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4llerbuntu: SIGH!! Tex has started again.

let me remind you that this thread is SGS 3 VS LUMIA 900

Not WP vs Android.!! sure the argument delve on the OS a bit but im sure we can all see that the assertions of our lUmia loving friends that the[b] LUMIA IS BETTER THAN GS3 [/b]is what i oppose, ...... and you did prior to realising this is yet another opportunity to tackle 4llerbuntu!!

Well i know your baiting as usual, and im not biting. dig up the old thread and lets resume if thats what you wanna!




Thats it!! Outside, lets take this outside. mano-a-mano! wtf!!! how u go come downgrade my swagger like dat.

I said multitasking. i never said it does not save states. if you decide to be generously wide with your definition of multitasking (understandable given your Apple roots ) then goodluck to you.

we both know thats not multitasking.





Lol @ Bolded. when will you stop trying to soil my good name in order to hang me on NL? you are bent on being my nemesis but u cant fit!!

ok so now that we are agreed on that point, Yes the average consumer [b]probably [/b]dont care, BUT HOW DOES THAT ENTITLE SUCH A RETARDED statement that a Lumia is better than SGS 3?

Next thing you know some cat will start a thread and tell you BB Bold 5/Porsche is better than SGS3 simply because he uses it and he does not care about the crapberry remixes flowing on it!!!

How is the fact that a fone suits your middling, pedestrian need equate to that phone being the best of its class?

That means my Nokia 3310 Torchlight upgrade is the best in the world. it NEVER lags, does what a phone should do. infact i challenge you to tell me why the SGS is better than my 3310. what type of fuckery is that!!!







mango/Tango, Zobo etc. yeah right. like between me and you and 95% of NL actually even recognize a lumia on sight, much less the os version on it.

fact, Nokia released a crippled Mobile. Fact Nokia put it on life support and have been doling out all the things it needs to wake up incrementally. How the F am i or anyone expected to obligatorily keep up with Nokia's patching and mending?

Let them come back when they have a product that is at par with the rest of the competition. then we revise.


FACT IS: LETS FACE IT, THOSE CHAPS ARE THE ABSOLUTE BEST AT THE MOBILE GAME. DESPITE YOUR RESERVATIONS I STILL MAINTAIN IF THOSE GUYS HAD GOTTEN INTO THE ANDROID GAME THEY WOULD BE CLEAR WINNERS.

THEIR HARDWARE IS UNRIVALED, AND I DARESAY THEY WOULD DO A MUCH BETTER JOB AT THE SOFTWARE THAN SAMMY OR HTC EVER COULD. just look and that gorgeous N9 baby....... sigh!




Prolly in your haste to put me down you missed this lines from Mr Jedisco: "See there are basically two ways to solve memory issues on phones. One is to increase the ram stupidly,"

hence my point was if Samsung increasing the RAM was stupid, then why the fook is Nokia also increasing the RAM for WP8 devices?
anyway, points like that i should not have answered i concede. by doing that i just made it seem valid. Like i said the chap does not really know what he is talking about. he is acclaimed on symbian threads, he ought to stick there. the other chap there is absolutely good at symbian and does not go about talking crap over the boards







Sure there are. but you concede that there are more on Android and Iphone? and hence that surely could be a reason for the increased RAM specs, therefore the RAM is not just being increased stupidly?

Bro, there is only one spec for WP7 fones, everything straitlaced.[size=14pt] YOU, [/size]have variously complained about fragmentation on android and how there are so many different devices with various specs.

developers have to cater for the various specs, hence is it not logical that the manufacturers increase hardware to accommodate the varying software? This reminds me of the albatross of the earlier versions of Sense and Touchwiz. Those mods contributed A LOT to the "slow" grief being heaped on Android. You and i know stock Android even as far back as 2.2 was lag free!. so when the same manufacturers compensate for their crap it makes the Flagship inferior?


You see the argument is not that the way the OS operates are better or not. its the simplistic and flawed assertion that one fone is better than the other because one has reduced specs, and this point was introduced by jedisco when he said the specs are stupidly increased.

you know very well that if android operated with the same limitations as on WP7, it would outperform it all day everyday!!!
The phones areon different Levels of evolution.

i repeat my analogy about the cars. A hyundai requires 4 liters of fuel to get to Ibadan, whilst a BMW requires 10 Liters. Therefore, the Hyundai is a better car to the BMW? does this make any sense to you?






Nokia Maps yes.

But have you also considered that a 3310 may be better for my needs and cheaper, i think it looks better, more portable, legible in the sunlight, and the UI is simple and looks better, even my grandma understands it. therefore I HEREBY DECLARE THAT ITS A BETTER PHONE COMPARED WITH THE SGS 3!!!

WHAT TYPE OF FUCKERY IS THIS, SOMEBODY NEEDS TO GET SHOT

It looks as though tex has taken you on the matter. I'm on my phone, but let me try and get you a reply.

SexyOnyii: Nokia Lumia 900? is not even close, u cant compare nokia to Samsung, nokia lumia is just a baby to My Samsung Galaxy S3 gerrit!!! campare Galaxy S3 with HTC One X

Sometimes you people make me purge with these statements.

If I ask you why, I'm almost certain you would go blank but don't bother cos I don't have such time.

But FYI I think a certain Chinese company has made a 2GB quad core device which to you would be the most powerful. Next year it would be 4GB God knows how many cores device and you would still jump and shout most powerful.
Well... If that is what you need, there are people more than willing to give it.

xtremeidea: The Biggest Problem i have with Nokia is that their Memory capacity is low compared to what Samsung is throwing to the market!

Imagine Lumina having 512 MB RAM. thats so bad. cnt Nokia make a 1gb Ram fone

Are you just interested in seeing 1GB and being satisfied? Next year it turns to 2GB and then 3GB and so on.

Have you bothered to ask yourself whether that 512mb on lumia or even ios delivers?

See there are basically two ways to solve memory issues on phones. One is to increase the ram stupidly, the other is to optimize the os to be resource efficient and then increase the ram or core speed if need be.

I don't know about you but I prefer the 2nd option.

walcolm: i'm beginning to think you're just a roadside gsm engineer looking for information you can use to deceive people who fall into your hands so you can sound intelligent to them


you're just a BIG fraud

even chucky could lay claim to fame by selling the devices but you, you got nothing and you're arguing cluelessly

why don't you copy and paste some of the things people have said the Lumia can do and let me crush you with better implementation of every single one of them from my S3 and then show you those things the S3 can do that no other device in the world can do as of today!!!

Is it that you're never tired of being disgraced?
You want this to be the 4th time you would get some trashing from me?

I have replied you on this issue on the symbian vs android thread, but let me still hammer it down into your head.


I have said it severally that I'm not here to compare the two phones but to point out lies spewed by novices like you. Even if I'm going to do a comparison, it would be done on the basis of user preference
If you think galaxy is better for you then give reasons in accordance with your needs and just don't say its better because its better or because lumia sucks.

Lastly, since you're so eager to do a comparison, why not start by comparing the metro (wp) UI to that of android and ios. That would help me to really gauge your smartphone know-how


But just out of curiosity, can you tell me those thingS that galaxy s3 can do that no other device can do.

blink182: After reading point 3, I had to scroll back up to see who the writer is. Lo and behold, the constructive jedisco. You go school so tay you enter book. I love it when brilliant people spit verifiable knowledge to bleach ignorance.

Man thanks for coming to my rescue before these blank annoying fellows give me some disease.

blackweaver: you do realise samsung shipped 10 million galaxy s3 phones in less than 2 months - that's more than twice the number of lumia phones sold last quarter

I don't like repeating myself over and over again.
Go back to page 1 where I finished with this matter.

But how many phones were you expecting it to sell?
Do you think people are so eager to use their money to try out new stuff?
Go and find out how the galaxy series and iphone grew until they were able to get the much needed image?
In comparison to the two above, lumia is doing very well.

opestein: dude,u dey vex me oo.i play gta 3 of 512mb,pes 2012 162mb,gangstar hd 252mb,ashpalt hd 170mb and my multitasking still dey run smoothly u con say u dey run 100mb game 4 symbiam,abeg go throw dat shit away cos na pentium 1 u dey carry 4 hand.d highest mb game u get 4 symbiam na 256 mb(asphalt hd).symbiam na trash na d reason dey go die (i dont mean nokia) 4 2016

Next time endeavour to read, understand before replying.
But let me explain this to you:
He was trying to say that the multitasking involved small files and games and I was saying that it was false.
Moreover, I said over 100mb not 100mb because I consider anything about 75 to 100mb and above as a large size game.

And to clear some of your lies,
Eternal legacy is about 300mb and installs in about 500mb, dungeon hunter about 305mb and also installs in about 500mb, adventures of tintin is about 1GB.

I'm not here to compare games or their sizes (as some of my best games are about 5mb) but to dispel your lies.

gogomotet: abeg u no get point at all. All these ur long english u still have nothin 2 say with all ur criticism u still have no point against d guy so which one is d best 4 u? Oga. U re even d novice here u know nothing of d two phones and criticizing someone dat layed down d properties 4 u to learn. Abeg go learn manners and seun I recommend a section 4 mannerism.

What you said is typical of a fanboy. Like you all have learnt to say 'android is better because its better' and when people try to task your thought process, you go blank and start throwing insults.

I'm not here to state which phone is better for me but for the op depending on his needs which he has failed to list.
I have recommended BBs to alot of people and even told some to sell their androids, symbians e.t.c and buy a BB and they have always been thankful.

I don't know whether understanding this is so hard for you guys that your best phone is the one that meets your needs most.

walcolm: I knew it, you're just a roadside gsm engineer....you're a big fraud.

you're here trying to steal information about various phones that you'll use to make those unfortunately undiscerning people think you're good with phones but you're not because you don't know jack\

you're just a big waste of time...i'm done with you. i actually thought you had something intelligent to offer that was why i got into the exchanges with you thinking it was going to be an intellectual engagement...mtsheeew

Its so annoying that with every post you prove how much of a novice you are.

Who I am is of no use to this discussion so please stop trying to derail. When you're good at something, people easily find out. Many people are surprised when they use my phone and see me doing stuff with it they never thought were possible on a mobile.
But even if I'm a road side engineer, you are worse cos I easily dismiss you and your lies anytime we meet. So its no surprise you always come up with stuff like this as its your easiest escape route.

But if you think I'm like you then you should visit the following threads:
www.nairaland.com/982104/favourite-symbian-3-apps-anna/1
www.nairaland.com/865664/nokia-belle-here
https://www.nairaland.com/1001234/samsung-gs3-vs-nokia-lumia900
and Lastly this thread.

Every time you come up with trash I easily dismiss you just like on this thread and the lumia vs galaxy thread.

4llerbuntu: Ok so this was the thread mr jedisco was referring to?


erm ok, so to cut to the chase, the summary of your postulations is that SYMBIAN is better than ANDROID?

thats not worthy of argument. End of.

Young man, I have never said any os is better than any other but that if you think one is better, then giving reasons shouldn't be so hard. Do you want me to accept android is better simply because you say so especially when worthy reasons are lacking?

walcolm: so this is the thread you were referring to in the Lumia thread? .

you are really an unserious person. you are going across threads to argue about OS platforms you have not used...so what is the basis of your so called expertise

you have not used a Lumia neither have you used a symbian phone but you're posting crap claiming expertise....mtsheeeww

Don't you know the difference between owned and used?
People come to me to help them root tweak up their android devices cos they think I'm good with phones. So at almost any time, I have an android device although I don't do root it.

As far as symbian is concerned, I'm quite good with it.

Thats why I'm asking you people where those apps are. Cos I can't go around looking for android apps that I don't know.

Perhaps, you should also take a look at the symbian apps thread to see if we're really missing anything important.
https://www.nairaland.com/982104/favourite-symbian-3-apps-anna


Mind you, Nokia does not pay me. Instead I pay to use their devices. So I prefer to see the truth behind the veil.

^^^
You really like your phone. I remember I put a case and screen guard when I bought mine but removed the guard after a week and the case after 3 weeks. I just prefer the phone the way it is.

walcolm: OMG...you dont even have the Lumia and you are here making noise all over the place?

it figures

I don't need to have a lumia to know when novices spew lies around.

aze: Lumia 900 a great phone so good and better than Iphone 4s, SGS3, OneX. Microsoft and Nokia are GIVING IT OUT F.R.E.E of charge.

What do u guys say?

The Consumer is the judge when it comes to sales

I really don't understand your problem.
I put the issue of pricing to rest on page 1.
Go back and read it again, then if you have issues you can come for clarification.

Daxbiz: Hello All,

I bought my Nokia 603 in March, 2012.
And I must say it has surpassed all my expectations.

That being said, I needed to protect it like a baby.
So I visited my usual phone play ground, "COMPUTER VILLAGE" at Ikeja.

But to my chagrin, I could not get SCREEN PROTECTOR and POUCH/CASING (I mean that tight plastic-like cover that glues nicely to the body). Not even from all the boys that litter the area selling these accessories!!!

Even SLOT that sold the phone to me do not have them. I tire abeg.

Can anyone please direct me to where I can get these accessories?
The phone is beginning to look unkempt. And the original screen protector (lylon, lol!) is peeling off.

Anyone with useful info?

Will really appreciate!!!!!

Signed,
A concerned/worried Nokia 603 Belle lover...

If you could not get it in computer village or slot, I don't think you're going to get it anywhere else.

The phone is quite new (to our environment). 701 was lucky cos it uses thesame case as C7.
The phone was released last year so if you check around, you may be quite lucky or you can wait for sometime and recheck

4llerbe: all right.

i will give you a few instances. looking at my old xperia as a benchmark.

i have the following apps on it, pls tell me the equivalent apps on WP

1. Airdroid. i use it to manage and access my phone from a web browser

2. Adfree native adblock

3. angrybirds

4. Amazing Alex (na game too)

5. Beautiful Widgets

6. Color Note for taking short post its notes on the fly

7 Es File explorer (file management)

8. No-Frills Cpu Control (overclocking, Under clocking etc etc)

9. PlayerPro (10 band equalizer enabled music player with ability to scrobble, download art, does everything)

10. RockPlayer lite. every video format player

11. spinlet Naija representing. our very own itunes/googlemusic/grooveshark equivalent

12, swiftkey x keyboard

13 Twicca twitter client

14. whatsapp

15. Orbot Tor client

16 temple run, wifi manager, titanium backup, xda premium app, the HOLY bible , Chainfire 3D (graphic card emulator/booster),Google Drive client, Flash, Instagram, Mass effect infiltratoropera mini, setdns, barcode scanner, flashlight app


and thats just the ones on my low 2 yr old fone.


tell me the equivalents on WP 7



No one has said you dont have enough apps, even my 3310 has enough apps. the question is what can you do with your device that I CANNOT WITH MY ANDROID, MUCH LESS SGS 3?
why are you people dodging this particular question?

i can do countless things with my android that you cannot. but we are supposed to be competitors?



you mention gaming. which HD game does WP have? Fifa? Call of Duty? which xbox game?

dude, everyone and their dog knows that the HDMI out function on android enables you play the friggin games, watch the movies etc, mirror your phone desktop to a monitor or tv
Type GAME into the play store search box and start counting.

better prospects? my xperia has better prospects of flying to the moon unaided. xbox my arse
WP will NEVER rival IOS or Android as a gaming platform, FACT!

btw, YOUR LUMIA IS NOT GOING TO GET WP8 , I HOPE YOU KNOW. its not kuku as if the wp8 will magically turn the things into supa stars sef



as for the price issue, and don't you think its ironic that your super lumia is being dashed out almost free? i mean wow, nokia and ms have got this wonderful fone thats better than the best android but are so magnanimous as to give it out for so cheap like our friend the marketer who bought 18,900 phones but is selling at 17, 000.

like seriously, what are you guys eating? must have lsd in it

I don't know why you find it so difficult to see somethings.
I don't have a lumia device but from what you and your folks displayed on the android vs symbian thread, I'm more than convinced that those apps are more than catered for. Also, giving the fact that wp has more effective apps than symbian which they achieved within a shorter period.


If you're still confused on the availability of HD games and xbox live games, Google and wp market place should clear your doubts.

Finally, I've stated it severally that I'm in no mood to compare the two phones and you're not going to push me into doing that. But I assure you that each phone has its pros and cons when compared to the other.

@4llerbuntu

Endeavour to read the whole thread again. You should not have copied and pasted that stuff. That had been handled already.

4llerbuntu: At this point, you completely lost the plot.

this is illogical argument at its best. and its completely flawed and so untrue. so you visited the android market but was not impressed? but the WP market impressed you? the apps in WP market do what exactly? farting apps ? ringtones?

how the Fook do you expect anyone to list all the apps on android? and precisely how many apps do you think the average user will install at any given time?

To clear your confusion, the catch phrase is "there is an app for that". that is the issue, not this FUD you are spreading.


for any given thing you intend to achieve with your phone at the material time, is it possible? yes or no. that is what sets the ecosystems apart.
its a non-starter comparing apps on WP to ANY ECOSYSTEM, even BADA



incidentally, your much vaunted WP7 is playing catch up, which even microsoft acknowledges. lots of everyday mundane stuff are actually very deficient or impossible on that platform. for example, does it now have a decent youtube application?

maybe you should check the list of "features" that WP 8 will add and see that there is not 1 feature that is unique or not ALREADY on ios and android.




as for performance etc. the first question is, is your Lumia even capable of running things that will task its performance?
how many games capable of taking a phone to the limit exist on WP?

BTW since the flagships are being compared, why do you keep citing old android phones that came with froyo and gingerbread as benchmarks? is lumia better or smoother than any ICS or JELLYBEAN phone?


sure the specs game is not where it ends, but what you are doing is equivalent to claiming that a Hyundai Sonata is better than a BMW because ...... whatever. fill in the gap.......
they are not even in the same league!



even more amazing is that this phone that you claim to be a flagship or Nokia/MS WP is being given out for almost free, how can a flagship on firesale be at par with one with millions in pre-order? before they put lumia on sales, how many units were they selling?

apparently, you seem to think the whole wide tech world that has put SGS 3 at the top of the food chain are ignorant abi?

Well... I still remember you. Maybe we should finish up this app stuff.

Everybody knows android has plenty apps so I don't need to visit. I visited that of windows to see what kind of apps are there. Moreover I brought this up cos someone was trying to say wp don't have good apps which is wrong.


I'm not expecting you to list all the apps. I have about 250 - 300 apps which is hardly exhaustive. What I want you to do is to explain to me why you think I don't have enough apps by giving me examples. Then I will agree with you.

Youtube app A simple search on Google would do. Moreover from last time you know what I mean by apps.

Coming to games, lumia can play xbox live games. So if you are thinking of real HD games, its got better prospects than some others. With wp8 the talk is now running pc games although the current devices won't be updated.


Talking about the price of the phone, that was well handled on page 1

4llerbuntu: At this point, you completely lost the plot.

this is illogical argument at its best. and its completely flawed and so untrue. so you visited the android market but was not impressed? but the WP market impressed you? the apps in WP market do what exactly? farting apps ? ringtones?

how the Fook do you expect anyone to list all the apps on android? and precisely how many apps do you think the average user will install at any given time?

To clear your confusion, the catch phrase is "there is an app for that". that is the issue, not this FUD you are spreading.


for any given thing you intend to achieve with your phone at the material time, is it possible? yes or no. that is what sets the ecosystems apart.
its a non-starter comparing apps on WP to ANY ECOSYSTEM, even BADA



incidentally, your much vaunted WP7 is playing catch up, which even microsoft acknowledges. lots of everyday mundane stuff are actually very deficient or impossible on that platform. for example, does it now have a decent youtube application?

maybe you should check the list of "features" that WP 8 will add and see that there is not 1 feature that is unique or not ALREADY on ios and android.




as for performance etc. the first question is, is your Lumia even capable of running things that will task its performance?
how many games capable of taking a phone to the limit exist on WP?

BTW since the flagships are being compared, why do you keep citing old android phones that came with froyo and gingerbread as benchmarks? is lumia better or smoother than any ICS or JELLYBEAN phone?


sure the specs game is not where it ends, but what you are doing is equivalent to claiming that a Hyundai Sonata is better than a BMW because ...... whatever. fill in the gap.......
they are not even in the same league!



even more amazing is that this phone that you claim to be a flagship or Nokia/MS WP is being given out for almost free, how can a flagship on firesale be at par with one with millions in pre-order? before they put lumia on sales, how many units were they selling?

apparently, you seem to think the whole wide tech world that has put SGS 3 at the top of the food chain are ignorant abi?

Well... I still remember you. Maybe we should finish up this app stuff.

Everybody knows android has plenty apps so I don't need to visit. I visited that of windows to see what kind of apps are there. Moreover I brought this up cos someone was trying to say wp don't have good apps which is wrong.


I'm not expecting you to list all the apps. I have about 250 - 300 apps which is hardly exhaustive. What I want you to do is to explain to me why you think I don't have enough apps by giving me examples. Then I will agree with you.

Coming to games, lumia can play xbox live games. So if you are thinking of real HD games, its got better prospects than some others. With wp8 the talk is now running pc games although the current devices won't be updated.


Talking about the price of the phone, that was well handled on page 1

walcolm: i think this is the point i stop exchanging with you on this topic. its pretty clear you find it hard to understand what you see or read.

As usual when you run out of facts, you bring up this stuff.
Well... Its not the first time

texazzpete: All this lengthy rhetoric...and for what? To argue a non-existent case?

Bottom line is, in terms of raw processing power and 3D graphics rendering, the SoC in the Galaxy S3 far outstrips anything in Windows Phone, surpasses the chipset in the iPhone 4S and blows away anything in any Nokia phone.

Attempts to say that the Symbian app ecosystem is anywhere nearly as rich as Android or iOS is just laughable. Most of the big name devs tend to shun Symbian these days...heck, why root for an OS that even it's principal sponsor (nokia) has no desire to use in high end devices anymore?

I think you really need to educate yourself on current high end Android devices. the days of leveling the 'laggy' accusation at top drawer Android phones are over. Windows phone may be smooth while whisking through the UI but actual app performance will fall way behind the GS3 or the One X. We see this bear out it browser benchmarks, time to open apps, open large files etc. Definitely there's no comparison when it comes to 3D gaming. I have never had a slowdown on my GS3...

please stop confusing 'best' with 'powerful'. The pureview 808 is the best camera phone but it isn't nearly the most powerful camera phone. I haven't used one before but most of the reviews talk about slow browsers, UI freezing and slow app opening times. Is that your definition of 'powerful'?

I raised up two points and tried to explain them. As usual, you try to cut corners and focus on what you think is right leaving the points you were blank on.

Let me make it clear that I'm not comparing the two devices but just trying to point out some misconceptions.

1. I'm not comparing the symbian app ecosystem to that of android. But I'm saying that I'm not going to accept that one is better simply because it has 450,000 apps especially when users of the device could not list tangible apps even after 7 pages. I still wondering why it would be so hard to list good ones not on symbian out of the lot.

2. The above line of thought also applies to the hardware specs.
I don't consider a device powerful simply because it has quad core. Have you ever thought of comparing devices based on how their smoothness and speed and when handling them keeping the specs aside.
If in everyday usage the quad core is faster, then thats good but if they are equal thats bad.
Let me give a typical example. People always believed that at least a dual core was needed for full HD video recording. That only changed when Nokia put that in a single core phone. Same goes for alot of other things. That its dual core does not mean its faster than a single core.


Lastly I don't know what you mean by best and powerful, but I always prefer the best over the most powerful.
What I consider a powerful device is one that can perform wanted tasks smoothly (whether its got 1mb or 1gb ram is immaterial), and also has other hardware I find interesting. If any phone gives that, then no probs.
If power only means processor benchmark to you then I may accept we differ in that regard.

texazzpete: Kindly show me the 'wrong stuff' in my post...I'm all ears

Make sure of your facts before posting them sha...i'm not usually wrong.

Its good you seem very confident. Well I'm interested in two things from your post.

1. How do you define the word powerful on a mobile phone? Is it based on the specs and paper benchmarks or on the ease and speed of usage as it relates to your use?
Would you consider a laggy dual core 100mb ram device more powerful than a single core 50mb device which is smooth?
Would you consider a smartphone with a higher battery capacity to have better battery backup than another smartphone with a lower battery capacity but longer battery life?

Does the power of a phone solely depend on the processing capacity?

To me, the use of quad core and large rams on android although good, is akin to attaching a loaded bus (android os) to a ferarri. Yes it may still function well but once in a while, the resource hungry bug shows its face. Now compare that to putting some load in the ferarri, its bound to move fast without occasional hitches.
I would prefer a smooth os like ios or wp running on good hardware to android running on excellent hardware.

I'm asking cos I believe that for a smartphone user who is crazy about taking pics, the most powerful phone is Nokia 808.
For a person who does not want a very large screen phone that works smoothly with little or no help, the most powerful phone is iphone 4s.
For a person who is social-crazy, a good internet user who still wants cheap internet rates, the most powerful device is one of the BBs.


2. Coming to the issue of apps. Since the last time android users after 7 pages were unable to give useful apps not present on symbian out of their 450,000 (apart from current absence of online video call), I became very weary about this app stuff. Especially since the symbian guys were giving cogent reasons and some useful apps. My conclusion is that majority of those apps are cheap repeations, viruses or spam.

Moreover, I've gone though threads of favourite android, symbian and bb apps and I begin to wonder where all the thousand apps are.

So I've come to a conclusion that once a certain point is reached in the number of apps, most things left are just recurring decimals. The only exception maybe some games. I take this point to be the 100,000 mark which wp has reached.

Moreover, wp market place has more apps for any given phone than symbian. So thesame rule should apply here


Although I don't use a windows phone, I've been to wp market place and I think I'm quite impressed with the number, quality and speed of growth (which BTW is faster than that of android)

Lastly, app developers (especially HD game developers) are willing to support windows.

In conclusion, I think the issues of apps when comparing android to windows does not hold water.

emteecve: tanx 2 u all 4 all ur comments.

You're welcome. Hope you make good choice that suits your needs.

And sorry for derailing your thread

texazzpete: So hilarious to see these kids arguing among themselves.

Imagine folks comparing different phones and all someone could talk about is the hardware specs. Really?

Bottom line is, the GS3 is the most powerful phone on the planet now, and it's OS (Android 4.0) has a very vibrant ecosystem...it's a very solid buy.

The Lumia 900 is a gorgeous phone with a slick OS. It's not nearly as powerful as the GS3 and there are much fewer apps than the GS3 so that makes the GS3 a more sensible purchase.

But...contrary to what these kids here will tell you, the Lumia 900 is not a bad phone. It's an excellent , slick phone that owners love. there's a reason why the Lumia 900 has a higher satisfaction rating on Amazon Wireless than practically any other phone out there.

Still wondering who you were referring to as kids. Though I would not want to take on some wrong stuff in your post.

joeydozzy: @ jedisco, i agree with you but give the op some tips

Personally, I believe that for someone to ask this question it means he may not be so keen about the smartphone world. If wanted to buy a phone, I already know what to go for without asking.

So what I think is that the op is an everyday smartphone user who wants a snappy simple device that just works.
This is exactly what lumia (and ios) gives and besides its has a very very beautiful build- one of the finest phones around. I also believe that there is no nothing he would want to do or that there is any software he would need that is not currently available in lumia.
I would only advice him to go for GSIII if he fancies the larger screen. I'm not saying that its not fast, but wp is very easy to use.

All in all, If he wants a wp device, maybe he should wait for wp8 as it should take away certain limitations but that would be useful if he considers them limitations. Afterall, they've been on apple for ages.

@walcolm

I thought you said it makes no sense reading reviews that are paid for. Well I base my opinion on alot of things not just reviews. So you can go on reading reviews of every phone out there.


I have said you should stick to what you can prove. Maybe you should list those graphic intensive apps on the symbian vs android thread cos I'm tired of hearing senseless talk. BTW, What does the size of an app have to do with its functionality? Whether small or large, I need an app that functions.


The problem with you is that android has made you believe that you need at least 1gb of ram for a device to run smoothly. Well to clear your doubt, check out these videos
http://m.youtube.com/watch?desktop_uri=%2Fwatch%3Fv%3DY-B7fAOUjqs&v=Y-B7fAOUjqs&gl=US
http://m.youtube.com/watch?desktop_uri=%2Fwatch%3Fv%3DhuWTi-9KUTY&v=huWTi-9KUTY&gl=US


You must be a novice to think that apple sells so much cos they offer very high specs.
Look back at when Samsung was still making symbian devices. They had much higher specs. But why do you think Nokia kept dominating the symbian market?
Now look at android. Almost all android phone makers apart from Samsung are either at a loss or making marginal profit. Do you think galaxy series sell so much cos they are too highly speced? HTC one x ought is also well speced but why do you think its sales are poor in comparison to GSIII?
Even if apple decides to make the iphone 5 with thesame specs as 4s but with 756mb ram and a 4 inch screen, it would still be a massive hit.
You should go back and do your homework on what makes people buy phones.


The problem with you is that you think that because a device has 2GB ram and is quad core then it should be faster than a lower speced one. Have you ever heard of the word OS and how they differ?

The fact still remains that lumia 900 with 512mb ram is one of the smoothest devices available cos not every os needs quad core to run smoothly.


In conclusion, it seems you believe so much in what you read and not in everyday usability. And you also believe in that GSIII is the best phone cos its very highly speced. Well I will leave you with your naive beliefs.

aze: Since u dont knw, check JUST 3 HEADLINES BELOW

AFTER 3 MÖNTHS,

Nokia Halves
Price of Flagship
Phone
Wall Street
Journal - Jul 20,
2012

Less Than 3 weeks Again

Nokia Lumia 900
fire sale? Prices
slashed to $
19.99 at
Amazon and
AT&T
The Examiner -
Jul 24, 2012



Recent price
drop of Nokia
Lumia 900 4G a
sign of weak
sales?
Technology
Bloom News - Jul
21, 2012


. Three months and with all the 250 million dollars marketing budget, all Lumia phones (900, 610, 710, 800) sold 4 million including the dashed out copies in North America, 600,000 lumias were sold.

Samsung Galaxy S3 sold 10 million in less than 2 months.

What has the price of the phone got to do with its quality? You're seriously running out of facts, but let me make something clear to you.

Microsoft gives nokia $250 million ($1 billion yearly) every quarter in as support, also nokia does not pay royalties to use microsoft. Nokia also has alot of mobile patents. This simply means nokia price their phones at the cost price + gain which make them cheap. Now compare that to android devices which have to pay google, acquire patents from apple or nokia and also have no free cash.

Its an open secret that microsoft pays for most of the marketing of lumia as nokia partnering with them is their only chance at penetrating the mobile market.

Also, the fact that the current lumia wont be upgraded to wp8 coupled with the reasons above enables nokia to sell them for peanuts while also making some profit from them.


Comparing how many phones lumia sold to that sold by samsung galaxy is crazy to say the least.
Why don't you look at how many phones samsung galaxy sold 3 quarters after its release and you would see that its about half of this.

Finally, I really don't understand what price or number of units sold (esp for a new device) has to do with its quality. In that case, BB would be the best device for us since its the fastest selling smartphone in Nigeria.

aze: Thursday 10th of May 2012. 101 Reasons Not to Buy A Windows Phone 7.5 was published.

Talk anoda lie.



Comparing a ground breaking and legendary smart device with dumbphones like Lumia 900. Iphone is the REFERENCE SMARTPHONE and it is in a class of its own




Shameful as it may look, you join them in the game of numbers. How about this.

I sold 16 pairs of sandals in a school of 1926 kids despite huge marketing overhead and external support.

My two close competitor sold combined 1870 on preorder with little marketing..

I suspect the retailers don't want to push my product.

1. It depends on where you saw that article as its quite common online. I came across it long before I updated my phone to belle. So at most I would give it December or January.

2. I don't know how you got to the conclusion of iphone being in a class of its own. Maybe you could explain. Personally, I might even take the old GSII over 4s.

How many times will I say I'm not comparing the two devices. I'm just saying that you should understand the phones before comparing and not throwing lies up and down.

You should stick to what you can defend or how about telling me how lumia 900 is a dumb phone. The last time was about symbian apps and after 7 pages you were still blank.


3. I dont understand what you mean by me joining them in a game of numbers.
The fact is that the lumia series which is not upto a year old is doing very well especially if you consider its limited availability and that it won't be updated to wp8. Infact, in some markets its reached upto 15% use and is already affecting the sales of symbian and android.

Maybe you should go back in history and tell me how fast galaxy phones were sold 3 quarters after its release.

And for the record, it wz the 2nd fastest selling phone on AT&T for a full month which is quite impressive for a new phone.
Also everyone knows that nokia sucks at marketing their products and just recently started doing that.

Lastly, if you want to compare the phones (which I'm in no mood to do), you should take them in totality and give reasons not just saying some 'ground breaking king of smartphones' rubbish.

walcolm: @Jedisco,

i like the way you're trying to sound intelligent with those simple phrases you throw into your posts i.e see some of them in bold

since your longevity and specialist skills are based on reviews you have seen on the web then you need to know that those reviews are mostly paid for. why wont the Nokias multitask 10s of apps at the same time without any problem? most of the apps that run on NOKIA phones are less than 1MB in size, with only 512MB ram, you can run 50 apps without breaking a sweat. android apps are 10s of MB in size. there are android games that are more than 50MB you seldom find an app less than 2MB in the android store, before you multitask 10 of them you are breaking through more than 50% of available RAM for running applications

if you have been long enough in using smartphones, then you need to know that the only way to get value for the end-users is to compare phones, irrespective of SPECs or OS so that consumers can go to the manufacturer who gives them the most value for their money. Apple was able to become a best seller because the iPhone hardware and iOS was compared to all others on the market and Apple was found to provide the best user experience to the consumer at that time. that has now changed with the recent quadcore handsets hitting the market, Android ICS and now JB OS releases and will change even further when the BB10 gets released if the new iOS doesnt do something drastic

if NOKIA puts LUMIA 900 forward as their flagship, then it has to be compared to the flagship of all other manufacturers irrespective of the OS running on them. as it stands today, the Lumia or any phone running the Belle dont make the cut in everyday demand of the consumer because the standard they bring is low

I'm not trying to sound intelligent. I'm just telling you what I know.

I don't base what I say on reviews or specs sheet but on real life usability. Infact I've only read the full reviews of two phones- Nokia 701 and 808.

I don't know where you got that most nokia apps are less than 1mb in size, maybe the last nokia you used was in 2007 but that is wrong and unimportant.
What I was trying to say is that android is built in such a way that it requires much more ram to run smoothly. An app that may take 1mb while running on some platforms will take more than twice of that to run on android cos thats the way the os is.

On the issue of 50mb games, I'm not impressed. I wz expecting you to say 1gb to wow me. Like I said, the videos I wz referring to shows the phone running several HD games which are well over 100mb in size and a host of other apps, and still running smoothly.

Apple became so popular cos they were able to give the best user experience on a phone and not necessarily the best specs. All this talk about quad core means nothing to the average phone user. People want a phone that just works which is what apple gave. ios is still one of the best os around. The only problem is that its overpriced and not too flexible.
What I'm expecting you to say is whether the quad core htc one x is smother than other dual or single core 512mb ram devices. Afterall SGS III with dual core has proved to be smother and faster than the quad core one x.

I have no problem comparing lumia with other phones, but what I want you to do is to understand and interpret the specs.
You said the standard they bring is too low. But remember that the last time you were not able to prove that in 7 pages, so why not stick to what you can prove.

Lastly, if your every move at making the galaxy look superior is by attacking lumia, then you're just a fanboy. I expect you to put up the pros and cons of both.

aze: Guy 1 advice, search Google with this


101 Reasons Not to Buy A Windows Phone 7.5
actually it has been Updated to 121 Reasons Not to Buy A Windows Phone 7.5

I saw that when it came out sometime last year and I can tell you that 98% of it is rubbish. The remaining 2% are minor restrictions which are also present on other platforms like iOS.


The lumia series have managed to double sales quarter-on-quarter since its release from 1 to 4 million which no other phone achieved during their launch. This is quite impressive considering it has been only available in few markets.

So like I said, don't just read letters, understand and interpret them

walcolm: Dude, there's no comparison between the Lumia 900 and the GS3...if you really are not a novice then you will know that Lumia is not even mentioned when the top smartphones are being mentioned.

there are currently only 3 other phones that can compare in terms of specs to the GS3 and they all run android ICS.

Apple is waiting to bring iPhone 5 to get back in the game, BB is waiting for BB10 and Nokia is waiting for Windows8

oh btw, because a phone can run a different version on an app another phone can run doesnt mean they are comparable.
Lumia runs on a single core and has 512MB RAM, that is so 2010 for a phone released in May 2012

I don't want to derail this thread but like I said, if you want to compare 2 phones, take them in totality.

I've been long enough in the smartphone world to understand that its disastrous comparing two phones based just on specs (esp if they run a different OS) if you don't understand what those specs mean.

Take a look at iPhone 4s with 512mb ram. It has never been described as laggy. There is no android phone with similar specs that does not lag. You should understand that some OSes need much more resources to perform basic functions.
You should also see reviews of lumia 900 and they all described the UI as being very smooth and very comparable with iOS in terms of speed.

Look at htc one x, with 1GB ram and quad core but it still has real issues with multitasking. Then also look for videos of belle phones of 512mb ram single core multitasking tens of apps at once with so much ease.

When next you compare two phones, don't just read the specs but try and interpret them.
I could go on and give you phones of 5MP cameras which take better pics than others of 8MP, or some phones with a large capacity battery which doesn't last upto others with lower capacities. Or do you think that Nokia phones have a good battery life because they have the highest speced batteries?

In summary, I'm not here to state which phone is better. If you want to do that, then you should take the phones in totality and also interpret their specs not just doing a haggard job.

spikes C: Hmmm, highly appreciated. I am checking out the belle series, its been long i did mobile research. Web development has really killed my career for that side.

Same with me. It wz just abt the end of last year I came back to this phone stuff and I may soon loose interest. Well u should be a guru in web stuff