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Religion / Re: Nairaland Christian E-Fellowship by JJYOU: 10:54am On Jul 01, 2009
[size=28pt]The Sin Tamer[/size] - Do we ever get to stop fighting against the evil within?[/size]
John Ortberg | posted 6/29/2009

How much sin should we expect in the church? We have gauges for other elements of church life. We generally monitor attendance. We know how many people are in small groups. Somebody counts the offerings. And often we don't just measure what we're interested in—we set goals.

Anybody hear of a church that set a goal for a 5-percent sin reduction next year?

I don't mean to be glib about this. Sin is, somehow, at the root of all human misery. Sin is what keeps us from God and from life. It is in the face of every battered woman, the cry of every neglected child, the despair of every addict, the death of every victim of every war.

Pastors have historically understood their primary battle to be not the battle to build a big church, but the battle against the power of sin. "We wrestle not against flesh and blood … ." Christians have measured the seriousness of the battle by the suffering and bleeding of Calvary.

And sin doesn't seem to be going away, either outside or inside the church. So how should we be thinking about sin, in our congregations and in ourselves?

"If we claim to be without sin, we deceive ourselves and the truth is not in us," writes John.

It always helps to begin by identifying the boundaries over which error lies. Then at least we know what mistakes to avoid. And one boundary is the notion that we can be fully rid of sin in this life; that by enough vigilance and will-power and careful adherence to rules we can reach what used to be called sinless perfection (is there another kind?).

The problem with what might be called the "victorious Christian living" mindset is not that it takes sin too seriously. The problem is it inevitably becomes selective about which sins God hates the most, and they always end up being somebody else's sins. It misses the deeper layers of sin: sin not just as concrete acts of lying or cheating, but the sin of narcissism that infects my preaching and image-management that corrupts my conversations; the sin in my motives and emotions that is real but that I cannot simply turn off.

Jesus told the story about the tax collector and the Pharisee to a group of people "who were content in their own righteousness and looked down on everybody else."

The irony is that "looking down on everybody else" is a violation of the law of love, which according to Jesus is the absolute essence of righteousness. Sin is protean. It is a cancer that keeps mutating, and just when you think you have killed off one form, it turns out a deadlier strain yet is threatening your heart.
Recalibrating your sin monitor

There is a paradox about sin: it may be impossible to know how well you're doing at battling it. People who are in great physical shape usually know it. Musicians who have honed their craft could generally tell you how.

But when is the last time someone whose soul you deeply admire said to you: "I have really been on a roll when it comes to overcoming sin lately"? Those souls among us who are doing the best in contesting it don't seem to think they're doing particularly well. Maybe this is more than just modesty or neurosis. Maybe they're aware of the insidious danger.

The Sin Tamer
Do we ever get to stop fighting against the evil within?
John Ortberg | posted 6/29/2009

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The Sin Tamer
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How much sin should we expect in the church? We have gauges for other elements of church life. We generally monitor attendance. We know how many people are in small groups. Somebody counts the offerings. And often we don't just measure what we're interested in—we set goals.

Anybody hear of a church that set a goal for a 5-percent sin reduction next year?

I don't mean to be glib about this. Sin is, somehow, at the root of all human misery. Sin is what keeps us from God and from life. It is in the face of every battered woman, the cry of every neglected child, the despair of every addict, the death of every victim of every war.

Pastors have historically understood their primary battle to be not the battle to build a big church, but the battle against the power of sin. "We wrestle not against flesh and blood … ." Christians have measured the seriousness of the battle by the suffering and bleeding of Calvary.

And sin doesn't seem to be going away, either outside or inside the church. So how should we be thinking about sin, in our congregations and in ourselves?

"If we claim to be without sin, we deceive ourselves and the truth is not in us," writes John.

It always helps to begin by identifying the boundaries over which error lies. Then at least we know what mistakes to avoid. And one boundary is the notion that we can be fully rid of sin in this life; that by enough vigilance and will-power and careful adherence to rules we can reach what used to be called sinless perfection (is there another kind?).

The problem with what might be called the "victorious Christian living" mindset is not that it takes sin too seriously. The problem is it inevitably becomes selective about which sins God hates the most, and they always end up being somebody else's sins. It misses the deeper layers of sin: sin not just as concrete acts of lying or cheating, but the sin of narcissism that infects my preaching and image-management that corrupts my conversations; the sin in my motives and emotions that is real but that I cannot simply turn off.

Jesus told the story about the tax collector and the Pharisee to a group of people "who were content in their own righteousness and looked down on everybody else."

The irony is that "looking down on everybody else" is a violation of the law of love, which according to Jesus is the absolute essence of righteousness. Sin is protean. It is a cancer that keeps mutating, and just when you think you have killed off one form, it turns out a deadlier strain yet is threatening your heart.
Recalibrating your sin monitor

There is a paradox about sin: it may be impossible to know how well you're doing at battling it. People who are in great physical shape usually know it. Musicians who have honed their craft could generally tell you how.

But when is the last time someone whose soul you deeply admire said to you: "I have really been on a roll when it comes to overcoming sin lately"? Those souls among us who are doing the best in contesting it don't seem to think they're doing particularly well. Maybe this is more than just modesty or neurosis. Maybe they're aware of the insidious danger.

For the most part, we simply do not have that understanding about sin.
Recognizing the badness of sin

I re-read Neal Plantinga's Not The Way It's Supposed to Be: A Breviary of Sin on a regular basis. In fact, if this article does nothing else, it will be worth writing if it convinces you to read his book once every few years.

He writes of how we have largely lost awareness of sin; how sin was once something Christians hated, feared, grieved, and fled; now when we see the word at all it tends to be on menus ("Sinful Chocolate Decadence"wink.

However, the awareness of sin cannot be recovered simply by trying to crank up the volume when we talk about it. Merely saying loudly and often that sin is bad will not create the tectonic shift needed in our souls. We need to thoroughly understand what it is that is bad about sin, which is power to corrupt the goodness of life:

"Sin is both the overstepping of a line and the failure to reach it—both transgression and shortcoming. Sin is a missing of the mark, a spoiling of goods, a staining of garments, a hitch in one's gait, a wandering from the path, a fragmenting of the whole. Sin is what culpably disturbs shalom. Sinful human life is a caricature of proper human life."

We often speak of how people cannot comprehend the wonder of grace unless they grasp the badness of sin. And that is true. But it is equally true that people cannot grasp the badness of sin until they grasp the goodness of the life that sin corrupts.

When we do not understand the destructiveness of sin, we are more concerned about getting punished for our sins than the way we are punished by them.
Does God tire of forgiving the same sins?

Does the persistence of sin in my life threaten my salvation? People don't generally ask aloud, but they wonder: How much sin can there be in my life before I need to start worrying? In other words, is there a level of sin that is in the acceptable zone for a Christian, but if you go higher, you're in danger—like the level of mercury in Lake Michigan? Is there a low tolerance for impurity—like FDA standards for homogenized milk? Or is it more like the purity standards for hot dogs—lots of room for junk?

Is it possible to be a Christian and just never grow?

The problem with these is that they are the wrong questions. The issue is not whether God will stop forgiving sins. Jesus told Peter he needed to forgive an offender not seven times, but seventy times seven. And he wasn't saying Peter could withhold forgiveness for transgression number 491.

Jesus' point was that forgiving is always the right response to sincere repentance. God is not worried that he might be taken advantage of. He is not afraid that some bad boy will use his charm to put one over on heaven.

The problem is that, eventually, I become as used to my sin as I am to the watch on my wrist. I habituate. It doesn't bother me any more. I stop even wanting to be rid of it.

Sin damages my capacity for God. Sin blinds. The danger is not that God won't respond to my repeated repentance; the danger is that I might become so ensnared that I become simply unable or unwilling to repent. This is the dynamic at work when Paul says, "And God gave them over to a depraved mind."

So the question isn't "How much sin am I allowed?" The question is "Am I moving toward the darkness or toward the light? Am I growing toward God, or away from him? Am I becoming more sensitive and responsive to Jesus?"

It is because of this that sin is to be taken so seriously. Paul says to the church at Galatia: "Brothers and sisters, if someone is caught in a sin, you who live by the Spirit should restore that person gently. But watch yourselves, or you also may be tempted."

He doesn't just say: "Invoke church discipline if there's a sexual scandal." He says we're to help one another move toward freedom from sin. From all kinds of sin.

It is interesting in our day that many churches speak much of Matthew 18:15 and the need for values around resolving conflict. But that is only one application of the larger need stated in Galatians 6:1, which is for Christians not just to confront conflict but more generally to confront sin.

This can be done in a way that is not judgmental, because the reality is that we are in no position to judge the actual amount of spiritual growth that has taken place in another person; we do not see the genetic material they wrestle with; we do not know the forces that have shaped them.

Frank Laubach preached the gospel to a tribe that had a long history of violence. The chief was so moved by Laubach's presentation that he accepted Christ on the spot. He then turned to Laubach in gratitude and said, "This is wonderful. Who do you want me to kill for you?"

That's his starting point.

I was raised in a church where the Scriptures were taught, given parents who loved me and each other, in a city where being a Protestant Christian was considered normal. So if I think I am superior to the chief because I'm less likely to kill somebody, I'm sadly deluded.

The question is: Am I moving toward the light, and helping others do the same? If I see someone trapped in sin and do nothing to try to help, that is not love. It is the sin of conniving. Conspiring to allow sin to flourish and human life to suffer.

Awakening healthy guilt

As a leader I have to ask myself, "What are the sins in my congregation (and my life) that no one feels guilty over?"

Do I have the courage to awaken guilt?

Taylor Branch wrote how in Montgomery, Alabama, in the 1950s bus drivers would accept money from African-American riders, but then would make them disembark and walk on the sidewalk to re-enter through the rear door lest they touch a white person going down the center aisle.

Sometimes, for the fun of cruelty, drivers would take the money and drive off while the person was walking toward the back door, leaving them without fare or transportation.

There was a sin of anger here. But it was not that black people got angry.

It was that white people did not.

Worse, it was that white people, who read the Bible and worshiped in church, did not rise up in fury to demand justice.

Are we lifting up and recognizing and encouraging the sin-convicting ministry of the Holy Spirit?

At Willow Creek recently, Bill Hybels preached a series called "Enough." After one of the sermons, he challenged members of the congregation to raise their hands if they were willing to surrender their possessions and lifestyles fully to God and actually decide to use their resources to serve the poor and honor God. There was a time for public declaration of intent.

Then Bill said he wanted to have a word with all the folks who did not raise their hands. And this is what he said: "I hope you have a terrible afternoon. And then I hope you have a terrible evening. I hope the Holy Spirit keeps after you, and you have to keep thinking this one through, until you're able to raise your hand as well."

Sins I know and sins I don't

But what's most difficult about sin isn't so much what to do about sin in the congregation I serve. It's what to do about the sin in me! The hard part of sin is my sin.

I get angry at people for not doing what I want. I avoid confrontation I know is needed because I want to avoid pain. I am apathetic toward injustice. I lust. I use other people. I manipulate. I get defensive. I am ungrateful for blessings. I withdraw.

Sometimes I am aware of my sin as I'm doing it.

The other night my wife asked me if I had someone's number on my cell phone. I immediately said no. The truth was, I was pretty sure it was on my phone, but I didn't want to take the ten seconds needed to look. I didn't want to tell her that, so I said no.

Then I felt bad.

So I had to stop, look my wife in the eye, and tell her that I lied to her, and that the reason for my lie was that I didn't want to give up ten seconds. (It turns out the number wasn't on my cell phone after all. Hmm. Are you lying if it turns out by accident you were telling the truth?)

It was humiliating and embarrassing, and is so small that even in the telling, it makes me look more sensitive to sin than I really am.

Sometimes my sin is so close to me, like my skin, I don't even know it's there.

What matters most, I suppose, is not so much that I am trying to reduce the sin factor. It's that I come to love the life God has created, the shalom God cherishes, and hate the sin that corrupts it, not because I am so "righteous" but because that life is so good.

Can my sin ever be totally tamed? Not in this life. Much of the sin that is in me I'm not even conscious of yet. As I grow more spiritually aware, I'll see deficits I don't have the sensitivity to see right now.

But even the sins I'm aware of are constantly tempting me. The Bible says, "We wrestle … ." We wrestle—not against flesh and blood. We wrestle—and as we faithfully wrestle, God allows us victories along the way. We wrestle—and as we wrestle, a Friend greater than we know is somehow at work wrestling in us and for us and through us.

The greatest sin would be to stop wrestling.

John Ortberg is pastor of Menlo Park Presbyterian Church in Menlo Park, California, and editor at large of Leadership.

Copyright © 2009 by the author or Christianity Today International/Leadership Journal.
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Politics / Re: Why Did Obj Force Yar Adua On Us? by JJYOU: 10:42am On Jul 01, 2009
informat09:

really nigerians, we have to emulate whats happening in iran and take to the streets and protest whats happening in this country, frankly nothin is happening in this country right now.

we are at the mercy of dumb and selfish leaders who don't give a damn about us, we need to start a mass movement thatwill usher in credible elections and a true democratic movement in this country
mostly cowards
Religion / Re: Hero Muslim Saves Jew From Christian Thugs by JJYOU: 10:40am On Jul 01, 2009
javalove:

most of u guys on NL are insincere. A muslim does something good, u didnt feel its his faith that inspired him to help, despite the wahala b/w muslims and jews

now a muslim does something bad, u dont crucify him, u crucify his faith

na una sabi
sincere man have you fisnished your gambling software?

you are the most sincere man
Religion / Re: Update On Gombe Muslim Students That Murdered A Female Christian Teacher by JJYOU: 10:35am On Jul 01, 2009
well having a sharia loving man as president is a license to kill and get away with it
Religion / Re: Nairaland Christian E-Fellowship by JJYOU: 10:32am On Jul 01, 2009
July 1st.



THE INEVITABLE PENALTY


"Verily I say unto thee, Thou shalt by no means come out thence, till thou have paid the uttermost farthing." Matthew 5:26

There is no heaven with a little corner of hell in it. God is determined to make you pure and holy and right; He will not allow you to escape for one moment from the scrutiny of the Holy Spirit. He urged you to come to judgment right away when He convicted you, but you did not; the inevitable process began to work and now you are in prison, and you will only get out when you have paid the uttermost farthing. "Is this a God of mercy, and of love?" you say. Seen from God's side, it is a glorious ministry of love. God is going to bring you out pure and spotless and undefiled; but He wants you to recognize the disposition you were showing - the disposition of your right to yourself. The moment you are willing that God should alter your disposition, His recreating forces will begin to work. The moment you realize God's purpose, which is to get you rightly related to Himself and then to your fellow men, He will tax the last limit of the universe to help you take the right road. Decide it now - "Yes, Lord, I will write that letter to-night"; "I will be reconciled to that man now."

These messages of Jesus Christ are for the will and the conscience, not for the head. If you dispute the Sermon on the Mount with your head, you will blunt the appeal to your heart.

"I wonder why I don't go on with God?" Are you paying your debts from God's standpoint? Do now what you will have to do some day. Every moral call has an "ought" behind it.
Religion / Re: Nairaland Christian E-Fellowship by JJYOU: 10:28am On Jul 01, 2009
Jeremiah 16 NLT
   
   [size=14pt]19 Lord, you are my strength and fortress,
      my refuge in the day of trouble!
   Nations from around the world
      will come to you and say,
   “Our ancestors left us a foolish heritage,
      for they worshiped worthless idols.
   20 Can people make their own gods?
      These are not real gods at all!”
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   21 The Lord says,
   “[size=16pt]Now I will show them my power;
      now I will show them my might.
   At last they will know and understand
      that I am the Lord[/size].
[/size]
Politics / Re: Exposed - Ibori's Role In Abacha's Killer Squad! by JJYOU: 10:22am On Jul 01, 2009
mmmm Lord have mercy
Family / Re: Marriage And Bank Account(s) by JJYOU: 10:05am On Jul 01, 2009
mrsb:

I think its ok. We always used to have joint account for house stuff (50/50) and our own private accounts when we lived in the UK. I liked that hubby didn't see how much I blow on shoes, manicures etc!!

Funnily enough now we are in Nigeria, we don't even have a joint account and his finances are a lot more private!! Think its just the norm here.
mmm that is naija mind for you. plan B and "just in case" as i am learning on NL.
Travel / Re: Pls I Want A Detailed Procedure On Obtaining Visa To Dubai by JJYOU: 9:58am On Jul 01, 2009
sfdaram:

@JJYOU

you asked me if am on drug in why single girls date married men post/topic? same you asking me if there is anywhere nigerians can travel without visa? so you dont know countries that are visa free to nigeria only to insult on the forum.
read my question again.
Travel / Re: Thinking Of Moving To Ireland - Leilah Pls Read! by JJYOU: 9:50am On Jul 01, 2009
Mrs.Oyibo:

Hello All,
I'm thinking of moving to Ireland (Dublin) with my Nigerian husband. I'm Irish myself, but I've been living in the UK for the past 11 years so I don't really know all that much about what goes on there anymore. Can anyone who actually living in Ireland already let me know what me, my husband and our daughter (16mths old) can expect when we get there please?

What is the cost of living? Food shopping, utility bills, mobile bills etc?
How easy is to find work?
Is registering with the GNIB as straightforward as it appears?
How expensive is childcare?
Will we be able to claim benefits while we're looking for work initially?
What is the best part of Dublin to live in?
What is the average cost of a 2-3 bedroom house? How easy to find one?
Is education still fairly decent there?
How accepting are people of mixed race couples?
If living in Dublin is it necessary to have a car or will public transport suffice?
How easy will it be to open a bank account?

I look forward to your replies!




dont u have family/ friends in ireland? only away for 11yrs
Crime / Re: Best Job In Town Hangmen Wanted! Only 4 In The Whole Country • Nigerians Apply by JJYOU: 9:47am On Jul 01, 2009
Lagosboy:

perhaps if the pay is high enough . this might be a sure way of ridding our society of hired assasins as they will now get a job as legal assasins. the prison authopriitesould jerk up the pay and watch all the hired assasins that usually have their peak season during electioneering times.
i knew you waz going to being interested in this.
Romance / Re: Am Afraid Of A White Garment Church Goer(female) by JJYOU: 9:32am On Jul 01, 2009
Pittbaby:

[size=14pt]There are people who go to mainstream churches and still go to Baba Alawo with your picture after service to put you in bottle[/size]. So the white garment church thing should not be translated to mean they are the only source of fetish gfriends. You should only date someone who has similar a religious background with you, or be  prepared to learn about their background

So if you are not a fellow white garment church goer , and you are not ready to explore the practices of her particular parish.  Please leave the girl alone, then you will have no course to  fear that Emere will come and flog you in your dreams, when you break her heart.  

grin  grin grin Only in Naija !!!
noetic2:

most anti-white garment opinions are largely born out of IGNORANCE.

Instead of reacting always ask them questions about the white garment churches they dislike so much. . . .u will realise that they have little or no idea of the subject matter.
thanks to both of you.  nigerians are quick to call oyinbos racist yet they display this level of wickedness plus the small matter of tribalism without shame.
Romance / Re: Cheating by JJYOU: 11:03am On Jun 30, 2009
been there and it hurts like nothing else
Romance / Re: Please Some One Help Me by JJYOU: 11:00am On Jun 30, 2009
obxddon:

No
I have not shagged her, we have not even see each other face to face

She has been inviting me to come down to warri but I have been declining based on my thougts and feelingss,


So I ahve answered the question, NO I HAVE NOT SHAGGED HER !!!
good
TV/Movies / Re: Dbanj's Nu Reality Show Tagged "koko Mansion" by JJYOU: 10:52am On Jun 30, 2009
are people supposed to vote for this like other shows?
Politics / Re: North Trades IGP Seat For Customs Top Job by JJYOU: 10:47am On Jun 30, 2009
iniguy:

Typical Nigerian mentality! The office of comptroller general of customs is more lucrative than that of inspector general of police so why blame them for going after the fattest bone?
that is naija for you. custom get higher bribe than 20naira plus all the illegals can be brought in without questions.
Family / Re: Where And How To Meet Guys Ready 4 Marriage by JJYOU: 10:45am On Jun 30, 2009
my robe people no dey do refund after 6 months so you may need to take out insurance cos i will sue both of you for emotional damage.

seriously do enjoy the journet
Family / Re: Disavantages Of Marrying Someone Who Have A Baby by JJYOU: 10:42am On Jun 30, 2009
wbb
Religion / Re: Christmas Should be Replaced! by JJYOU: 10:35am On Jun 30, 2009
May kelly:

There is but only ONE KING of Kings " Jesus Christ".

olumba is never and can never and his never the kings of kings.

[size=28pt]Even in the grave Jesus is LORD. [/size]

DO not be decived!
[size=38pt]Jesus the Christ [/size]
Religion / Re: Pentecostalism: A Weak Form Of Christianity by JJYOU: 10:32am On Jun 30, 2009
wbb
Religion / Re: Christain View Point On Long Hair, Tattoos, Body Piercing And The Way We Dress by JJYOU: 10:31am On Jun 30, 2009
topup:

Not trying to cut the conversation short, but when the majority of us, including myself, have not mastered the art of treating our neighbours as we would like to be treated and also loving the Lord our God with all our hearts, why are we panicking about piercings and superficial and peripheral things?

What do you honestly think determines whether someone is walking with God, their behaviour or the decorations on their body?

How do we know we're not being conditioned by society? How do we know that if female ear-piercing was also taboo that we wouldn't add that onto our 'No' list?

My friend last year refused to cut her hair, I asked her why and she told me that a woman told her that if she continued to cut her hair she would go to hell. The woman herself, with her un-cut hair, is she guaranteed a place in heaven - answer anyone?

I think we have to try and not get sidetracked. I agree with JeSoul's comments specifically; We are not bound by Old Testament Laws nor is everything that is permissable is benefical. And not everything beneficial is actually possible to carry out.

I think as Christians we are still struggling to leave the Old concepts behind, about the strict laws of life, for those of us who still need strict laws, there are the 10 commandments and the two most important are emphasised by Jesus, repeated; to love God with all our hearts and treat our neighbours the way we would want to be treated. So what if you don't have any piercings and your hair is grown to the required or advised length, will that get you closer to God??

As for the signs and occult references, I have never been superstitious, and I believe it works in both ways, I have never believed in witchcraft and believed I had magical powers that would give me an advantage, nor have I ever believed if I broke a mirror I'd be cursed, or if some bitter woman on the street yells a curse at me and my unborn child that I would be at a disadvantage.

I only believe in God.


I disagree, I believe claiming it exists gives it some power that it would not have if you don't believe it exists. Once you become aware of it, you are cautious of it, subconsciously you are aware of it's 'power'. I don't believe any of that stuff has power over me, nothing significant once compared to the power of the protection of God over me.

Once you start searching for eyes, signs, links, you are practically as involved as someone who is actively and willingly participating in such things, of course, you are trying to minimise contact with such things, and remove all idols and signs from your immediate surroundings, but I believe these things can distract us from the bigger picture. As long as you are not devoting time to these idols, or worshipping them, then I don't believe you should worry too much, after all anyone can make an idol or symbol out of anything.

I don't believe God is that crucial over such things;

II Kings 5v 18
"In this thing may the Lord pardon your servant; when my master [the king] goes into the house of [his god] Rimmon to worship there, and he leans on my hand and I bow myself in the house of Rimmon, when I bow down myself in the house of Rimmon, may the Lord pardon your servant in this thing."

Here Naaman the commander of the army (but)'servant' of the King of Syria asks God to forgive him as he bows down in the house of Rimmon. Bowing down to another God, he understood that such a thing could upset God and is not right, but he pleaded that God would look into his heart. In all honesty at this point Naaman did not believe in Rimmon, but he knew that he would lose his position if he did not help the king, he knew that the King of Syria (being aged) could not bow down by himself, so now Naaman would have to bow before another god/idol.

Verse 19 "Elisha said to him, Go in peace.
So Naaman departed from him a little way."




is this REV (DR) WOLI TOPUP i see before me? are u also amongsts the wolis? this seun place hide loads of secrets.
Politics / Re: Two Members Of The Federal House Of Reps Exchange Blows by JJYOU: 10:18am On Jun 30, 2009
agberos and thugs will always be agberos anywhere.

shameless thugs
Politics / Re: Nigeria Not Among Top Africa'shining Eg! Developin Into Somalia Under Pdp Morons by JJYOU: 10:15am On Jun 30, 2009
same in year 2090
Religion / Re: Nairaland Christian E-Fellowship by JJYOU: 10:08am On Jun 30, 2009
[size=28pt]DO IT NOW[/size]


"Agree with thine adversary quickly." Matthew 5:25

Jesus Christ is laying down this principle - Do what you know you must do, now, and do it quickly; if you do not, the inevitable process will begin to work and you will have to pay to the last farthing in pain and agony and distress. God's laws are unalterable; there is no escape from them. The teaching of Jesus goes straight to the way we are made up.

To see that my adversary gives me my rights is natural; but Jesus says that it is a matter of eternal and imperative importance to me that I pay my adversary what I owe him. From our Lord's standpoint it does not matter whether I am defrauded or not; what does matter is that I do not defraud. Am I insisting on my rights, or am I paying what I owe from Jesus Christ's standpoint?

Do the thing quickly, bring yourself to judgment now. In moral and spiritual matters, you must do it at once; if you do not, the inexorable process will begin to work. God is determined to have His child as pure and clean and white as driven snow, and as long as there is disobedience in any point of His teaching, He will prevent none of the working of His spirit. Our insistence in proving that we are right is nearly always an indication that there has been some point of disobedience. No wonder the Spirit so strongly urges to keep steadfastly in the light!

"Agree with thine adversary quickly." Have you suddenly turned a corner in any relationship and found that you had anger in your heart? Confess it quickly, quickly put it right before God, be reconciled to that one - do it now.
http://www.myutmost.org/06/0630.html
Family / Re: What Should A Good Wife Do With Her Earnings? by JJYOU: 10:00am On Jun 30, 2009
benedictac:

thanks JJYOU,

i am not bluffing here, God knows i am saying the truth. In my present parish, by the grace of God started the single sisters' forum where they will be taught on how to handle their home and there will be peace.

Is not as if my husband and i dont quarell atleast we are not saints, but we settle our differences.

What i am saying a nut shell is that young ladies (both married and yet to be married) the secret of a good marriage are

i.   set you home on the solid rock (Jesus)

ii.  Submit to your husband in every way

God bless you.  happy/ blessed are you for knowing this.  my ma inlaw says only mad people argue against themselves. Christ is always the rock with fresh waters that never fails

i cant remember the thread exactly but i remember a lady here being attacked for saying she set up the kitchen in her home. i dont know any sensible man who knows is back is fully covered by the wife that wont let her be the queen of her castle.  like your hubby the mrs runs everything in the house/ family that is becos i trust her with my life.  she is a blessing and good team player.  

if most women know how important and easy it is to get your man as your best friend they would stop all the   unnecesary & unhealthy craving for controversy and  quarrels some enjoy so much.  the danish say "Wise men do not quarrel with each other".  that is wisdom.

the ability and power of strife to ruin a good family has not been well explored by many.  if you can avoid quarrels and strife in your home you are almost gauranteed to achieve whatever you set out to do by Gods grace. the psalms said violence and noise should not be in our street let alone home.  relationships dont have to be nightmares and battle ground.  it is always a place to relate, share and not divide or go soloand lonely as some have made it.

i know we come from background where we have to fight to survive but we must come to the stage where we learn it is wrong and begin not to tolerate it especially in our family and relationships because the main looser is always you and your partner.
benedictac:

my reponses are not contracdictory. I cant be a housewife meaning that i cant stay at home doing nothing and waiting for a man to give everything.

I give my earnings to my husband does not mean he depends on it. The money he makes in a week is more than my one month salary. So he doesnt need my money but [size=16pt]it only shows me an excellent wife.[/size]
the bible says in Prv. [size=28pt]An excellent wife who can find[/size]?[/color]
thanks you make great sense. you give us hope that there are sensible minority still amongst us. God bless you and the continue to help you find peace and grace for yourself and family.
Crime / Blood Oath Scandal: Ogun Lawmaker Admits - Says Gov Forced Him - No, I’m Not In by JJYOU: 9:14am On Jun 30, 2009
[size=16pt] Blood oath scandal: Ogun lawmaker admits - Says gov forced him[/size] - No, I’m not involved - Daniel

Soji-Eze Fagbemi, Abuja - 30.06.2009

A member of the Ogun State House of Assembly, Honourable Wale Alausa, who was alleged to have sworn to an oath at a shrine in Ijebu-Igbo, on Monday, admitted the claim, but said that he did it for Governor Gbenga Daniel.

Moreover, he said the oath taking was done out of intimidation and threat to life and confessed that he was indeed the one in the photographs published in a national newspaper on Monday.

Alausa, who represents Ijebu-Ode State Constituency in the House, in a telephone interview with the Nigerian Tribune in Abeokuta, said that the oath was done at the private residence of Governor Daniel in Ijebu-Ode with the support of some prominent traditional rulers in the land.

The embattled lawmaker, who is one of the Group-15 that is opposed to the governor, added that there was so much pressure on him, including assassination attempts on his nephews and his immediate family members.

He also said that members of the Group-11 took the same oath and that their photographs were in the custody of Governor Daniel. According to him, “I took the oath. I was harassed, intimidated and forced to take the oath. When the pressure was too much, prominent traditional rulers and prominent people also knew about it. They put pressure on me through my father.

“There was an assassination attempt. There was a kidnapping attempt on my nephews, children of my younger brother. It was such a terrible thing. I could not do otherwise because there was real threat to my life.
“There were several gun shots in front of my father’s house in Ijebu-Ode, Alhaji Agboola Alausa, who is the Ogun East senatorial Chairman (of the PDP).

“The photograph was taken in Daniel’s toilet and bathroom, but the other photograph was super imposed. I did not take any photograph outside the house.

“I took the oath on the day Titi Oseni was impeached as Speaker, that was why I was not at plenary session that day?”“I was deceived,” he said. Meanwhile, the Ogun State Governor, Chief Gbenga Daniel, has denied claims by Hon. Alausa, that the administration of oath on his person was done at his private residence in Ijebu-Ode.

Daniel said this through his Chief Press Secretary, Mr. Adegbenro Adebanjo, that the claim was absolute falsehood, saying it was a mere fiction.

According to him, “There was nothing like that. It is absolute falsehood. The governor does not engage himself in odious practice, so those involved should come out clean, instead of mis-informing the public.

“His claim is mere clutching at straw. This is a fiction of the highest order. We dissociate ourselves from this claim.”
Romance / Re: Guys ! We You Marry Her? by JJYOU: 9:13am On Jun 30, 2009
buy your one way ticket to dublin and enjoy being a kept man. u want easy life abi?
Family / Re: What Should A Good Wife Do With Her Earnings? by JJYOU: 8:58am On Jun 30, 2009
by general NL standard it will be to build her own house and save for day the man throws her out or dies without much left for her.
benedictac:

Bro. if i got you right, that means you will regard her well if she brough her earnings to show u either by supporting or in any way. Now a good wife is her husband's glory, if she does this all the time, the man will give up anything for her except of course the man is a case would appreciate her.

my home depite the fact that i handle the family account (the sole signatory to the account) i still take my cash (salary) and any other home to my husband. and i believe that is why the man has given me the total control of the family finance.

My dear sisters, let ur hubby be the head that God has made him, do ur part by being submissive and leave the rest for God.

Bro. can you trust your wife to the extent of leaving the family finances in her hands? That is what submission and being a prudent wife can do.

bless you.  you wont start saving and having plan B.  thank God there are still people of good virtue amongst us. 

a good wife is always from God.

by the way why do teenagers and people yet to find a boy friend let alone a husband feel it safe to talk on on these matters?
Romance / Re: Do People Really Value Virgin Anymore by JJYOU: 8:52am On Jun 30, 2009
ichommy:

when ponding the issue with my friend saying grin when guy is dating a lady when the lady told the guy is a virgin and most og the guy says that is the reason i want to have sex cos some guy thinks when they disflower a lady the lady will like them so much cos they will remeber that is the on that disflower them :oand on the other side some lady says the guy that disflower must mwrry them please what is your own view my fellow nairaland
search for views on NL. this has been well treated here already.
Crime / Re: Female Fraudster Dupes Victim Of N8m - Robbers Snatch Woman’s Car, Fling Her Ba by JJYOU: 8:50am On Jun 30, 2009
HNIC:

If this is true, has it really gotten this BAD in Nigeria?
u got to believe our people are this calous
Crime / Re: Best Job In Town Hangmen Wanted! Only 4 In The Whole Country • Nigerians Apply by JJYOU: 8:45am On Jun 30, 2009
oyinda.:

only 4 in the whole country??
this job isn't publicized enough.
I'm sure if more ppl knew such a job existed, the criminology dept in universities will be filled. 'cause i'm sure of all countries in the world, [size=14pt]nigeria has an impressive amount of coldhearted ppl.[/size]

true words

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