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jedisco: @topic
I saw something on this online sometime ago so I've searched for it and pasted it here

http://nokiapoweruser.com/2012/05/21/symbian-belle-vs-android-updated-with-belle-feature-pack-1-inputs/

so let me know what you guys think

Symbian has already moved from Belle to Belle Feature Pack 1 and is available for 603, 700 and 701 as a software update. The mighty 808 Pureview will come with Belle FP1 pre- loaded.That is why we felt a need for updating this popular comparison and bringing a fresh article comparing the latest of two operating systems. So the areas, where Symbian now has an upper hand as compared to Android, Better Widgets: The widget quality on Belle devices has got great boost with Belle FP1 adding as many as 20 new widgets. Also quality wise widgets on Symbian devices have more to offer. For example Symbian widgets take less space on the homescreen and important widgets like Social and E-mail are scrollable. So yu can just check the current mails or feeds without even opening the application. While Android widgets are not scrollable and you have to open the application to check more items. Dolby digital Plus: This is great feature for any operating system and great news for Symbian device owners with Belle FP1 compatible devices. Yes Belle FP1 brings Dolby digital plus to 603,700, 701 and 808 pureview. So you basically can enjoy Dolby surround sound with any headphones as the Dolby digital plus ability is inbuilt into the Symbian devices. Major advantage, if you compare even a low range 603 to even a high range Android like SGS II. Check the video for more about Belle Feature Pack 1, RAM requirements: This is really a major strength of Symbian Belle. Check the above screenshot of N8 and SGSII. The N8 even with all the apps like Mail, Social (Facebook & Twitter),Weather widget has got as much as 104 MB free RAM out of total 250 MB (RAM) . Compare that to Android devices having 500 MB RAM. I have seen as less
as 70-80 MB RAM left for running applications in those Android devices. That gives you true picture. Android can’t support true multitasking because it is so much resource intensive. Processing power requirements: Symbian belle makes phones running on single core processor clocked at 680 Mhz very smooth. For example N8.This is very surprising in the times when we need dual core and processors clocked at 1.2 GHz for Androids to run them smooth.viz SGS2. That is sufficient to show how efficient Symbian is as an OS. Please follow the link below to see N8 with belle in action. It is also worth noting that low speced Android phones are not that smooth in operations, and Symbian belle phones in the same price range can beat them easily. http://www.gsmarena.com/
new_belle_rom_for_nokia_n8_leaks_see_the_cha
news-3540.php Power consumption: This is where Symbian belle beats Android hands down.As Android needs more processing power to run the OS smoothly.It takes big toll on battery level of the device.We have heard a lot about how android users need
to carry chargers with them,and charge it twice sometimes thrice in a day. True & live Multitasking: This is one area where even, Android’s latest ICS( Ice cream sandwich) can’t hold a lamp to Symbian Belle. Symbian always had true multitasking,with Belle it goes one step ahead and becomes live multitasking with live app tiles!! Android still only supports only a fixed number of apps while multitasking, and freezes others. Now some areas where Android is still better than Symbian belle, Screen resolution: Though E6 has proved that Symbian can support resolution other than 640×360, but still Nokia has not come up with other devices with better resolution.Even 808 Pureview is coming with the same nHD resolution although with Nokia’s CBD (Clear Black Display) it looks fab and gives awesome outdoor visibility as well. Better apps eco system: Though it is not related to OS directly but apps eco system and quality wise, Android is better than Symbian.The number of app at Android market are nearly 300000. Symbian also has impressive numbers of around 110000. A comparison by “Allaboutsymbian” shows that all the top paid and free apps are also available in “Nokia store”.But if you compare the quality then as the apps of Android get more frequent updates than Symbian, quality wise some of Android apps are better than Symbian. Please let us know what you think about this comparison !!

bnnsz384: man u are so lost. i dont read oder peoples post coz every one speak from a different veiw. i speak from experiece. i have gs2 my friend got C7. yes i was suprised wen i saw it first my pop man got d fone. my frend dint lyk samsung but wanted nokia android so i recomended c7. he got d phone and we compared c7 waz out class in terms of operation. if needed complicated apps to do tinz galxy doz witout abrik. and also hes having battery issue ly all powerfull phones dose.

for does saying day nokia haz strong battery dat doz not apply for belle . the processor and gorrila ressistivy touch drains d battery.

for does talking about nokia pure view which is not yet on sale . have u seen galaxy sIII.
infact google nexus waz first ban by cia becoz of de phone feature. cia stated dat d complex tech was able to decyhper powerful codex. some features were removed before release. cia also state dat it waz a nex gen device.

fist get ure hand on a fully utilized android den come bak and say sometin

bnnsz384: i dont talk of app bodi. i say features. apps are just fancy. pure yes nokia uses camera to blak mail u to buy der product. pure veiw is i tink 38mp or so and is windows. belive me 10mp on a phone is very good. wat will u do wit 38mp, unless u want to setup a photo studio wit ur phone. belive me the nokia 12 or 38mp is just to cover the fact dat de os is inferior and still sell their phone in a luxyrious price lyk der competitors.

ur are only talkin of apps. yes android is an app device dats why it is being used in google tv. tablet . computers. but belle is just for nokia phones. nokia haz notebook but it is windows.

believ me android apps are not useless it depends on wat u do wit ur phone.
nokia lovers will snap pic and make calls as long as dey wey want and i fancy dat coz i love nokia too but not the os. am seriously waitng for a nokia phone S40 d new asha316and no belle. all d nokia av alwaz used hav ben hig classed nokia java over20k.

but fo android lover dey just sit all day as long as der is power in der phone swaping. from apps to app. dey will play fifa if satisfied will switch to gtaIII. still if dat not enough dey pick a novel and read. still dey can wit wat u call it useless apps lyk psx or ps2 emulator connect is to der tv an play wit ps bt pads.

let me do small comparision hear.
nokia c7 50k galaxy s 4gb 50
c7 is only priced so becoz de camera 8mp and 3g speed 14mbps brought up de price. but for galaxy d price waz brought down coz some features were removed. d 16 gb waz reduced led flash removed. u feel me

bnnsz384: sorry for u vlingo is also in ios and android and windows belle is just fany app but android is apps and features. were are our belle tablets computers gagdets and hadwares at . non becoz dey cant. android haz hardware pads keyboards external cams etc but belle my frend only sows u som fancy andriod copied operations forgetforgetting the main features. belle can handle pes well but wont handle fifa. if it does it cant use external controls to play. have u seen sony tablets, its android. belle is just for small devices and plays only small games like pes12. the smallest hd game in my phone 160mb. my fifa is 1.6gb nova3 is 2gb. please. guys. do your homework before you make comments

bnnsz384: u can't be serious. belle and android is lyke child immitating d father. belle cant stand with android. dey only imitate some operations lyke game. but a real droid user will tell you why. I use galaxy s 2. give d phone hand it will cook for u. it is not just the applications. the phon is just intelligent. ill give u an example. my cameral can be used as scanner.( camscaner feature called acr) can be used to measure distance, can use face dectect to unlock phone. infact bele is just fancy and junky that y nokia will put camera of 12mp wit poor focus and resolution why galaxy 5mp looks lyk 20mp bcoz hd. oboy do ur homework properly before u concluded

dayokanu: I think the smartest ppl in life are those who grab concept really quick and make decisions while standing, but reading everyone can read jare and if you read, read cram, cram, read cram read enough it would stick someway somehow even if you are a dullard.

But you have to be sharp to get some mathematical concepts.

Why I never worked as an Engineer? In the financial sector especially , Financial Maths, modelling etc Appreciate People with core Engineering and Science background were more rewarding before the recession of 2007/2008.

aieromon: I haven't used MSDict since I came in contact with Merriam Webster.I uploaded this file a few years ago so you can give it a try.

http://www.plunder.com/MsDict-Keygens-download-a6d9f3f7b5.htm

joeydozzy: Good for you. thank god you admitted there's no setcpu, using already fast phone ain't an excuse.

ROM patcher doesn't backup, it just downloads.

Titanium backup does not only backup both 3rd party and pre installed apps, it also freezes them which is stopping its activity if still installed. it also removes bloatware that is pre installed apps that are plain boring to the eye. Can yours do that?

And who said there weren't battery apps at ovi store. I was taking about calibrating.if you don't know what that means, check your dictionary.

Mafia4life: Playing PS1 games on Andriod. I used PowerISO to Copy CD into .daa
Check out Xena playing on Samsung Galaxy Pro Y Dous (25k fone)
You got dat on Symbian?
The truth is that I still remain a die-hard fan of symbian. I just hav to adjust to the trending tech. Most app ar not supported on Symbian

joeydozzy: I'm a Nokia fan. I've used more symbian phones than any other in my life. I decided to move not because they don't have apps which clearly they do but I opted for quality which clearly they don't. I would have gone for apple cos they got the best apps but just because of their restrictions and their big boy apps, I couldn't move. You need to use some of those apps on your Nokia on an Android and see the difference. For now Android is the most comfortable platform I know. You don't sound like an Android hater but just prefer your Belle. I'm totally okay with that. The only place I've got problems is comparing the 2 just like comparing apple and Android app wise. Peace out

joeydozzy: I'm a Nokia fan. I've used more symbian phones than any other in my life. I decided to move not because they don't have apps which clearly they do but I opted for quality which clearly they don't. I would have gone for apple cos they got the best apps but just because of their restrictions and their big boy apps, I couldn't move. You need to use some of those apps on your Nokia on an Android and see the difference. For now Android is the most comfortable platform I know. You don't sound like an Android hater but just prefer your Belle. I'm totally okay with that. The only place I've got problems is comparing the 2 just like comparing apple and Android app wise. Peace out

dmainboss: @Jedisco, you went online and posted a link from nokiapoweruser.com. What would you expect them to say. If you are going to do a review, always post reviews from neutral sites or users.



I am happy you were a bit fair here. Though you embellished it a little. But lets take a good look at your argument:

Nokia was the undisputed market leader for mobile phones for a long time, but they had very poor vision of the future. Even when the PalmOS was released back in 2004/2005, Nokia still didnt see the handwriting on the wall. They concentrated on low and middle tier phones and couldnt see the Internet was driving the world into a whole new horizon. At this time Google had a clear vision of the future and started the Google summer camps. It was like a joke but today the results are quite telling.

When Nokia wanted to move away from Symbian, they had 3 options. one was to use Android. second one was to use Windows 7 mobile and the third was to develop a whole new operating system. Actually their first choice was to use Android. But according to the CEO of Nokia, their biggest fear was that they will loose a market edge because they would loose their uniqueness. They needed to stand out and they concluded they wont be able to achieve that with Android. So they opted for the next best option which was Windows Mobile 7. Their argument was that W7 had no main partner who was aggressively pushing stuff on that platform so they stood the chance of becoming that major unique partner. Dont forget that HTC, Samsung and most other companies, except Motorolla still produce W7 phones. But their really great phones run Android.

The choice of W7 for Nokia phones elicited a lot of critisms because of what has happened to companies like PalmOS. The truth is Windows mobile looks like an expensive experiment that was always going to fail. Now Nokia is trying something of their own with the Belle. The first snag they are going to have is that the belle is an Android wannabe. The Belle is like someone trying so hard to be like the Android and the problem with that is no matter how much they try, it will always look like an imitation. Multiple Desktops, Navigation bar, Notification bar, etc are basic Android stuff and only makes the Belle look like a copy. There is no new innovation in the Belle. And dont forget that Android has the biggest support and development community of them all. Currently even bigger than the iOS.

On another scale, the Google platform is what makes Android a real monster. Mobile phones have moved away from just being devices for making phones calls and sms and email but have become the ultimate communication platform and the next generation PC. That is where you cannot compare a Symbian to an Android. Many of the platforms and services that Nokia itself is trying to use are largely driven or influenced by Google. So how can Nokia be more Google than Google. Gmail, Maps, GDocs, Play, Youtube, G+, Analytics, Google Search, Earth, translate, blogger, etc are all services by Google and most of these are native to Android. So you cannot beat Android to it. Until Nokia can build their own set of services or seamlessly integrate available services, they will always be a step behind. I know they are working on some apps and services but you have to realise that everyone is building for the Android platform right now. Even Nokia themselves are now trying to port some of their apps and services to Android. That alone is food for thought.

Truth is after all said and done, Nokia will eventually end up using Android or they might fade away like the PalmOS or will go bankrupt and bought by Microsoft.

Symbian Belle VS Android: A
comparison (Updated with Belle
FP1 inputs). Symbian has already moved from Belle to Belle Feature Pack 1 and is available for 603, 700 and 701 as a software update. The mighty 808 Pureview will come with Belle FP1 pre- loaded.That is why we felt a need for updating this popular comparison and bringing a fresh article comparing the latest of two operating systems. So the areas, where Symbian now has an upper hand as compared to Android, Better Widgets: The widget quality on Belle devices has got great boost with Belle FP1 adding as many as 20 new widgets. Also quality wise widgets on Symbian devices have more to offer. For example Symbian widgets take less space on the homescreen and important widgets like Social and E-mail are scrollable. So yu can just check the current mails or feeds without even opening the application. While Android widgets are not scrollable and you have to open the application to check more items. Dolby digital Plus: This is great feature for any operating system and great news for Symbian device owners with Belle FP1 compatible devices. Yes Belle FP1 brings Dolby digital plus to 603,700, 701 and 808 pureview. So you basically can enjoy Dolby surround sound with any headphones as the Dolby digital plus ability is inbuilt into the Symbian devices. Major advantage, if you compare even a low range 603 to even a high range Android like SGS II. Check the video for more about Belle Feature Pack 1, RAM requirements: This is really a major strength of Symbian Belle. Check the above screenshot of N8 and SGSII. The N8 even with all the apps like Mail, Social (Facebook & Twitter),Weather widget has got as much as 104 MB free RAM out of total 250 MB (RAM) . Compare that to Android devices having 500 MB RAM. I have seen as less
as 70-80 MB RAM left for running applications in those Android devices. That gives you true picture. Android can’t support true multitasking because it is so much resource intensive. Processing power requirements: Symbian belle makes phones running on single core processor clocked at 680 Mhz very smooth. For example N8.This is very surprising in the times when we need dual core and processors clocked at 1.2 GHz for Androids to run them smooth.viz SGS2. That is sufficient to show how efficient Symbian is as an OS. Please follow the link below to see N8 with belle in action. It is also worth noting that low speced Android phones are not that smooth in operations, and Symbian belle phones in the same price range can beat them easily. http://www.gsmarena.com/
new_belle_rom_for_nokia_n8_leaks_see_the_cha
news-3540.php Power consumption: This is where Symbian belle beats Android hands down.As Android needs more processing power to run the OS smoothly.It takes big toll on battery level of the device.We have heard a lot about how android users need
to carry chargers with them,and charge it twice sometimes thrice in a day. True & live Multitasking: This is one area where even, Android’s latest ICS( Ice cream sandwich) can’t hold a lamp to Symbian Belle. Symbian always had true multitasking,with Belle it goes one step ahead and becomes live multitasking with live app tiles!! Android still only supports only a fixed number of apps while multitasking, and freezes others. Now some areas where Android is still better than Symbian belle, Screen resolution: Though E6 has proved that Symbian can support resolution other than 640×360, but still Nokia has not come up with other devices with better resolution.Even 808 Pureview is coming with the same nHD resolution although with Nokia’s CBD (Clear Black Display) it looks fab and gives awesome outdoor visibility as well. Better apps eco system: Though it is not related to OS directly but apps eco system and quality wise, Android is better than Symbian.The number of app at Android market are nearly 300000. Symbian also has impressive numbers of around 110000. A comparison by “Allaboutsymbian” shows that all the top paid and free apps are also available in “Nokia store”.But if you compare the quality then as the apps of Android get more frequent updates than Symbian, quality wise some of Android apps are better than Symbian.

dmainboss: I can see ya'll are avoiding ma question. Its all good then. I can understand! You lot don't have an answer for that.

Even the owners of Nokia have admitted Symbian is not a match for the Android so there's no need to do comparisons or argue with mere users.

kheart: Lagos drs are ingrate wat ll d drs in my state do when dey only collect less dan 60k as salary.

oluchy: Please I need help. My N9ne and Nokia Suite have refused to to indicate thatan update from Anna to Belle is available.They both say no update is available. I bought the phone pre order in 2009. Please what should I do.

omoboy08: Pls house dont abandon me ooo. I need help to get bak my 701 nokia store