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Kobojunkie:
I am not one bit suspicious of the west . . . if anything, I am the west that people blame for all the problems in Africa. Yet, I am also an African, and my eyes are open enough to see that Africa's main problem is not the west but the fact that the african people only pretend to care but will make up the most absurd just so they can again avoid tackling the issue head on . . . case and point . . . the re-election of the same group of touts, we complained for over a decade, were bad to us, just this april.

lol. I don't even think we are talking on the same wavelength.

PS: what do you think about the US blaming the middle east for terrorism. why didn't you guys just blame yourselves?

virgo:
@Jenifa, violent may have been sarcastic with the last comment you replied to.  .

As for the multinationals infiltrating government, it is quite pathetic. It is for this same reason that Allison Madueke may not return to government for daring to promote the PIB bill. Our leaders are the worst stooges on earth. Now, you see how easy it is for the West to acquire lands in Africa with a bottle of Johnnie Walker and three claps. Lol.

yea I knew he was being sarcastic.
I was just pointing out the irony that most nigerians don't even think that way. it would have been better if we actually thought that way.
imagine even our educated Ngozi Nwela. I was embarrassed hearing her giving a speech where she was using an analogy of western countries as our 'parents' and we as the 'children'. how can you stand up to western exploitation if you consider westerners to be your parents? 
and when the whole paternalistic mentality has been internalized in us.

Kobojunkie:
You are asking the right questions and I believe, we all know the answers. Only we force ourselves around the "mumu de" cycle, at least one more round, when we pretend it is the fault of the "foreigners".

only a few nigerians think that way. majority don't.
if a lot of nigerians were suspicious of the west, do you think we would be selling our soul to them?

violent:
true talk o my sister.  this Oyinbo people self, dem just like to dey exploit us sha, God no go gree for them!. . .the spirits of our ancestors no go allow make dem rest!. . .kai!!! which kain nonsense self.

We must fight this o. . . .you and me together, we go fight kon save mother africa commot from dia hand!

Lailai to slave trade. . .na 21st century be this!!

ironically, the average nigerian does not think this way and that is partially why nigeria is the way it is today.
the average nigeria will lick any white man or woman's butt and not recognize the source of exploitation when it is staring them in the face.
even our leaders are #1 puppet to the west.

imagine western companies finding it so easy to infiltrate government ranks and turning national decisions in their favor. that is mumu to the highest order because I don't know what else it could be.  i'm talking about the wikileaks thing

which one is Gatwick Airport? how many foreign airports did we buy?

If you look at the title of the post you will see that the first line is "Africa is Mumu Inc"
to me that is the most important line in relation to this topic.
basically the argument is that we are allowing western countries to exploit us. and not rising up to resist it. why?
why aren't we resisting the land grabbing? why are we letting history repeat itself?

virgo:
1st bolded - Sure, I am mad at them for being naive.

2nd bolded - Bow my head in shame? Lol. Child please, , Africans are being exploited left right and center. And since when do you need guns these days to manipulate people. Honey, it just takes a clear ink and a cunning mind.

3rd bolded - Africans have always been/and are vulnerable to the financial policies of the former colonial masters and current world powers. Yes, they are hoodwinked at every turn.

4th bolded - The shooting of black workers in Zambia by their Chinese "owners" on 19 Oct 2010/ the abandoning of 72 passengers fleeing Libya in late March this year by NATO forces claiming to be in Libya for "humanitarian reasons" and many other incidences clearly illustrates my point. Good for you that you have not encountered any kind of treatment that will make you feel like a vermin, but I have met and argued with an American who believes that wars in Africa are necessary for population control. There is nothing about the African that the average Westerner respects, and I don't need to be shot by the Chinese, abandoned at sea, or killed in a war created by greedy Western capitalists to know what whites think of blacks.

5th bolded - Who created the financial world crisis? Just like the West to create a problem and turn around to reap from it.

6th bolded - It is a well known fact that these corrupt corporations deal with corrupt leaders to cheat Africans. Africa has never been blessed with good leadership, so what government are you talking about?

perfectly put.

sometimes when I think about it, many nigerians were probably ok with colonization and the idea of having a queen and chance to get a western education etc. just the same way many of us today are complacent with the exploitation that is going on on our lands and oil reserves.
it is only the future generations that will look back and wonder 'why did they let that happen to them'

I think it's just the human character that sometimes we don't see the big picture because it's too close-up in front of us. it is only when the picture is a bit far away in history that we can properly put it into perspective.

but should we keep letting history repeat itself? can't we see the tell tale signs and hints in the picture we have in front of us now?

can't you find a more legal means to be in the US or return home?i'm sure 50k is plenty enough capital to start something at home.

how was the poll conducted anyway?
i'm sure virtually everyone in southern nigeria believes in witchcraft. i'm not sure abt the north.

tom28:
Deal with what?
That i find Bach attractive?, lol
Take a look at her isnt she hot?

of course she was attractive when she was younger.
I don't know how old she is now but she looks like she is in her late 40s.
her granny face reminds me of liz benson

If these Africans are not intelligent enough to produce enough food to feed themselves, (for some reason, famines over the last 10 - 20 years mostly occur in Africa), then they should make way for those who can.

buzugee:
dunno why yall africans are posessive anyway. tis not like yall using the land for anything sef.

anybody who has a common sense will look at these two foolish posts above and wonder what the posters were smoking. 

for me, I blame our leaders. because they are the one who let this happen. they are the ones who seize lands from commoners and sell them to foreign investors.

this has been around for a while. The only new story here is that the supposedly liberal vestiges aka universities are d ones involved in it. as opposed to your usual coorporate companies.

https://www.nairaland.com/nigeria/topic-422469.0.html
http://www.nytimes.com/2010/12/22/world/africa/22mali.html

Seun:
Most African countries will just seize the lands back at the slightest provocation, so there's no risk really.

are you being sarcastic or what?  
just like we seized our lands back after a whole century of colonization abi?
and how the ppl living in niger delta region have seized their land back from the western oil companies.

this your obsession with capitalism is getting out of hand pa.

queend:
Majority of her friends have advised her to abort the baby.

that is what I would also advice her to do.

tom28:
I am not taking it personal but just speaking my mind and come to think of it i recall another nigerian girl attacking me on another thread when i also said Geneieve Nnaji is a beautiful lady.Whats the beef between u girls and female nollywood stars?
You dont see us naija guys getting mad when u say u are attracted to male nollywood stars like Jim Iyke or Van Vickers.

ah what should I do with you.
all I can say is that u need to deal with it.
celebrities won't exist if women weren't around to dish out critiques. abi i lie?

lol @ fumi

looks japanese to me. not yoruba

na wa o. una still dey hia

hmm

what a dunce.
maybe u can ask your father how he dealt with your mother's "black female characteristics"

my dilemma is I don't think I have the patience anymore to deal with some black female 'characteristics'

just change your church. finding the right church (with a good pastor) is very difficult but once you find one, you'll be fine.
and you can try devotional books, home fellowships, online resources. you shouldn't always rely on sunday services.

it's one thing to be attracted to the money as a gigolo but it's another thing to be actually attracted to cellulite and wrinkles.
nobody is criticizing your morality. it's just your taste that i'm making fun of. jeez why r u taking it so personal sef

who put this stupid post on front page?

and since when have Nigerian men started training children. I thought it was supposed to be the "women's job"

the sentence:
Marrying a girl with secondary school education alone is a recipe for disaster

the interpretation:
graduates should marry fellow graduates who have been trained by their respective fathers not marry and train.


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I am seriously supposed to get that interpretation?
hopefully you are not beating your wife at home for not interpreting your sentences correctly.

I'm sure God is not that kind of God who favors men over women.
maybe because you are selecting verses from the bible that suits your agenda to subdue women.

otokx:
This woman is indeed very wicked but again the man should have taking care of the situation a long time ago. There is no excuse for having two separate households. Marrying a girl with secondary school education alone is a recipe for disaster. The list can go on and on.

you are very correct. education does empower women. I hope God gives you the village illiterate househelp wife your heart desires.

Energy48:
However from the discussion, what I observe you Jenifa fail to take on board is; it is a thousand times worse thing to do, for a women to ruin a man's life with LIES. Even in the Bible, God commands women who do this should be put to death.

I think we have different view points.
maybe you are muslim or follow sharia law where women are stoned to death (you will notice that it is the women who are punished more often than men!)
I believe in Jesus who came and died for our sins so that what you just said belong more in the old testament or for the muslims.

God does not condone violence.
I don't see how the woman ruined the man's life with lies if he is the one who keeps coming back to her. he married a new wife and divorced her in 6 months and came back to his old wife. did she jazz him?

besides he could have sent her packing if the house belonged to him. he didn't have to hit her. that is the problem I have with this. the physical violence.

I know you live in the UK. so you know how society operates there. compare that to Africa and don't you just want to go back to africa where men live like kings and women like slaves? 

anyways goodnight. try not to become a wife-beater. if you already are, make sure to change your ways. or get a DIVORCE.

Energy48:
Touchy! Touchy!!

LOL! Calm down dear!

I think this is a serious topic that should be taken seriously.
this is a common place incident in Nigeria with men beating up their wives. and it never gets in the news.
I think we ought to be more civilized and definitely less violent.

I mean I know part of the problem is psychological. African men have learned from childhood to be violent against women because they see their fathers doing it and other men doing it. but do you want to raise the future generation in that way?

[quote author=fresh_dude link=topic=679613.msg8431724#msg8431724 date=1306916147]Sadly we live in a world where an accusation is all it takes to tarnish a man's reputation, never mind that he hasn't given his own account of what really went down. Oh,the stench of feminism.[/quote]that stench of feminism is what Africa needs right now more than anything. where 1 out of 3 women are being beating by sadistic men and rap.ed by the hundreds everyday.

Ambassador Wigwe must be a very patient and good man. In light of the new evidence, this is precisely the sort of woman I would have long executed (discreetly) if I were in his miserable shoes. Nonsense.

you are African man so I do not doubt you for a second. I just feel bad for the poor victim that will you way.

Energy48:
The man being DUMB in staying with his wife, after all he alleged about her, is quite obvious for all to see. But that is not the point under discussion; is it?

i don't think the man is dumb at all.  he clearly beat her up not kiss her feet like he seem to be telling us in his "story"
I think the dumb one is,  

pro01:
The truth is that is it ALMOST IMPOSSIBLE to see a good woman battered for no/flimsy reasons by their husband. The rest are either eminently qualified for such battery,

and this is coming from a poster I thought was respectable.
so women ought to be good subservient or be battered.  
there are levels of qualification now for battery and domestic abuse against women?
just wow.

I am quite amazed at some of the responses here. The strong current of misogyny is truly disgusting and disheartening.

I feel the same way. makes me realize how badly African women are suffering back home.

THERE IS NO JUSTIFICATION TO AN ASSAULT OR BATTERY,

Thank you!! there shouldn't be any excuse for it.
imagine one poster saying. she probably wasn't a good cook or she didn't play her role as a woman and therefore the husband was rightfully angry with her.

Energy48:
Actually Jenifa, that part of the story about him not being allowed into his house and seeing his children is sooo true here in the UK. The situation of a woman coming up with all kinds of allegations and banning the man from the house and stopping him seeing his children is common like the air we breath in the UK.

For you to doubt what is common knowledge about the UK is is just unbelievable.

try to read the post thoroughly before commenting. ok?
his wife banned him from entering his house and seeing his kids, he left her and married someone else. after 6 months he left that one and then "Following my nomination as ambassador in September 2007, I called Mrs Wigwe on phone to offer her an olive branch and to ask her to join me, if she so wished, to associate with my new appointment. "

doesn't that sound very foolish to you?
a woman who you claim kicked you out and is a devil in disguise, you left your new wife and called her back to "extend an olive branch"?

is that common in the UK too? hehn?

it is obviously a concocted story

I'm just really glad that he has being relived of his position.

like most posters have said (even though they sided him), he sounds dumb . ex.he says he married a loud obnoxious woman because her nature complimented his own gentle caring personality.  
then he said that he wife cheated on him and barred him from entering his house and seeing the kids kids but then went back to her after he became an ambassador to honor her. does that make any sense?  

to me, the story is concocted and I do not really care what the surrounding circumstances are.
bottom line is that I am not an advocate of domestic violence.

you can divorce if you don't like her. but don't lay your hands on your spouse period.

snthesis:
some serious jazz at work- d woman must be paying top dollar

abi o. either the woman jazz him. or he's making up the story

tom28:
I love her face,legs,thighs and everything about her and did i mention she"s hot

I hope you are joking. she looks like she's in her late 40s. how old are you again? 22?