₦airaland Forum

davidylan:
are you surprised? that is why i laugh when i see these people constantly harping about "facts". That you see something come up on google multiple times doesnt a fact make.

bro david, learn to ignore these people. the bible says the fool says there is no God.

tope2000:
NO

why not believe me that deeper life has changed. even the guys wear designers now and trousers can be longer now.  anyway back to the subject  engagement ring is a must in my book

busybein:
Excuse me sir,but did u read my post well before replying?

i think ur statement should be directed at others but def not me

of course you know it was not directed at you but at others

tope2000:
Sharap diaaaaaaaa, u have come again

are you deeepeeer?  have you beenthere recently?

busybein:
i think he needs to have his head checked

for saying you dont have to be selfish. you are a receiver not a buyer so what is your problem with that my dear?

naija my naija

oga sorry o. most lagos girls have always been like that sickle cell or no sickle cell

tope2000:
No offence
But do u worship @ deeper life

you, God help you

deeper higher everyday with Jesus daily let me grow. deeper life has changed tope. their pastors wear rings now. you wont know the sisters now with their make up

busybein:
even marriages break up,so wats wt engagement?if a man can break up wt a woman hes spent his whole savings on,then he can as well break up wt his fiancee,people have spent more than 5000 pounds on engagement rings and 10,000 pounds on wedding ring,but still their marriage did not last

its more like enjoying it while it lasts

dont buy ring buy puff puff to show how naive, silly and stingy you are

people have accidents with cars loads of people still travel by cars. it is not the value of the ring but the value of the life coming into yours

inbox:
although as a guy i am not really into rings and jeweries generally, i might even have probs with wifey because i may not wear our wedding ring but i will want ha 2 do all the blinging 4me

i dont do rings too but i knew it was what the lady of the house would want so to the jewelers i went

waste of space

you ought to be ashamed of yourself.  why not go for counselling or deliverance before you destroy some young lady life with your foolish lust. in this whole world the only person your ugly mind and eyes are looking is your brothers wife.  God help you

busybein:
ahn ahn but its true nowww,she said it herself,and with the way she described d whole thing one day sef(HR.Hotness is my witness) ,it was obvious she liked it better when its done by a woman dan a man,so wetin she come dey complain about

SOME PEOPLE FORGET THERE ARE "RECORDERS" ON NL.

f4flakes:
Hi kathy,

I am 14wks pregnant and i started having this pain on my right side. It's practically on my pelvic bone and makes walking difficult. What do you think? I had a miscarriage back in june vat 10 wks so every little pain makes me paranoid. Thanks for your time.

may God see you through this one in Jesus name

why is the sleeping open eye o, open eye song difficult to get. i have been asking for this song for 3yrs now. no one know the singer abi na artiste dem they call them kind people now.

Sisi Jinx:
@Osisi
I can’t stop laughing at your stories.

A few months ago, I took my nephew to a birthday party held at a park. The party went very well, apart from the whole . . . daddies standing on the other side of the park, totally disconnect from the group, drinking their Hyyynikins part, of course. Anyway, when the party ended and it came time to clean up,  the few of us guests who had offered to help did so, carrying on like happy little beavers, picking stuff off the grass, emptying large gorodoms and basias of ice (took two of us to carry one), taking packs drinks, empty and half empty coolers to the cars, dismantling the rented chairs and putting them back on the rack like the rental company instructed. . . . We, WOMEN all of us. . .  and the men? Gisting away like old biddies in a nursing home. Yes, not one even the smallest muscle in their body moved to our direction

After I caught my finger for the fifth time folding the chairs, I thought. . .  Nah! Nah! that it, I not about to lose a nail over a party that had nothing to do with me and mine. If the husband’s puny brain cannot tell him. . . "Hey man, put the discussion on hold and go help your wife fold the 150 chairs used for your child's party" and she does not have the guts to say “Honey, do you mind helping me with these”. . .  then it is their problem, not mine. So I washed my hands. . . literally and figuratively speaking, went to fetch my nephew, ready to say my adios to them and what did I see. . . the celebrant’s mother, her sister and a friend struggling to dismantle to the freaking tent!

I'll give you a mental picture

On this corner we have the celebrant's daddy, his uncle and about three or four of daddy’s friend, standing, talking and drinking, the average weight and height for all six men is probably 230lb and 6ft. On the other corner are three women, average weight and height 180lb and 5.6, attempting to take a 27’ by 42’ tent (I asked. . . for when I tell people).  I could not believe it. I understand not playing with the kids, I understand not logging bags of ice back and forth but this. . . nah!  I was so angry, I thought what should I do? I came up with two options, stump my feet on the floor like a brat or scream . . . so I screamed and when I got their attention, I said It was because I thought the tent was about to fall on the women. The men looked at the women and the women looked at me because they knew the tent wasn’t about to do jack!

So did these men put their drinks down to go help the women immediately? No, the husband had to ask if she needed help and what did she say “If you don’t mind” Having gotten the confirmation that they won't be doing a task the women can do, all of them with their potbellies, waddle over to the tent and started dismantling it.

This is not an isolated event, you see them everywhere. . .

At the malls, hands in pocket, nary a care in the world, while their wives struggle with four shopping bags while also trying to keep the out of control children in line

At the airport, sitting in the driver’s side as their wives struggle to get her luggage out of the trunk. . . after having to remind him to open it and heaven help her if she does not get it out on time, she will be eating car dust.

At church. . . walking nonchalantly in front of the carseat and diaper bag carrying woman.

At the grocery store, sitting in the car watching their wives load bags and bags of grocery in the trunk.

Once asked a guy if he’d bath his children, his answer “You mean if their mom is sick?” and It wasn’t a joke.

How anyone can deny that this happens. . . is beyond me. I think I prefer 4Play’s blatant and unapologetic sexism (because you know where you stand and what to expect with him) to turning a blind eye and acting like it’s all our heads. I mean what’s this supposed to be. . . . folie a plusieurs? If you aren’t like this, it doesn’t mean other men aren’t. If you haven’t witnessed it, it by no means mean it does not exist. My grandma used say when 1 person says 10 people are bad, then that 1 person needs to check himself and if 10 people say 1 person is bad, then that person really has issues. Many women, black, multicolored fair, tall, short and average, from North to south, east to west are saying the same and it’s not like we have a secret monthly meeting where we meet and conspire to bring up false charges against men, we aren’t so bored we think the only way to get some excitement is to say these things about men.

Seriously, we needn’t look further than the threads on Nairaland to see the mentality some men carry for women. Why is it that when a woman is firm about her stance on an issue, she is called frustrated, bitter, a spinster, who has no man and will never marry? Why?!! Last night, on the auto section (and now someone is thinking. . . what was she doing there in the first place? Lmoa) I called a guy out for something and he asked me if I’m on my period, this was after he told me he can’t be bothered to explain it to me since I will never understand it . . . Rotflmao! I mean It’s so freaking sad that you are too shocked to get upset and all you can do is laugh. . . which, by the way, is exactly what I did when I read 4Play’s posts. 

some of these jerks spent most of their formative years with their moms. my question is what did they teach them? you never got away from doing anything because you are a boy from my granny and mum.

MrCrackles:
TOPIC

In the oven!

like the idea

what can we do to bring these mad people to answer for their crimes

Sisi Jinx:

I have been making sense lately??

Hehehehehe. . . I swear, I don't if i should be offended or complimented!

Hehehehe

you are looking for my trouble.  of course you know i am offended. why would i say a thing like that?

when are you coming up with another production of your good wife series?

though you are a prankstar, you make loads of sense.

good ole first wives club. hollywood funny people.

marraige is a good thing. it is a brilliant concept. in my opinion it is not for everyone.

seriously- is it confirmed that this guy actually bought a plane?

Sisi Jinx:
I agree with you that marriage isn’t necessary. I won’t feel this way, if some people don’t think marriage is a way to lock you in. . . signed, sealed and delivered, stick a fork in it, it’s done, fait accompli!!!

After marriage, most people tend to be complacent; they feel they don’t have to work hard at the relationship aspect of it. . . why should they, they are already married. Then the taking each other for granted begins….”Oh she’s my wife now, she ain’t going nowhere/He’s my husband now, he'll always be there!” Pretty soon, they are miserable but can’t get out or rather they are hard pressed to get out of because of the stigma of divorce. 

In my opinion, a relationship in its truest sense is when someone has every opportunity to leave but they don’t and the beauty is in knowing two people want to be together because they want to and not because they are compelled to by a piece of paper. https://smiley.onegreatguy.net/firstkiss.gif

you still havent answered a simple question.  have you changed your diet recently?  you are making too much sence .  most people by their lifestyle and selfishness should for ever be single.marraige is very good but you must  never marry a person you cannot live without.  marraige is hard work and always worth it if you find the right person

sholabanke:
how can u say my name has no meaning in yoruba
okay na hausa meaning it get

was asking a kwuersion as my niece would say. what does that word sholabanke mean?

cooldud62*:
I first saw this thread when i was on mobile sometime ago, i couldnt reply, i just read through.
I want to congratulate all the mothers here,
by the grace of God, you will live to enjoy your children.
When it's time to reap, no one will chase you from your place. . .(its a yoruba prayer if you know)
eni eleni oni gbase yin se o!

to the topic,
I am so thankful to God i came as a guy,
but i am not sure if i'm better off, know why?
my own experience was in '99,
i fainted near the hall!
I am too emotional, i hate to see someone i love cry
I made up ma mind never to go near that place again.

you are a clown. this is funny

Huney:
i personally think that kids raised in Nigeria are better.if for nothing else the child will get an idea of what shame is.every thing is always alright and nobodies fault in the UK.
how can a parent discipline a child at home and then the child goes to school where she is encouraged tricked and almost forced it talk about what goes on at home only for the teachers to say it was not right for the parent to discipline the child thus undermining the parents authority.what respect will the child have for the parent.
i beg can anybody give me a name and number for a good primary and secondary boarding school in Nigeria.

it is the parents that failed the made in uk/us kids. most naija kids are worse than children in the west. they lie, steal and fornicate like there is no tomorrow.

wait there is no harm in waiting. dont let no one rush you into any marraige

which of them is 16 in that profile pics?

funmi you will make a great 3rd wife. you like the bizness too much

how old are u?

Deadly fury
• Robbers kill 8 to protest failed bank raid
By HENRY UMAHI
Saturday, December 20, 2008

•Nkechi Eze
Photo:Sun News Publishing

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As the world prepares to celebrate the birth of Jesus Christ, the Uburu community in Ohaozara Local Government Area of Ebonyi State, is wallowing in grief, sorrow and tears.
On Wednesday, December 10, 2008, the community, renowned for salt production, had a taste of war in peace time.

That day, a vicious gang of six armed robbers raided a first generation bank (name withheld) located on the outskirts of the community at about 11.00am. The gang did not only come to steal but also to kill and destroy. Eight people were killed and several others injured, as the robbers went on a shooting free.
The attack was the second in two years. The first attack was in 2006, which claimed six lives.

Saturday Sun gathered that when the gang attacked on December 10, it could not gain access to the bank’s vault. The robbers, armed with AK47 and other sophisticated weapons, ran amok, hence they opened fire on villagers in the heart of the community. In the process, they killed eight people.
The case of one of the victims, Miss Nkechi Eze, a 20-year- old student of College of Education, Ikwo, was pathetic. The robbers blew off her head. She was said to be preparing for her teaching practice before she was wasted. Another man is feared to have also died during the attack. The robbers also killed a policeman at Uduma, while fleeing.

Many other people also sustained gunshot injuries in the rage of the bandits. They include Mr. Ugwu, a staffer of the bank from Nsukka, Enugu State and Mrs. Chuku Ogar, an indigene. While Ugwu’s abdomen was pumped with bullets, Ogar was shot in the leg. Some of the victims are said to be currently receiving treatment at the Ebonyi State University Teaching Hospital, Abakaliki.

Family sources disclosed that when Nkechi’s mother beheld the gory sight of her daughter’s shattered head, she passed out and had to be revived. However, her blood pressure instantly rose to an alarming level. She had to be taken to Warri, Delta State by relations for adequate medical care.
One of the community leaders, who pleaded anonymity for security reasons, told Saturday Sun that the bandits held them hostage for hours as they played deadly music with their guns. According to him, the community is still in debilitating shock even as many, particularly the aged ones, have developed one health problem or another.

He said: “It was like a war situation; a situation that is better imagined than experienced. We cannot forget it in a hurry. Indeed, it was a sad moment, a very dark day. Around 11.00am that day, Wednesday, December 10, 2008, a six-man gang of robbers armed to the teeth stormed the bank. When they gained entry into the bank, they started looking for the manager because they wanted the keys to the vault. Somehow, the bank manager escaped but they descended on another staffer who they mistook for the manager. They beat him blue and black, and eventually shot him when he couldn’t produce the keys.

“Since the mission of breaking into the vault had failed, they just packed the money on the counter. Of course, the robbers did not spare the unlucky customers inside the bank at the time. One of the customers was from the neighbouring community. They dealt with him severely, took his money and made away with his motorcycle. Perhaps, because they did not steal the kind of money they envisaged, they decided to vent their anger on the hapless community. The robbers went about shooting sporadically and looting mindlessly in broad daylight. From the sound of their weapon and the ease with which they dispensed bullets, it was obvious they were prepared.

“They came in a Mercedes Benz 190 car. But as they were leaving the bank, they took with them the station wagon belonging to the auditor. However, as they were operating, some courageous youths of the land went and buried nails on the exit route. So, when they ran through the nails, the tyres of the station wagon went flat and they abandoned it there. Unfortunately, the tyres of the Mercedes Benz 190 were not affected; perhaps it had tubeless tyres.”

On how the trainee teacher met her untimely end, the chief said that the young lady, who just returned to observe the last public holiday with her family, was actually in her mother’s shop at the area known as Isieke when the rain of bullets started. Perhaps, out of fear, he noted, she poked her head out of the door only for the rampaging robbers to pump hot leads into her, spilling her brains. And the girl died with her dream of becoming a teacher.

Lamenting about the porous security situation of the area, the community leader said: “The armed robbers came in through the Uburu-Npu road and escaped through the same route because there is virtually no police presence there even though it is the border between Ebonyi and Enugu states. It is high time something was done because right now the people are at the mercy of the bandits, who strike at will and stroll away unchallenged,” he said.
To buttress his position, he disclosed that less than two years ago, robbers stormed the community leaving a trail of sorrow, blood and tears. In the attack, people were killed and some seriously injured. Those killed include Eze Nwujor and Onu Chukumboke from Umuchima village. Among the injured was Unegwu Akpa from Amaenu.

According to our source, “during that operation, which lasted several hours, the robbers came to the bank at night with gas cylinders and other welding tools with which they attempted to break into the vault. Our kinsmen were also maimed before they left. And while leaving, they shouted that they will surely return, but not in the night again. Now, that promise has been fulfilled, so to say’.
He averred that due to the spate of armed robbery in the area, the only bank in the area had threatened to close shop but were persuaded by some prominent figures to shelve the plan. He contended that the latest siege is a grim reminder of the vulnerability of the community.
When contacted, the Ebonyi State Police Public Relations Officer, Mr. Chris Anyanwu confirmed the robbery attack. He revealed that he was expecting a report from the DPO of the Ohaozara Police Station.http://www.sunnewsonline.com/webpages/news/national/2008/dec/20/national-20-12-2008-01.htm

another madness.

ok you made up sholabanke. it does not mean anything in yoruba am i right?

this will be of interest to you funmi. just another confirmation of hausa foolishness if you needed one

[b]Why the military toppled Shagari[/b]
By DURO ADESEKO
Saturday, December 20, 2008

•Dosunmu
Photo:Sun News Publishing

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Former Minister of Works and Housing and member of the National Democratic Coalition (NADECO), Dr Wahab Dosunmu, has revealed why the government of President Shehu Shagari was toppled by the military.
In an exclusive interview with Saturday Sun, Dosunmu said the military struck because the North did not want power to go to the South after Shagari’s tenure.

He also said that the military, having asked Shagari to drop the Minister of Transport, Dr. Umaru Dikko, from the cabinet, decided to take over government because of the former president’s refusal to heed the warning.
Dosunmu spoke on these and many other fundamental issues.

As Minister for Works and Housing in the Shehu Shagari administration, what would you say was responsible for the fall of that administration?
The military took over.

We know that. But there must be a cause of the military take-over.
The then Minister of Transport, Alhaji Umaru Dikko loomed large in that government. He was virtually next to the president. He even had more access to the president than the then Vice President, Alex Ekwueme.
There were elements in the military that did not like Dikko. They (military high command) told Shagari that the man should not be reappointed as a minister. But Shagari reappointed him. So, that is one of the reasons they decided that the government would not last.
I also heard that some elements in the North did not want the National Party of Nigeria (NPN) to implement its zoning programme, so that after Shagari’s eight-year term, a Southerner does not replace him. The Southerner that would have replaced him would have been Alex Ekwueme. They wanted to pre-empt that and they felt it was better to do it early during his second term.
There are other reasons that may be adduced. But those two I can affirm to you.

It is believed that you organized the venue where Abiola declared himself president at Eleganza Sports Club, Epetedo. How true is this?
Well, I was not the sole brain behind it. I must share that credit with my brother, Ademola Adeniji-Adele and to a lesser extent, Omotilewa Aro-Lambo. But it was M.K.O Abiola who requested us to find a location where he would make his declaration. Some of our leaders in the Justice Forum were reluctant to take part because they thought it was going to be against the law.
Adeniji-Adele and I volunteered to procure a location and I came to Epetedo and found a location in the Premier Palace, the Eleganza Sport Centre and I spoke to the late Kudirat Abiola about the location and M.K.O came to join us there that evening.

The event ended at about 8pm and by 9pm. Abiola was declared wanted. So, he went underground on June 11, 1994. He reappeared on June 23 and again, I was privileged to provide accommodation for him in Surulere on the eve of his World Press Conference. Abiola and I spent the night together preparing for the following day and the speech he was to read to the world press. We sent the speech to Dr. Doyin Abiola that night for correction and waited until we had the final draft. Abiola and I did not have more than three to four hours sleep that night.

We had a decoy for the press. We took them to Eko Club and when it was time for the conference, we brought them to the location. We went in a convoy to the Surulere venue, where he spoke to the whole world. We then went in a procession to his house in Ikeja. The police were waiting, but they did not touch him and we parted ourselves in the back. We left around 9 or 10pm thinking that all was well. After mid-night, they came for him.

What was the idea behind Abiola declaring himself president? Alhaji Lateef Jakande said it was not well thought out by NADECO leaders because you knew the consequence of another man declaring himself president when there was a sitting president.
There is one thing we call Monday morning quarter back in the United States. It is an American slang. On Sunday afternoon, they play American football; quarter back is the leader of the team. At the end, somebody loses and somebody wins. When going to work on Monday morning, they would say: you should have done this and you should have done that. That is Monday morning quarters – backing. It is good for Alhaji Jakande to say that now. At that point, he was in Abacha’s government and if anything had dented Alhaji Jakande’s reputation, it is that service to Abacha. During the struggle in South Africa in Mandela years, they did not have the wherewithal to challenge the white supremacy, but they went ahead and suffered for it. If you say you must wait until you can match your oppressor, you will never protest.

It is alleged that your main plan was to get Abiola arrested and that you would have been frustrated if Abiola was not arrested by Abacha because there was nothing Abiola or NADECO would have done.
Abacha could not have left him. If he had left him, then Abiola would have sought recognition from foreign countries and form his government. He would have gone into exile. At the time we did what we did, we knew we were in a struggle. We challenged the oppressor. Imagine if the whole of Lagos, Ibadan, Abeokuta and other major towns protested in the streets. Just because the peoples were not ready, you should not blame the leaders. Maybe in retrospect, we did not read our people well. Maybe we were leading a bunch of cowards.

Why did NADECO leaders discourage Abiola from taking the bail he was granted at an Abuja High Court?
People are making spurious statements. There was no time NADECO met and told Abiola not to accept bail. I challenge anybody to quote any NADECO leader who advised Abiola not to accept bail. Abiola himself took the decision. When he was incarcerated, we were outside and we could not decide for him.

There was no means of communication between NADECO and Abiola?
No. He was arrested on June 24 and he was taken to court on July 14 and I decided that I was going to attend the trial so that I could see him. Of course, I was sitting in the court room that early morning with Kudirat Abiola and one of my wives when the police came to pick me up. So, none of us in NADECO saw Abiola from the day the police arrested him until he died.

Former governor Bola Tinubu, the late Funso Williams and yourself were leading contenders in the Lagos Alliance for Democracy (AD) governorship primaries in 1998. Questions are still being asked concerning the result announced by AD. What is the truth?
Well, if the truth must be told, there was no credible primaries. Out of the 20 local government areas in Lagos, in nine local governments, there were no primaries at all. And in the 11 local governments where there were primaries, it was handled in the old Nigerian way. The people who were brought from outside Lagos to conduct the primaries were told what to do and which of the candidates to favour. Figures were bandied around.

Election did not hold everywhere. They came out with a figure that gave Bola Tinubu the highest score and the late Funso Williams followed him and I came third. Our leaders in Afenifere knew that there was no credible primaries. But they had to have a candidate. Tinubu was the preferred candidate, to them. It is as simple as that. Funso Williams should not have contested at all because he was not even part of our struggle. But the late Ganiyu Dawodu, for reasons best known to him, pitched his tent with Funso Williams without telling his other colleagues in Afenifere. So, there was crisis at the end of the primaries and it was difficult to have a very clear candidate.

There was this moving around. Bola Tinubu came to me and was accompanied by one of his friends, Akinyelure. He came to the house of my friend, Yomi Finih, in company with my other friend, Chief Gbolahan Dehinde and Tinubu literarily prostrated that I should support him. That time, he was yet to be pronounced as AD candidate. It was a weekend. Williams thought he had won and Tinubu thought he had won. Because Tinubu and I were in the struggle, I decided to support him because I could not conceive of Williams, who was in government when we were being chased about, to be the main beneficiary of our struggle. Tinubu and I sat down and wrote an agreement. Of course, Tinubu did not implement five per cent of our agreement after his inauguration as governor. The following day, I issued a press release to announce my support for Tinubu, calling on others to rally round him. When William’s forces realized that I threw my hat in Tinubu’s ring, they gave up the struggle and came on board.

Was there any meeting among you, Pa Abraham Adesanya and Tinubu?
Yes, before the primaries, the late Adesanya, at a meeting of NADECO, said Tinubu and I should see him because we were the two contestants who concerned him. Williams, he said, had no stake. So, Tinubu and I went to Adesanya on two occasions. On the third occasion, I was alone and Bola was also alone with Adesanya. The first meeting was deadlocked because neither Tinubu nor I was ready to step down. On the second occasion, it was still deadlocked. While Bola and I were waiting for Adesanya in the living room, Adesanya’s wife emerged and was hailing Tinubu as, ‘my governor, the next governor.’ Bola was reluctant to reciprocate but was looking at me. Mama turned to me and said, Ngbo, ta lo ma se bi ki se ohun? (Who else can be governor if not Tinubu?) I replied, Emi ni ma. (It is I who can do it).

She asked: ‘Are you Wahab Dosunmu? And I said, yes. She turned back and said, ‘I am sorry o.’ That told me what was going to happen. At the last meeting I held with Adesanya, he asked why I wanted to go into the contest against Tinubu and Williams, who had the resources. I told him I didn’t have money but I had friends who could raise money. I said I could raise N10 million within two days. Adesanya asked, ‘you can raise that?’ I said yes and he said I could go ahead. I didn’t know what he discussed with Tinubu, but what I said earlier was the outcome.

You used to be secretary of NADECO. Why did you leave NADECO and Afenifere?
I never left NADECO. I don’t think anybody in NADECO has left even to date. It has, of course, virtually gone out of operation since the Fourth Republic came into being. After the burial of Abiola and the return of some of us from abroad, there was this debate on whether NADECO and Afenifere should participate in the General Abdulsalami Abubakar transition programme. After all said and done, majority decided that it was in the interest of the struggle that we participated in the transition programme. Our people were elected in many states and from that time on, NADECO ceased to exist. People are putting Afenifere, NADECO and AD in confusing manner.

The truth is that as of June 1993, when Abiola was elected, it was the SDP and the status of Chief Abiola that won the election across Nigeria and not only in Yoruba land. So, Afenifere, prior to that, had nothing to do with the election of Abiola. The active forces within SDP then were Jakande and Dapo Sarumi group in Lagos. I am sure that is what happened in other states. If Babangida had not annulled the election, the prominence and resurgence of Afenifere would have been much more difficult. The annulment brought Chief Anthony Enahoro’s MNR into prominence. Adesanya, Lanihun Ajayi, Adebanjo, Bola Ige, operated within MNR and worked with others to form NADECO.

Those of us who were in that struggle formed NADECO and remained there. The NADECO, of which I was secretary until I went on exile, had the responsibility for what happened in terms of elections and the formation of AD. Nobody can deny or dispute the fact that AD is the child of circumstance of the annulment of Abiola’s election. When I see and hear people now extolling the virtues of Chief Awolowo, which we all know is unequalled and they link it to AD and juxtapose the existence of AD to what happened in the first or second republic, I think it is stretching the truth.

Are you saying that some people are opportunists?
I don’t think they are opportunists. Some of these people have been on the frontline. But people appropriate things to themselves. If you read the papers, in the last two weeks, you will not read about Abiola at all. The groups in Afenifere have not mentioned Abiola. It is obvious that the Abdulsalami administration realized that if AD was not registered, the South West will not have a voice.
I read in the papers that Wale Osun said Afenifere should not be open to all and that it should be ideological. I don’t understand why he should make such statement as if they have a monopoly of caring for our people.

What is it that any of the governors and Wale Osun would have done that others have not done all over the country. They are talking of cardinal principles, not about development? Is education, an exclusive property of a section of the country? Nobody has a monopoly of caring for the people; what tenets of Afenifere are they talking about? People should not confuse issues. If Afenifere is going to survive, I hope what the new leader, Reuben Fasoranti, will prevail. If not, they will go their own ways and others will go their own ways. Nobody in my own part of Yoruba land can tell me that they care more for the people of Lagos State than I do in any form.

Those who said others who don’t subscribe to Awolowo ideas are excluded are not right. As great as Awolowo was, I join others to say the man was unequalled. We don’t today have the like of Awolowo. Not even Abiola. But to say those who don’t agree with him should be ex-communicated is asking for too much. What is the essence of our education that I cannot disagree with Mr. X or Mr. Y? Because you want to go in one direction and I want to go in another direction automatically excommunicate me as a Yoruba? I take exception to that.

In Lagos, people are hailing Governor Babatunde Fashola for his performance. What do you say to this?
I wish him well. If he succeeds, Lagos would have succeeded. I want him to succeed.

So, there is nothing wrong with the way he is handling the affairs of Lagos?
I see nothing wrong with Fashola per se. I don’t have information other than what you and I know. But that does not mean that I don’t have questions about the programmes that were handed over by Bola Tinubu and which Tinubu is still supervising. All the things that are going on, Tinubu has a hand in it and to his economic benefit.

Can you give examples?
Examples abound all over the place. On the so-called company doing construction in Lekki, it is believed that Tinubu is behind the project. If you are doing things for the people of Lagos and you are doing it for your economic benefit, there is a question as to transparency. Who are the people behind these companies? We need to know them. That has nothing to do with Fashola doing his work or not doing his work.
What I am saying is that, yes, I have issues with Lagos State government on the fate of our peasants in Ibeju Lekki, Eti Osa and other places. Such companies hold the land and the lands belong to the peasants. I cannot be happy with that.

The PDP complained about debts owned by Lagos State government during Tinubu era. What is the position now?
You see, if debt is targeted at development, like raising fund to build roads and things like that, you cannot fight that. Nobody can use the annual appropriation to build capital intensive projects. When you see phantom projects, like the madness they call the Atlantic City, that they want to sandfill the Atlantic Ocean and build a new city, I think it is madness, when there is land lying fallow in Agege and Ikeja division. You want to sandfill the ocean just because you want to make money by selling land to your friends. If you go to Oko-Awo and Ebute Elefun, you will see sandfilling. Nobody consider the environmental effect on people living in the area. They don’t give a damn.
Look at the so-called sun-burn-yard hotel that Tokubo Afikuyomi has bought for tourism. It is likely to be a waste. We don’t have the fact. They call it private – public partnership. Who is the private and who is the public? How much of our money has gone into that? At the end of the day, it will just be a waste of our money. They are doing propaganda and we don’t have the facts.

You were with the conservatives as a minister in NPN and you were with the progressives as NADECO secretary. Would you say that the political elite in Nigeria are the same?
I do not subscribe to these slogans or labels of progressives and conservatives. They are meaningless. The purpose of being in government is service, service, and service. Anything short of that does not appeal to me. When I say service to the people, it is to the down- trodden. To those who cannot help themselves. When I served as minister for housing, the party in government, NPN, had in its manifesto to provide shelter for Nigerian people. I had the honour to implement that programme, whether anybody liked it or not; we did. We built more than 45, 000 housing units in more than 200 locations. No other Federal Government has done that since independence. So, when Shehu Shagari was creating universities of technologies all over the country, was that conservative? When the River Basin authorities were being made to produce food through the green revolution, was that conservative?

You agree that the elite are the same?
Yes, not only are the elite the same, the so-called youths and the elderly are all the same. People in their 40s end up stealing money. Look at what Jakande did and the mark he left in Lagos State. As Awolowo grew older, he became wiser and much more effective, organizing his people. http://www.sunnewsonline.com/webpages/news/national/2008/dec/20/national-20-12-2008-02.htm

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