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I don't get this constant obsession about the failures of RIM on NL.
Are you peeps talking based on Nigeria or Europe?
I think we should face our own stuff here in Nigeria.
The fact still remains that BBs are still the fastest selling smartphones in Nigeria by a very very wide margin accounting for about 50% of total smartphone sales. No other smartphone comes near.

Finally, BBM is way way better than whatsapp and most chat services I've used. Most times, I get bored by whatsapp and simply close it once I put on my phone.

ITbomb: WHATSAPP AND LUMIA IS LIKE A MATCH MADE IN HEAVEN

Lumia??

Which of the LG optimus are you referring to.

P3tr CruzZ: i love apps and games,but it seems iphone lacks at that

iphone has apps and games too but you cant
compare and apple market to google play....

I don't get you two but iOS has more apps (both in terms of quantity and quality) when being compared to android.
Though the difference is getting smaller by the day, its still quite significant when talking about tablets.

4llerbuntu: The guy quotes a review that lists xperia j as a non HD budget phone.

Like seriously? Smh

So which part do you think is false. The non HD part or the budget part?

puskin: U don see am nah......the birth of the fanoks.

I still remember you two on the previous lumia 920 thread. You people should be objective for once and take the truth for what it is.

ciphoenix: Some of em, in terms of web browsing perhaps.

When I said 'holds it own', I don't mean better or worse. I mean that I don't consider any phone currently available now as 'next gen' when compared to the WP flagships. Yes there may be little pros and cons here and there but they certainly do not signify the next gen devices you were trying to make them look like.

4llerbuntu: this is not true. WP of any nature does not run faster or smoother than any jellybean phone, custom or stock.

and of which before u start citing desire HD running gingerbread, WP 8 should be measured with the latest Android, not android released 2 years ago!

whosoever your reviewers are, well they are lying

I still don't get your cutoff for 'any'
Is it last year, this year or just the latest? But like I said, whatever category you choose, the current WPs still hold their own.

ciphoenix: True, performance depends on optimization e.g for the One X, upgrading to JB puts it among top performers (even challenging the Optimus G). The sunspider benchmark only measures web browsing performance tho

Yea I know. But when a dual core 1GB RAM device does much better than a quad core 2GB RAM device, then it leaves alot of questions unanswered. Thats why I said I'm more interested in the final output cos there are alot of ways to achieve thesame thing on a device.

Like I've always said, there will always be newer CPUs and GPUs. Hope you know ARM has announced a new processor that should be 3x faster than the A15

I'm more interested in how the phone performs because it has been shown that even when two devices run thesame processor, they don't always yield thesame result especially when running different OSes. Optimization plays a big role just like I've shown above with the sunspider benchmark. The iPhone 5 even with a 1GHz processor (which can reach 1.3) and 1GB of RAM should out-perform your quad cores.

Moreso all the reviews of WP I've seen explicitly states that its faster and smother than your like androids. So you should get yourself off the pursuit of the fastest clocked processor and tell me how it performs in real life.

Lastly, I don't know since when a smartphone was equal to a processor which can easily be licensed and put in any device. The best WP smartphone which is the L920 is still the best phone now in my opinion and fully stands its ground against anything out there.

ciphoenix: that's a beast by wp standards

Beast?? I guess you haven't seen this.

jmaine: HTC 8X shows promise

https://wmpoweruser.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/10/sunspider-test.png

Wow! Although I'm not a benchmark guy, but this is absolutely impressive.
Whats more? It just came in time to reply someone on another thread.

jmaine: BCM3 to 440

Yea thanks. Coincidentally, Airtell just sent me a text now about it and how to activate it.

Akell: jedisco, pls how do i configure my nokia e5 for the airtel BIS offer?

Load N1,200
Send BSM to 440
You should get a message confirming your purchase. Its 1GB for 1 month.

Incase you exhaust it before the months end, you can send 'deactivate' to 440 and then subscribe again.

Also, there is an plan of N2,800 for 3 months (i.e buy 2 months, get one free) but I can't remember the code.

This is not so much an issue. It was well expected even by Nokia themselves considering the break in compatibility between the current lumia phones and windows phone 8.

Afterall BB was out of the top 5 last quarter but have improved.
What is important is that they are now profitable and with the release of new windows phone 8 devices and more budget friendly devices, the end of this quarter should be the real indicator of their future.

4llerbuntu: Sorry its the pantech flex not burst.

Incidentally there is a review on engadget posted yesterday.

It IS a budget phone by every definition. Pantech makes only budget android phones.

Forget about converting the prices into naira. Nigeria is not a market by which phone prices are judged. The cheapest phones are around 200 dollars which is over 30thousand naira excluding shipping and profit margins

Budget phones abroad are generally classified from $300 downwards or $100 on contract downwards which is the overwhelming way to
buy abroad and not outright purchases


uThe.pocket thats sold for 19k here costs more in dollars abroad in retail.stores.

The general trend im trying to point out is that a budget android most times packs more in than the budget wp fones like the 510 , moreover Im sure this 510 will sell for around 50k or more here sef.


If those wp phones are hackable they will bee aninteresting buy

Man THERE IS NO WAY THIS IS A BUDGET PHONE SPEC-WISE OR PRICE-WISE.

Budget phones abroad are usually free on contract and below $200 unlocked.
The lumia 710 was free from launch and was soon joined by lumia 800 and currently I think lumia 900.

I've followed the price of many phones from their release abroad to their release here. What I can say is that for phones which are released (officially) at almost thesame time in both countries, the price in the US (not Europe) is usually a little higher than the price here in Nigeria.

The 510 won't sell for 50k or anything near it. Remember it was made for developing markets and would be available there first (maybe even before lumia 920 and 820).
Currently, lumia 710 (just launched) goes for 33k, lumia 610 is lower so this should be much lower when it arrives.

Mafia4life: Is there no Alarm system App for symbian? I know of Skye App that detect noise and calls someone or MMS u the sound detected. Is there no one for camera? When cam detect movement and then activate alarm?

Hmm.. I've come across some stealth apps in the past but I didn't bother installing them. Also, I can't remember if anyone does exactly this.

Perhaps you should check some anti-virus, security/utility and extensive video apps.
But I don't think its possible to put off the red camera light during video recording which may not allow you to do such.

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bizzlemie: sup jedisco and co, pls i nid help on how to install theme effects on my nokia 701. Followed a procedure i saw online buh didn't work.

Just saw your post.
When I activated theme effects was the last time I flashed my phone. The thing is that I have alot of tweaks and patches on my phone so I can't really pick which one is for theme effects.

You can check this link. I think its well explained there. http://www.n8fanclub.com/2011/12/how-to-enable-theme-effects-without.html

4llerbuntu: This is an example of a budget android phone. Just to buttress my point. Galaxy pocket is not d only budget android in d world, nor techno t1

Pantech burst

Pricing $50 with two-year contract; $400

outright Dimensions 5.1 x 2.6 x 0.32 inches (130 x 66 x 8mm) Weight 4.66 oz. (132g)

Screen size 4.3 inches (109mm)
Screen resolution 960 x 540 pixels (256ppi)
Screen type Super AMOLED (PenTile) display
Battery 1,830mAh
Internal storage 8GB (5.5GB available)
External storage MicroSD, none included
Rear camera 8MP, AF, LED flash
Front-facing cam 2MP Video capture 1080p NFC No
Radios LTE 700/850/1700/1900; HSPA+ 850/1900/2100; GSM / EDGE 850/1700/1900/2100
Bluetooth v4.0
SoC Qualcomm MSM8960 (Snapdragon S4) CPU 1.5GHz dual-core Krait
GPU Adreno 225
RAM 1GB
MHL Yes
WiFi 802.11 a/b/g/n with WiFi Direct
Operating system Android 4.0.4 (Ice Cream Sandwich)
Supported multimedia formats AAC LC/LTP, AAC+, eAAC+, AMR-NB, AMR-WB, FLAC, MP3, MIDI, OGG Vorbis, PCM/WAVE, WMA


Spot d difference btw wat qualifies as budget on android and budget on wp?

Man I don't know your limits for 'budget' but a $400 (N60,000) device is certainly not a budget phone. Infact its at the upper limit of mid-range and might even be classified as high-end in some cases.

How can you be comparing an unreleased device whose announced price is less than $200 to a device which has been out for sometime and whose price is $400 considering the fact that it may have dropped from something higher.

Mind you, the device you put up there can be regarded as a cheap high-end android device. It may not be top notch but its still high-end.

Also, I don't get it with you posting seemingly unknown OEMs. You may like to tell us how many devices they sold cos I would rather buy a higher priced but similar speced Sony, LG or Samsung device than this thing you put up here.
Mind you, if you're looking for cheap (but unknown) android devices, I know where you could get a quad core 4.3 incher with 2GB RAM for under $150. ( http://www.everbuying.com/ )

Lastly, you might want to re-check the specs of the device you put up there cos what I got for 'Pantech burst' differs significantly from what you have there. ( http://www.gsmarena.com/pantech_burst-4429.php )

viruz007: D only thing I can say is that Nokia shld gaan sleep. Dey shld lemme knw wen dey take on Android OS. Dey have d best hardware in d phone market. Best Hardware + Best Software = Game over for samsung & apple...

So if dey want glory days back, do what is necessary. 4 nw ama stick wiv my Android

And who told you android is the best software?
How many android OEMs apart from Samsung are making tangible profit.
Go and look at how Sony, HTC, LG, Motorolla and the rest are doing with your so called android.

Abbott: My problem with Nokia is that instead of releasing their products in all their major markets @ once, they will release in UK/USA and other countries in January and release in Nigeria and co in December.
If I was given Nokia Lumia 900 free of charge I wont collect it @ all. If they like when Lumia 920/820 is released, they should not bring it to Nigeria. Will just abandon them and chill for BB Aristo.

Man stop dreaming cos nobody is going to give you lumia 900.
What percentage do you think Nigeria contributes to smartphone usage.

FYI, there are about 4 million smartphones in Nigeria over 50% of which are BBs. An overwhelming majority of whats left are symbian phones. Even when you come to androids, the common ones are the very cheap ones.
So Nokia is better off releasing the 510 here now and the higher ends when its feasible.

4llerbuntu: 80% of mobile phone users are not interested in updates. its you pesky pseudo-geeks that are always shouting about updates online

by capable and diverse i mean real world capabilities like tethering, file sharing, even hacking if u are into that sort of thing.

im sure there will be a few things a budget android fone can do that a budget nokia Windows fone wont, primarily because nokia knows well enough not to over stretch their meager hardware whilst android is simply a do it all platform.

heck u find budget androids with USB-On-The-Go and other such exotic features. even if its not there somebody is working to bring it up. there are fones that shipped with donut that run ICS AND jb!!! CRAZY.

i hope Nokia WP 8 fones will be hackable sha. that will actually get crazy pple interested

Yes just as 80% of people are not bothered about some stuff that exist just for the purpose of them existing.

WP supports tethering, side loading of apps, Nokia has released an app for file sharing.
Funny enough, all those things you listed are available on Asha phones including USB OTG

I don't know what you mean by meagre hardware. I would choose this phone over any android phone within its range. I've come across alot of low-end droids and and they were just a pain in the arse.

Iphones didn't have a long list of hardware stuff but their advantage has always been ease and speed of use. Thats a place where this phone clearly excels above androids.

So rather than getting a buggy and annoying and slow low-end android, I would rather have a smooth and relatively fast windows phone.

How many low-end androids shipped with donut and now run JB officially? Or better put how many people are using JB compared to donut. Hope you've not forgotten that almost 100% of android users are between 1-3 years behind the current iteration of the OS

4llerbuntu: source of this assertion?

obviously it wont be as capable of diverse functions as those low end androids


good thing tho is that they would prolly sell lots of these ones if they can get to make one with WP8 than those their Flagships. Those ones are on a long thing for now

Capable and diverse?? I don't get this one.

Last time I checked, an overwhelming majority of android phones sold today don't ship with JB and a good number have no hope of getting it and yet they still sell.
Most people buying low budget phones are not interested about updates.

Besides, this one should get the 7.8 update. Nokia has promised long support for the current line up so this should benefit from that.

kokoye: I'm currently working with a Lumia 510 at the moment.

It is just OK....can never catch on like an android or IOS device.

Hope you know the phone hasn't been released yet?

Some pics:

I think this phone would be a hit considering how well the Asha line is doing against low-end droids. Its major pros are its price and the 4 inch screen. Thats not adding how good it looks especially with the colours available- something lacking in low budget phones.

I think it would debut in Nigeria for between 20 - 30k and would be a direct competition to low-end androids which it should out-perform.
The only con is that its got 4GB non-expandable memory, but then, thats why its that cheap.

foyeks2001: Oyinbo wit yeye vexing...d woman is damn too hurt...most men are dogs- she shud have known dis fact

Thats true just as most women are bitches. At the end of the day, both the dogs and bitches get along and keep doing their thing.

superior1: What is it about quack doctors in Nigeria (I have had friends report their adventure with many, one was even consulting textbook right in front of an acquitance ) is it that our medical schools are producing bad ones or medical students are no longer paying close attention to their lessons?

I don't get this part of your story. This your belief is absolutely wrong.

First, I think he might have been consulting a drug manual maybe to check up doses or market names of drugs.
Even if it was a textbook, it shows the doctor understands he doesn't know everything (no one does) or might have forgotten something and is willing to check it up rather than commit error.

The purpose of education is not to know it all, but to know enough to render help in emergencies and to know where to source for and apply necessary information accordingly.

Akell: pls does the airtel BIS for symbian still works now? Thinking of dumping mtn.....

Yes its still working. I've been using it for sometime now.

sniperwolf: My N8 beeps an unusual beep and no notification. The funny thing is that the sound is neither call tone or message tone

Have you checked for apps or tweaks you installed around the time it started?
Check especially for battery rating apps, notification apps and maybe tweaks.

You can also use NetQin or any good task manager and check for running apps background.
Try using the 'optimize' feature on NetQin which closes all apps including background ones and see if the problem persists.