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PhonesRe: Your Favourite Symbian^3 Apps: Anna, Belle And Belle FP1 by jedisco(op): 8:49pm On Aug 05, 2012
@4peace you've got a really good collection.
Let me check out some like lestartstop and some strange names. Although it would have been good if you added a note to the not-so-popular ones stating their use.
PhonesRe: Samsung GS3 Vs Nokia Lumia900 by jedisco(m): 5:51am On Aug 05, 2012
aze: I have USED One X, SGS3 b4 it was launched, lumia 900, 808 PV,
Hiphone4GS etc.

ALL NA GRAMMAR.


Galaxy S3 is da Standard bearer, Flagship and Pathfinder 4 all Smartphone.


Lumia 900 is a high grade superior feature phone. It is on same level Like Asha series which nokia calls smartphone,
A fanboy will always be a fanboy
PhonesRe: Samsung GS3 Vs Nokia Lumia900 by jedisco(m): 5:34am On Aug 05, 2012
Lord_Reed: @jedisco
Yes we accept that you don't want to make a call on any of the phones however allow those of us willing to do so to make the call.
I have absolutely no problem with that. Moreover, many people have done that on this thread already without any interference.
However, if you decide to do a comparison, you should get your facts right or if you're looking for negatives in one device, then they should be valid.
PhonesRe: Samsung GS3 Vs Nokia Lumia900 by jedisco(m): 2:20pm On Aug 04, 2012
bily: Interesting thread. What amazes me though is people that are arguing about phones they have not used extensively.most of us are basing our opinions on online reviews like jedisco, or 4Ller who has used Android extensively but can't say the same of windows phone.

If you want to compare phones or argue, please do so based on your own personal EXTENSIVE use. 4ller drop Android as your primary phone and use lumia for some months same goes for jedisco, leave your symbian world as a primary device and pick up Android to use as a primary phone then we can listen to you guys.

I do agree that texx no Sabi everything but his say is more credible cos he has used some of these devices for lengthy periods. I will listen to him NOW when he begins to compare iPhone vs S3 unlike way back when he was just a bloody iPhone fan without extensive use of Android. ;-)
Yes you have a point.
I never planned to post on this page until I saw people posting ridiculous lies. My plan was just to correct some of those lies. Since this is a device I've followed for sometime and should have bought if not for it unavailability locally and it not being upgradeable to wp8.

That is one of the reasons why I don't want to state which is better or do a full comparison but will rather focus on correcting lies. I would have had better points if I had used the device but even without using it, I am still giving them alot of clarifications.

Also this is the 21st century. You can get information about anything with just a simple search.

I don't buy phones to test them. I buy them because I believe they will suite my needs. Since I like buying phones within 3 months of their release there is no other way for me to check them up. I always knew how every part of any phone was going to behave before I bought it- from startup to shutdown.

I not new to the smartphone world. I've used an apple device (which I jailbroke and tweaked up), I've used android devices (though I've not owned any) and I'm one of the few people left still very good with symbian. So when I look up a device, I know exactly what I'm looking for.

In summary, like I said I'm not here to state which is better or do a review but to correct obvious and annoying lies from people who think the os they use is the best at everything.
PhonesRe: Your Favourite Symbian^3 Apps: Anna, Belle And Belle FP1 by jedisco(op): 10:43am On Aug 04, 2012
Mafia4life: An andriod user: So Symbian belle got all these awesome stuff? Ah... I think I gotta search for the andriod version of those apps. I blame Nokia for annoucing that they will discontinue Symbian in 2016. If not, many developers will develope more for symbian since it has future.
Its good to see you guys surprised about current symbian apps.

Although you're got some points, 2016 is a very long time in the smartphone world add the contract with accenture for symbian development expires then. That does not mean Nokia may not renew it.
PhonesRe: Your Favourite Symbian^3 Apps: Anna, Belle And Belle FP1 by jedisco(op): 10:40am On Aug 04, 2012
I have come across some really good apps recently. Will make a post this evening.
PhonesRe: Samsung GS3 Vs Nokia Lumia900 by jedisco(m):
joanana: Finally, S3 wins!!!!!! grin grin grin grin grin
Not so fast.
I've been into alot of phone arguments on other sites and on this forum and have never lost any. This certainly won't be the first.
PhonesRe: Samsung GS3 Vs Nokia Lumia900 by jedisco(m): 10:34am On Aug 04, 2012
4llerbuntu: Up till this moment this convo has been civil, which is why i have continued participating and enjoying it.

now you wanna take it to the gutter, are you a GEJ 40 laptop member? cuz this is their modus operandi when arguments are not going smoothly



Now, to the point about the 3310, why is it not valid? you do know there is some sort of OS on the 3310?


You have severally said that the user experience is the key factor as to why the Lumia is better than the SGS3

you have also said that the fact that SGS 3 has better specs, or more apps are not definitive of its superiority

You also said that the performance of the phone is primary even tho you have presented nothing to actually demonstrate that the lumia outperforms the SGS 3


following your logic, i have used the 3310 as an example. it offers WORLD CLASS USER EXPERIENCE. there is no phone in the world that is FASTER, SMOOTHER, RESPONSIVE than the 3310 grin grin grin

SO also, the apps and specs on the SGS 3 dont matter na going by your postulation. afterall its not about the specs and apps, moreover i have all the apps i need on the 3310. have you ever met a 3310 user complaining about his phone?

and performance, even in this regard 3310 outperforms any fone.


SO WHY IS MY ANALOGY UNINTELLIGENT? I FOLLOWED YOUR ARGUMENT TEMPLATE, and came to the conclusion that the 3310 is BETTER THAN THE SGS 3, just like you say LUmia is better than SGS 3!!!



anyways i think im done.

STart another more interesting thread, this one is now boring
User experience is the most important factor as it considers everything a device has from specs to apps to looks e.t.c

Your better specs should be translated to everyday usage before we consider them.

Wp has better looking higher quality apps. Its all online for you to see. On android its mainly bloatware and trash and the few good ones are highly fragmented so that you always have to keep waiting for an update that may never come.

As for your 3310 analogy, its not worth a reply until you start giving practical reasons why you think s3 is better and not just a spec sheet
PhonesRe: Samsung GS3 Vs Nokia Lumia900 by jedisco(m): 10:23am On Aug 04, 2012
4llerbuntu: You know what, Texazzpete is not an authority on anything! i say this because you seem to be taken in by his brighter grammar approach to posting tech thing on NL.

That said, you say android DOES NOT MULTITASK? tex, see what you have caused?

im not going to waste my time, on this point you definitely do not know what you are talking about. whats the processes or services FUD? what is the APP, and what actually runs? delete that post pls.

for the spectators. kindly do this on your pc, start three applications. then start task manager, check the processes tab. im sure you will see processes for the apps there.
now kill them, and check. they are gone no?

Now start any application like yahoo messenger that requires you to quit the application completely, close it via the x button. it still resides in your task bar, and when you check the task manager the process is still alive even though its not immediately visible and you have to go into the taskbar to bring it up. now in that state you continue receiving pings and what have you.


Now compare this to what Jedisco just put up there. now following his logic that "Android does not do this. It simply runs processes or services in the background (under strict modifications) while freezing the app and showing you a panel of recently used apps." I guess that means windows does not multitask too abi? grin grin grin grin grin grin grin grin grin grin grin grin grin grin grin grin grin grin grin grin grin grin grin grin grin grin grin grin grin grin grin grin grin grin grin grin grin grin grin grin grin grin grin grin grin grin grin grin grin


[size=14pt]In any case, does Lumia runs processes or services in the background (under strict modifications) while freezing the app? can you skype, and chat via messenger, and download a file in the downloader at the same time?[/size]

The SGS 3 sure can do that
What is it between you and tex?
Have you ever seen me on any android or iphone thread? I am just really encountering him for the first time on this thread so you should stick to the post.

Coming to multitasking what you have on android is a pity when compared to symbian. If I call that of symbian true then that of android is definitely not true.


Why not start by telling me why some apps do not support multitasking on android until they are re-written. Also try and see if there is and of such on symbian.


But before doing that go back and find out how android and symbian multitask. Also find out how apps run on devices. It would do you a whole lot of good.
PhonesRe: Samsung GS3 Vs Nokia Lumia900 by jedisco(m): 10:20am On Aug 04, 2012
4llerbuntu: I refer you o my previous post above to answer this question on why the performance differs.

AND LEST YOU FORGET THIS DISCUSSION IS [size=14pt](Samsung GS3 Vs Nokia Lumia900)[/size]

Not any other android and Lumia.

why do you keep trying to shift the goalpost to pad your weak arguments? LOOK AT THE FRIGGING TOPIC NA.

YOU CLAIM THE LUMIA IS A MATCH OR EVEN BETTER THAN THE SGS 3, A Lot of people have said you are wrong, and you are trying to argue why and how you are right!!. thats what this is supposed to be.

if you are no longer up to it, just quit posting
I've always said that specs mean nothing if they cannot be transferred to everyday usage. So please stop all this ram stuff and tell me about its performance.

Go back and start reading this thread from page one and see my line of argument. I have never said which device is better but that if you think anyone is better give reasons and not lies.

So stop trying to put words into my mouth. My posts are all clear for everyone to see.
PhonesRe: Samsung GS3 Vs Nokia Lumia900 by jedisco(m): 10:19am On Aug 04, 2012
4llerbuntu: You do understand the difference between the OEM's needs and work and what stock android brings?

Cuz you kinda like seem to think that what comes on every android is the same.
for example the nexus line is pure android without OEM customizations.

incidentally, in previous iterations of android, the OEM's "improvements" caused a whole lot of performance issues such that people tried Cyanogenmod or Stock Android on their Phones instead. AND IT WORKED LIKE A DREAM.

matter of fact, i can tell you confidently that stock android 2.2 will outperform the OS on Lumia.

Now if the OEM decide to bump specs to accomodate their rubbish bloatware, how does that degrade the platform? Its practically like running damn slow and buggy app on your phone, and the trying to run other stuff with it......

You conveniently forget that on the LUMIA there is very little room for OEM manipulation.



Coming back to your point, it is a FACT that ICS and JELLYBEAN outperform WP7 anyday anytime.
Ironically, even with the samsung bloatware, it suffers no ill effect and IS FASTER AND BETTER THAN THE LUMIA IN PERFORMANCE.

so where did you get this talk about not optimizing the OS?


IN CASE YOU MISSED IT THE INTERNATIONAL VERSION OF SGS 3 which i posted its specs above has 1GB RAM, same as is on the SGS 2. its specific carrier versions that have varying specs according to what the carrier wanted. go to GSMARENA and check the specs of the various version of SGS 3.

So if its faster than SGS 2, was the OS optimized or not? STOP SPREADING FUD NA
Are you so much of a fanboy that you bluntly deny the truth?
It seems as though you believe that android is the best at everything?
Well I pay to use these devices and not vice versa so when I see the truth I say it.
I can list very valid points where symbian, bb or iphone outperform your super android device.

The fact that android is open source and allows OEMs to add bloatware for the sole purpose of increasing specs and selling new devices not necessarily for performance. Now this is a very very big disadvantage to android.

I have followed this os for over 6months and you're the first person saying this. All over the web its its very clear (even from android users) that wp is much more faster, smoother and easier to use and has better looking apps than any android device ever made.

There are thousands of reviews that keep saying this os can only be compared to ios and you are the first person saying this.

Even Samsungs on s-voice and apples siri proclaimed it the best phone.

If you cannot see plain facts then I may just leave you to your fanboyism.

Remember you ran from the android vs symbian thread only to come here and start with this.
PhonesRe: Samsung GS3 Vs Nokia Lumia900 by jedisco(m): 10:14am On Aug 04, 2012
4llerbuntu: For this: here is your answer http://www.techradar.com/news/phone-and-communications/mobile-phones/windows-phone-8-release-date-and-latest-details-1065086


All Windows Phone 7 apps will run on Windows Phone 8 handsets; but in future developers will have to choose whether to make an app that only uses Windows Phone 7 features and works on both, or one that uses Windows Phone 8.

This means supporting features like Wallet, VOIP, native code or being able to run navigation in the background (which should mean we finally see some full-featured turn-by-turn navigation apps that go beyond what Nokia Drive offers).

There are other advantages, but with the interfaces to components like graphics, audio and sensors being far more similar to those in Windows 8, it's a lot easier to write Windows 8 and Windows Phone 8 apps that share features.

Or, of course, they can make two versions, one for 7 and one for 8; how often that happens is going to depend both on how easy Microsoft makes it to share code between versions of apps in its developer tools and on sales of Windows Phone 8 handsets.
We are talking of the present not the future.
Future, apps may not work on current devices be it lumia, android or iphone. It happens everywhere.

Let me also bring it to your notice that Nokia will continue to release new wp 7 devices together with wp 8. Infact Samsung just released a wp 7.5 device last week.
Also Nokia has promises to continue porting non-hardware features of wp8 to this device for some time.

Some of the things you say are very annoying. First it was that there is no Youtube app on wp, now its about angry birds next it would be Facebook or twitter app. You should search well before posting.

So stop copying and pasting stuff you don't understand. You should be more worried about the fragmentation on android.
PhonesRe: Samsung GS3 Vs Nokia Lumia900 by jedisco(m): 10:10am On Aug 04, 2012
4llerbuntu: Please name 5 of these xbox compatible games. and explain how it works. do you mirror them from the xbox? play them through a service like OnLive how? i dont understand

are they the same things that are on xbox that you play on the Lumia? or just the mobile versions?

if they are the mobile version, do you know practically every major release game on playstastion and xbox are available on android in mobile format? and also a whole lotta exclusives that even Iphone has before android?

does the Lumia even have Angry Birds yet?

So if Both Platforms havelotsa great games, but Android has more= then on that point, the Lumia cannot be better no?

Ditto Apps. matter of fact on the Apps issue, its pretty subjective. However, fact remains that there is an app for every type of person on android, from geeks to casual users.
But on the Lumia that is not the case. on this point also Android wins no?
I expect that if we're to make an argument, you should do some work and not allow me spoon-feed you.

Wp has xbox live support which not only gives access to a whole number of unique games but more importantly a gaming world. A place where you can easily interact and play games with people around the globe.

Its not about the number of games but the experience. It gives you a gaming world. Its like comparing a broomstick to a full broom. If you ever used N-Gage you would understand.


Before you get to the app issue lets not forget that you have unfinished business on the symbian vs android app thread. Also consider symbian has fewer apps.
Moreover its a known fact that apps look better and are of better quality on wp than on android especially because of the tile presentation. Google could help you here.


Now for your list of xbox games, look at this http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Xbox_Live_games_on_Windows_Phone
PhonesRe: Samsung GS3 Vs Nokia Lumia900 by jedisco(m): 10:04am On Aug 04, 2012
4llerbuntu: Aww shucks. remember this is a public forum and quite a number of folks have been reading up.

kinda try sticking to not shifting the goalpost this late in the convo
Go back and read this from page 1 where people have asked me to do a comparison or state which is better and I explicitly said NO. So this is not a matter of shifting goal posts

I have always said I'm here to correct lies and misconceptions and not do a comparison or state which is better. I would only do that if the op states what he wants from a device

What attracted me to this thread was when walcom put up a bag of lies and went on to call the device a superior feature phone.
PhonesRe: Samsung GS3 Vs Nokia Lumia900 by jedisco(m): 10:03am On Aug 04, 2012
4llerbuntu: http://www.gsmarena.com/compare.php3?idPhone1=4238&idPhone2=4578


[size=14pt]SALIENT DIFFERENCES[/size]

SAMSUNG I9300 GALAXY S III
vs NOKIA LUMIA 900


SAMSUNG I9300 GALAXY S III
LTE (regional)



NOKIA LUMIA 900
---------------


SAMSUNG I9300 GALAXY S III
Weight 133 g




NOKIA LUMIA 900
160 g



SAMSUNG I9300 GALAXY S III
Touch-sensitive controls





NOKIA LUMIA 900
---------------



SAMSUNG I9300 GALAXY S III
Super AMOLED capacitive touchscreen, 16M colors
720 x 1280 pixels, 4.8 inches (~306 ppi pixel density)






NOKIA LUMIA 900
AMOLED capacitive touchscreen, 16M colors
480 x 800 pixels, 4.3 inches (~217 ppi pixel density)



SAMSUNG I9300 GALAXY S III
Corning Gorilla Glass 2





NOKIA LUMIA 900
Corning Gorilla Glass



SAMSUNG I9300 GALAXY S III
microSD, up to 64 GB,




NOKIA LUMIA 900
No


SAMSUNG I9300 GALAXY S III
16/32/64 GB storage, 1 GB RAM





NOKIA LUMIA 900
16GB storage, 512 MB RAM





SAMSUNG I9300 GALAXY S III
HSDPA, 21 Mbps; HSUPA, 5.76 Mbps





NOKIA LUMIA 900
HSDPA, 42 Mbps; HSUPA, 5.76 Mbps



SAMSUNG I9300 GALAXY S III
Wi-Fi 802.11 a/b/g/n, DLNA, Wi-Fi Direct, Wi-Fi hotspot





NOKIA LUMIA 900
Wi-Fi 802.11 b/g/n



SAMSUNG I9300 GALAXY S III
NFC Yes





NOKIA LUMIA 900
----------------------



SAMSUNG I9300 GALAXY S III
microUSB v2.0 (MHL), USB On-the-go





NOKIA LUMIA 900
microUSB v2.0



SAMSUNG I9300 GALAXY S III
8 MP, 3264x2448 pixels, autofocus, LED flash
Simultaneous HD video and image recording, geo-tagging,
touch focus, face and smile detection, image stabilization






NOKIA LUMIA 900
8 MP, 3264x2448 pixels, Carl Zeiss optics, autofocus, dual-LED flash
Geo-tagging




SAMSUNG I9300 GALAXY S III
Video 1080p@30fps
Secondary 1.9 MP, 720p@30fps






NOKIA LUMIA 900
720p@30fps, video stabilization
1 MP, VGA@15fps



SAMSUNG I9300 GALAXY S III
CPU Quad-core 1.4 GHz Cortex-A9

GPU Mali-400MP[/b]






NOKIA LUMIA 900
1.4 GHz Scorpion
Adreno 205

is this the same one in the iphone? @ texazzpete




SAMSUNG I9300 GALAXY S III
Standard battery, Li-Ion 2100 mAh
Stand-by Up to 590 h (2G) / Up to 790 h (3G) )
Talk time Up to 21 h 40 min (2G) / Up to 11 h 40 min (3G)






NOKIA LUMIA 900
Standard battery, Li-Ion 1830 mAh (BP-6EW)
Stand-by Up to 300 h (2G) / Up to 300 h (3G)
Talk time Up to 7 h (2G) / Up to 7 h (3G)
Music play Up to 60 h



SAMSUNG I9300 GALAXY S III
Battery life 43h endurance rating






NOKIA LUMIA 900
38h endurance rating





SAMSUNG I9300 GALAXY S III
- MicroSIM card support only
- S-Voice natural language commands and dictation
- Smart Stay eye tracking -
- Dropbox (50 GB storage)
- Active noise cancellation with dedicated mic
- TV-out (via MHL A/V link)
- SNS integration
- MP4/DivX/XviD/WMV/H.264/H.263 player
- MP3/WAV/eAAC+/AC3/FLAC player
- Organizer
- Image/video editor
- Document viewer (Word, Excel, PowerPoint, PDF)
- Google Search, Maps, Gmail,
YouTube, Calendar, Google Talk, Picasa integration
- Voice memo/dial/commands
Predictive text input (Swype)




NOKIA LUMIA 900
- MicroSIM card support only
- SNS integration
- [s]Active noise cancellation with dedicated mic[/s]
- MP3/WAV/eAAC+/WMA player
- MP4/H.264/H.263/WMV player
- Document viewer/editor
- Video/photo editor
- Voice memo/command/dial
- Predictive text input
You remind me of my old self when I was still new to the smartphone world and the best way of comparing different devices was to run to the spec sheet. Now I look at a host of other things when making comparisons.
One way is to look at specs when most of them mean absolutely nothing practically while another is to look at the users satisfaction from the device in totality.

Before I look into your gsmarena spec sheet, let me point out something to you.

Lumia and wp is relatively new so most people using them now have used recent android or iphone devices. So the issue of fanboyism is almost absent.

Have you ever bothered to see reviews of lumia?
Have you ever wondered why it is the top user rated phone?
Have you ever wondered why former android and iphone users are so taken by this device?
Have you wondered why users describe it as one of the smoothest, fastest, easy to use devices around?

I used to think wp was still immature until I saw the 101 reasons not to buy lumia. I did some more research and was struck that everyone who used the device was like wow (same goes for N9). Since then, I've closely followed this device.

When I compare devices, my top point is usually user opinion and ratings. This is better when looking at a new os than at an old one where fan boys abound.

I have not used the Nokia N9 but would personally select it over most high-end android devices cos everyone that has used it always says they prefer the swipe ui over anything out there even though it was declared dead before arrival by Nokia. Now that is user satisfaction.
I've bought alot of Nokia products before with alot of hardware I never used so now I focus on the satisfaction I derive from the phone which to me encompasses everything.

You can continue with your spec sheet comparison but alot of things on a phone are not found on the spec sheet. Moreover, it seems you left out everything going for the lumia. Although I don't want to go into a comparison, let me point out a few of your misconceptions on parts of a device I consider important.

1. Screen- Lumia may have a lower resolution, but this is spread over a smaller screen size. The screen of lumia uses RGB layout which is better than pentile used on s3. Most importantly you forgot clear black display which offers awesome viewing in bright lighting rather than your screen turning into a mirror.

2. Hard Memory- will only consider it an issue if 16GB is not enough for me on a phone.

3. Ram and processor- lumia 900 runs smother than the competition which is what I consider important not written down specs.

4. Battery capacity- too close to call. From user reviews, they both last a day of good usage.

5. Size- more of a personal preference, but I prefer the size of lumia 900. Atleast it can fit into my pocket.


Lastly, if you really want to do a comparison also put up the strong points of lumia which are obviously missing.
PhonesRe: Nokia C7, E7 And N7 Which One Is The Best. by jedisco(m): 3:19pm On Aug 02, 2012
Except if your mind is made up, I would advice you to go for Nokia 701 as it possesses alot of advantages over the listed ones above except that it does not have the 4 inch screen of E7. Also its much cheaper. The C7 has amoled screen but I think I prefer the screen on 701 to it.

I don't know any phone called N7 but I think you're referring to N8. The camera on N8 is awesome but thats just about its stand out feature.
For me the best symbian device now is 808 followed by 701
PhonesRe: My Nokia 603 Pleeeaseeeee by jedisco(m): 3:06pm On Aug 02, 2012
In a local shop around. I just asked them for the screen guard of C7 cos I bought the phone really early and knew the guard wouldn't be out by then.
PhonesRe: Samsung GS3 Vs Nokia Lumia900 by jedisco(m): 3:03pm On Aug 02, 2012
4llerbuntu: buhahahaha

before you waste NL Space, kindly answer this question:

[size=14pt]A hyundai requires 4 liters of fuel to get to Ibadan, whilst a BMW requires 10 Liters. Therefore, the Hyundai is a better car compared with the BMW?[/size]

That Hyundai sits the same number of people as the BMW, does the same job, has the same addons such as A/C, Radio, etc.

Can you rightly say, that the Hyundai is a better car compared with the BMW?

at least you know the little most folks know about cars
Before I answer your question, I think it would be better if you respect the fact that those with a different opinion from yours (especially as regards the highly competitive smartphone world) are not necessarily less informed than you.

And also like I've always stated maybe you should show me where I said either lumia 900 or GS3 was better


Now to your question- when comparing cars (just like phones) you focus on the entire build (hardware) and not just a single option like fuel consumption. This is exactly what you're doing with all this your talk about ram and processors.
And finally, if everything has canceled each other or all other things are equal then I would consider the car with better fuel economy as better.

So don't mirror on just one option, look at the product in everyday usage in combination with peoples preference.

Afterall lumia has gotten great reviews around the world and more importantly, its users majority of which have used other smarts and just wanted to give it a trial rate it very highly. If you think they are missing alot compared to where they are coming from, they should be the ones concerned. You hardly find anyone who has used a lumia device that is not just impressed but thrilled.
PhonesRe: Samsung GS3 Vs Nokia Lumia900 by jedisco(m): 2:50pm On Aug 02, 2012
*double post deleted*
PhonesRe: Samsung GS3 Vs Nokia Lumia900 by jedisco(m): 2:49pm On Aug 02, 2012
Let me make it clear that I've never stated which phone is better. I have severally refused to do a comparison. But my problem is that if your major point for the s3 is the ram and processor, then bringing them down to everyday usability is what I'm trying to do.

You've said alot of things but let me try and list them

1. Apps and games- stop deceiving yourself that they don't have good and tasking apps and games.
Its been quite sometime they reached the 100,000 mark and unlike android and symbian, almost all these apps are available for every device. What you have on android is that a good number of apps and games are not available on most devices.
I can tell you confidently that they have well tasking apps. As for games it has a very good advantage with xbox compatibility. These gives it access to not only the normal HD games but unique games. This just reminds me of N-Gage.


2. Just like tex pointed out wp 7.5 and wp8 apps will be compatible except if those apps were made exclusively for wp8. But I don't think any developer will be in a haste to leave the installed wp 7.5 base.

3. In that post I never said Samsung increases ram stupidly. Infact I didn't mention any OEMs name.
I was trying to say that manufacturers now prefer to increase ram and processors rather than optimizing the os to run with almost speed on the current hardware.

How do you explain that some android devices receive the ics update and run smoothly while others with equal or even better hardware refuse to release it or releases something that is very laggy. Instead they prefer to increase ram and release new phones that may not be faster than the optimized version on lower speced devices. I remember reading somewhere that sense on some devices gulps a whole 200mb of ram. Just imagine?

What I'm saying is that I'm not blind enough to think that more ram means better performance.


5. Lastly, MULTITASKING.
I know there will be alot of controversy here.
True multitasking involves running more than one full app at once not necessarily just processes or services.
Android does not do this. It simply runs processes or services in the background (under strict modifications) while freezing the app and showing you a panel of recently used apps. On well speced devices, this may not be visible but on lower ones it shows up. Why do you think that some apps that are not well built do not support it? But rather restart or reload pages.
This is a problem especially on a fragmented os like android.

I'm not comparing multitasking with symbian, but on symbian I've never heard of any app not supporting multitasking on symbian. Also multitasking is less of a chore here.


Moreover, os developers are now making multitasking more practical than just theory. So whether it freezes the app, runs just some processes or runs the whole app is quite immaterial for everyday usage. What people need is the ability to seemingly run more than one app at once which wp provides for.

I would also not accept using a better multitasker on android as the reason for more ram. Afterall it doesn't multitask as good as webos or symbian which uses less hardware specs.


Finally comparing my analogy to 3310 ain't so intelligent. The problem I've been trying to point out is that more specs doesn't necessarily mean better performance when comparing two different OS just thesame way a higher capacity battery doesn't mean better battery backup when also comparing two OS
PhonesRe: Samsung GS3 Vs Nokia Lumia900 by jedisco(m): 11:36am On Aug 02, 2012
4llerbuntu: SIGH!! Tex has started again.

let me remind you that this thread is SGS 3 VS LUMIA 900

Not WP vs Android.!! sure the argument delve on the OS a bit but im sure we can all see that the assertions of our lUmia loving friends that the[b] LUMIA IS BETTER THAN GS3 [/b]is what i oppose, ...... and you did prior to realising this is yet another opportunity to tackle 4llerbuntu!!

Well i know your baiting as usual, and im not biting. dig up the old thread and lets resume if thats what you wanna! sad sad sad grin grin grin




Thats it!! Outside, lets take this outside. mano-a-mano! wtf!!! how u go come downgrade my swagger like dat. cheesy cheesy cheesy cheesy

I said multitasking. i never said it does not save states. if you decide to be generously wide with your definition of multitasking (understandable given your Apple roots angry ) then goodluck to you.

we both know thats not multitasking.





Lol @ Bolded. when will you stop trying to soil my good name in order to hang me on NL? you are bent on being my nemesis but u cant fit!! grin grin grin

ok so now that we are agreed on that point, Yes the average consumer [b]probably [/b]dont care, BUT HOW DOES THAT ENTITLE SUCH A RETARDED statement that a Lumia is better than SGS 3?

Next thing you know some cat will start a thread and tell you BB Bold 5/Porsche is better than SGS3 simply because he uses it and he does not care about the crapberry remixes flowing on it!!!

How is the fact that a fone suits your middling, pedestrian need equate to that phone being the best of its class?

That means my Nokia 3310 Torchlight upgrade is the best in the world. it NEVER lags, does what a phone should do. infact i challenge you to tell me why the SGS is better than my 3310. what type of fuckery is that!!!







mango/Tango, Zobo etc. yeah right. like between me and you and 95% of NL actually even recognize a lumia on sight, much less the os version on it.

fact, Nokia released a crippled Mobile. Fact Nokia put it on life support and have been doling out all the things it needs to wake up incrementally. How the F am i or anyone expected to obligatorily keep up with Nokia's patching and mending?

Let them come back when they have a product that is at par with the rest of the competition. then we revise.


FACT IS: LETS FACE IT, THOSE CHAPS ARE THE ABSOLUTE BEST AT THE MOBILE GAME. DESPITE YOUR RESERVATIONS I STILL MAINTAIN IF THOSE GUYS HAD GOTTEN INTO THE ANDROID GAME THEY WOULD BE CLEAR WINNERS.

THEIR HARDWARE IS UNRIVALED, AND I DARESAY THEY WOULD DO A MUCH BETTER JOB AT THE SOFTWARE THAN SAMMY OR HTC EVER COULD. just look and that gorgeous N9 baby....... sigh!





Prolly in your haste to put me down you missed this lines from Mr Jedisco: "See there are basically two ways to solve memory issues on phones. One is to increase the ram stupidly,"

hence my point was if Samsung increasing the RAM was stupid, then why the fook is Nokia also increasing the RAM for WP8 devices?
anyway, points like that i should not have answered i concede. by doing that i just made it seem valid. Like i said the chap does not really know what he is talking about. he is acclaimed on symbian threads, he ought to stick there. the other chap there is absolutely good at symbian and does not go about talking crap over the boards







Sure there are. but you concede that there are more on Android and Iphone? and hence that surely could be a reason for the increased RAM specs, therefore the RAM is not just being increased stupidly?

Bro, there is only one spec for WP7 fones, everything straitlaced.[size=14pt] YOU, [/size]have variously complained about fragmentation on android and how there are so many different devices with various specs.

developers have to cater for the various specs, hence is it not logical that the manufacturers increase hardware to accommodate the varying software? This reminds me of the albatross of the earlier versions of Sense and Touchwiz. Those mods contributed A LOT to the "slow" grief being heaped on Android. You and i know stock Android even as far back as 2.2 was lag free!. so when the same manufacturers compensate for their crap it makes the Flagship inferior?


You see the argument is not that the way the OS operates are better or not. its the simplistic and flawed assertion that one fone is better than the other because one has reduced specs, and this point was introduced by jedisco when he said the specs are stupidly increased.

you know very well that if android operated with the same limitations as on WP7, it would outperform it all day everyday!!!
The phones areon different Levels of evolution.

i repeat my analogy about the cars. A hyundai requires 4 liters of fuel to get to Ibadan, whilst a BMW requires 10 Liters. Therefore, the Hyundai is a better car to the BMW? does this make any sense to you?






Nokia Maps yes.

But have you also considered that a 3310 may be better for my needs and cheaper, i think it looks better, more portable, legible in the sunlight, and the UI is simple and looks better, even my grandma understands it. therefore I HEREBY DECLARE THAT ITS A BETTER PHONE COMPARED WITH THE SGS 3!!!

WHAT TYPE OF FUCKERY IS THIS, SOMEBODY NEEDS TO GET SHOT
It looks as though tex has taken you on the matter. I'm on my phone, but let me try and get you a reply.
PhonesRe: Samsung GS3 Vs Nokia Lumia900 by jedisco(m): 4:18pm On Aug 01, 2012
SexyOnyii: Nokia Lumia 900? is not even close, u cant compare nokia to Samsung, nokia lumia is just a baby to My Samsung Galaxy S3 gerrit!!! grin grin grin grin grin grin grin grin campare Galaxy S3 with HTC One X
Sometimes you people make me purge with these statements.

If I ask you why, I'm almost certain you would go blank but don't bother cos I don't have such time.

But FYI I think a certain Chinese company has made a 2GB quad core device which to you would be the most powerful. Next year it would be 4GB God knows how many cores device and you would still jump and shout most powerful.
Well... If that is what you need, there are people more than willing to give it.
PhonesRe: Samsung GS3 Vs Nokia Lumia900 by jedisco(m): 4:13pm On Aug 01, 2012
xtremeidea: The Biggest Problem i have with Nokia is that their Memory capacity is low compared to what Samsung is throwing to the market!

Imagine Lumina having 512 MB RAM. thats so bad. cnt Nokia make a 1gb Ram fonehuh
Are you just interested in seeing 1GB and being satisfied? Next year it turns to 2GB and then 3GB and so on.

Have you bothered to ask yourself whether that 512mb on lumia or even ios delivers?

See there are basically two ways to solve memory issues on phones. One is to increase the ram stupidly, the other is to optimize the os to be resource efficient and then increase the ram or core speed if need be.

I don't know about you but I prefer the 2nd option.
PhonesRe: Samsung GS3 Vs Nokia Lumia900 by jedisco(m): 4:00pm On Aug 01, 2012
walcolm: i'm beginning to think you're just a roadside gsm engineer looking for information you can use to deceive people who fall into your hands so you can sound intelligent to them


you're just a BIG fraud angry

even chucky could lay claim to fame by selling the devices but you, you got nothing and you're arguing cluelessly

why don't you copy and paste some of the things people have said the Lumia can do and let me crush you with better implementation of every single one of them from my S3 and then show you those things the S3 can do that no other device in the world can do as of today!!!
Is it that you're never tired of being disgraced?
You want this to be the 4th time you would get some trashing from me?

I have replied you on this issue on the symbian vs android thread, but let me still hammer it down into your head.


I have said it severally that I'm not here to compare the two phones but to point out lies spewed by novices like you. Even if I'm going to do a comparison, it would be done on the basis of user preference
If you think galaxy is better for you then give reasons in accordance with your needs and just don't say its better because its better or because lumia sucks.

Lastly, since you're so eager to do a comparison, why not start by comparing the metro (wp) UI to that of android and ios. That would help me to really gauge your smartphone know-how


But just out of curiosity, can you tell me those thingS that galaxy s3 can do that no other device can do.
PhonesRe: Samsung GS3 Vs Nokia Lumia900 by jedisco(m): 3:44pm On Aug 01, 2012
blink182: After reading point 3, I had to scroll back up to see who the writer is. Lo and behold, the constructive jedisco. You go school so tay you enter book. I love it when brilliant people spit verifiable knowledge to bleach ignorance.
Man thanks for coming to my rescue before these blank annoying fellows give me some disease.
PhonesRe: Samsung GS3 Vs Nokia Lumia900 by jedisco(m): 3:42pm On Aug 01, 2012
blackweaver: you do realise samsung shipped 10 million galaxy s3 phones in less than 2 months - that's more than twice the number of lumia phones sold last quarter
I don't like repeating myself over and over again.
Go back to page 1 where I finished with this matter.

But how many phones were you expecting it to sell?
Do you think people are so eager to use their money to try out new stuff?
Go and find out how the galaxy series and iphone grew until they were able to get the much needed image?
In comparison to the two above, lumia is doing very well.
PhonesRe: Samsung GS3 Vs Nokia Lumia900 by jedisco(m): 3:25pm On Aug 01, 2012
opestein: dude,u dey vex me oo.i play gta 3 of 512mb,pes 2012 162mb,gangstar hd 252mb,ashpalt hd 170mb and my multitasking still dey run smoothly u con say u dey run 100mb game 4 symbiam,abeg go throw dat shit away cos na pentium 1 u dey carry 4 hand.d highest mb game u get 4 symbiam na 256 mb(asphalt hd).symbiam na trash na d reason dey go die (i dont mean nokia) 4 2016
Next time endeavour to read, understand before replying.
But let me explain this to you:
He was trying to say that the multitasking involved small files and games and I was saying that it was false.
Moreover, I said over 100mb not 100mb because I consider anything about 75 to 100mb and above as a large size game.

And to clear some of your lies,
Eternal legacy is about 300mb and installs in about 500mb, dungeon hunter about 305mb and also installs in about 500mb, adventures of tintin is about 1GB.

I'm not here to compare games or their sizes (as some of my best games are about 5mb) but to dispel your lies.
PhonesRe: Samsung GS3 Vs Nokia Lumia900 by jedisco(m): 3:01pm On Aug 01, 2012
gogomotet: abeg u no get point at all. All these ur long english u still have nothin 2 say with all ur criticism u still have no point against d guy so which one is d best 4 u? Oga. U re even d novice here u know nothing of d two phones and criticizing someone dat layed down d properties 4 u to learn. Abeg go learn manners and seun I recommend a section 4 mannerism.
What you said is typical of a fanboy. Like you all have learnt to say 'android is better because its better' and when people try to task your thought process, you go blank and start throwing insults.

I'm not here to state which phone is better for me but for the op depending on his needs which he has failed to list.
I have recommended BBs to alot of people and even told some to sell their androids, symbians e.t.c and buy a BB and they have always been thankful.

I don't know whether understanding this is so hard for you guys that your best phone is the one that meets your needs most.
PhonesRe: Android Vs Symbian Phones, Which Is Better? by jedisco(m): 2:50pm On Aug 01, 2012
walcolm: I knew it, you're just a roadside gsm engineer....you're a big fraud.

you're here trying to steal information about various phones that you'll use to make those unfortunately undiscerning people think you're good with phones but you're not because you don't know jack\

you're just a big waste of time...i'm done with you. i actually thought you had something intelligent to offer that was why i got into the exchanges with you thinking it was going to be an intellectual engagement...mtsheeew
Its so annoying that with every post you prove how much of a novice you are.

Who I am is of no use to this discussion so please stop trying to derail. When you're good at something, people easily find out. Many people are surprised when they use my phone and see me doing stuff with it they never thought were possible on a mobile.
But even if I'm a road side engineer, you are worse cos I easily dismiss you and your lies anytime we meet. So its no surprise you always come up with stuff like this as its your easiest escape route.

But if you think I'm like you then you should visit the following threads:
www.nairaland.com/982104/favourite-symbian-3-apps-anna/1
www.nairaland.com/865664/nokia-belle-here
https://www.nairaland.com/1001234/samsung-gs3-vs-nokia-lumia900
and Lastly this thread.

Every time you come up with trash I easily dismiss you just like on this thread and the lumia vs galaxy thread.
PhonesRe: Android Vs Symbian Phones, Which Is Better? by jedisco(m):
4llerbuntu: Ok so this was the thread mr jedisco was referring to?


erm ok, so to cut to the chase, the summary of your postulations is that SYMBIAN is better than ANDROID?

thats not worthy of argument. End of.
Young man, I have never said any os is better than any other but that if you think one is better, then giving reasons shouldn't be so hard. Do you want me to accept android is better simply because you say so especially when worthy reasons are lacking?
PhonesRe: Android Vs Symbian Phones, Which Is Better? by jedisco(m): 9:50am On Aug 01, 2012
walcolm: so this is the thread you were referring to in the Lumia thread? shocked.

you are really an unserious person. you are going across threads to argue about OS platforms you have not used...so what is the basis of your so called expertise

you have not used a Lumia neither have you used a symbian phone but you're posting crap claiming expertise....mtsheeeww angry
Don't you know the difference between owned and used?
People come to me to help them root tweak up their android devices cos they think I'm good with phones. So at almost any time, I have an android device although I don't do root it.

As far as symbian is concerned, I'm quite good with it.

Thats why I'm asking you people where those apps are. Cos I can't go around looking for android apps that I don't know.

Perhaps, you should also take a look at the symbian apps thread to see if we're really missing anything important.
https://www.nairaland.com/982104/favourite-symbian-3-apps-anna


Mind you, Nokia does not pay me. Instead I pay to use their devices. So I prefer to see the truth behind the veil.
PhonesRe: My Nokia 603 Pleeeaseeeee by jedisco(m): 9:37am On Aug 01, 2012
^^^
You really like your phone. I remember I put a case and screen guard when I bought mine but removed the guard after a week and the case after 3 weeks. I just prefer the phone the way it is.

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