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Christianity EtcRe: Catholic Church Knows That Muslims Are Paradise Bound by JeSoul(f): 1:25pm On Aug 05, 2008
[quote author=~Lady~ link=topic=156959.msg2610420#msg2610420 date=1217908612]I now know you lack basic and simple english of the fact that there it is saying that Muslims profess to hold the faith of Abraham and that they also profess that together with Christians they adore the one, merciful God, and mankind's judge on the last day.

So I suggest you go back to school and ask for your money back. Because you lack the basic skill of understanding english.

You may not realise that professing and possessing are different things. Jesus himself let us know that there are those who will profess to be believers in him, but do not actually believe in him or was Jesus lying?

are you serious? do i need to start english language class here? do you really need to go back to school to comprehend english? you know what i didn't want to believe it, but now with you and david as evidence, i do believe that the education system in naija has failed.

define profess for me, please. infact let me give it to you along with that of possess

Profess: to lay claim to, often insincerely; pretend to: He professed extreme regret.
2. to declare openly; announce or affirm; avow or acknowledge: to profess one's satisfaction.
3. to affirm faith in or allegiance to (a religion, God, etc.).

Possess: to have as belonging to one; have as property; own: to possess a house and a car.

Now they may profess or claim that they are worshippers of the same God, but that does not in anyway mean that truly the allah they claim is actually the one we claim. Get it now.

I can easily come to you and profess that I am an accountant, but does that mean that I actually possess an accounting degree? No.

So get your heads out of ridiculing the Church because you can't. Time and time again you will make a fool of yourself as you have already done and shown to everyone how little you know of your own belief or the origins of it.

for yor information i'm very aware of what Pope John Paull II said. So because he said that I should leave the Church? If we all go by every word that comes out of the mouth of our pastors, I guess we should all have left Christianity then eh. Whatchu think?

do not for one minute think that i am you or david, i am not. just because i have a problem in my family does not mean that i will abandon my family. that is what it means to be one as Christ spoke of. you as protestants are very much like the prodigal son, you go out looking for greener pastures trying to deny your identity only to fail and feel unhappy, but are too prideful to return home. so you lead yourself to believe that you are right and you know better than everyone and you have convinced yourself right down into obsession.

I will pray for you, that your souls find peace.


You know what I will continue to be a Catholic, because I know that we actually teach what Christ taught. That salvation is open to everyone. That we will not pass judgment on others, especially since we do not know what tomorrow holds.
Let me ask you this. If a muslim tomorrow converts from islam to christianity, should they be turned away because the plan of salvation does not include them?
the plan of salvation includes everyone, everyone can be saved, but it doesn't mean that everyone will be. as long as there's a tomorrow there is a plan of slavation. God's plan does not end.

Be careful not to insult God and his mercy, in your quest to bash Catholics.[/quote]"Discussing" with you is pointless. You are all emotion and no substance. What have I or anyone said that is "bashing" catholics? a simple quote was stated and asked to be explained, everyone else on this thread and your pope included reads and understands it clearly but you go on an emotional rampage crying persecution and bashing. . . I'm done with you since you cannot seem to partake in honest and genuine discourse.

@topic,
Please are there any other real catholics around who care to honestly explain this quote?
Christianity EtcRe: Catholic Church Knows That Muslims Are Paradise Bound by JeSoul(f): 12:59am On Aug 05, 2008
davidylan:
Miss, sometimes one wonders if you do comprehend the things you read or you're just so resistant to the truth.

Now please read that catechism and try so hard not to be a hypocrite about it. Note the highlights -

[size=14pt]The Church's relationship with the Muslims. "The plan of salvation also includes those who acknowledge the Creator, in the first place amongst whom are the Muslims; these profess to hold the faith of Abraham, and together with us they adore the one, merciful God, mankind's judge on the last day."[/size]

Together with who? anyone with half a brain shld be able to put two and two together. I rest my case.
I think it is the latter. . . how can anyone read that quote and twist it so much to try to say it means something else?  huh  unbelieveable.
Christianity EtcRe: Catholic Church Knows That Muslims Are Paradise Bound by JeSoul(f): 12:58am On Aug 05, 2008
[quote author=~Lady~ link=topic=156959.msg2609036#msg2609036 date=1217881684]Thank God that it said plan of salvation and not salvation itself. I guess that means that unbelievers cannot in anyway reach heaven, if the plan is not for them, I guess they cannot convert to Christianity then eh. Because clearly that's whatplan is.

I also thank God that it did not say these actually believe but that they profess. I always thought that in Christianity those who profess the name of Jesus are not actual followers of Jesus. But hey if because they profess it means that they are followers then I guess Jesus lied there.

*shakes head at the amount of people in christianity nowadays that cannot understand simple language they calim to understand*[/quote]wow lady you are really incapable of facing truth when its right in front of you. You're desperately trying to twist the quote from your catechism to mean something else. . . its ludicrous. To show you your folly here are your precious Pope's words himself affirming what the poster says, and what anyone who understands english gleans from that quote.

   
Addressing Muslim youths, the Pope said: 'We believe in the same God, the one and only God, the living God, the God who creates worlds and brings creatures to their perfection' (What Dialogue Means for Catholics and Muslims, US Conference of Catholic Bishops, http://www.usccb.org/seia/brunett.htm).
http://www.justforcatholics.org/islam.htm
you don't even know what your own church teaches, you exposed your ignorance here no be small.

Furthermore,

  in Nostra Aetate which is your churches official document on its stance towards other religions it says
3. About the Muslims
The Church regards Muslims with esteem: they adore the one God, living and enduring, the all-powerful Creator of heaven and earth who has spoken to people; they strive to obey wholeheartedly His inscrutable decrees, just as Abraham did, to whose faith they happily link their own.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nostra_Aetate
Christianity EtcRe: Catholic Church Knows That Muslims Are Paradise Bound by JeSoul(f): 7:53pm On Aug 04, 2008
David you try sef no be small. . .

  @posters, I know everyone's got[b] their own opinion [/b] on who'll be in heaven but lets make sure this thread does not stray from the original question which is why catholics try to convert muslims when their own 'scripture' teaches that both they and muslims serve the same god?

  I have asked this question in a different manner on previous threads myself but got the usual electric slide around the question. Any bold catholics willing to give a direct and straightforward answer?
We should debate and educate each other about the position of the Catholic Church on Muslims.

The Cathecism of the Catholic Church (CCC) paragraph 841 reads thus:

The Church's relationship with the Muslims. "The plan of salvation also includes those who acknowledge the Creator, in the first place amongst whom are the Muslims; these profess to hold the faith of Abraham, and together with us they adore the one, merciful God, mankind's judge on the last day."


CCC is the Catholic Church's doctrines and their intepretation of what the bible and their faith is all about. It is amazing that being Catholic also means believing that Muslims are destined for paradise, judging from the article above.  Meanwhile Catholic church member of little knowledge go around preaching to Muslims to convert.  I will have to ask 'Convert so that what?'  Since Catholic faith believes we are Paradise bound, I expect them to only praise Muslims and encourage them to continue in the path of Islam.
Christianity EtcRe: Catholic Church Knows That Muslims Are Paradise Bound by JeSoul(f): 6:59pm On Aug 04, 2008
You should move this topic to the main religion board where all the catholics are. . . me sef I would love to see the answers to this question.
Christianity EtcRe: Burning Incense by JeSoul(f): 6:33pm On Aug 04, 2008
huxley:
Well, strictly speaking I am NOT married but for intends and purposes I considered myself married and interested in NO other relationships.
hehe, so in essence[b] you lied  [/b] smiley  grin cool way back on that other thread allowing the participants to believe you were married to a christian hence your intrest in it.
SportsRe: Nba Starts For Heat Lovers Only by JeSoul(f): 7:27pm On Aug 01, 2008
doyin13:
A-40, give it up mayne. . . .
those Mavs ain't in the picshurr.

@Jesoul

Manny's gone. What say you?
I miss him already cry and I wish him well . . . redsox management will realize they made a big mistake come Red October. I guess they felt like Manny wasn't going to play hard and devoted during the next couple of crunch months as they hunt for a playoff spot. But I bin dey hear say this Jason Bay is a huge talent. . . time will tell.
SportsRe: Nba Starts For Heat Lovers Only by JeSoul(f): 7:16pm On Aug 01, 2008
onyinye2:
Who cares about those sorry Mavs.
grin LOL . . . A-40 you cannot allow her to get away with this . . . lol grin
Christianity EtcRe: Burning Incense by JeSoul(f): 3:42pm On Aug 01, 2008
rampant:
THANK YOU jesoul kiss
HUXLEY WHERE ON DIS PLANET EARTH ARE YOU,COME AND TELL ME WHY YOU LIED angry
my sista the guy is not to be trusted. . .
he once said he's become a deist calling it the "greatest conversion on NL"
https://www.nairaland.com/nigeria?topic=121005.msg2069483#msg2069483

then he said he was looking for a religion to join
https://www.nairaland.com/nigeria?topic=121034.msg2071667#msg2071667

  ah see as I don become detective for Nairaland  cheesy
  and then soon after he returned to bashing and ridiculing and discrediting christianity. I have seen through the facade of this character, appearing to be "seeking" answers but all he really wants is that good ol' thing called attention  cool
Christianity EtcRe: Burning Incense by JeSoul(f): 3:14pm On Aug 01, 2008
rampant:
LMAO cheesy cheesy cheesy r u serious?so atheists lie too grin

huxley where r u ?oya show face this minute angry
lol . . . yeah I'm not kidding. If anything I have a good memory. It was under one of his other alias' called "therationa" he's also used "tpaine" and one other ID I can't recall now.

  I just tried to do a search but I couldn't find where exactly he said it (perhaps someone did some "modifications" to his post  wink ) BUT I did come up with a quote where 4Him also known as Davidylan refered to him as married so it cannot be in my imagination  cheesy  hehe I KNOW he said it somewhere that he was married.
 
Therationa, it is not compulsory to be a christian. I am surprised that you are married to one with the level of hate that you keep inside.
https://www.nairaland.com/nigeria/topic-112751.0.html
Christianity EtcRe: Burning Incense by JeSoul(f): 2:59pm On Aug 01, 2008
rampant:
he said he aint married
I can almost swear he said he was married to a christian and that's why he has so much "interest" in christianity. It's too bad he has posted billions of topics, I for do a search and try to find his quote.
Christianity EtcRe: Burning Incense by JeSoul(f): 2:55pm On Aug 01, 2008
onyinye2:
He is not married. . . but i hope when he does God will find him first.
hmm are you sure? it would mean he was telling a fib on a thread a while back . . .
Christianity EtcRe: Burning Incense by JeSoul(f): 2:51pm On Aug 01, 2008
Missy B:
Dnt get angry bhut i jst want to understand sm tyns.

1-Are yhu married?
2-how old are yhu?

More ques coming bhut yhu can skip d ones yhu dnt want to answer
Huxley is married to a[b] christian [/b] lipsrsealed cool perhaps that's why he's so obsessively militant about discrediting christianity.
PoliticsRe: No More First Ladies In Nigeria by JeSoul(f): 8:50pm On Jul 31, 2008
Tonim:
We ask them to provide electricity and fix our roads, they are worrying about first ladies undecided
ROTFLOL grin cheesy

DeepZone:
Good question for these sexists here.
Me sef I am waiting for the answer. . .
SportsRe: Nba Starts For Heat Lovers Only by JeSoul(f): 8:27pm On Jul 31, 2008
LOL . . . I told you guys Artest is not stable. 1-day into the trade and he's already beefing with Yao and calling a long-term contract  grin  cheesy Check out the convo:

  http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?id=3512419

Yao: "Hopefully, he's not fighting anymore and going after a guy in the stands," according to the Houston Chronicle.

Artest: "I understand what Yao said, but I'm still ghetto. . . That's not going to change. I'm never going to change my culture. Yao has played with a lot of black players, but I don't think he's ever played with a black player that really represents his culture as much as I represent my culture.

"We've still got to make sure there's still a commitment [from the Rockets]," Artest said, according to the Bee. "That's the main thing, is to make sure there's still a commitment. When I speak to the powers-that-be of the Houston Rockets' organization, we're going to find out how much they really want me there. We'll find out. I'm still waiting to find out if this is just a trade or if this is like a long-term commitment-type thing. I haven't spoken to anybody yet. I'm still waiting."


Apparently repping "your culture" means you keeps it real by being ghetto and taking matters to your fist if the occasion calls for it  grin. If I were Houston I would be thinking 2wice, 3rice about this trade . . . He hasn't played one second in a houston uniform but yet wants a long-term contract? what is this guy smoking?  huh
SportsRe: Nba Starts For Heat Lovers Only by JeSoul(f): 8:19pm On Jul 31, 2008
LASIEFAIRE:
grin grin grin

poor old shaq . . . I guess he can't play any more he is trying to get back to rapping.
I enjoyed the Black Cactus jokes and all, but damn the diesel was pompous.
I remember Bynum dunked on him, he got really pissed and wanted to fight with the dude.
hehe smiley since he was dismissed from his deputy position, the guy needs something else to pass time with

Brett Favre should just retire. I am not feeling that guy, the sage, the packers fan anymore embarassed
Brett Favre should be a thing of the past. Building on a new quarterback now will set them up for the future.
That should read[b] Brat [/b] Favre . . .it is a well deserved modification. How can he retire then come back months later after the team has moved on and say "I've changed my mind"? That's inconsiderate and spolit and if I were part of Packer management I would take the heat but NEVER release him, maybe trade him to the AFC but not a release - they own him for the next couple yrs.
SportsRe: Nba Starts For Heat Lovers Only by JeSoul(f): 7:03pm On Jul 31, 2008
LASIEFAIRE:
And with Bynum back in the Lakers line up, the lakers will be a complete team. I would love to see K.G muscling Bynum like he did Gasol. Odikwa Impossible.
Lol. . . Bynum will fare much better than softy, no muscle Gasol. Speaking of muscling around, I imagine all the younsters that Shaq abused when he was dominant can now exact their revenge on his tired slow behind cool
SportsRe: Nba Starts For Heat Lovers Only by JeSoul(f): 6:59pm On Jul 31, 2008
doyin13:
that is what you call covering all bases. cheesy cheesy
ah I see smiley. A move like that can backfire if it doesn't work. . . unless they picked Kwame up for peanut change.

NO still have the same problem even with James Posey. Posey is a good defensive player,
but this team was already good defensively. The problem they had against the Spurs was getting
a third scoring option after Bowen locked down (wetin be that Balkan guy name again sef.) They need
more offence I reckon, although Posey does augment what is one of the thinnest benches in the league
augment indeed! Posey is def one "scoring option" that gives them a boost.

Come sef. . . , You think the Sox will trade Manny?

If they do, mehn, odikwa risky oo

They should just chill and wait for a berra time to get good value for him I think.
If they can withstand his bullshit for this long, waiting a bit longer would not hurt abi?
hehe, true talk. They should def wait till the offseason, they have nuthin to loose by exercising some patience. Me, I like Manny, in all his madness and crazyiness and weirdness, his "free-spiritness" inexplicably appeals to me  kiss.
There's no way the Sox can replace his bat right now so they should just kiss and make up.

  The real drama in the sports world is Brat Favre . . . I hope GB does not succumb to pressure and release him. Ah ah for the past 4yrs he's been dancing the retirement limbo. After all that crying at the press conference on how he'll miss the game, and does not have the desire anymore. And to think I used to like him about 1 month ago . . . .  tongue
SportsRe: Nba Starts For Heat Lovers Only by JeSoul(f): 6:34pm On Jul 31, 2008
[quote author=A-40 link=topic=143923.msg2587785#msg2587785 date=1217519267]@Jesoul
With Posey in the mix NO is obviously an immediate contender.[/quote]I know. NO has great potential so go deep next season.
Bynum's return also means the Lakers would cause problems
No doubt Bynum will provide a solid inside presence but he is just one man, the lakers have still not addressed the reason they did not hoist the trophy in june.

but you forgot one team the Mavs grin yes ohh i said it
. . . hehe I already forgot them I mean we'll see!
SportsRe: Nba Starts For Heat Lovers Only by JeSoul(f): 6:31pm On Jul 31, 2008
doyin13:
They become a better defensive and offensive team, and it is scoring points that has been their sore point.

Artest's good defence often deflects from his very polished offensive skills. If Yao should go down again, Artest
can provide good post offense, and good perimeter production when the team is complete.
Yes he definately provides another scoring option, but the defense I think is more valueable esp out there in the high powered west where many teams don't want to play defense, it can finally help get that 1st rd monkey off their back.

Dumars is hit and miss, though its been mostly hit so far. I bet this one will be a hit-miss grin grin cheesy
which one be hit-miss? huh
TV/MoviesRe: Tyler Perry House Of Payne by JeSoul(f): 6:25pm On Jul 31, 2008
pls SeanT that show is not funny at all! I tried watching it a couple of times but instead of laughing I was annoyed at the attempts to be funny. . .

huge thumbs down!
PoliticsRe: No More First Ladies In Nigeria by JeSoul(f): 6:22pm On Jul 31, 2008
Gonorrhea:
could they even pass as beauty paegeants?!lol

pancake rubbing, fat jobless bunch of women!! grin
erhm what about the fat governors that are marrying 3-6 wives? Shouldn't they be the ones in control of their own households?
If a govenor comes into office with several wives, pick one that'll be the first lady instead of allowing the constant bickering and fighting. but I guess I should not be suprised, these useless govs cannot even control thier own houses, much less the state they supposedly running.
Foreign Affairs"Obama's Here" - Ludacris' Song For Obama Is Ludicrous by JeSoul(op): 6:17pm On Jul 31, 2008
The right wing is going nuts afters Luda's latest stunt. They're all screaming as to how this reflects badly on Obama. In the song he calls Hillary a bitch, and says "McCain don't belong in any chair unless he's paralyzed" etc . . .

I think its unfair to say this will reflect badly on Obama but it probably will. Obama has met with & complimented Ludacris in the past and the Reps are reminding everyone of that. I've always seen luda as unintelligent & laughable, and this song lyrics only confirms it. The song is well written, its too bad he has nuthin sensible to say.
  IMHO Obama if he wants to succeed does not need idiots like Ludacris on his side.

Ludacris "Obama's Here" Lyrics

I'm back on it like I just signed my record deal
Yeah the best is here, the Bentley Coup paint is dripping wet, it got sex appeal
Never should have hated, You never should've doubted him
With a slot in the president's iPod Obama shouted 'em

Said I handle my biz and I'm one of his favorite rappers
Well give Luda a special pardon if I'm ever in the slammer
Better yet put me in office, make me your vice president
Hillary hated on you, so that bitch is irrelevant

Jesse talking slick and apologizing for what?
If you said it then you meant it how you want it head or gut?
And all you other politicians trying to hate on my man,
watch us win majority vote in every state on my man

You can't stop what's bout to happen, we bout to make history
The first black president is destined and it's meant to be
The threats ain't fazing us, the nooses or the jokes
So get off your ass, black people, it's time to get out and vote!

Paint the White House black and I'm sure that's got 'em terrified
McCain don't belong in any chair unless he's paralyzed
Yeah I said it cause Bush is mentally handicapped
Ball up all of his speeches and just throw 'em like candy wrap
'cause what you talking I hear nothing even relevant
and you the worst of all 43 presidents

Get out and vote or the end'll be near
The world is ready for change because Obama is here
'cause Obama is here
The world is ready for change because Obama is here, yeah
because Obama is here


http://www.hiphopmusic.com/2008/07/ludacris_obama_rap_politics_ly.html
Foreign AffairsRe: Bush Approved The Execution Of Former Us Army- Do You Support Death Penalty? by JeSoul(f): 6:02pm On Jul 31, 2008
doyin13:
Jesoul, i am quite surprised you are in support of the Death Penalty.
Sweetie I'm not all sugar and spice  kiss 
Makes up for the deficiencies in your basketball knowledge cheesy cheesy tongue
deficiencies? hehe you must have me confused with someone else. . . hmm let me think. . . you!  tongue  cool Don't make me have a showdown with you in basketball jeopardy. . . that unsuspecting guy whose butt I kicked-flawless- in tekken 1 or 2 is still suffering self-confidence issues, 10yrs and counting  cool  one of the proudest moments of my life I tell you.

My own viewpoint on the death penalty is nuanced.

I do not believe it should be statutorily permanent. But where a nation
starts to feel insecure with high incidents of homicidal crime, its introduction surely
serves as a useful deterrent, not minding what these statisticians come up
with.

For example, the Uk needs the death penalty like no tomorrow. Little rascals roam
about with no value placed on life at all
, and with brevity knowing they can get away
with their heinous crimes.
I hear you. I remember watching the Timothy McVeigh execution coverage . . .all the lives he took, the little children that never got to experience their childhood, dying in such a horrible manner. . .  angry please I woulda injected him myself.
Foreign AffairsRe: Bush Approved The Execution Of Former Us Army- Do You Support Death Penalty? by JeSoul(f): 4:13pm On Jul 31, 2008
mahatma G:
In my own opinion, Death sentence is a craven way man accept his inability to help his fellow brother that needs help, just my opinion.
Poster, some people are beyond "help". They simply evil and no amount of therapy or rehab will change that.

Have you seen or heard some of the heinous, unspeakable crimes that some people have commited? People who savagely rape and kill little girls, serial killers who torture and eat their victims, repeat rapists who've brutalized multiple victims and have shown no remorse for the lives they've destroyed. . .

you're saying these people simply need our help and understanding? Tell that to the victims and the families of the victims who are devastated. You would feel differently if it were your sister, or mother or wife that was raped and killed.

I support the death penalty 100%.

The only reservation I have is that sometimes justice errorneously jails and executes innocent men.

landis:
EU has no death sentence; you will expect 'killings' to go up but no. It is rather LOW

USA that sentence people to death, still has HIGH killings rate compare to EU.

Nigeria has death sentence, yet crime keeps going up.

This has shown 'death sentence is not any deterant and does not reduce crime.

solution: clean-up your social system.
I agree with you the best solution is to reform the society, you kill a problem at its roots not the branches. Nevertheless if a branch goes bad it must still be cut off. I don't think the sole purpose of the death penalty is to serve as a deterrent, it is also for punishment. People will always kill, steal and rape - it has been happening since the biblical days and they must be punished according to the chosen and accepted laws of the society.
SportsRe: Nba Starts For Heat Lovers Only by JeSoul(f): 2:52pm On Jul 31, 2008
[quote author=A-40 link=topic=143923.msg2583405#msg2583405 date=1217444736]@Jesoul
Well maybe i will take your word for it but i will sue you if Artest's purchase leads the Rockets past the first round of the Western Conference Playoffs[/quote]TMac making it out of the 1st rd? For me seeing is believing. Although I won't kid myself of the fact they've suddenly become a better defensive team with Artest. My money is still on NO to top the west next season. . . they are a solid team.

Kwame Brown? That Joe Dumars sef its like he is too used to firing people with such moves his firing could be around the corner
well so far Dumars has been able to resurrect & legitimize the careers of a couple 2nd, 3rd chance players. . . maybe he can do the same for Kwame's lazy behind.
IslamRe: Interpreting The Holy Qu'ran by JeSoul(f): 3:50pm On Jul 30, 2008
olabowale:
@JeSoul:
You are are taking the conversation way out of hand. I was talking about thereafter. Even if we apply it to this present life, we will see that every normal woman or man will at one time, especially when the hormones are in there, plentiful, will desire sexual relationship. Yet once, in time past, when they were mere children will hate to think about it.

If you are not one of those "Christian women," who have talked about sex and hope to have it under its legal ruling, then, you will not deny that you will have it, as a normal woman, in its legal and normal setting. I am just encouraging you that the benefit of paradise is to reunite with your earthly spouse and enjoy what you used to enjoy on earth. Whereas, those who end up in hellfire will be in torment and that will not be a thing afforded them. I hope uou get it now.
Again I will ask you so all you're looking forward to in "paradise" is sex sex and more sex? how sad!

I am shocked that you are shocked, except that you did not get it, as now explained, above. I remember when my boys were very young. The older one was always eager to kiss his mother and I. But my the time he was 4 or so, he was telling me in particular that daddy, thats not possible anymore. And i am praying that in few years, just by the time he is 30 he can settle down and start a family with a nice nigerian girl. If you become a muslim, I will pay your dowry for him. Regardless of how much it is, InshaAllah. His name is Olayiwola.
Dowry ke? alhaji my background is modern, my family does not "sell" or "buy" wives. and I'm sure Olayiwola is a nice guy smiley but I will not be the 3rd, 4th or 5th wife grin besides already got me a handsome italian - who is a Christian.

With Adam, Enoch, Noah, Ibrahim, etc in my Islamic bus, along with Jesus and Muhammad (as), please don't get yourself in a train express to nowhere. Our bus is heading to paradise, all the way. Allah says in the Qur'an,Ibrahim is not a Jew nor a christian, but he is a hanifan, musliman. He did not choose a partner with God.

Believe me, when islamic bus stumble upon jesus, he would have been waiting at the bus stop, to be picked up, because all his leaders and family members were in there or waiting for this bus along with him. Just imagine the bus where there Ibrahim, the father of faith is a passenger, along with Noah, Moses, etc! Far out, ainit!
Jesoul, a ma jo ngbe america ni. This is not about me. i am old, already. More importantly am more african women in legal setting. You can not deny than women prefer muslim men for their clean living. hamzah peltier is white in Cambridge Massachussetts. Islam has improved him. Same as the blacks in Foxbury, or other areas. These men are now model citizens. It is in islam that a man who is poor can marry a successful woman, who was a virgin, before they married. And it is happening in America. You can hae America more than New york City or Boston!

You remind of Zainab. An Owerri princess, who thought nothing of Islam, until Allah opened her heart to it, in 2006, March, when I met her for the first time. Alhamdulillah, today, she is a woman in Hijab, in all her lawyering with the United Nations. And when you say them, those who you are walking with at the moment, is it any wonder that we say that you hav multiple gods? Aburo, is almost as if i know you. I will pray for you. Again when I am on my way to Boston, i will let you know.

Don't die for christ, because according to your Bible, you may just behave like him, crying aloud, "My Christ, my Christ, why has thou forsaken me!" LOL. Don't kill me ooo. As I am having this dialogue with you, I hope you will see the wisdom in it, God willing. Have you noticed when the christians even say God willing, and never at anytime say, Jesus or Holy spirit willing? You see that when they speak th truth, the mention God and nothing else. But when they settle in their subtle idolatry, they remember Jesus, and holy ghost along with the Lord of the world who is the only One deserving to be worshipped.
ah Alhaji this is too long now. . . huh all I'm saying is Jesus is the way the truth and the life! and no one will get to heaven except thru him, kapish.
IslamRe: Interpreting The Holy Qu'ran by JeSoul(f): 3:41pm On Jul 30, 2008
samba123:
Jesoul

How can I failed went all the written history and accounts have be recorded in the Bible. It’s not a failure to produce such a passage when you read the genocide, murder, human sacrifice all can be institute as the originator of Christianity instinct. Muslim are most distressed to this problem now a days the best example we can see the War in Afghanistan and Iraq are still many Muslims suffering to this kind of incident. What about the killing happen in University in London and America that Christians accounted for that deed? You see this kind of incident are not widely spread they just compound the problem in their own community. If Muslim committed that act, all the media around the world will condemn the entire Muslim as terrorist. And I don’t know what terrorist means in Christianity? How they called a Christianity terrorist when doing such a violent act in the community? What is the different between Christian Terrorist and Muslim Terrorist?



You are accusing the entire Muslims world. What a gullible people you are?
They just like to focus and divert the story to the Muslims people so that they can get much more attention and hatred. Is there any witnesses in that 9/11.? Until now they can’t find anyone who’s the perpetrator. There is a possibility the one who is accusing is the one who accounted for that event. Imagine a fully guarded and well equip with high technology can be boasted on that event without any sense at all just think about that.

and even you Niece you're teaching how to hate people, well its should be a good manner if that sooo.


I though you are well educated to put the word. BILLIONS OF THREAD ON NAIRALAND I was shock wow wow wow oh come on are your out of mind like a crazy fellow throwing word without thinking that? take a look first lady Jesoul before you comment the thread in Religion here in Nairaland if they reach a Billion ? give me those result can you? What a naïve? grin
You know if I had more disposable time in a day I would indulge you on this post smiley. Nevertheless as for the part in bold above, forgive me for assuming you understood the concept of sarcasm cool
Christianity EtcRe: Is Jesus God? by JeSoul(f): 3:36pm On Jul 30, 2008
Kazeem
IS JESUS GOD?PLEASE DO NOT LET US BE CONFUSE
IN THE BIBLE,SO MANY PLACES,
JESUS ALWAYS MAKES HIS FOLLOWERS TO
KNOW THAT THERE IS A SUPREME BEING GREATER THAN HIM
WHY THEN DO YOU (CHRISTIANS)CHRIST FOLLOWER NOW CLEAMS
THAT JESUS IS GOD.
YOU SHALL ALL BE DENINED ON THE LAST DAY.

ISLAM IS THE ONLY RELIGION ACCEPTED BY ALLAH(SWT)-GOD.
erhm shouldn't you be hiding along with your fellow islamos in your "special" forum?   cool
 
  You guys wanted your own space now just go quietly and sit there, if a christian went into your forum, made a topic like this, na jihad jiahd fatwa fatwa we for dey hear by now. Abeg make you carry go!  tongue  cool
IslamRe: Islam And Terrorist by JeSoul(f): 3:33pm On Jul 30, 2008
reindeer:
@olabowale
and you said i was wrong when i said islam has no identity without christianity,
look at the scenario

qtn: how can ISLAM tackle terrorism

your ans: should only do better that CHRISTIANTY,


which was obviously not mentioned by the question, you just had to come around to it, you only confirm it, you can't answer a single question on anything islam without mentioning those words, jesus,bible,jews,christians etc


as a test case can you please answer the following question,

who was prophet mohammed ?(im supposed to put pbuh as a mark or respect here)
i bet your answer will start with THATS THE GUY AFTER JESUS CAME, isnt that so? grin
hehe grin cool
Alhaji you shot yourself in the foot, see as you just exposed urself. The fact is islam is lost without christianity, or better yet islam is just plain lost. cool
SportsRe: Nba Starts For Heat Lovers Only by JeSoul(f): 2:05pm On Jul 30, 2008
In other Basketball news:

     Dwyane Wade guaranteed the USA team will win the gold medal at the Olympics. On top of that he has already laid out a plan of the cities he'll do a tour of showing the gold medal when they return.  angry  angry  angry
its these kinds of cocky, arrogant statements that make other countries hate americans. First Lebron now wade, why can't they just shut up and go play? Why is humility a trait that seems to be absent from so many american athletes?

infact I hope Pueto rico or someone else spanks them again angry I hate arrogance.
SportsRe: Nba Starts For Heat Lovers Only by JeSoul(f): 1:57pm On Jul 30, 2008
Ha this thread has been too quiet. . . smiley
LASIEFAIRE:
I saw it. . . Nna couldnt believe my eyes shocked. I couldnt tell who hit who first. My own Candace Parker ridiculed herself,. . . It was disappointing. Hope she doesnt turn out to be the WNBA's version of Jesoul's tongue best player Ron Artest.
hehe Artest is inspiring people all around the sports world wink

Speaking of Ron Artest, the Kings just traded him to the Rockets for Bobby Jackson and Donte Green and future pick.
http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?id=3510261

Hehe. . . A-40 you may be disappointed but trust me, your Mavs have dogded a bullet
Houston "you have a problem" cheesy and you will have a problem for at least 1 yr. Where's Onyinye? how do you feel about your latest acquisition down in Houston?

In other news, did you guys hear the Pistons picked up Kwame Brown? shocked I thot for sure he was done in this league and for a reputable team like Detroit to pick him up is a big deal for him. I hope Joe Dumars knows what he's doing. . . or better yet hope he doesn't for the C's sake.

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