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@4peace you've got a really good collection. Let me check out some like lestartstop and some strange names. Although it would have been good if you added a note to the not-so-popular ones stating their use. |
aze: I have USED One X, SGS3 b4 it was launched, lumia 900, 808 PV,A fanboy will always be a fanboy |
Lord_Reed: @jediscoI have absolutely no problem with that. Moreover, many people have done that on this thread already without any interference. However, if you decide to do a comparison, you should get your facts right or if you're looking for negatives in one device, then they should be valid. |
bily: Interesting thread. What amazes me though is people that are arguing about phones they have not used extensively.most of us are basing our opinions on online reviews like jedisco, or 4Ller who has used Android extensively but can't say the same of windows phone.Yes you have a point. I never planned to post on this page until I saw people posting ridiculous lies. My plan was just to correct some of those lies. Since this is a device I've followed for sometime and should have bought if not for it unavailability locally and it not being upgradeable to wp8. That is one of the reasons why I don't want to state which is better or do a full comparison but will rather focus on correcting lies. I would have had better points if I had used the device but even without using it, I am still giving them alot of clarifications. Also this is the 21st century. You can get information about anything with just a simple search. I don't buy phones to test them. I buy them because I believe they will suite my needs. Since I like buying phones within 3 months of their release there is no other way for me to check them up. I always knew how every part of any phone was going to behave before I bought it- from startup to shutdown. I not new to the smartphone world. I've used an apple device (which I jailbroke and tweaked up), I've used android devices (though I've not owned any) and I'm one of the few people left still very good with symbian. So when I look up a device, I know exactly what I'm looking for. In summary, like I said I'm not here to state which is better or do a review but to correct obvious and annoying lies from people who think the os they use is the best at everything. |
Mafia4life: An andriod user: So Symbian belle got all these awesome stuff? Ah... I think I gotta search for the andriod version of those apps. I blame Nokia for annoucing that they will discontinue Symbian in 2016. If not, many developers will develope more for symbian since it has future.Its good to see you guys surprised about current symbian apps. Although you're got some points, 2016 is a very long time in the smartphone world add the contract with accenture for symbian development expires then. That does not mean Nokia may not renew it. |
I have come across some really good apps recently. Will make a post this evening. |
joanana: Finally, S3 wins!!!!!!Not so fast. I've been into alot of phone arguments on other sites and on this forum and have never lost any. This certainly won't be the first. |
4llerbuntu: Up till this moment this convo has been civil, which is why i have continued participating and enjoying it.User experience is the most important factor as it considers everything a device has from specs to apps to looks e.t.c Your better specs should be translated to everyday usage before we consider them. Wp has better looking higher quality apps. Its all online for you to see. On android its mainly bloatware and trash and the few good ones are highly fragmented so that you always have to keep waiting for an update that may never come. As for your 3310 analogy, its not worth a reply until you start giving practical reasons why you think s3 is better and not just a spec sheet |
4llerbuntu: You know what, Texazzpete is not an authority on anything! i say this because you seem to be taken in by his brighter grammar approach to posting tech thing on NL.What is it between you and tex? Have you ever seen me on any android or iphone thread? I am just really encountering him for the first time on this thread so you should stick to the post. Coming to multitasking what you have on android is a pity when compared to symbian. If I call that of symbian true then that of android is definitely not true. Why not start by telling me why some apps do not support multitasking on android until they are re-written. Also try and see if there is and of such on symbian. But before doing that go back and find out how android and symbian multitask. Also find out how apps run on devices. It would do you a whole lot of good. |
4llerbuntu: I refer you o my previous post above to answer this question on why the performance differs.I've always said that specs mean nothing if they cannot be transferred to everyday usage. So please stop all this ram stuff and tell me about its performance. Go back and start reading this thread from page one and see my line of argument. I have never said which device is better but that if you think anyone is better give reasons and not lies. So stop trying to put words into my mouth. My posts are all clear for everyone to see. |
4llerbuntu: You do understand the difference between the OEM's needs and work and what stock android brings?Are you so much of a fanboy that you bluntly deny the truth? It seems as though you believe that android is the best at everything? Well I pay to use these devices and not vice versa so when I see the truth I say it. I can list very valid points where symbian, bb or iphone outperform your super android device. The fact that android is open source and allows OEMs to add bloatware for the sole purpose of increasing specs and selling new devices not necessarily for performance. Now this is a very very big disadvantage to android. I have followed this os for over 6months and you're the first person saying this. All over the web its its very clear (even from android users) that wp is much more faster, smoother and easier to use and has better looking apps than any android device ever made. There are thousands of reviews that keep saying this os can only be compared to ios and you are the first person saying this. Even Samsungs on s-voice and apples siri proclaimed it the best phone. If you cannot see plain facts then I may just leave you to your fanboyism. Remember you ran from the android vs symbian thread only to come here and start with this. |
4llerbuntu: For this: here is your answer http://www.techradar.com/news/phone-and-communications/mobile-phones/windows-phone-8-release-date-and-latest-details-1065086We are talking of the present not the future. Future, apps may not work on current devices be it lumia, android or iphone. It happens everywhere. Let me also bring it to your notice that Nokia will continue to release new wp 7 devices together with wp 8. Infact Samsung just released a wp 7.5 device last week. Also Nokia has promises to continue porting non-hardware features of wp8 to this device for some time. Some of the things you say are very annoying. First it was that there is no Youtube app on wp, now its about angry birds next it would be Facebook or twitter app. You should search well before posting. So stop copying and pasting stuff you don't understand. You should be more worried about the fragmentation on android. |
4llerbuntu: Please name 5 of these xbox compatible games. and explain how it works. do you mirror them from the xbox? play them through a service like OnLive how? i dont understandI expect that if we're to make an argument, you should do some work and not allow me spoon-feed you. Wp has xbox live support which not only gives access to a whole number of unique games but more importantly a gaming world. A place where you can easily interact and play games with people around the globe. Its not about the number of games but the experience. It gives you a gaming world. Its like comparing a broomstick to a full broom. If you ever used N-Gage you would understand. Before you get to the app issue lets not forget that you have unfinished business on the symbian vs android app thread. Also consider symbian has fewer apps. Moreover its a known fact that apps look better and are of better quality on wp than on android especially because of the tile presentation. Google could help you here. Now for your list of xbox games, look at this http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Xbox_Live_games_on_Windows_Phone |
4llerbuntu: Aww shucks. remember this is a public forum and quite a number of folks have been reading up.Go back and read this from page 1 where people have asked me to do a comparison or state which is better and I explicitly said NO. So this is not a matter of shifting goal posts I have always said I'm here to correct lies and misconceptions and not do a comparison or state which is better. I would only do that if the op states what he wants from a device What attracted me to this thread was when walcom put up a bag of lies and went on to call the device a superior feature phone. |
4llerbuntu: http://www.gsmarena.com/compare.php3?idPhone1=4238&idPhone2=4578You remind me of my old self when I was still new to the smartphone world and the best way of comparing different devices was to run to the spec sheet. Now I look at a host of other things when making comparisons. One way is to look at specs when most of them mean absolutely nothing practically while another is to look at the users satisfaction from the device in totality. Before I look into your gsmarena spec sheet, let me point out something to you. Lumia and wp is relatively new so most people using them now have used recent android or iphone devices. So the issue of fanboyism is almost absent. Have you ever bothered to see reviews of lumia? Have you ever wondered why it is the top user rated phone? Have you ever wondered why former android and iphone users are so taken by this device? Have you wondered why users describe it as one of the smoothest, fastest, easy to use devices around? I used to think wp was still immature until I saw the 101 reasons not to buy lumia. I did some more research and was struck that everyone who used the device was like wow (same goes for N9). Since then, I've closely followed this device. When I compare devices, my top point is usually user opinion and ratings. This is better when looking at a new os than at an old one where fan boys abound. I have not used the Nokia N9 but would personally select it over most high-end android devices cos everyone that has used it always says they prefer the swipe ui over anything out there even though it was declared dead before arrival by Nokia. Now that is user satisfaction. I've bought alot of Nokia products before with alot of hardware I never used so now I focus on the satisfaction I derive from the phone which to me encompasses everything. You can continue with your spec sheet comparison but alot of things on a phone are not found on the spec sheet. Moreover, it seems you left out everything going for the lumia. Although I don't want to go into a comparison, let me point out a few of your misconceptions on parts of a device I consider important. 1. Screen- Lumia may have a lower resolution, but this is spread over a smaller screen size. The screen of lumia uses RGB layout which is better than pentile used on s3. Most importantly you forgot clear black display which offers awesome viewing in bright lighting rather than your screen turning into a mirror. 2. Hard Memory- will only consider it an issue if 16GB is not enough for me on a phone. 3. Ram and processor- lumia 900 runs smother than the competition which is what I consider important not written down specs. 4. Battery capacity- too close to call. From user reviews, they both last a day of good usage. 5. Size- more of a personal preference, but I prefer the size of lumia 900. Atleast it can fit into my pocket. Lastly, if you really want to do a comparison also put up the strong points of lumia which are obviously missing. |
Except if your mind is made up, I would advice you to go for Nokia 701 as it possesses alot of advantages over the listed ones above except that it does not have the 4 inch screen of E7. Also its much cheaper. The C7 has amoled screen but I think I prefer the screen on 701 to it. I don't know any phone called N7 but I think you're referring to N8. The camera on N8 is awesome but thats just about its stand out feature. For me the best symbian device now is 808 followed by 701 |
In a local shop around. I just asked them for the screen guard of C7 cos I bought the phone really early and knew the guard wouldn't be out by then. |
4llerbuntu: buhahahahaBefore I answer your question, I think it would be better if you respect the fact that those with a different opinion from yours (especially as regards the highly competitive smartphone world) are not necessarily less informed than you. And also like I've always stated maybe you should show me where I said either lumia 900 or GS3 was better Now to your question- when comparing cars (just like phones) you focus on the entire build (hardware) and not just a single option like fuel consumption. This is exactly what you're doing with all this your talk about ram and processors. And finally, if everything has canceled each other or all other things are equal then I would consider the car with better fuel economy as better. So don't mirror on just one option, look at the product in everyday usage in combination with peoples preference. Afterall lumia has gotten great reviews around the world and more importantly, its users majority of which have used other smarts and just wanted to give it a trial rate it very highly. If you think they are missing alot compared to where they are coming from, they should be the ones concerned. You hardly find anyone who has used a lumia device that is not just impressed but thrilled. |
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Let me make it clear that I've never stated which phone is better. I have severally refused to do a comparison. But my problem is that if your major point for the s3 is the ram and processor, then bringing them down to everyday usability is what I'm trying to do. You've said alot of things but let me try and list them 1. Apps and games- stop deceiving yourself that they don't have good and tasking apps and games. Its been quite sometime they reached the 100,000 mark and unlike android and symbian, almost all these apps are available for every device. What you have on android is that a good number of apps and games are not available on most devices. I can tell you confidently that they have well tasking apps. As for games it has a very good advantage with xbox compatibility. These gives it access to not only the normal HD games but unique games. This just reminds me of N-Gage. 2. Just like tex pointed out wp 7.5 and wp8 apps will be compatible except if those apps were made exclusively for wp8. But I don't think any developer will be in a haste to leave the installed wp 7.5 base. 3. In that post I never said Samsung increases ram stupidly. Infact I didn't mention any OEMs name. I was trying to say that manufacturers now prefer to increase ram and processors rather than optimizing the os to run with almost speed on the current hardware. How do you explain that some android devices receive the ics update and run smoothly while others with equal or even better hardware refuse to release it or releases something that is very laggy. Instead they prefer to increase ram and release new phones that may not be faster than the optimized version on lower speced devices. I remember reading somewhere that sense on some devices gulps a whole 200mb of ram. Just imagine? What I'm saying is that I'm not blind enough to think that more ram means better performance. 5. Lastly, MULTITASKING. I know there will be alot of controversy here. True multitasking involves running more than one full app at once not necessarily just processes or services. Android does not do this. It simply runs processes or services in the background (under strict modifications) while freezing the app and showing you a panel of recently used apps. On well speced devices, this may not be visible but on lower ones it shows up. Why do you think that some apps that are not well built do not support it? But rather restart or reload pages. This is a problem especially on a fragmented os like android. I'm not comparing multitasking with symbian, but on symbian I've never heard of any app not supporting multitasking on symbian. Also multitasking is less of a chore here. Moreover, os developers are now making multitasking more practical than just theory. So whether it freezes the app, runs just some processes or runs the whole app is quite immaterial for everyday usage. What people need is the ability to seemingly run more than one app at once which wp provides for. I would also not accept using a better multitasker on android as the reason for more ram. Afterall it doesn't multitask as good as webos or symbian which uses less hardware specs. Finally comparing my analogy to 3310 ain't so intelligent. The problem I've been trying to point out is that more specs doesn't necessarily mean better performance when comparing two different OS just thesame way a higher capacity battery doesn't mean better battery backup when also comparing two OS |
4llerbuntu: SIGH!! Tex has started again.It looks as though tex has taken you on the matter. I'm on my phone, but let me try and get you a reply. |
SexyOnyii: Nokia Lumia 900? is not even close, u cant compare nokia to Samsung, nokia lumia is just a baby to My Samsung Galaxy S3 gerrit!!!Sometimes you people make me purge with these statements. If I ask you why, I'm almost certain you would go blank but don't bother cos I don't have such time. But FYI I think a certain Chinese company has made a 2GB quad core device which to you would be the most powerful. Next year it would be 4GB God knows how many cores device and you would still jump and shout most powerful. Well... If that is what you need, there are people more than willing to give it. |
xtremeidea: The Biggest Problem i have with Nokia is that their Memory capacity is low compared to what Samsung is throwing to the market!Are you just interested in seeing 1GB and being satisfied? Next year it turns to 2GB and then 3GB and so on. Have you bothered to ask yourself whether that 512mb on lumia or even ios delivers? See there are basically two ways to solve memory issues on phones. One is to increase the ram stupidly, the other is to optimize the os to be resource efficient and then increase the ram or core speed if need be. I don't know about you but I prefer the 2nd option. |
walcolm: i'm beginning to think you're just a roadside gsm engineer looking for information you can use to deceive people who fall into your hands so you can sound intelligent to themIs it that you're never tired of being disgraced? You want this to be the 4th time you would get some trashing from me? I have replied you on this issue on the symbian vs android thread, but let me still hammer it down into your head. I have said it severally that I'm not here to compare the two phones but to point out lies spewed by novices like you. Even if I'm going to do a comparison, it would be done on the basis of user preference If you think galaxy is better for you then give reasons in accordance with your needs and just don't say its better because its better or because lumia sucks. Lastly, since you're so eager to do a comparison, why not start by comparing the metro (wp) UI to that of android and ios. That would help me to really gauge your smartphone know-how But just out of curiosity, can you tell me those thingS that galaxy s3 can do that no other device can do. |
blink182: After reading point 3, I had to scroll back up to see who the writer is. Lo and behold, the constructive jedisco. You go school so tay you enter book. I love it when brilliant people spit verifiable knowledge to bleach ignorance.Man thanks for coming to my rescue before these blank annoying fellows give me some disease. |
blackweaver: you do realise samsung shipped 10 million galaxy s3 phones in less than 2 months - that's more than twice the number of lumia phones sold last quarterI don't like repeating myself over and over again. Go back to page 1 where I finished with this matter. But how many phones were you expecting it to sell? Do you think people are so eager to use their money to try out new stuff? Go and find out how the galaxy series and iphone grew until they were able to get the much needed image? In comparison to the two above, lumia is doing very well. |
opestein: dude,u dey vex me oo.i play gta 3 of 512mb,pes 2012 162mb,gangstar hd 252mb,ashpalt hd 170mb and my multitasking still dey run smoothly u con say u dey run 100mb game 4 symbiam,abeg go throw dat shit away cos na pentium 1 u dey carry 4 hand.d highest mb game u get 4 symbiam na 256 mb(asphalt hd).symbiam na trash na d reason dey go die (i dont mean nokia) 4 2016Next time endeavour to read, understand before replying. But let me explain this to you: He was trying to say that the multitasking involved small files and games and I was saying that it was false. Moreover, I said over 100mb not 100mb because I consider anything about 75 to 100mb and above as a large size game. And to clear some of your lies, Eternal legacy is about 300mb and installs in about 500mb, dungeon hunter about 305mb and also installs in about 500mb, adventures of tintin is about 1GB. I'm not here to compare games or their sizes (as some of my best games are about 5mb) but to dispel your lies. |
gogomotet: abeg u no get point at all. All these ur long english u still have nothin 2 say with all ur criticism u still have no point against d guy so which one is d best 4 u? Oga. U re even d novice here u know nothing of d two phones and criticizing someone dat layed down d properties 4 u to learn. Abeg go learn manners and seun I recommend a section 4 mannerism.What you said is typical of a fanboy. Like you all have learnt to say 'android is better because its better' and when people try to task your thought process, you go blank and start throwing insults. I'm not here to state which phone is better for me but for the op depending on his needs which he has failed to list. I have recommended BBs to alot of people and even told some to sell their androids, symbians e.t.c and buy a BB and they have always been thankful. I don't know whether understanding this is so hard for you guys that your best phone is the one that meets your needs most. |
walcolm: I knew it, you're just a roadside gsm engineer....you're a big fraud.Its so annoying that with every post you prove how much of a novice you are. Who I am is of no use to this discussion so please stop trying to derail. When you're good at something, people easily find out. Many people are surprised when they use my phone and see me doing stuff with it they never thought were possible on a mobile. But even if I'm a road side engineer, you are worse cos I easily dismiss you and your lies anytime we meet. So its no surprise you always come up with stuff like this as its your easiest escape route. But if you think I'm like you then you should visit the following threads: www.nairaland.com/982104/favourite-symbian-3-apps-anna/1 www.nairaland.com/865664/nokia-belle-here https://www.nairaland.com/1001234/samsung-gs3-vs-nokia-lumia900 and Lastly this thread. Every time you come up with trash I easily dismiss you just like on this thread and the lumia vs galaxy thread. |
4llerbuntu: Ok so this was the thread mr jedisco was referring to?Young man, I have never said any os is better than any other but that if you think one is better, then giving reasons shouldn't be so hard. Do you want me to accept android is better simply because you say so especially when worthy reasons are lacking? |
walcolm: so this is the thread you were referring to in the Lumia thread?Don't you know the difference between owned and used? People come to me to help them root tweak up their android devices cos they think I'm good with phones. So at almost any time, I have an android device although I don't do root it. As far as symbian is concerned, I'm quite good with it. Thats why I'm asking you people where those apps are. Cos I can't go around looking for android apps that I don't know. Perhaps, you should also take a look at the symbian apps thread to see if we're really missing anything important. https://www.nairaland.com/982104/favourite-symbian-3-apps-anna Mind you, Nokia does not pay me. Instead I pay to use their devices. So I prefer to see the truth behind the veil. |
^^^ You really like your phone. I remember I put a case and screen guard when I bought mine but removed the guard after a week and the case after 3 weeks. I just prefer the phone the way it is. |
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