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I must confess that I'm really impressed with what Nokia put forward considering the little time they had at their disposal.
To be honest, I wasn't expecting anything major until MWC in 2013. But well this is Nokia.
I know its early but I'm beginning to look forward to the real WP8 device they would release then. Something that would be to WP8 what lumia 900 was to WP7.5. Maybe a combination of Pureview 1 and Pureview 2 with a totally new design.

texazzpete: Motorola announced a phone everyone knew was coming. It'll stand not chance against the Galaxy S III.

Yea I know but their 'the days main event' IV was just trying to get at Nokia. Also the location is quite close.
Seems they didn't get the press coverage they needed.

Just read that Nokia is transporting reporters in a Nokia branded bus with Nokia T-shirts from the Nokia event to the motorolla one.
Nokia is now learning some bad stuff o

starme high: point of collection this is nokia belle not symbian belle, nokia is leaving symbian not belle. So by 2016 I would wonder wat Kind of features that will be improved on belle os

I really hope what you said is true but from all indications I don't think so.
Nokia is putting all effort into lumia now and symbian is not helping matters with seriously declining sales.

Take a look at the ongoing Nokia world. There has been on talk on symbian yet.

And just to clarify something, its still symbian. Its the UI that is called Belle. Just like windows phone and the Metro UI

4llerbuntu: "PureView" was the combination of the 41MP sensor, the custom Image Processor, the pixel binning to 8MP and digital zoom.

If this comes with an 8MP sensor, what are they pixel-binning or zooming to? Quarter-VGA?

PureView is now a marketing term it seems.

i wonder what goat that was arguing that the 404 or whatever its called was a good buy at 95k will say about this phone.

guess they will retail it to y'all for 200k

You again and your annoying obsession for specs you can't understand.
Good to see that you went to read up about 808 after you made me to stop giving you free lectures by your annoying posts.

For starters-

1. Pureview is not limited to what you find on 808 but represents any advanced camera tech on a Nokia phone.

2. What we saw on 808 was Pureview 1. This is Pureview 2 and they both significantly improve different aspects of the camera.

4. From current indications, this phone might have the 2nd best camera currently.

3. And like I've always told you good images do not necessarily depend on the pixel count. Even Nokia has said that severally. Look at this
"You may have seen that despite the super high resolution sensor of the Nokia 808 PureView, we’ve been going to great lengths to communicate that despite the staggering number of pixels, it’s not about the
NUMBER of pixels but HOW YOU USE THEM. This message is just as relevant in the context of this 2nd phase of PureView development."

You can check this out for further explanation http://mynokiablog.com/2012/09/05/pureview-white-paper-2-released-lumia-920-version/

I don't expect much from a fanboy. YOU'VE PROVEN IT OVER AND AGAIN THAT ONCE ONE LEAVES ANDROID YOU BECOME BLANK. I still don't get why you still keep posting ignorant statements about 'inferior (non-android) OSes you know nothing of.

I hate the fact that I'm very busy this week and wouldn't have the time to for this till at least Saturday.
Just went through the days events and it really lived up to the hype.
BTW I thought motorolla was holding 'the days main event'. Can't see nothing on it. Haha

Danka7777: Reading all these comments, I think we have a long way to go in understanding the global and regional politics and few people that control this world. Don't be surprised; of course, I wouldn't be if she (Deizani Madueke) is diagnosed with cancer in few months. She has stepped on the toes of many international oil companies that have interest in Nigeria's oil and they are out to get her out of the way and permanently if it means. You guys think cancer and Aids are mysterious ailments; we have a long way to go in massive re-education of Nigerians. These ailments were invented in the laboratories and for cancer there are radiation-type technology that can get you infected with cancer. You guys think the death of Yara'Adua was God's willing, the death of Atta of Ghana was God's Willing, the death of Meles Zenawi of Ethiopia was God's willing? All passed away, rather rapidly under mysterious illnesses. Why are we so gullible?

Hahahahahaha
This is the result of watching too much movies. You believe anything you cannot understand is organized by someone.
I hope you know that not to long ago ailments like sickle cell anaemia, malaria, seizures and anything Africans couldn't understand we're attributed to the gods.

Did you just say cancer was invented in the lab? You really have a long way to go.
Also, cancer is not an infection.
You should go and read about Yara'Aduas ailment and you would see that he did quite well. Alot of people with that ailment die in a much shorter period.

2mch: Look liar, stop waiting for me to log out before you post. I said show me proof here of a fully televised FEC meeting by Channels tv as claimed. Not highlights. You are not very good at your job. I will also never degrade myself to be a lickspittle like you. It doesn't even understand. Come can you read or write? Well the quality of our govt tells it all about its hirelings.

I don't get it. Are you trying to say that FEC meetings do not hold and that media houses are just called and given a video to air
But its very easy for you to believe when an online newspaper with a proven history of giving false news reports that their 'sources' had privy information to the medical record of a woman being treated in the UK.

Since you like to believe anything anti-Jonathan no matter the source, let me give you some.
My sources just reported that Jonathan just slapped Abati two times on the head.
Another source also reported that Patience sent her private bodyguard to beat up Alison in the hospital and that she is now in coma.
A very reliable source also reported that Jonathan has gone secretly to beg Buhari to call BH to order also promising him the presidential slot in 2015.

Are you now satisfied? If you still need more, I can still contact my sources for more.

loyet: [b][/b][color=#990000][/color]@ TEMMY.M3 AND JEDISCO OR ANY OTHER PERSON THAT KNOWS IT SHOULD PLS DIRECT ME ON HOW TO CONNECT MY E7 SO THAT THE 2GO AND THE FACEBOOK I DOWNLOADED ON IT WILL BE CONNECTING. IT KEEP TELLING ME CONNECTING UNAVAILABLE.I HAVE SAVED THE SETTINGS FROM MTN STILL.

First can you browse with your phone browser? Or is it only limited to 2go and the official Facebook app (which are java apps)

If its happening to every app then you should check the drop down notification bar and make sure mobile data is on.
If it still continues, then go to settings>connectivity>settings>network destinations and delete all access points there (whether under internet, wap services or others).
Then save the access points (from the sms) again and when saving, accept them as default. Then go back to settings and make sure there is an access point under both internet and wap services. If there is none, move one there.


But if it only occurs with 2go and fb app (which I suspect) then after doing the above, go to settings>installations>already installed> then long press 2go and under suite settings change the network connection to default.
I believe these should work for you.

Also, I think some apps like gravity and fmobi are much better for fb than the official java app.

loyet: [b][/b][color=#990000][/color]@ TEMMY.M3 AND JEDISCO OR ANY OTHER PERSON THAT KNOWS IT SHOULD PLS DIRECT ME ON HOW TO CONNECT MY E7 SO THAT THE 2GO AND THE FACEBOOK I DOWNLOADED ON IT WILL BE CONNECTING. IT KEEP TELLING ME CONNECTING UNAVAILABLE.I HAVE SAVED THE SETTINGS FROM MTN STILL.

First can you browse with your phone browser? Or is it only limited to 2go and the official Facebook app (which are java apps)

If its happening to every app then you should check the drop down notification bar and make sure mobile data is on.
If it still continues, then go to settings>connectivity>settings>network destinations and delete all access points there (whether under internet, wap services or others).
Then save the access points (from the sms) again and when saving, accept them as default. Then go back to settings and make sure there is an access point under both internet and wap services. If there is none, move one there.


But if it only occurs with 2go and fb app (which I suspect) then after doing the above, go to settings>installations>already installed> then long press 2go and under suite settings change the network connection to default.
I believe these should work for you.

Also, I think some apps like gravity and fmobi are much better for fb than the official java app.

temmy.m3:
*I said this a million and one times, just because u dont use a feature doesnt mean others dont. u prefer a very bright dual led flash to an FM radio, hear urself out, when other phones are even Having Xenon flash.. Chineke meh! Oluwa o!!



Lol. Bro this is why I say u need som practicals. There is a big difference between porting an OS meant for anoda device and downloading a LEAKED OS for your own device. When nokia are done with making a firmware but hasnt decided a date for its release & it appears on Navifirm. This is termed LEAK! now use ur IQ to differenciate that between porting a difference OS over another. I dont blame u as well, your first OS update was FP1, just 40mb, otherwise u should know Upgrading from one OS to the other means downloading a huge data. The only difference is Nokia suite is automatic while flashing is manual, they use dsame huge downloaded firmware data. At least The manual one comes in a zip achive so u download less amount of data when u do it manually. U need to be flogged makin dat statement with your said experience concernin smartphones U are more of a basic user who claims to know all just because he reads so much blogs without even puttin dem to practise. Quote me wrong, YOU HAVE NEVER USED A CFW SO WHY THE LIES?, u dont even have the balls to do it, be sincere.

*fighting SNIPERWOLF over N8 & RAM being laggy makes me laugh more cos u seem desperate. I think i said this previously that N8 isnt as laggy as u wanna believe. i did use 701 for few months before letting it go for another phone now, As a computer sc. I focused on Programmin,at least i should know somethin about RAM at least abi?? now why didnt i let go of the N8 instead if it lags so much compared to 701?? so Cool ur Restless A** down Uncle Jedi

Just because someone referred to this thread as a link for another person during an arguement doesnt mean it could serve as a good point like a picture, video or personal test. Just try puttin more of this things into practise before arguement kk. One luv, Uncle Jedi-701!

The fact is that you revel in ignorance.
All the CFWs that have belle fp1 UI (before the release of refresh) did that by porting them over from the OFW of supported devices (701, 700 and 603)

SHOW ME A SINGLE WAY THAT I CAN DOWNLOAD BELLE FP1 FOR N8 AND OLD DEVICES FROM NAVIFIRM AND I WILL DELETE MY NAIRALAND USERNAME.

You're clearly ignorant of what you claim to know. Navifirm only releases the supported OFWs for a device. Trying to modify a higher version to work on a lower phone through the use of CFWs is what I call porting.

For what you're referring to as 'leak' this occurs when aspects of an unreleased firmware are leaked out (maybe if they briefly appear on navifirm or through whatever means). They are now ported over to existing devices.

The thing with me is that I don't use stuff in phantom. But whether you want to believe I've used a CFW or not is of no use to this.


Like I said, if the 701 you used had the characteristics you put above then its definitely not thesame phone I'm using. Atleast my audio out is not by the side.
Even 808 and 701 with top hardware for symbian cannot be described and being smoother than highend droids, iphone 4s or lumia 900.
So for a symbian device with 256mb ram and 687MHz processor to be described as being smooth means you've not used something better.

To prove my point like I've always done, here is a quote from this link. ( http://www.allaboutsymbian.com/features/item/14959_Nokia_701_vs_N8_Torpedo_vs_Gui.php )
"Whereas the N8 will be picked for its
camera, the 701 is a monster by Symbian
standards. To put it into perspective, the clunky
WRT-based Nokia Social loads from scratch in 3
seconds, Web loads in one second and All About Symbian loads in under ten seconds (c.f. 18
seconds on the N8). Effectively, everything on the
701 is almost twice as fast. Moving around the UI,
you get the feeling that if you could turn theme
effects off (you can't!) then everything would just
be 'instant'. The extra system RAM and GPU RAM make a
difference too, in edge cases where you're dealing
with a heavyweight game, heavy web pages or
manipulating large images. There's certainly no
question of running out of memory"

Mind you, nothing stops me from saying that I've used every smartphone in the world. Afterall, it can't be proved. POST WHAT YOU CAN PROVE.

Let me deal with the screen issue decisively.
The fact is that you use phantom devices and come and spew lies about their performance forgetting that there are millions of users around the world. (remember when you said the audio out of your 701 was on the left, or that N8 has better battery life based on your experiment or that the fm transmitter of your 701 works for only less than 1m while that of N8 works for several metres. Curiously, just like this screen issue, you're the only one experiencing it.)


Facts
- N8 and C7 used AMOLED screens which offer better contrast.
- 701 has Nokia CBD which offers much better outdoor viewing and also aids the contrast when compared to other TFTs.
- 701 has the brightest screen on a smartphone.
- IPS TFT screens consume much less than AMOLEDs on white pages which gives better battery life especially when browsing.

Like I always do, I GIVE LINKS to prove my point which also come with users opinion.
This is a 1min 30 secs video comparing the two. Mind you it was done indoors where the AMOLEDs should have an advantage.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q9S4lwAnHrE&desktop_uri=%2Fwatch%3Fv%3DQ9S4lwAnHrE&gl=US
These are some screen shots from the video (I'm still wondering why they look so different from your phantom device)

The last is an outdoor screenshot where 701 still gives a good they cos of the CBD whereas C7 has made itself a mirror
N.B C7 is on the left in all pics

To further clear your doubts, look up other comparisons and videos that abound online. I've put up some which come with users opinion for u to check out.
http://www.allaboutsymbian.com/features/item/13649_IPS_TFT_versus_AMOLED_Nokia_70.php

http://mynokiablog.com/2011/09/24/videos-nokia-c7-vs-nokia-701-ips-lcd-cb-vs-amoled/

http://lazure2./2011/12/18/the-leading-clearblack-display-technology-from-nokia/

FROM THE ABOVE, I CAN SAY THAT I WOULD TAKE THE SCREEN ON 701 OVER THAT ON N8 OR C7.

temmy.m3:
@JEDISCO
hmmm, dunno what you really gain from repeatin yourself almost at every post. I Think i what i was explainin in detail concerning those 3 phones the poster requested, just because i mentioned Amoled's uniqueness to a TFT, u got upset, starting a fresh competition between N8 & 701. Can u give me one reason why this kinda arguement really needs to resurface? Nah Wah o!
U dont have to get yourself worked up man, ur latest posts really was more funnier than the first & here i could see u dont seem to understand some stuffs too. Don't worry i ll explain,


* dunno abt N86 & U have your reasons for regretting ever Using it, but surely it's not because of the screen so don't blame ur loss over an innocent screen.lol. Anyone has his/her choice of moving from different phones so ur moving from android, c7, 701, whateva is ur choice & none of my biz

*"ANY ADVANTAGE OLED has over TFT is taken care of by CBD lol. Are u kidding? Or u dont know what ClearBlack Display means? surely ur friend never has any C7 as u claimed.. That is why u dont know the visual difference between TFT & OLed.

* Dont get me wrong when i said u need to Test out some phones in order to know how far they could go. U can't judge how much u know a gadget with just reading blogs & Theories online without some real practical aspects. thats why u dont know the differences between screens & claiming CBD takes care of TFT's flaws

*The User Mentioned C7,E7 & N7 right? Tell me, what is N7 any smart individual should know what the user meant by N7.. Dnt cover it up bro, or hav u forgotten what u posted above at first? check it out...




*I dunno why u keep sayin N8 is ugly. if it looks that bad, then why do people keeps buying it without hiddin their ugly device in public.just because u dont fancy the design, does it really mean others don't? this is really senseless. haba

*Bro, Seems u dont really understand this Memory thin isuue. Let me try & Explain.
C: & E: are both phone memory, just a partition. 701 has 8gb on board memory, this 8gb is partitioned/Divided into 4 drives, C: (UDA) D: (RAM/Data management) E: (Mass Memory) ( Z: (ROFS/Flash Memory) . each of these drive partitions shares the same 8GB on the circuit board, C: & E: are the 2 user available storage partition, On 701, C: has 400mb disk space & E: has 6.3GB... while N8 has 250mb & 14.7GB on C: & E: respectively. Now use ur intelligence, Why should an N8 user who has 14.7GB space on E: worry about 250MB on C:? Unlike u, a 701 user who isnt so Happy using up ur 6.3GB and decided to impose anger on C: memory .
And again, only a Novice asks how to increase a C: memory, If u have really used a CFW, then u should know ALL NOKIA PREINSTALLED APPS GOES TO "C:" That is why u normally have almost half of the C: memory used up. This is why A new N8 originally has 125Mb free of 250mb memory on C: .. This only applies to Original Nokia firmwares cos on Custom Firmwares, U have about 210MB+ free space on N8 cos all preinstalled apps like (Maps, Social etc) have been moved to Z: which leaves more space on C:.. about 210+ Mb or more free space ! I believe CFW users can testify to that (CFW users where una dey, come testify o abeg.
I have nothing really on C: except for my antivirus, i only decided to put the leaked Nokia maps suite of 808 (about 53MB) on my C: so it wont just be useless, that drops my C: to 147MB from previous 201MB free (I ll gladly provide u screenshots if u want one ). This post really shows how much u really know nothing about CFWs as well as Memory divisions, at least now that u know why N8 default C: is 125Mb & How to get it up to 210MB, u can go reply those answering questions regarding how to increase their C:

UPGRADEABILITY.. As a matter of fact uncle, i dont joke, i cant remember the last time I used an Original firmware from Nokia except when i just wanna see its changelogs. Anna, Belle, Belle Fp1.. it has always been appearing on Navifirm, Google that if u dont know what it means. Spend 1 week with a cool CFW & tell me if u wanna go back to the original. I cant believe u, of all people could say CFW are unstable, with your rate of reading blogs.lol. this is why i say, Try Some Practical aspects of this stuffs beore u argue. there are so many makers of CFW, these guys makes this stuffs just for their own taste, u might use it & dislike it and say Hey! It is unstable, but why not make one urself to suit ur taste (at least a lil bit of software programmin and codin could help). U dont Use a CFW & u wanna compete with Android users.. Interesting

*Now how does the picture looks Fake? Or is that not an N8 & your so called 701 screen with its maximum brightness abi u tie cloth for face? .. Which is more convincing? The comments people wrote on a blog or the Picture taken to indicate what is on discussion? Dont't fight it bro, u sound funnier when trying to argue with the picture. lol. not your first time though, i remember our discussion previously when i pasted A pic concernin N8 camera and Spiinin Fans and u refused to believe, not until some users testified with their own screenshots...so am not surprised.

At first I didn't want to reply you cos you began to sound childish but since the thread re-surfaced, let me give u a reply.


* The op was simply asking for advice on symbian phones. Show me where he mentioned N8 and I would delete all my posts on this thread.

* I will discuss the screen issue in my next post.

* I think you've forgotten that we're doing a comparison here and N8 remains the more ugly of the two. Its plain naive to say that any symbian phone is currently selling in sizeable numbers.

* Memory issue- I don't know why you put up all that stuff.
Everybody knows that the internal memory on both devices. But what I'm saying is how that memory is partitioned.
The Z: is irrelevant for this.
E: Although internal is mainly user and can be effectively supplemented for all uses by a memory card.
The issue is with C: I don't know what Nokia was thinking but to me its senseless to put 16GB on a device and just allot 256mb (125mb actually) to C: so users can easily run out of memory.

The C: memory is used by many apps esp Nokia apps for cache and other stuff.
Like I said, I had over 400mb when I bought my device but now its just over 100. I'm still wondering what I would havn done with 125mb.

So to circumvent this problem, you come up with the issue of soon CFW moving system apps to Z: which is the major reason why most of the CFWs with this feature have more bugs than advantages. But even after that you still have just over 200mb which is grossly inadequate than what I need. Mind you 701 also has CFWs that can give almost 600mb on C:
Its no brainer which is better.

* Upgradeability-
It seems you have decided not to see the truth.
Let me put things in perspective. Nokia belle was released with 701 last September, it wasn't until this year that it came to older devices which was just before the release of fp1 on 701. Last week older devices just got Belle refresh a trimmed down version of fp1. Funny enough, fp2 should be out this week or next which older devices are not going to get. So the only way of filling the gap for you guys is to resort to CFWs.

The fact is that you forget that the sole purpose of CFWs for older devices is to try and bring the feel of newer devices to them and also put some tweaks.

Now to the tiresome issue of flashing using a CFW. First you've got to download navifirm, phoenix and d rest. Then you download the OFW (as its senseless to try a CFW without having it). Then you download the CFW (where you have to download almost the whole firmware for those that move apps to Z. These all come up to over 800mb.
As if that is not enough, there is a very long and complex process ( http://forum.symbian-developers.net/flashing-tutorials-(updating-and-downgrading)/(tutorial)-flashing-c7e6e7x7c6-01-to-nokia-belle/ ) coupled with the certainty of bugs after the process, the risk of ending up with a bricked device and the fact that once you start using it, you most likely would need it for further upgrades.

Take a look at your beloved xeon and see the bugs associated with it http://forum.dailymobile.net/index.php?topic=74870.0

So like I said, the issue of CFW on recent symbian handsets is senseless as there is absolutely nothing that I cannot get without flashing. Its only appeals to u so you can keep up with the pace.

SO SINCE YOU BELIEVE I'VE NOT USED A CFW, JUST LIST THOSE WONDERFUL THINGS I WOULD GET USING ANYONE THAT I CANNOT GET WITHOUT IT.

THE ISSUE OF CFW WILL ONLY BECOME USEFUL WHEN MY PHONE BECOMES TOO OLD TO MOVE WITH THE CURRENT VERSION OF SYMBIAN. For now its mainly for you guys.

Also why not try mentioning most of those your wonderful CFWs and I will show you atleast 20 pages mostly filled with user complaints.

Brainrex: First download opera7.sis
then goto phone settings
change your ip to: 195.189.142.132
Port: 80
enjoy

Kudos man! Its working though I was beginning to get used to ucweb which is much faster but does not show complete pages for some sites

nanotechy: plenty tanx

You're welcome

x-marcel:
Please what is the current price for Nokia 701

The last time I checked, it was #42,500 on slot

@OP There is a thread by a galaxy pocket user on the phones page https://www.nairaland.com/1032188/galaxy-pocket-wahala complaining about a very common problem on android which is data consumption.

You can ask her about other issues regarding that phone like battery life e.t.c but you've got to be careful cos she may not have used something better and would think what she has is excellent.

nanotechy: so what do u think about d galaxy pocket someone suggested earlier?i'v never really liked samsung but i don't mind getting it for her if it's worth its salt

Galaxy pocket is an android phone while Nokia 500 is symbian. Although 500 is more expensive, they are both low-end smart phones.

The fact is that android is a resource hungry OS and the experience you get with low speced android phones (especially in the area of UI smoothness and battery life) is not too good when compared to symbian with similar specs which is more resource efficient.

Also being a low end phone, it basically won't do some advanced stuff irrespective of the OS. So if you go with the android hype and buy a low speced one, you would be very disappointed just like most android users who come here to complain.

That said, the 500 is better speced in almost all areas I consider important e.g screen size resolution and pixel density, battery life, processor speed, camera, and being a Nokia phone durability and strength should not be a problem.

You can get a basic comparison here (although you should be careful how you interpret these comparisons as it should be in accordance with your needs and understanding what those specs mean) http://geekaphone.com/compare/Samsung-Galaxy-Pocket-vs-Nokia-500

nanotechy: Greetings great nairalanders! My lil niece needs a nokia phone urgently and i have an unquenchable hatred 4 .jar phones. Please guys, i wana know d cheapest recent symbian phone i can get for her (d phone shouldnt be more than 1.5yrs old). She's on my neck guys, help a brother. I'l appreciate it if u include prices. Thanks people, i'm counting on you.

The only phone that fits your description is Nokia 500 as its the only recent symbian phone running symbian belle and I think it was released September last year

aze: CORRECT, am on ma 2nd 1gb 4 nw. Want 2 test stormy waters soon with a 4gb 24hr-30days plan

How much is that one?

@topic I think I'm beginning to enjoy uc web browser just that I'm missing all my saved pages and bookmarks

Rhino.5dm:
very easy! Load 1200, send a massage to 440 with the following *440*4# and wait for a few seconds.


Their system will active a BB data plan with 1 gigabytes, confusing you with a BB subscriber.




Downside: You can only activate this plan once in a month, just like any other BB owner.

You can use it more than once a month by deactivating it when your data runs out.

You send deactivate to 440 and now subscribe again.

geniusbami: I'm in the same dilema, I'm currently using Samsung Galaxy Young S6102, which is quite good with all my necessary applications, but it has the following grave limitations, which has necessitated the urgent need for another one to make up for the shortcomings:

1) Data consumption extremely HIGH; 15MB lasts 24hrs max.
2) Fully charged battery doesn't last beyond 18hrs, which I suppose is due to data consumption.
3) Closely related to that, up to 12 apps run in the background; WhatsApp I understand but the rest are absolutely out of my control amd it's turning me nuts.
4) Totally disappointing Task Manager. Every time I try to return to whichever browser it will reload all the pages I was on, and if I minimise the browser long enough, say 20mins, God help me.
5) Internal memory is another BIG disappointment, it's simply impossible to install a few additional apps to those shipped with the phone.
6) Talking of disappointments, the camera is the train.

My greatest catch in the replacement will be
Efficient data consumption,
Support WhatsApp,
Efficient Task Manager and
5MP Camera or more, in that order.

I honestly don't mind a Nokia.
Any suggestions based on experience pls?

check my previous post. Your expectations are much easier to offset.

Digriz: 40k

Although you didn't specify the OS you want to use, I think the best phone you can get for that price range is Nokia 701. It gives you a very good all round experience.

From your needs, it easily caters for all of them except that although its got a nice screen, its just 3.5". Its still larger than the N95 by about an inch but still less than some others (but also remember portability when looking for larger screens).
Also, it doesn't have some of the recent HD games like asphalt 7, fifa 2012 e.t.c but it still has a decent HD game collection which is well over 50. The fact is that if you're looking for recent HD games, I doubt you would get them on any OS at that price range.

So apart from these two above, I think it covers well for everything you mentioned and a whole lot more

Shaw007: God bless you. . .this is one thing mOst ppl dOnt KnoW. . .THANKS!!
Its as if samsung thought they were actually gon get away with this knowing fully well they were violating

It was evident Samsung already lost this case from the onset especially with the kind evidence apple put forward. It was just a case of how much in damages

It was also funny that instead of proving they didn't copy Apple, their main argument was that apple also copied others which the jury didn't accept.

Although I think Apple is taking this patent war to far, but you won't blame them for trying to protect their innovation.
There are a host of other ways to make good devices without it being an iphone look-alike especially since its known apple behaves this way with their patents


For those expecting massive profit after this from Samsung, its just being delusional. Their sales 'might' increase because of this but not profit.
Samsungs market strategy is based on volume with a little profit margin this is in contrast to Apple which makes alot of profit on each device.

So yes, Samsung have long overtaken Apple in smartphone numbers but are still a long way to go in profit margin with Apple taking about 75% of phone and tablet profit single-handedly.

Also Samsung has to pay Microsoft, Nokia, Apple, Google, Motorolla and a host of others large chunks on each android device made making their little profit even more meagre.

Lastly, any boom from any new or rejuvenated OS wil more likely eat into androids market share. than Apple

The problem for Samsung now is preventing others from following suit in other courts around Europe.

bigbrovar: I think this post is flawed as it is really unfair to compare the L900 to the Sgs3. Yes both devices are good in their own way but are in completely different leagues. From hardware to software and even price point. The sgs3 and L900 are not in the same class. One (the L900) is more or less meant to be a stop gap hardware running a stop gap OS both of which (hardware and software) are coming from technological Goliath who are on the path towards getting back their mojo but who are not quite there yet. On a software stand point the L900 ships with an immature OS which still has a lot of limitations in terms of missing features and capabilities (lack of support for native 3rd party apps, or true multitasking, who highres display, or a dual core processor etc) many of the software limitations of the lumia is reflected in the hardware it ships with. This is not meant to be an indictment of the lumia rather it is the reality of the device. And why it should not be compared to the sgs3 a device from a very confidence company which has thrown in its very best and which runs a very powerful and matured OS at the pick of it's revolution. The lumia is not a bad device for what it was meant to be.But it is not (and was never meant to be) in the same class of the sgs3 its like boxing comparing two very good boxers in different weight division. The heavyweight would win any bout with a feather weight boxer almost by default and that is the best analogy I can use.

I am looking forward to what Nokia has to offer at Nokia world next month where they are expected to unveil the new windows phone 8 device. Yes That is one device which can fairly be compared to the sgs3. At least on paper the wp8 appears to have fixed most of the flaws of its predecessor shipping with a software capable of taking advantage of powerful hardware and which comes with tools that will allow the developer build (native) powerful apps (sharing the same code base with windows . Come September one can see sgs3 take up someone his own size. So I guess we can call this one to be continued. Just IMHO.

I don't want to come back to this thread but I couldn't just resist replying you.

From the long essay you wrote, I wasn't able to pick out anything useful especially as regards the topic.
What you did was simply giving us a history of Nokia and lumia which we already know and is irrelevant to this topic.
From your post it seems as though you believe that s3 is much more better than lumia in every aspect that a comparison is unnecessary.
Maybe you should go back to some previous pages and see how this issue was settled.

If you believe any is better for you, then your reply should be: I think ___ is better because 1. 2. 3. and so on and not just giving us history.

texazzpete: Pray tell me, apart from the Pureview camera, what other features?

You mean features like the low res 640 * 360 screen with a meager 184 dpi pixel density? Or the relatively puny 1.3 Ghz CPU and inferior GPU? is it in the apps selection where Symbian is woefully lacking?

Abeg tell me the wondrous 'features' o!

Remember you were the one who called it a low-end smartphone. So its up to you to state why its a low-end smartphone.

Now to the things you listed:

Screen- when taking it together with the competition. On iphone, you have a screen with a high resolution, very high pixel density, but its TFT and with poor outdoor viewing.
On GS III you have an AMOLED screen with a high resolution and good pixel density, but it has a pentile layout and the outdoor visibility is at most average.
On 808 pureview, you have the best outdoor visibility on a phone ( * link removed* ), AMOLED screen with RGB layout, but with a low resolution and pixel density

You can see that none of them has it all and they all have at least 2 important cons (I've left out screen size as its user dependent although I consider 3.5" a tad small). So 808 may not be the best in some screen parameters but its certainly the best in some others.

Also take a look at this video from phonearena comparing the two 808 and GS III and surprisingly the 808 looks much better that the GS. Thats because the lighting was good and Nokia CBD comes into play. ( * link removed* )

APPS- This is another area where I find it hard to understand you guys. Out of curiosity, I've gone through all the favourite apps thread for different platforms on this site and I'm yet to see any useful app not present on symbian. On the other hand, I've seen android users come to the symbian app thread ( * link removed * ), get awed and go back to look for like apps on their platform.
Just to satisfy my curiosity, I got into a argument on symbian vs android and after 7 pages, they could give me nothing.

So my conclusion is that apart from some recent HD games, all useful apps on any other platform are also present on symbian (feel free to correct me if I'm wrong). And its not like symbian lacks HD games (I've got over 50 installed) but some recent ones are missing.

aze: Because they glorify mediocrity over excellence; you spoke for the adoption of Acient and primitive tech instead of modern and sophisticated technologies. Apologise now to all NairaLanders

It looks as if you've been trying to get my attention. Well let me give it to you.

Tell me just 2 absolutely innovative techs that have been introduced into the smartphone world this year. Lets see how you define your own mediocrity.

walcolm: @texaspete and 4llerbuntu,

you guys will be wasting your time trying to have a discussion with this jedisco guy. he doesnt use most of the phones he claims he's an expert on.

I'm still looking for where I claimed to be an expert on many phones. All I can remember saying is that I've used apple and symbian devices.
The thing is that I have a free mind toward any device out there no matter which OS its on.

texazzpete: @jedisco The Olympus E-PL2 is not a DSLR...

to take nothing away from your post, the Olympus is an excellent camera and for the Pureview to surpass it is a wonderful achievement. It's just a shame that such great photo detail can never be appreciated on the low res phone screen.

Camera quality is not enough. the OS has to be top notch too. And that's where the 808 falls down dead.


Just wait for a Windows Phone 8 pureview phone. Nokia and Microsoft will probably announce one September 5th.

That I know. Moreover I didn't say its a DSLR. Its a micro four- thirds and there is a review bringing all three together.
http://blog.gsmarena.com/nokia-808-pureview-vs-olympus-e-pl2-vs-canon-5d-mark-iii-vs-apple-iphone-4s-38mp-shootout/


I talked on the issue of the screen and the OS in my hidden posts. Maybe I would remove some links and repost it.

Its very very unlikely to see a lumia pureview this year. It took Nokia 5 years to put this on a very familiar OS. It should take atleast a year to move this to WP. But anything can still happen
I think Nokia may just announce WP8 phones this year (which is very important now). Pureview may come at the MWC 2013. And I don't think that would still match the 808. It may be about 20MP which might not bring out the beauty of pureview.
Also because of the phone size I don't think it would be a WP 8 flagship for Nokia especially now it seems as if Nokia wants to start releasing phones the iphone way.

4llerbuntu: LIES, LIES & DAMNED LIES.

and all liars will go to the nearest house of assembly

point us to a thread or link where i made such assertion. like i said, you are fairly new around these parts, hence you really know nada abt me, except the few posts you read in the last 2 months. and FYI android is not even my dream/ideal mobile phone OS, nor is it the only one i use, even right now!!!

seems i have a new foe on NL, don't let bad belle kill you. I dunno what you aim to achieve by this unwarranted attack, and what exactly do you intend to achieve anyway?







I do not recall insulting the camera, or stating that the camera or whatsoever all those other things you listed are sub par or poorer than in any other phone. Neither did i mention it having a competitor!

Just because your bad belle is beginning to cloud you vision, i did say "That phone has nothing else going for it except the camera,"

what does that mean in straight English?

seeing that other people share that view, i just wonder why it is so itchy to you!







What is all this balderdash?

who follow you argue about picture quality size etc? i said if its the 41 MP marketing thats chopping pple, the picture size makes it impracticable for the [size=14pt]AVERAGE JOE[/size] . i may be wrong but to the best of my knowledge, the average person mostly uses mobile phone pictures for facebook, instagram, blogging etc.

does facebook or instagram allow you upload 10 MP pictures AT FULL RES IN THAT SIZE? maybe im not current, but i coulda sworn my 5 MP pics always lost quality when they get on facebook

how many 10 MP pictures will fit in a 8gb memory card(most common size) that will undoubtedly contain other things apart from pictures?

therefore as a heavy user interested in flexing you 41 MP swagger, you would have to purchase the max 32GB memory card to add to the shared 16GB on the phone to store more of your pics and stuff at a hefty sum, abi 32GB cards are cheap in your shop? N100k plus N



Of which since you can always reduce the picture quality on the phone to get sizes like 3MP, does it make economic sense to you to buy a 100k fone just to get 3 MP pictures? ironically sef, the phone screen itself is too poor to even give you the pictures in their full glory (retina? AMEN SOMEBODY)

i may not be the average joe but last time i checked i had close to 2k pictures on my 8GB memory card, taken by a 8MP camera. e no pass 1.5Gb all those pictures gaan






@ the bolded, CLEARLY YOU HAVE SOME SERIOUS PROBLEMS WITH EYESIGHT, COMPREHENSION, AND COMMONSENSE. if thats the conclusion you arrived at after reading my post.


i repeat again, WHO DEBATED ALL THIS RUBBISH WITH YOU SEF? DID I MENTION VIDEO? DID I CASTIGATE THE CAMERA?

And then again, does this mean it is better than a midrange DSLR? have you ever seen a DSLR before? or as usual you just know?

Guy french the nearest transformer o, e no concern me

1. You stated it clearly on the lumia thread that you can never use a lumia phone. I don't think you would be any kinder to symbian. Also from texs reply to you on that thread its clear you don't consider ios as being worth it. You may not have said it explicitly but your hate for anything non-android easily shows itself.
What would you have said of this device if Nokia adopted android and made this their debut device.

This phone has alot to offer apart from the cam. (Check my reply to tex for clarification).
People who agree with you are either fanboys or not well informed.


2.I really think I need to explain some stuff to you.
The idea of 808 pureview is not to take 38MP pics. As pureview only comes into play when the resolution is reduce. If you choose to do that, its up to you
The picture size produced by this phone are not impracticable and are of like sizes to other phones. Its the quality that differs.
Why do you think that most top DSLRs worth over $5,000 usually hover between 12 - 14MP.

The relationship between MP and image quality is only true for low quality digital cams.
You need to understand the issue of quantity(size) and quality as regards cams.

The 808 does not produce great pics because it has a 41MP cam (you can get 12MP cams that produce better pics). It only has a high MP because it needs that to combine the pixels and produce super pixels in absolutely stunning lower resolution images. Thats what pureview is all about.

Have you ever asked yourself why most of the absolutely stunning pics you see online are usually sized in kb? Can you compare them to the large MB pics produced by your phone?

Like I said before, the 3MP pics are much better than the 38MP pics.

So in summary whether you're looking for small sized pics for socials or large sized ones for keeps, the 808 pureview gives you better pics than any other phone.
If you want to get deceived by the 38MP (like most people out there) then its up to you. But the important thing is that you understand the strength of the camera.


3. As regards the screen and its use as a smartphone, check my reply to tex


4. As regards your comparison with a DSLR you should stick to stuff you're good at. From your reply its clear you know very very little about everyday photography talkless of a DSLR.
The 808 can hold its own against entry level DSLRs (which is amazingly stunning) but not against the mid-range or high-end ones. Again this does not warrant a comparison but praise as this is a smartphone and they are dedicated cameras.
Check this link and get stunned: http://www.gsmarena.com/pureview_blind_test-review-773p3.php