras thingy and compare.

for one i think its classless. the tech blogs traditionally do this shyte, not the manufacturer. have you ever seen Apple hold up the iphone to any other phone?

secondly, if i had been the one doing this with an android fone, or any other phone, you would have branded me fanboy, i guess its safe to brand you a WP Fanboy too eh??




pls try to correct this your tagalong dudes, im am so not a fanboy. the reason i let you get away with it is because we have had an history debating android/WP/IOS/any other os in the world. and you know yourself that its not really like that.

the problem is these turds have turned it into a mantra, with absolutely no basis for doing so. even on political thread, na fanboy, android thread sef na still fanboy !!!!
therefore henceforth "i will go thermonuclear" on that lil ish.

miss that dude sha, he had charisma!.

I agree with you on some points but definitely not the comparison part.

In todays world it of no use comparing smartphones without doing a comparison and its the manufacturers that are even behind it cos I don't think someone is going to buy a phone for 90k without thinking its the best.
Take a look at some of these
Nokia - Most innovative smartphone.
Apple- Most advanced smartphone.
Apple- Best app support with over Bleep apps.
These and a whole lot more were statements made by CEOs (esp Jobs) and manufacturers to show their devices were better than the competition.


You can look at it this way: 808 is considered the best camera phone cos its better than the competition in that area. This may not be so in 5 years afterall not to long ago, a 1.3MP cam on a phone was considered a superb innovation. Today its nothing.


So my point is that majority of talk on smartphones today is based on comparison. Afterall apple rose to fame by making people believe iphones were the best.

[quote author=Lil_Marshal]Y'all are all forgetting one thing, ANDROID PHONES ARE CHEAP. check out sg3, it cost 98k and 95k at some stores. WP7.5 phones are darn expensive and we not talking about when WP8 officially launches. Lets not even talk about IPHONES. we are Nigerians.[/quote]I don't think windows phones are generally available in Nigeria apart from the lumia 800 (correct me if I'm wrong)

But the pricing thing is not true cos all over the world, Nokia has been laughed at for underpricing wps just to attract buyers. It even halved its carrier price for lumia 900 after just 3 months and some others were almost free.

I just hope such pricing will come with this when its reaches 9ja. Will be good if its around 80-90k

This may not really pertain to this thread, but since this controversy came up lets just for a minute believe that all the talk about pureview on 920 is just a scam and that the camera is not better than anyother regular cam out there.


It surprising we would see two groups of people-
Group A- Nokia just shot itself in the foot. I really loved it when I saw it. This is the kind of innovation I want to see in flagships. I still look forward to see such tech on a smartphone.

Group B- Hahahaha. Nokia is dead. They can never produce anything good. I knew this was not possible on a lumia device when I saw it. Well I can never use a lumia. XXXX all the way.


I haven't said nothing yet. But it surprises me the way different people can view thesame thing.

4llerbuntu: not really. he is not an obsessed turd, hellbent on making himself heard and talking abt things he does not know





oh really? you dont say!!
nokia announces a phone, nokia does videos showing the phone capabilities in comparison with other phones BUT nokia never said it was taken by the phone?

[size=18pt]BUHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA[/size]

u would absolutely suck as a spokesman

this ranks even higher than "you are holding it wrong"






STOP calling me a fanboy please!

if only your eyes actually sync with your brain you would realise that there is actually truly no basis for that.

i have NEVER argued android vs anything with you before. just because you know i own android phones means?

you idiotically assume every post that does not glorify your fantasies is borne out of beef. how andorid or nokia or anybody sales take concern me? e garri my pocket?


i argued A PHONE hardware. SGS 3 vs Lumia 800 with you once, a most unpalatable experience given the abject dearth of commonsense in your posts

so maybe a more precise thing to say would be samsung fanboy in your case, not android fanboy. which incidentally is not true cuz i can count the number of samsung phones i ever bought. and i have never hyped samsung like a fo.ol like y'all doing with nokia.


you need to divorce emotions,and this desire to"win" every intellectual debate. u end up looking like a f.ool


and as usual, your post has no correlation to the ones before it, does not address the issue, introduces transferred aggression, and generally relies on insults to lend it credence. nigga shut the fook up

Why you dey vex with yourself? That post was not for you.


FYI that video was out before the phone was released and as Nokia has stated, its meant to show the capabilities of pureview 2 as regards OIS. Though I agree it was quite misleading, it takes nothing away from the phones capabilities especially since other comparisons have been done by independent journalists. If you still want to focus on the video, then thats your ish.


Seriously thats the only name that explains what you've been doing on this thread.
A new phone is announced instead of you to appreciate the innovation it brings while also pointing out the cons, you're hellbent on attacking the phone.

LET ME ASK YOU. WHAT DOES THE NUMBER OF GSIII SOLD YOU POSTED HAVE TO DO WITH THIS THREAD??
Go back from page 1 and you would see your stance on this phone shows you are highly uncomfortable with the praises its getting. You would be happier if this phone was being bashed.


Like I've always said, I use my hard earned money to buy a phone so I appreciate good stuff when I see it whether its on Samsung, Nokia, Apple, BB e.t.c as the case may be.


I don't get your ish with that lumia thread. I even said it there that you would e surprised which device I would personally select. My reason not being because one is so low below that a comparison is not worth it.

jmaine: To avoid any back and forth argument . .The statement above is ambiguous to denote so many interpretations, depending on your level of understanding . .

No where in that sentence did it say we produced or simulated this video with the Lumia 920


All Nokia did, was produce/provide a presentation simulating the power of OIS ,that will be deployed/delivered in the Lumia 920 during sales.

offcourse, that part got a lot of people confused, and also gave some nervous fellas like you, something to jerrk your load ceaselessly unto . .




P:S ====> Produce

to bring into existence; give rise to; cause: to produce steam.
2.
to bring into existence by intellectual or creative ability: to produce a great painting.
3.
to make or manufacture: to produce automobiles for export.
4.
to bring forth; give birth to; bear: to produce a litter of puppies.
5.
to provide, furnish, or supply; yield: a mine producing silver.

You're wasting your time explaining to him.

Yes Nokia made a mistake by as the video gives the impression it was shot with the phone. However, nowhere in the video did Nokia say it was taken by the phone.


That video may be controversial but there are plenty other videos taken by independent reviewers and even a new one by Nokia which shows how awesome it is. So I'm still wondering why some people are fixed on that video. Just a single word...fanboys

4llerbuntu: i take it you have used one?

or you are basing your "how good it is" on guesswork, screenshots and media press releases?


btw how come this ones comes with 1GB RAM and 1.5Ghz S4 processors? i thought the specs were not important.

i also thought it was only android manufacturers that "stuupidlly" increase specs and RAM, afterall what do u want to do with 1 GB RAM on WP?

keep revising your arguments to suit the current situation.

[size=4pt]i shld receive a medal for trolling [/size]

I haven't used one but I appreciate the innovation it represents unlike you who never sees anything good outside android. The last time it was 121 reasons not to buy a lumia now its this. How pathetic!

Let me ask you WHAT WOULD YOUR OPINION BE IF THIS WAS ON GSIII?? You would have been screaming most advanced phone ever.

I have never said specs are not important. I simply said they are not worth the paper they're written on if they cannot be transferred to a real life experience. You on the other always thinks more is better which in some cases is not true not be true.

If I was a blind follower of processor specs, then I would be jumping ship every 2-3 months as GSIII is already outdated specwise


As regards the current specs all I can say is that if lumia 900 with much lower specs stood its ground against high-end droids in terms of UI smoothness and speed, I can only wonder what this would do to them

4llerbuntu: one thing tho, whosoever coordinated the media and publicity for dis announcement deserves a big bonus and a medal. great job.

its not easy to get intelligent pple to wet their knickers over a product that essentially does not really exist yet or rather is not available for purchase anytime soon.

all we have are press shots and hype media from journos with a job to do for microkia. i daresay some of those shots are rigged.

but this is supposed to be better than the already available in our hands competition.



dont get me wrong, it could indeed be better, seeing that the competition were announced and started selling months ago( an age in tech). would be a shame if it didnt.

cool down, apples next. EYEFONE 5. the fanboys are ready to pre-order.

JUNGLE DON DEY MATURE.

at least we know iphones will be available for purchase iwithin weeks of announcement!!!

I'm worried why you're so particular about the release date. Afterall you said you're never going to use a lumia device. That should interest people who want the phone.


It should be available in Q4 but even if I take the worst possible scenario of it being available on 31 Dec, its takes nothing away from the true innovation this phone presents.

Finally its good that of all things to attack the phone on, the release date is the most viable option for you. That alone should show you how good the phone is.

@temmy

SCREEN

Now let me give you a lecture cos you just exposed you ignorance.
But before I start let me make some stuff clear
- You should go back and check the difference between SuperAMOLED and AMOLED and see their differences in usage.
-Also tell me why the screen on htc one x is considered better than the superAMOLED on s3
-AND MOST IMPORTANTLY TELL ME WHY THE BEST SCREEN ON A PHONE NOW IS ON THE LUMIA 920 WHICH IS STILL LCD.

You need to know that AMOLED mainly affects one area of screen technology which is contrast and also brings alot of disadvantages. OEMs have found other means of getting good contrast on other LCDs thereby eliminating the cons of AMOLED.

Apart from contrast, there are a million other ways of affecting screen performance.

I never said I prefer TFT to AMOLED But I said I prefer the screen on 701 to that of N8. Just in thesame way 920 with LCD has a much better screen than superAMOLED on s3.
Just like I've always said this decision is based on my usage which I've proved so whether you believe it or not is inconsequential cos to you anybody that tries to show you the light has never used N8. How pathetic

AND remember I always give proof not depending on some delusional stuff than cannot be proven anywhere. Go back and take a look at those screen shots posted.

@Temmy

Man you're getting annoying.
Just show me a single place where the op used N8 and I would do as I've said. If you can't, remain silent.
I posted my opinion on the first page just like I've done severally but you came and attacked me saying TFTs are trash forgetting that much better phones still use TFTs and that 701 has a better screen even than N8.

Like I've always said this is a comparison and 701 doesn't only look better but has better specs.


C: and E: are not just partitions. Why do u even think they were divided in the first place? Do you think its just to display alphabets? Mind you you cant change the cache for everything to E. Even while using a CFW some must still be on C:
But even if what you said is true, its senseless to go through all that just to get 146 mb when I can get 400mb and never worry about running out of memory. Like I've always said installing a CFW on a 701 phone is not worth it in anyway.


You can spare your misinformation about firmwares to your ignorant folk. Remember I'm still waiting for a link to belle fp1 for n8 on navifirm. Or have you forgotten??
So you expect any sensible person to rely on downloading the whole firmware from Navifirm or through PC suite when I can easily get the additions through an OTA update.
The hassles of Navifirm and phoenix should be left to you who has to use it to get a decent smartphone experience.
Man go back and check those your 175mb CFW and you would see they are not complete as you would have to add the remaining from the OFW. I've used a complete CFW and it was about 300mb. Now add the OFW and phoenix and you get the 800MB.


When I talk of bugs I'm not talking of trash. I'm talking of excessive battery drainage, too frequent restarts, wifi or Bluetooth on longer working, flash no longer working e.t.c. For me it was my excessive heating up and restarts and battery not lasting above 6 hours (and please don't mention battery saving patches) which a whole lot of people were also experiencing. Although the guy later updated the stuff but by then I had seen it was a total waste of time.

You should have known by by now that I'm someone who goes beyond the hype.
Its pathetic if your purpose of flashing with a CFW was to achieve those things as they can either be achieved without it or are utterly useless.
Like I said, the only useful thing I saw in a CFW was the ability for the phone to remain hacked even with a hard reset.
IF YOU STILL THINK THERE ARE STILL OTHER USEFUL ADVANTAGES, THEN BRING THEM ON BUT PLEASE DO YOUR RESEARCH BEFORE DOING THAT COS YOU'RE CLEARLY LACKING IN THAT AREA.


You said that you did not own the phone was the reason why you mistook the location of the audio out. Was that also the reason why your little experiment regarding the battery life and fm transmitter has only been experienced by you??
Man stop this trash the fact is that you have never used a 701. You should start by getting to use one first.

What I said is that I consider N8 too laggy a device for me to use in 2012. If you think its smooth for you then thats
pathetic cos you definitely haven't used anything better as you claim.

I'm really liking this pureview stuff.
Just saw a really really amazing video of the stabilization thingy and all I can say is WOW!!!
http://m.youtube.com/watch?list=UL&feature=channel&v=moJ9T5pgKkA&desktop_uri=%2Fwatch%3Fv%3DmoJ9T5pgKkA%26feature%3Dchannel%26list%3DUL&gl=US

Then the low light performance is another way I'm left wondering how Nokia managed to achieve this. It performs much better in low light with led flash than some xenon flash cams e.g N8

Again take a look at this pic comparing it to iphone 4s in a low light snap. Can't even see anything on the iphones screen.
http://www.anandtech.com/show/6236/hands-on-with-the-nokia-lumia-920-lumia-820
http://blog.laptopmag.com/nokia-lumia-920-first-impressions-pureview-camera-raises-the-bar-for-smartphones

I must confess that I'm really impressed with what Nokia put forward considering the little time they had at their disposal.
To be honest, I wasn't expecting anything major until MWC in 2013. But well this is Nokia.
I know its early but I'm beginning to look forward to the real WP8 device they would release then. Something that would be to WP8 what lumia 900 was to WP7.5. Maybe a combination of Pureview 1 and Pureview 2 with a totally new design.

texazzpete: Motorola announced a phone everyone knew was coming. It'll stand not chance against the Galaxy S III.

Yea I know but their 'the days main event' IV was just trying to get at Nokia. Also the location is quite close.
Seems they didn't get the press coverage they needed.

Just read that Nokia is transporting reporters in a Nokia branded bus with Nokia T-shirts from the Nokia event to the motorolla one.
Nokia is now learning some bad stuff o

starme high: point of collection this is nokia belle not symbian belle, nokia is leaving symbian not belle. So by 2016 I would wonder wat Kind of features that will be improved on belle os

I really hope what you said is true but from all indications I don't think so.
Nokia is putting all effort into lumia now and symbian is not helping matters with seriously declining sales.

Take a look at the ongoing Nokia world. There has been on talk on symbian yet.

And just to clarify something, its still symbian. Its the UI that is called Belle. Just like windows phone and the Metro UI

4llerbuntu: "PureView" was the combination of the 41MP sensor, the custom Image Processor, the pixel binning to 8MP and digital zoom.

If this comes with an 8MP sensor, what are they pixel-binning or zooming to? Quarter-VGA?

PureView is now a marketing term it seems.

i wonder what goat that was arguing that the 404 or whatever its called was a good buy at 95k will say about this phone.

guess they will retail it to y'all for 200k

You again and your annoying obsession for specs you can't understand.
Good to see that you went to read up about 808 after you made me to stop giving you free lectures by your annoying posts.

For starters-

1. Pureview is not limited to what you find on 808 but represents any advanced camera tech on a Nokia phone.

2. What we saw on 808 was Pureview 1. This is Pureview 2 and they both significantly improve different aspects of the camera.

4. From current indications, this phone might have the 2nd best camera currently.

3. And like I've always told you good images do not necessarily depend on the pixel count. Even Nokia has said that severally. Look at this
"You may have seen that despite the super high resolution sensor of the Nokia 808 PureView, we’ve been going to great lengths to communicate that despite the staggering number of pixels, it’s not about the
NUMBER of pixels but HOW YOU USE THEM. This message is just as relevant in the context of this 2nd phase of PureView development."

You can check this out for further explanation http://mynokiablog.com/2012/09/05/pureview-white-paper-2-released-lumia-920-version/

I don't expect much from a fanboy. YOU'VE PROVEN IT OVER AND AGAIN THAT ONCE ONE LEAVES ANDROID YOU BECOME BLANK. I still don't get why you still keep posting ignorant statements about 'inferior (non-android) OSes you know nothing of.

I hate the fact that I'm very busy this week and wouldn't have the time to for this till at least Saturday.
Just went through the days events and it really lived up to the hype.
BTW I thought motorolla was holding 'the days main event'. Can't see nothing on it. Haha

Danka7777: Reading all these comments, I think we have a long way to go in understanding the global and regional politics and few people that control this world. Don't be surprised; of course, I wouldn't be if she (Deizani Madueke) is diagnosed with cancer in few months. She has stepped on the toes of many international oil companies that have interest in Nigeria's oil and they are out to get her out of the way and permanently if it means. You guys think cancer and Aids are mysterious ailments; we have a long way to go in massive re-education of Nigerians. These ailments were invented in the laboratories and for cancer there are radiation-type technology that can get you infected with cancer. You guys think the death of Yara'Adua was God's willing, the death of Atta of Ghana was God's Willing, the death of Meles Zenawi of Ethiopia was God's willing? All passed away, rather rapidly under mysterious illnesses. Why are we so gullible?

Hahahahahaha
This is the result of watching too much movies. You believe anything you cannot understand is organized by someone.
I hope you know that not to long ago ailments like sickle cell anaemia, malaria, seizures and anything Africans couldn't understand we're attributed to the gods.

Did you just say cancer was invented in the lab? You really have a long way to go.
Also, cancer is not an infection.
You should go and read about Yara'Aduas ailment and you would see that he did quite well. Alot of people with that ailment die in a much shorter period.

2mch: Look liar, stop waiting for me to log out before you post. I said show me proof here of a fully televised FEC meeting by Channels tv as claimed. Not highlights. You are not very good at your job. I will also never degrade myself to be a lickspittle like you. It doesn't even understand. Come can you read or write? Well the quality of our govt tells it all about its hirelings.

I don't get it. Are you trying to say that FEC meetings do not hold and that media houses are just called and given a video to air
But its very easy for you to believe when an online newspaper with a proven history of giving false news reports that their 'sources' had privy information to the medical record of a woman being treated in the UK.

Since you like to believe anything anti-Jonathan no matter the source, let me give you some.
My sources just reported that Jonathan just slapped Abati two times on the head.
Another source also reported that Patience sent her private bodyguard to beat up Alison in the hospital and that she is now in coma.
A very reliable source also reported that Jonathan has gone secretly to beg Buhari to call BH to order also promising him the presidential slot in 2015.

Are you now satisfied? If you still need more, I can still contact my sources for more.

loyet: [b][/b][color=#990000][/color]@ TEMMY.M3 AND JEDISCO OR ANY OTHER PERSON THAT KNOWS IT SHOULD PLS DIRECT ME ON HOW TO CONNECT MY E7 SO THAT THE 2GO AND THE FACEBOOK I DOWNLOADED ON IT WILL BE CONNECTING. IT KEEP TELLING ME CONNECTING UNAVAILABLE.I HAVE SAVED THE SETTINGS FROM MTN STILL.

First can you browse with your phone browser? Or is it only limited to 2go and the official Facebook app (which are java apps)

If its happening to every app then you should check the drop down notification bar and make sure mobile data is on.
If it still continues, then go to settings>connectivity>settings>network destinations and delete all access points there (whether under internet, wap services or others).
Then save the access points (from the sms) again and when saving, accept them as default. Then go back to settings and make sure there is an access point under both internet and wap services. If there is none, move one there.


But if it only occurs with 2go and fb app (which I suspect) then after doing the above, go to settings>installations>already installed> then long press 2go and under suite settings change the network connection to default.
I believe these should work for you.

Also, I think some apps like gravity and fmobi are much better for fb than the official java app.

loyet: [b][/b][color=#990000][/color]@ TEMMY.M3 AND JEDISCO OR ANY OTHER PERSON THAT KNOWS IT SHOULD PLS DIRECT ME ON HOW TO CONNECT MY E7 SO THAT THE 2GO AND THE FACEBOOK I DOWNLOADED ON IT WILL BE CONNECTING. IT KEEP TELLING ME CONNECTING UNAVAILABLE.I HAVE SAVED THE SETTINGS FROM MTN STILL.

First can you browse with your phone browser? Or is it only limited to 2go and the official Facebook app (which are java apps)

If its happening to every app then you should check the drop down notification bar and make sure mobile data is on.
If it still continues, then go to settings>connectivity>settings>network destinations and delete all access points there (whether under internet, wap services or others).
Then save the access points (from the sms) again and when saving, accept them as default. Then go back to settings and make sure there is an access point under both internet and wap services. If there is none, move one there.


But if it only occurs with 2go and fb app (which I suspect) then after doing the above, go to settings>installations>already installed> then long press 2go and under suite settings change the network connection to default.
I believe these should work for you.

Also, I think some apps like gravity and fmobi are much better for fb than the official java app.

[quote author=temmy.m3]*I said this a million and one times, just because u dont use a feature doesnt mean others dont. u prefer a very bright dual led flash to an FM radio, hear urself out, when other phones are even Having Xenon flash.. Chineke meh! Oluwa o!!



Lol. Bro this is why I say u need som practicals. There is a big difference between porting an OS meant for anoda device and downloading a LEAKED OS for your own device. When nokia are done with making a firmware but hasnt decided a date for its release & it appears on Navifirm. This is termed LEAK! now use ur IQ to differenciate that between porting a difference OS over another. I dont blame u as well, your first OS update was FP1, just 40mb, otherwise u should know Upgrading from one OS to the other means downloading a huge data. The only difference is Nokia suite is automatic while flashing is manual, they use dsame huge downloaded firmware data. At least The manual one comes in a zip achive so u download less amount of data when u do it manually. U need to be flogged makin dat statement with your said experience concernin smartphones U are more of a basic user who claims to know all just because he reads so much blogs without even puttin dem to practise. Quote me wrong, YOU HAVE NEVER USED A CFW SO WHY THE LIES?, u dont even have the balls to do it, be sincere.

*fighting SNIPERWOLF over N8 & RAM being laggy makes me laugh more cos u seem desperate. I think i said this previously that N8 isnt as laggy as u wanna believe. i did use 701 for few months before letting it go for another phone now, As a computer sc. I focused on Programmin,at least i should know somethin about RAM at least abi?? now why didnt i let go of the N8 instead if it lags so much compared to 701?? so Cool ur Restless A** down Uncle Jedi

Just because someone referred to this thread as a link for another person during an arguement doesnt mean it could serve as a good point like a picture, video or personal test. Just try puttin more of this things into practise before arguement kk. One luv, Uncle Jedi-701! [/quote]The fact is that you revel in ignorance.
All the CFWs that have belle fp1 UI (before the release of refresh) did that by porting them over from the OFW of supported devices (701, 700 and 603)

SHOW ME A SINGLE WAY THAT I CAN DOWNLOAD BELLE FP1 FOR N8 AND OLD DEVICES FROM NAVIFIRM AND I WILL DELETE MY NAIRALAND USERNAME.

You're clearly ignorant of what you claim to know. Navifirm only releases the supported OFWs for a device. Trying to modify a higher version to work on a lower phone through the use of CFWs is what I call porting.

For what you're referring to as 'leak' this occurs when aspects of an unreleased firmware are leaked out (maybe if they briefly appear on navifirm or through whatever means). They are now ported over to existing devices.

The thing with me is that I don't use stuff in phantom. But whether you want to believe I've used a CFW or not is of no use to this.


Like I said, if the 701 you used had the characteristics you put above then its definitely not thesame phone I'm using. Atleast my audio out is not by the side.
Even 808 and 701 with top hardware for symbian cannot be described and being smoother than highend droids, iphone 4s or lumia 900.
So for a symbian device with 256mb ram and 687MHz processor to be described as being smooth means you've not used something better.

To prove my point like I've always done, here is a quote from this link. ( http://www.allaboutsymbian.com/features/item/14959_Nokia_701_vs_N8_Torpedo_vs_Gui.php )
"Whereas the N8 will be picked for its
camera, the 701 is a monster by Symbian
standards. To put it into perspective, the clunky
WRT-based Nokia Social loads from scratch in 3
seconds, Web loads in one second and All About Symbian loads in under ten seconds (c.f. 18
seconds on the N8). Effectively, everything on the
701 is almost twice as fast. Moving around the UI,
you get the feeling that if you could turn theme
effects off (you can't!) then everything would just
be 'instant'. The extra system RAM and GPU RAM make a
difference too, in edge cases where you're dealing
with a heavyweight game, heavy web pages or
manipulating large images. There's certainly no
question of running out of memory"

Mind you, nothing stops me from saying that I've used every smartphone in the world. Afterall, it can't be proved. POST WHAT YOU CAN PROVE.

Let me deal with the screen issue decisively.
The fact is that you use phantom devices and come and spew lies about their performance forgetting that there are millions of users around the world. (remember when you said the audio out of your 701 was on the left, or that N8 has better battery life based on your experiment or that the fm transmitter of your 701 works for only less than 1m while that of N8 works for several metres. Curiously, just like this screen issue, you're the only one experiencing it.)


Facts
- N8 and C7 used AMOLED screens which offer better contrast.
- 701 has Nokia CBD which offers much better outdoor viewing and also aids the contrast when compared to other TFTs.
- 701 has the brightest screen on a smartphone.
- IPS TFT screens consume much less than AMOLEDs on white pages which gives better battery life especially when browsing.

Like I always do, I GIVE LINKS to prove my point which also come with users opinion.
This is a 1min 30 secs video comparing the two. Mind you it was done indoors where the AMOLEDs should have an advantage.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q9S4lwAnHrE&desktop_uri=%2Fwatch%3Fv%3DQ9S4lwAnHrE&gl=US
These are some screen shots from the video (I'm still wondering why they look so different from your phantom device)

The last is an outdoor screenshot where 701 still gives a good they cos of the CBD whereas C7 has made itself a mirror
N.B C7 is on the left in all pics

To further clear your doubts, look up other comparisons and videos that abound online. I've put up some which come with users opinion for u to check out.
http://www.allaboutsymbian.com/features/item/13649_IPS_TFT_versus_AMOLED_Nokia_70.php

http://mynokiablog.com/2011/09/24/videos-nokia-c7-vs-nokia-701-ips-lcd-cb-vs-amoled/

http://lazure2./2011/12/18/the-leading-clearblack-display-technology-from-nokia/

FROM THE ABOVE, I CAN SAY THAT I WOULD TAKE THE SCREEN ON 701 OVER THAT ON N8 OR C7.

[quote author=temmy.m3]@JEDISCO
hmmm, dunno what you really gain from repeatin yourself almost at every post. I Think i what i was explainin in detail concerning those 3 phones the poster requested, just because i mentioned Amoled's uniqueness to a TFT, u got upset, starting a fresh competition between N8 & 701. Can u give me one reason why this kinda arguement really needs to resurface? Nah Wah o!
U dont have to get yourself worked up man, ur latest posts really was more funnier than the first & here i could see u dont seem to understand some stuffs too. Don't worry i ll explain,


* dunno abt N86 & U have your reasons for regretting ever Using it, but surely it's not because of the screen so don't blame ur loss over an innocent screen.lol. Anyone has his/her choice of moving from different phones so ur moving from android, c7, 701, whateva is ur choice & none of my biz

*"ANY ADVANTAGE OLED has over TFT is taken care of by CBD lol. Are u kidding? Or u dont know what ClearBlack Display means? surely ur friend never has any C7 as u claimed.. That is why u dont know the visual difference between TFT & OLed.

* Dont get me wrong when i said u need to Test out some phones in order to know how far they could go. U can't judge how much u know a gadget with just reading blogs & Theories online without some real practical aspects. thats why u dont know the differences between screens & claiming CBD takes care of TFT's flaws

*The User Mentioned C7,E7 & N7 right? Tell me, what is N7 any smart individual should know what the user meant by N7.. Dnt cover it up bro, or hav u forgotten what u posted above at first? check it out...




*I dunno why u keep sayin N8 is ugly. if it looks that bad, then why do people keeps buying it without hiddin their ugly device in public.just because u dont fancy the design, does it really mean others don't? this is really senseless. haba

*Bro, Seems u dont really understand this Memory thin isuue. Let me try & Explain.
C: & E: are both phone memory, just a partition. 701 has 8gb on board memory, this 8gb is partitioned/Divided into 4 drives, C: (UDA) D: (RAM/Data management) E: (Mass Memory) ( Z: (ROFS/Flash Memory) . each of these drive partitions shares the same 8GB on the circuit board, C: & E: are the 2 user available storage partition, On 701, C: has 400mb disk space & E: has 6.3GB... while N8 has 250mb & 14.7GB on C: & E: respectively. Now use ur intelligence, Why should an N8 user who has 14.7GB space on E: worry about 250MB on C:? Unlike u, a 701 user who isnt so Happy using up ur 6.3GB and decided to impose anger on C: memory .
And again, only a Novice asks how to increase a C: memory, If u have really used a CFW, then u should know ALL NOKIA PREINSTALLED APPS GOES TO "C:" That is why u normally have almost half of the C: memory used up. This is why A new N8 originally has 125Mb free of 250mb memory on C: .. This only applies to Original Nokia firmwares cos on Custom Firmwares, U have about 210MB+ free space on N8 cos all preinstalled apps like (Maps, Social etc) have been moved to Z: which leaves more space on C:.. about 210+ Mb or more free space ! I believe CFW users can testify to that (CFW users where una dey, come testify o abeg.
I have nothing really on C: except for my antivirus, i only decided to put the leaked Nokia maps suite of 808 (about 53MB) on my C: so it wont just be useless, that drops my C: to 147MB from previous 201MB free (I ll gladly provide u screenshots if u want one ). This post really shows how much u really know nothing about CFWs as well as Memory divisions, at least now that u know why N8 default C: is 125Mb & How to get it up to 210MB, u can go reply those answering questions regarding how to increase their C:

UPGRADEABILITY.. As a matter of fact uncle, i dont joke, i cant remember the last time I used an Original firmware from Nokia except when i just wanna see its changelogs. Anna, Belle, Belle Fp1.. it has always been appearing on Navifirm, Google that if u dont know what it means. Spend 1 week with a cool CFW & tell me if u wanna go back to the original. I cant believe u, of all people could say CFW are unstable, with your rate of reading blogs.lol. this is why i say, Try Some Practical aspects of this stuffs beore u argue. there are so many makers of CFW, these guys makes this stuffs just for their own taste, u might use it & dislike it and say Hey! It is unstable, but why not make one urself to suit ur taste (at least a lil bit of software programmin and codin could help). U dont Use a CFW & u wanna compete with Android users.. Interesting

*Now how does the picture looks Fake? Or is that not an N8 & your so called 701 screen with its maximum brightness abi u tie cloth for face? .. Which is more convincing? The comments people wrote on a blog or the Picture taken to indicate what is on discussion? Dont't fight it bro, u sound funnier when trying to argue with the picture. lol. not your first time though, i remember our discussion previously when i pasted A pic concernin N8 camera and Spiinin Fans and u refused to believe, not until some users testified with their own screenshots...so am not surprised. [/quote]At first I didn't want to reply you cos you began to sound childish but since the thread re-surfaced, let me give u a reply.


* The op was simply asking for advice on symbian phones. Show me where he mentioned N8 and I would delete all my posts on this thread.

* I will discuss the screen issue in my next post.

* I think you've forgotten that we're doing a comparison here and N8 remains the more ugly of the two. Its plain naive to say that any symbian phone is currently selling in sizeable numbers.

* Memory issue- I don't know why you put up all that stuff.
Everybody knows that the internal memory on both devices. But what I'm saying is how that memory is partitioned.
The Z: is irrelevant for this.
E: Although internal is mainly user and can be effectively supplemented for all uses by a memory card.
The issue is with C: I don't know what Nokia was thinking but to me its senseless to put 16GB on a device and just allot 256mb (125mb actually) to C: so users can easily run out of memory.

The C: memory is used by many apps esp Nokia apps for cache and other stuff.
Like I said, I had over 400mb when I bought my device but now its just over 100. I'm still wondering what I would havn done with 125mb.

So to circumvent this problem, you come up with the issue of soon CFW moving system apps to Z: which is the major reason why most of the CFWs with this feature have more bugs than advantages. But even after that you still have just over 200mb which is grossly inadequate than what I need. Mind you 701 also has CFWs that can give almost 600mb on C:
Its no brainer which is better.

* Upgradeability-
It seems you have decided not to see the truth.
Let me put things in perspective. Nokia belle was released with 701 last September, it wasn't until this year that it came to older devices which was just before the release of fp1 on 701. Last week older devices just got Belle refresh a trimmed down version of fp1. Funny enough, fp2 should be out this week or next which older devices are not going to get. So the only way of filling the gap for you guys is to resort to CFWs.

The fact is that you forget that the sole purpose of CFWs for older devices is to try and bring the feel of newer devices to them and also put some tweaks.

Now to the tiresome issue of flashing using a CFW. First you've got to download navifirm, phoenix and d rest. Then you download the OFW (as its senseless to try a CFW without having it). Then you download the CFW (where you have to download almost the whole firmware for those that move apps to Z. These all come up to over 800mb.
As if that is not enough, there is a very long and complex process ( http://forum.symbian-developers.net/flashing-tutorials-(updating-and-downgrading)/(tutorial)-flashing-c7e6e7x7c6-01-to-nokia-belle/ ) coupled with the certainty of bugs after the process, the risk of ending up with a bricked device and the fact that once you start using it, you most likely would need it for further upgrades.

Take a look at your beloved xeon and see the bugs associated with it http://forum.dailymobile.net/index.php?topic=74870.0

So like I said, the issue of CFW on recent symbian handsets is senseless as there is absolutely nothing that I cannot get without flashing. Its only appeals to u so you can keep up with the pace.

SO SINCE YOU BELIEVE I'VE NOT USED A CFW, JUST LIST THOSE WONDERFUL THINGS I WOULD GET USING ANYONE THAT I CANNOT GET WITHOUT IT.

THE ISSUE OF CFW WILL ONLY BECOME USEFUL WHEN MY PHONE BECOMES TOO OLD TO MOVE WITH THE CURRENT VERSION OF SYMBIAN. For now its mainly for you guys.

Also why not try mentioning most of those your wonderful CFWs and I will show you atleast 20 pages mostly filled with user complaints.

Brainrex: First download opera7.sis
then goto phone settings
change your ip to: 195.189.142.132
Port: 80
enjoy

Kudos man! Its working though I was beginning to get used to ucweb which is much faster but does not show complete pages for some sites

nanotechy: plenty tanx

You're welcome

[quote author=x-marcel]Please what is the current price for Nokia 701[/quote]The last time I checked, it was #42,500 on slot

@OP There is a thread by a galaxy pocket user on the phones page https://www.nairaland.com/1032188/galaxy-pocket-wahala complaining about a very common problem on android which is data consumption.

You can ask her about other issues regarding that phone like battery life e.t.c but you've got to be careful cos she may not have used something better and would think what she has is excellent.

nanotechy: so what do u think about d galaxy pocket someone suggested earlier?i'v never really liked samsung but i don't mind getting it for her if it's worth its salt

Galaxy pocket is an android phone while Nokia 500 is symbian. Although 500 is more expensive, they are both low-end smart phones.

The fact is that android is a resource hungry OS and the experience you get with low speced android phones (especially in the area of UI smoothness and battery life) is not too good when compared to symbian with similar specs which is more resource efficient.

Also being a low end phone, it basically won't do some advanced stuff irrespective of the OS. So if you go with the android hype and buy a low speced one, you would be very disappointed just like most android users who come here to complain.

That said, the 500 is better speced in almost all areas I consider important e.g screen size resolution and pixel density, battery life, processor speed, camera, and being a Nokia phone durability and strength should not be a problem.

You can get a basic comparison here (although you should be careful how you interpret these comparisons as it should be in accordance with your needs and understanding what those specs mean) http://geekaphone.com/compare/Samsung-Galaxy-Pocket-vs-Nokia-500

nanotechy: Greetings great nairalanders! My lil niece needs a nokia phone urgently and i have an unquenchable hatred 4 .jar phones. Please guys, i wana know d cheapest recent symbian phone i can get for her (d phone shouldnt be more than 1.5yrs old). She's on my neck guys, help a brother. I'l appreciate it if u include prices. Thanks people, i'm counting on you.

The only phone that fits your description is Nokia 500 as its the only recent symbian phone running symbian belle and I think it was released September last year

aze: CORRECT, am on ma 2nd 1gb 4 nw. Want 2 test stormy waters soon with a 4gb 24hr-30days plan

How much is that one?

@topic I think I'm beginning to enjoy uc web browser just that I'm missing all my saved pages and bookmarks

[quote author=Rhino.5dm]very easy! Load 1200, send a massage to 440 with the following *440*4# and wait for a few seconds.


Their system will active a BB data plan with 1 gigabytes, confusing you with a BB subscriber.




Downside: You can only activate this plan once in a month, just like any other BB owner.[/quote]You can use it more than once a month by deactivating it when your data runs out.

You send deactivate to 440 and now subscribe again.