₦airaland Forum

pocohantas:
Elderly care is common in developed nations. UK own seems prevalent because they allowed mass immigration of Nigerians. A decision I am sure they regret. Some other countries might accept other African countries but Nigeria. Some might take 3rd world Asian countries. It is the same way we made a mess of UAE. These opportunities were there lowkey until Nigerians found out.

There are also poor European countries that cater for the big ones. They have enough Romanians and Bulgarians to do these jobs.

Surprised this is coming from you. It all reeks of inferiority.
If the UK, sees no problem attracting our few doctors, I see no reason why other Nigerians cannot seek to move. Except you are inferring that there's a higher class of Nigerians worth moving to the UK and a lower class only fit to remain back.

rinzylee:
There's a difference between identifying causes of divorce and enlightening people about it, and selling preparation for divorce. The former is preventive medicine and the other is therapeutic. If I know possible pitfalls, I would work on my character and adjust myself to serve my spouse better. Why not sell the positives of marriage and the benefits of a united home front. Why must it be the doom of marriage that would be sounded ??

I see patients who have been married for 60, 70 ,50 years and all I do after consultation is ask them for 2mins of advice on how to have such a healthy peaceful marriage. I don't go about preparing for divorce. I plan for the best of marriages. Let it be that I have done all and trouble springs up, then we can discuss the other side.

I am team it won't be my portion..Yes!

In all, you are yet to highlight the pros of marriage or means to sustain one. You can't force people to run your desired commentary.

Discussions so far have highlighted the laws of the land where we've come to reside. No one is asking married people to divorce. One shouldn't wait for troubles to spring up before learning these. You dont wait for a police officer tell you to use a sit belt.

Lastly, you make statements surprising of a medic. Oh doc, I know someone who was severely diabetic/hypertensive but refused medications, I also know someone who was a chain smoker for decades and continued despite medical advise. They both lived healthily to their 90's. OTOH, I know people who took meds and died of disease complications soon after. It's called annecdotes - not statistical or scientific evidence.

hustla:
Info lo n gbe eyan fo

Your journey in life and about everything else is dependent on people who you surround yourself with .

If you walk with 4 Dangotes, you'll likely be the 5th one or at the very least, a Femi Otedola

Hehe... no be even Otedollar.. even down to basic issues.

If a new immigrant asks their click about driving tests and their response is something in the line of 'this test is straightforward, you'd be asked to demonstrate what you already know- this is how you go about it...' that persons perception and experience would be much different from a clique where the first response is 'omo that test hard die'

A while back someone asked me about ielts, knowing his ability, I told him 2 weeks is enough time to prep. Guy was shocked and started relaying how people prep for months before taking it and still fail. Had to virtually force him to still register. After it all he returned and was like.. this exam no hard finally.

Perception is important.

triplo3:
100% agree.

Is that why oyibos do “partners” instead? Does it offer them any protection different from married folk? In terms of house and pensions etc.

True.. but its more tricky for those on visas moreso if your other half is back home

Phil46:
Hi guys

Please what's the process of obtaining a Tier 2 worker Visa as a teacher from Nigeria? A friend with extensive years of experience as a teacher in Nigeria is considering the option. Please how does he start the process?

I did some research and found that one must have a job offer first. Please has anyone successfully gotten an offer from Naija as a teacher? Will appreciate any information I can get on this. Thanks

There is a route for teachers which is still fairly new. Might be worth exploring that before it becomes oversaturated. Initially coming over as a carer or for masters should make eventually getting on the teacher route easier.

Raalsalghul:
Quick question: what if the mortgage is in the man's name only?

Does it mean he has to move out if the judge grants custody of the kids to the woman?

Just thinking about different scenarios here.

Others have answered but to add, even your pension earned after marriage is not spared. Na why before you marry, u look well. Also, u have the advantage of being a dual citizen.

rinzylee:
Abeg oooo enough.... make we no dey condition mindset for marriage breakup here ...abeg nah .... We will have good sustainable marriages in Jesus Name. Amen.

Amen and Amen.
'Its not my portion' mentality. No be so?
Well the UK divorce rate sits between 40- 50% with some skew. So statistically, its either you get divorced or others do. What would help is understanding the reasons marriages end in divorce and trying to mitigate against those and the larger impact of divorce if it sadly happens. Burying ones head in sand no be the solution.

hustla:
Please go for the IT Engineering one and avoid those ones saying health care assistant now and later in life. A lot of people in the UK are dabimoseda FC and they have the capacity to twist your orientation to match theirs. I have heard people saying "Oyinbo no dey give Nigerians jobs apart from care worker" and you wonder where they get that mentality from when a colleague who came into the UK less than 1 month ago has already gotten a Senior DevOps role that pays £85K.

People often can not see beyond their noses and came into the UK with very little plans to rise beyond where they are and you need to be careful how you interact with them.

All the best

People largely underestimate what impact their clique can have on how quickly they settle and rise. Its same case even for those in regulated professions with fairly defined pathways.

If you come in and those in your circle quickly sorted their driving, mortgage, good jobs e.t.c. Those things would all of a suddenly become well achievable. Perception is everything.

For many, when it comes to getting on the housing ladder, schools, investments, pensions, job prospects e.t.c. it's largely dependent on what your clique has achieved.

Niyijac:
Gurus in the house... Can someone buy the NGX30, NGX50 and other indices directly from the stock broker? How does this work in the long term? Are they dividend centric? or just price appreciation.
Thanks in advance

Asked about this recently and it seems there's none.
Generally, this is now the stressfree and dependable route to go. As with time, very few active investors actually beat the underlying index. One doesn't bother about end of year accounts e.t.c. as the market woud do its thing. Its good diversification and one can have exposure to global markets in a proportionate and cheap manner such that your retirement is not dependent on one country or a few companies.

milliondollarma:
Pls guys how do I convert my naira to dollars.... My naira is worthless right now.

Hehe... u are 3 years late... I remember an article 2 yrs ago that showed the naira had devalued by an average of about 10% yearly (roughly) for over 20yrs...

Its deja vu.. the CBN would soon intervene forcing a strong pullback and the naira with balance for a while before depreciating further (if the right things are not done)

Seen thesame thing play out at 350, 500, 750, and 950
1000 was a tought nut to crack but once broken, I knew further depreciation would be quick and brutal.. sadly, we might inevitably be looking at 1500 if CBN does not jump in soon.

I ask myself, is the current government reaping the results of its own actions or results of action of the past administration?

Viruses:
What should one look out for when buying a new build?

Also, those houses close to the road, that the door is close to footpath, does passing cars really disturb? I'm looking at either that type or one at the end of a close. I feel the one at the end of a close will be too quiet because it's not facing any houses, just facing a field/park.

Finally why are rooms in new builds too small. Infact I see those 3 bedrooms houses as 2 and half bedrooms.

You have to weigh what the park would be like.. noise, parking, visibility e.t.c. Traditionally, well planned houses on a close tend to be more sought after as they are more quiet and private. Oddly, it seems you prefer more noisy areas.

New houses are smaller but if flexible, you'd find relatively spacious well built ones which would come at a prenium.

Estroller:
Bolded: With a stable Naira probably yes, but the current state of the Naira will make it very difficult to do especially for many in the diaspora whose capital is in Forex, this makes Naira devaluation a major criteria to consider.

True.. not just currency stability but also main indicators like economic growth and inflation rate. A developing nation moreso a large and strategic one like Nigeria would always have untapped potentials but with higher investment risks. Many Indian diasporeans have got good returns investing back home mainly cos their currency has been stable and growth better than the west. I would want our indices to improve before I start thinking home.

For the time being, a SIPP, LISA or ISA invested in a globally diversified tracker is tax efficient and 'stress-free' for me with returns historically averaging 6-7% pa overtime. Outside emotional home bias, whatever local investment I'm making should beat that.

Goke7:
talking about apartheid in SA, despite the support Nigeria gave SA against the west, it's far easier to get a visa to come to the UK today than it is to get a SA visa, sometimes one must have a long-term perspective of giving support all in the name of humanity, it was the support Nigeria gave SA that began even the harsh immigration policy of Uk to Nigeria where Nigerians born in the UK stopped getting citizenship immediately. What has been the benefit of SA to Nigeria today compared to the UK, let's be honest, I rather protect my interest first than prove solidarity anywhere especially when I can't predict tomorrow. The world is a complete jungle, one must give support with sense and with a long term perspective, If you're a citizen already in the UK, congratulations but for those with visas, they should thread carefully.

Are you saying your take on aparthied is that we should have supported it so as not to offend the UK? I.e for the opportunity of being looked on favourably by the UK, you would excuse apartheid? You really think you'd fare on well as an African person in the UK if a major African nation was still under an apartheid regime? Regarding UK citizenship by birth, that's a whole different issue which is unrelated. It was ended for a different set of reasons.


Countries make immigration policies based on national interest. You are either here on a work or study visa not on a diversity visa or you won a lottery or the UK wants more Nigerians here. Prior to any visa category being approved, there must be a clear indication that it'd benefit the UK more.
The relatively increased number of Nigerians migrating here today as against the 90s is not out of want but necessity. Remember Brexit only just happened. To her merit, the UK is quite diverse and there is a growing realisation among the populace that to sustain some of the social safety nets of time past, there is need more working residents. But the point here is the day your visa need stops being needed, it's the day it's culled. Countries with stricter visa rules have a different reality or expectation.

missjekyll:
You thought this and wrote it on a public forum for all to see.

Glorying in the Slavetrade?Really?

This is hate speech and will get you banned from any public forum in the developed world with criminal charges.

But I guess anything goes on nairaland. How disgusting

Hello to Everyone else, Last i heard Ahib was found to have been telling lies about his wealth? Did i hear right?

Sister, abeg leave the unhinged fellow alone - he's gone past saving. Funny thing is that the chap is question is a Kogite... but always eager to gum body.

It's those that frolic upto him I question. They said if you're giving me advise, other things you do don't matter. Tomorrow, an African would glorify slave trade and say afterall, they thought us english.

I remember when he and others would chorus folks should not migrate because of racism abroad. The worst form of discrimination I've encountered was as a Nigerian living in Nigeria. Just compare NL to Reddit or Twitter and see. Most of the slurs normalised here are things that'd bring one a lifetime ban elsewhere.

Migration... migration... since when?

P.S. I can't see the Nigerian flag.. Maybe the foreign affairs dept of the Benin empire/Kano emirate e.t.c issued the imperialists a work visa

missjekyll:
Where did i say "disgusting " ? I wouldn't use that word about an opposing political ideology.

As to changing political leanings ,Growth is great and can occur indirectly( reading others experiences) or directly( personal experience) . Either way is acceptable. I m a huge fan of immigration because i know its a force of nature. It cannot be stopped. Why break yourself trying? Welcome the stranger

Hehe... I love this. Man has always been a migratory being
I remember telling someone recently that given I’ve never met a native American, I have never met an American who wasn't a migrant. At what point did folks who emigrated from Europe to Australia, NZ, America, SA become natives?
Funnily Americans and Brits would call themselves 'expats' when they migrate but others 'immigrants' when they come over.

Recently stumbled upon this video by a former Greek minister who captures the whole concept of recent human migration so eloquently


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WPVBjDrLjfQ

Goke7:
Honestly am shocked to see what folks post online, make people get sense o, not all personal views should be posted. The West whether we like it or not still dictates things globally, if you desire visas or permanent status, you can’t be posting stuff against their allies or in support of their enemies.

It's difficult to see what your post is driving. We should not be more Catholic than the pope.
Freedom of speech is a strong principle in modern western societies. That is because they rightly do not want a society where everyone thinks alike. Your aired opinions are protected as far as not illegal.
Virtually every other freedom we enjoy today e.g freedom to vote, freedom to own property, freedom from slavery and women's rights e.t.c all came about because people stood rightly against entrenched ideas. Many westerners today regret their support for Iraq/Afghanistan wars and today believe they shouldn't have been hoodwinked to belive what the media told them.

LionInZion:
Yea, the reason why I posted it here. I've seen people arguing for and against, just as in the case of Russia-Ukraine. Personally, I would rather mind my business in all these international politics and crises than put my mouth in what I have little or no knowledge of, except what the media feeds us.

Freedom of expression means freedom of expression.

P.s irrespective of where you stand on the Israel/Gaza issue, it'd take alot of knee bending to overlook the apartheid visited on Palestinians. This time, even mainstream British media is circumspect. I wonder what you would say if questioned about the apartheid regime in SA which western allies supported at the time.

PoliteActivist:
I already have my plane tickets o, and been planning my life in Canada oo!
Didn't think I'd actually land the job at all! 500K a month plus housing, car, health and life insurance benefits.
Why is life always like this??!! In serious dilemma what to do

First, when asking for advise- know the right demography to ask or keep the demography in mind when reviewing answers.

If you ask an average person earning 30- 150k, they'd say stay back cos your average pay is like heaven to them. If you ask folks earning 500k - 1m, they'd see things differently cos 500k is not mind-blowing money for the right skill.

You need to consider a number of things- mainly age, qualifications, flexibility and transferable skills. Also if your current job would permit remote working.

If you were young with tech skills and a Canadian PR, I'd easily say move- 500k is peanuts to what you could potentially earn in Canada. The people shouting tax e.t.c are mainly folks who've not worked/lived elsewhere.

In your case, your canada visa is a visit visa which would not allow you work legally. If this job has good prospects and exposure, then it could be a good stepping stone to bigger things locally or give you the right base to apply for remote tech jobs in Canada, a Canadian masters or PR. You always have the option of visiting Canada later.

Details given are rather sketchy with many important variables unclear.

Ebubu:
Ebonyi State New Government House, Abakaliki

I thought you guys are the first son of Igbo land? Why are you building your own after Ebonyi State have built their own and equipped and started using it?

We lead, you follow.

Ebubu:
Ebonyi state infrastructure is the best in South East.

No need of this nonsense comparison. Both have bigger fish to fry. e.g the state of roads or over 100,000 out of school children in the SE which is unacceptable in this day and age.

Learn to hold your elected leaders to global standards and not go jubilating when they nit pick the most basic reason of why they are paid.

hustla:
Seems Scotland is generally terrible for student /part time jobs

Someone was lamenting to me about it earlier this year. Not sure why it's like that

I believe it's due to smaller towns/ cities with less economic footprint. Also not as connected as England. Students are limited in how far they can go moreso with the 20hr cap. Wales seems better

Kingkom:
Abeg anyone with link to cleaner jobs, care assistant jobs or even factory work around Glasgow or Dundee area. Na beg I dey beg. We have been applying through indeed and not even one interview yet. A month now and nothing, the little we came in with is fast going down.

If you don't have to be in those two places, might be worth looking at smaller towns as they tend to have much less competition though with fewer jobs.

Naijapensioner:
Please how can a Nigeria train staff nurse/midwife already in the UK as a student dependent get a specialize training in mental health or acute care?

I'm not aware of the full nitty gritty but there are licensing exams to be sat. With medical fields, the pathways are pretty much out in the open. He/she could reach out to colleagues already practicing. Also, there is a NL page for nurses looking to emigrate to the UK which has good breadth of knowledge.

Jeff0983:
Please guys
Does anyone know any cheap hotel in Abuja close to the UK biometric center and where I need to stop ( closest bus stop to the venue of the biometric center ) when coming from the East.

Booking(dot)com... some pretty good deals there... also, u know what you're getting

Raalsalghul:
Thank you very much for that detailed explanation.

So basically, a civil partnership is better?

It depends... they all have their pros and cons.

But if you're getting married in a society which has a divorce rate of over 40% (that's aside bitter unions), it goes eithout saying that it's important to understand the reasons why divorce is so common and how to prevent and mitigate it's impact should it occur. Unfortunately, the 'it's not my portion' approach does many people in.

Makamatic:
Sir What if they are no kids and you don't have mortgage

Accumulated wealth/pension post marriage is split. It goes both ways and you guys would need to be married for a reasonable period before 50:50 fully applies. In reality, if you're skint your partner would be less bothered and want to move on..

Raalsalghul:
@ the bold.

How true?

I can understand the child support but the mortgage?

Really?

Does that happen?

Divorces here are no joke especially when there's a good income difference and kids are involved.

Not a lawyer but for well established marriages, the target for a legal split is 50:50 of marital possessions. Even your pensions and isa accumulated after marriage are not exempt.

To the house, though there might be a 50:50 equity split awarded, priority is always given to the kids. The kids will usually be allowed to stay in the house moreso if they're established there.
Your partner might buy you out of the mortgage or you both can sell and go separate ways. If she refuses, it's very unlikely a Judge would give an order mandating sale when kids are involved. That means as the other partner, even though you may have 50% equity in the house, you may not be able to sell until kids turn 18 or leave.

In the meantime, you would need to rent your place and banks will chase whoevers name is on the mortgage to keep up with payments. All this is aside child maintenance which goes primarily to the partner with main custody. If you're unlucky and have domestic violence pinned on you, another gbese as your alloted time might be culled. Of course, either of you can have a new relationship while all this is going on.

If you have good earning potential and a vast difference from your partner, a divorce can leave you wrinsed

BeckyB1:
Thank you very much for this response. God bless you for being so kind with your words.

Hang in there....

Fact is many coming in via care route would in 5 years be better off than the a good number paying thousands for masters. The introduction and success of psw has shown that the economic viability of many masters programmes is the 2 yr work opportunity they give. In the end, most migrants pay in search of a better life.
Also remember with care your visa fees are less, sponsorship more liberal and you don't have to pay IHS.

There are bottle necks, but know your strengths and leverage.
If married, you can seek any sponsored role job in the NHS. The NHS has good maternity leave allowance and pay. Most of your 5 years (before ilr) could be spent on mat leave. Your partner OTOH, would have the free room to work wherever. With certain roles, he could set up and work via a limited company which is significantly more tax efficient when planned well.

If single, maximise that and don't be hesitant to move (even outside). Most masters students would pick up jobs in the towns they live. You could move to other counties with more need. Irrespective of the poor pay, with care you can work virtually unlimited hours with your main sponsor - an opportunity many other roles lack. You could target less stressful roles. The visa numbers might soon be culled and vacancies would reappear. Looks for ways to upskill- there are an increasing number of opportunities which keep opening up e.g teaching recently. You could work your way from a carer to a HCA to a nurse. Now, there is a push towards apprenticeship and folks can work as a HCA and at same time train to be a nurse (visa limitations might apply). In mental health, work is less and pay is more. You can better target your approach once in the system. Network and very importantly, have a driven clique of friends.

This country has opportunities. Target them.

PalestianIsrael:
Her visa is tied to mine and she would be shooting herself in the foot as well, maybe we’ll both go home. At this point, I can’t rule out anything from her. I have seen insanity face to face. So sad that I used to judge men in my position in the past, meanwhile the wife is literally instigating the violence by struggling, slapping, bringing knives (poking me with the knife) etc. and anything resulting from struggle/self-defence is called assault. It’s utterly ridiculous. I have minor cuts all over and my body is aching me from slaps and blows.

People have said alot and I hardly advise on relationship issues and hardly subscribe to auto divorce. But your story has alarm bells ringing.

But from your post, 4 things strike me
1. You are having significant issues this early which in this country would many times would get worse
2. It seems you guys are still newly married.
3. You have no kids
4. You are the visa sponsor.

The last 3 points are to your advantage. The way you painted her black without taking standing up to where you got it wrong makes me think you lack insight and I wonder about compatibility. No need claiming right. You cannot live with everyone but you can salvage whats left and learn lessons for the future. You don't want to end up with a life of misery possibly paying a mortgage for a house you don't live in aside your own rent and then child support for your kids while your ex-wife is boyfriending with another. Of course, regretting everyday the day you met her.

You need to make a decision quick and until then, avoid making kids. If you split now, she would need to look for another sponsor or get a visa herself. In the meantime until things are clear, moving out might be a better option, keep evidence discretely and definitely avoid hitting her.

In summary, if e no work, take a walk. You might not get a better opportunity.

BeckyB1:
I wish home office can change the 20 hours a week rule for those whose sponsors do not have any shift to give.

A sponsor brought people in with an offer letter of 40 hours a week shift but ended up having no job to offer. She even told this people to pay her £150 for an online care certificate training link.

Many care homes and agencies that have jobs are not willing to give more than 20 hours a week shift to those who are on Tier 2 sponsorship.

They change it from time to time. During covid, it was relaxed. Later brought back and relaxed again until end of August.


Paying for COS is not advisable but from an economic standpoint, I hardly see the difference between that and loads of people who pay much more for an obscure masters and then end up working in or paying for another COS in the care sector. Most Nigerians who pay huge sums for masters do that for the sole purpose of migration. From most, the direct care route would be a better option.

What you could do is try and target NHS HCA/support roles in acute or mental health Trusts that ere eligible for sponsorship. Also, might be worth checking if your original sponsor can second you to another agency with vacancies. The second agency then pays you through your sponsor.

Also see if you can use your free time to learn some trade that you could do as a side job for your 20hrs when you get an NHS sponsored role. In the end, you'd be allright.

hustla:
Agent clearly doesn't know what he is doing. Marriage cert from registry is sufficient unless its arranged marriage and you guys want to prove beyond any suspicious doubt

Seems there's been a recent change in documents needed.

In addition to marriage cert, they now ask of additional evidence of continued relationship for a goven period.

MonkeySee:
It's £10 to notarise 3 documents.

Walk into any law firm or UK post office to get it done. That's what I did

Hmm.. that's very cheap. Was it notarised by a notary public?

Cost me £140 for 2 docs which needed a notary public

SoNature:
As reported by WeeTracker, Boampong was earning $50,000 per month and allegedly diverted at least $8 million.


The Black man cannot accountably manage huge money. This is why purely black countries are a big mess!

You reek of inferiority complex and self hate. There are poorly run companies in any part of the world. This could have easily been another race and your ignorant head will keep mute.

Mindlog:
You lie!

Job roles have wages/salaries attached to them, whoever scales through the recruitment process, gets paid that irrespective of nationality.

I get paid the same as my Britsh colleagues for the same job role.

He's just repeating combulated stuff. Doubt he's seen an airport.
Would be difficult to understand that some of the bigotry we see as normal here wouldn’t be entertained elsewhere. The first minister of England, Scotland, many senior MPs, mayor of London e.t.c all have immigrant parents. Meanwhile in Nigeria we're still arguing if Nigerians should return to their village or not