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luxoire:
i agree with whitelexi -

small Jealousy that is controlled and contained is good, healthy even. But when it gets out of hand, then there's a problem.

Its like everything really - good in small doses!

healthy jealousy is ok but how do you define that?

[size=18pt]Jesus Christ is Everything - Paul Washer[/size]

this is something to think about

http://www.tangle.com/view_video.php?viewkey=8742977b76e3475fae47 &utm_source=newsletter0629&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=weeklytopvideos

ifound this video interesting

Jesus Christ is Everything - Paul Washer

http://www.tangle.com/view_video.php?viewkey=8742977b76e3475fae47 &utm_source=newsletter0629&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=weeklytopvideos

Gov Daniel treacherous –Alausa
By RAZAQ BAMIDELE and WILLY EYA
Wednesday, July 1, 2009

The controversy over blood oath taking in Ogun State deepened on Tuesday as the embattled lawmaker Wale Alausa alleged that virtually all elected officers were compelled to take allegiance oath to support Governor Gbenga Daniel. The lawmaker, flanked by his colleagues including the Speaker of the State House of Assembly, Tunji Egbetokun made the allegation at a press conference in Lagos.

Alausa whose nude picture was taken while taking blood oath was published in the media re-emphasised before journalists that Governor Daniel was the mastermind of the fetish act, which according to him, was being manipulated to blackmail him.

“I was used, dumped and abused by the same man that is now trying to pin a label of a fetish oath taker on me,” he said, describing Daniel as a treacherous individual. The lawmaker nearly broke down in tears while relating the harrowing experience he allegedly went through in the hands of the state governor.

“When the story about the oath-taking first came out, my first instinct was to hide myself given the shame and ridicule that the Governor of Ogun State, Otunba Gbenga Daniel, is trying to put my family to. But following spiritual advice to that effect, I have no choice but to continue with what my conscience had earlier asked me to do, struggle for justice on behalf of my immediate constituency in Ijebu Ode, and Ogun State citizens in general.

“Friends, colleagues and people that I don’t even know have been calling me all kinds of names with abuses for taking a fetish oath. Some even went as far as to say I am a desperate politician who wants to remain in office to enjoy the spoils of politics by all means necessary. To such people, I say, forgive me. I am sorry. But you also need to understand where I am coming from and why I did what was reported by Otunba Gbenga Daniel’s newspaper in a manipulative way. I was used, dumped and abused by the same man that is now trying to pin a label of a fetish oath-taker on me.

“As a Yoruba, and an Ijebu for that matter, I am not an Omo Ale (bastard). I challenge you journalists here and those of your colleagues in Ogun State to go back and check my past activities as a member of the Ogun State House of Assembly. I was a very vibrant member of the Group of 15 credible legislators who declared through our removal of Hon. Titilayo Oseni as Speaker last year that we’ve had enough of civilian dictatorship in Ogun State. We stood our ground despite physical and spiritual threats to our lives. We were called names. They even said we took money from the former Lagos State Governor, Asiwaju Bola Tinubu, to effect Oseni’s removal. But to God be the glory that the people of Ogun State and Nigerians interested in the affairs of our state have seen through that falsehood.

“Now, back to the issue of Omo Ale. It may surprise you to know that my father is the Chairman of the Ogun East Senatorial District of the Peoples Democratic (PDP). He is a well-respected title-holder as Otun Balogun of Ijebuland. Following our action against Oseni last year, pressures were mounted on my father to prevail on me to withdraw my support for the Speaker, Rt. Hon. Tunji Egbetokun. My father knows he has a principled son. His response to Otunba Gbenga Daniel each time such pressure came was that his son is an adult with a family of his own, who is able to take decisions without recourse to him.

However, when the pressures on my father became too much, he became the butt of jokes in party circles. It was as if he could not control his son. Suddenly, a non-existent Ogun East Elders Council was formed by Otunba Gbenga Daniel to usurp the functions of the constitutionally recognised Ogun East Senatorial District Executive headed by my father. Daddy was thoroughly disgraced wherever he went in the state by agents of Otunba Gbenga Daniel. Nevertheless, he did not budge. He left me to decide what is best for my constituency without putting any pressure on me. But the involvement of our royal father, (names withheld) by Otunba Gbenga Daniel, I believe, made my father bent a rule which he imbibed in us from childhood that, once we believe in something we should face it squarely without fear of anyone except Almighty Allah (SWT).

“You may want to check past editions of your newspapers to confirm what I am about to say. Somewhere along the line, the G-15 became G-14. This was celebrated in Otunba Gbenga Daniel’s newspaper as well as others without mentioning my name. But I hereby confess I was the one who left the group to pledge allegiance to the Governor following the untold pressure on my dad, especially the need to respect our royal father. The condition of pledging allegiance to Otunba Gbenga Daniel was humiliating, but before the Almighty Allah who created me, I stuck to my guns that unless he also took the same oath, I will refuse to do so.

“You might then wonder how the photograph came about. Long before then, especially before the 2007 elections shortly after the party primaries, Otunba Gbenga Daniel, had ensured that most, if not all those seeking elective offices took the oath of allegiance to him. You can ask your colleagues in Ogun State, if they are honest, they will also tell you that there is no Council Chairman that did not take the oath before their elections. But at that time, they know my background and they know such a thing could not be forced on me because the role I’ll play in the election will even be more than all of them combined together. So, I was left alone. But it was my dad they believed will hold me anytime they want.

“One thing I thank God for in all of these is that the confidence of my colleagues which I betrayed because I do not want to be labelled an Omo Ale has been restored by God Himself. Because how can one explain Otunba Gbenga Daniel’s release of a photograph he took deceitfully? I know he has been angry because he expected I’ll return to the G-15 and begin passing details of our meeting to him. But I refused. The oath I took was to the effect that I will not be among those who will impeach him from office.

It did not include spying on my colleagues. Part of the argument was that as an Ijebu, I should not allow the Egba to disgrace our son, Otunba Gbenga Daniel. I agreed after that pressure from my dad. But it was a reluctant decision, which I made as a dutiful Yoruba son to a father who has been everything to me.”
Speaking further at the press conference, Alausa who represents Ijebu Ode state constituency alleged that Governor Daniel ensured that elected officers take the oath of allegiance shortly after primaries of the People Democratic Party (PDP) before the last election in the state.

Alausa maintained that he was not alone and gave graphic details of how the state governor subjected the assembly members and other elected officers to take oath before the last general election in the state.

Nude pictures: Publish more if you have any
By Moshood Adebayo, Abeokuta
Wednesday, July 1, 2009
Photo: The Sun Publishing
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The leadership of the Ogun State House of Assembly has dared Ogun State Governor, Otunba Gbenga Daniel, who they identified as the sole proprietor of the Compass Newspaper that published an obscene picture of one of them to go ahead and publish more.

The newspaper last Monday published a nude picture of Hon. Wale Alausa where it was alleged that the member representing Ijebu-Ode State Constituency was involved in blood oath.

The newspaper also threatened to publish more of such messy pictures about the lawmakers who appeared to be against Governor Daniel’s administration in its subsequent editions.

Addressing a press conference at the Committee Room on Tuesday after a solidarity rally with Alausa who had earlier addressed a press conference in Lagos, the Speaker of the House, Hon. Tunji Egbetokun, described the development as unfortunate, messy and stinking.
“He (Daniel) caused the photograph to be published because he’s the owner of the paper. Let him publish other ones if he has them. The whole things is unfortunate, messy and stinking which I know he would be regretting by now.

“How could you publish such a photograph of a honourable member from the same party with you in your newspaper? He had acted on a bad advice of some people who surround him.
“Let him go ahead to publish more, but I know he does not have the pictures of any one of us here. If he has my own, let him publish it through all manners of publication anywhere and I can assure him I will not go to court.

“Why are they threatening us that they have more of such pictures. They did not tell us they had Hon. Alausa’s picture before they did what they did. Let me tell you if they had any more of such pictures, they would have posted that of Hon. Remi Hassan because he’s a pastor. That would have been more marketable for them than anybody else.”

Egbetokun, who was the immediate past secretary to the Obafemi-Owode Local Government also admitted that he once took oath of allegiance at the instance of Governor Daniel before the 2007 election.
“Yes, I once took oath of allegiance to Governor Daniel, that was during the 2007 election but I was not naked. It was right at his house in Sagamu.”

Egbetokun, who spoke in the presence of the G.15 member excluding Alausa, who though was within the Assembly complex but was attending to some people from his constituency listed some of the names of those that took the oath with him. Egbetokun, who said the House would investigate and take proper action on the Alausa’s saga also alleged that 80 percent of office holders are spiritualists.

Meanwhile, elders of the ruling Peopls Democratic Party (PDP) in Imeko-Afon Local Government Area of the state have described the allegation by Alausa as “mother of all deceptions”.
The Chairman of the forum, Chief Sina Adejobi described Alausa as a devilish man. “His admission that the photograph published in Monday’s edition of Nigerian Compass where he appeared naked while taking the blood oath had shown that he belongs to the kingdom of darkness. He should kneel down before God and pray for forgiveness otherwise, the wrath of God will be kindled upon him.”


http://www.sunnewsonline.com/webpages/news/national/2009/july/01/national-01-07-2009-04.htm

Lagosboy:
Everyone knows Nigeria and other west african countries are bigger culprits. There is hardly any middle class home in naija without house maids from togo , Benin and other parts of Nigeria. These kids dont even get the money as some older family members get the pay. The gulf countries pay their maids directly and most of the maids choose to go there from Phillipines, indonesia and some other countries.

The talk of sexual exploitation is just a joke , the other day there was a report of 10000 nigerian girls willing to go to italy for prostiution i bet those figure never made this list.

Italy is a major destination for African harlots, UK is a major destination for eastern european harlots as well, Thank God for their ascession to the EU.

The reprt is just a wishy washy and based on govt cooperation and not the actual volume.

lagosboy i am trying to keep loving you as i should but i find your defence of obscene behaviours in the name of islam offensive. must you reduce your life to religion and sentiments?

i have written here before of a pakistani ill treating a nigeria ( calabar) maid. i knew this personally cos they were neighbours. poor girl got raped and nearly got deported because she would not abort.

i know you are young but learn to be a member of the human race first before your religious head and heart shows up.

LadyT:
I cannt believe the people who are saing ti was not that bad went to the NIGERIAN EMBASSY IN LONDON!!!!!!!!!

That place is a hell hole!

Theres one old lady there behind the counter Lawd have mercy she is MAD!!!!!!!!

She screams at people randomly "what are you doing at the counter?  Who called you GO AND SIT DOWN!"  "MOVE AWAY FROM THE WINDOW"

If you are stuck at the back when she calls your number and take too long to get to the window Jesus you will see hell that day. Example

Crazy embassy lady:  "Number 67, number 67 ok number 68 number 68"
Number 67 is running to the front
Crazy embassy lady "where were you when we were calling your number?  Eh?  Where were you?  Did you not hear your number? You have missed your turn!"
Number 67 starts shouting like a madman


I hate that place

0% i give them. they are BADD. went there last year and they were stupid to the last man until the mad woman at the counter knew i had access to her boss.

kokorunna:
The Nigerian Embassy should be shut down, the last time I went there I was absolutely FURIOUS and DISAPPOINTED.

Below are some pointers I noticed.

1. The staff are very limited and they don't care about anybody. The people you know the better.
2. Everyone does whatever they want down there if you don't jump the queue and be smart, nobody will ever attend to you
3. I paid online to get my passport renewed and I expected that when I got there my passport will be ready. NO, I had to go and print out all the forms I submitted online despite having a receipt to confirm it.
4. The staff lack manners, very rude and the embassy itself is very dirty.
5. The online website is a JOKE
6. We are complain that the services in Nigeria are worst, I believe that the UK Embassy is even worsen that any other Embassy.
7. No leadership there, no management and nobody gives a tuss.
8. The place should be closed down, demolished and turn in an hostel for HOMELESS PEOPLE.
9. The people that run that place are IDIOTS, sorry to say but that's the honest truth.

i like that

chaircover:
I've been there about 15 times and I used to suffer this problem every time we went there. Staff were rude and unhelpful and there is always someone trying to jump the queue because he/she knows someone there and then a fight breaks out.

For some peculiar reason, the staff there seem to think they are doing you a favour; never mind their charges are high compared to other countries.

To cut a long story short, I had enough of it all and during my last trip to Nigeria, I went to Abuja and had an e-passport issued for the whole family at N10,000 each; No fuss.

Hopefully I won’t have any more business with the High commission in London……well not for another 10 years.

What they don't realise is that the money they have lost as a result of my applying for the N10,000 passport compared to the £70.00 per trip visa is lost forever

But then again; they probably never cared anyway. Crazy lot.  

they lost me and the mrs too. went to abuja in may to get hers so no more visa biz for a while.  they are stupidly stupid.  i know 2 people there who keep saying they have too much work load and they are not properly funded.  no excuse.

nethacker:
There is this argument going on in my office abt ladies/women.I said:

1)No matter how happily a woman may be married, it always pleases her to discover
that there is a nice man who wishes that she were not. 

2)Women are wiser than men because they know less and understand more.

3) Every woman is wrong until she cries, and then she is right, instantly

Opinion pls  

The guys argued but i want ladies opinion 

u are funny

A Marriage Without Regret Featuring Kay Arthur


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cr5jjXJLmxs


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QZE_IMOd58w

A Marriage Without Regret Featuring Kay Arthur


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cr5jjXJLmxs

[quote author=Tudór link=topic=289684.msg4117277#msg4117277 date=1246442434]Whats wrong with allowing people to dress how they like in church?
Does god look at your dressing?[/quote]a man of your mindset will like nude women going into churches.

Ogaga4Luv:
"For I am merciful, saith the Lord, and I will not keep anger forever." (Jeremiah 3:12)
"Ye have kindled a fire in mine anger, which shall burn forever." (Jeremiah 17:4)

"If I testify about myself, my testimony is not valid." (John 5:31)
"Jesus answered: Even if I testify on my own behalf, my testimony is valid." (John 8:14)

"And Jesus coming, spoke to them, saying: All power is given to me in heaven and in earth." (Matthew 28:18)
"the whole world is under control of the evil one." (1 John 5:19)

And Jesus said, "For judgement I am come into this world." (John 9:39)
"I came not to judge the world" (John 12:47)

"Let your light so shine before men, that they may see your good works, and glorify your Father which is in heaven." (Matthew 5:16)
"Take heed that ye do not your alms before men, to be seen of them: otherwise ye have no reward of your Father which is in heaven." (Matthew 6:1)

"Jacob said, 'I have seen God face to face, and my life is preserved.'" (Genesis 32:30)
"No man hath seen God at any time." (John 1:18)

We should fear God (Matthew 10:28)
We should love God (Matthew 22:37)
There is no fear in love (1 John 4:18)

The Arguments from Confusion and Biblical Defects

Foolery

"But anyone who says 'You fool!' will be in danger of the fire of hell." (Jesus) Mat 5:22

"You fools!" (Jesus) Luke 11:40
"You blind fools!" (Jesus) Mat 23:17
"How foolish you are" (Jesus) Luke 24:25

"But God said to him, 'You fool!' " (Jesus) Luke 12:20

"You foolish Galatians!" (St. Paul) Galatians 3:1
"You foolish man" James 2:20

(Also - Psalms 14:1 and again at 53:1 - you have to think me a fool because I have said in my heart that there is no God - oops, both of us in hell now!)

Feedback: This "foolery" section has been criticised and is discussed further here.

Jesus teaches us how to turn the cheek and forgive those who trespass against us,

"Whosoever shall deny me before men, him will I also deny before my Father." [Matt. x, 33.]

"Whosoever shall blaspheme against the Holy Ghost hath never forgiveness." [Mark iii, 29.]

"Moreover if thy brother shall trespass against thee , tell it unto the church: but if he neglect to hear the church, let him be unto thee as a heathen man and a publican." [Matt. xviii, 15-17.]

Rejoicing

"Do not rejoice when your enemy falls, and let not your heart be glad when he stumbles, If your enemy is hungry, give him bread to eat; and if he is thirsty, give him water to drink, He who rejoices at calamity shall not go unpunished." [Prov. 24:17; 25:21; 17:5]
"The Lord will rejoice over you to destroy you" [Deut. 28:63]
"The righteous will rejoice when he sees the vengeance, he will bathe his feet in the blood of the wicked" [Ps. 58:10]

Mercy

"Blessed are the merciful" [Matthew 5:7]
"Leave alive nothing that breathes. Show them no mercy." [Deut. 7:2]
"The Lord hardened their hearts, that they might receive no mercy." [Joshua 11:20]
"I will dash them one against another, even the fathers and the sons together, saith the Lord: I will not pity, nor spare, nor have mercy, but destroy them. A curse on him who is lax in doing the Lord's work! A curse on him who keeps his sword from bloodshed." [Jer. 13:14; 48:10]

Love?

"I will also send wild beasts among you, which shall rob you of your children." (Leviticus 26:22)

"Now kill all the boys. And kill every woman who has slept with a man, but save for yourself every girl who has never slept with a man." (Numbers 31:17-18)

"The Lord commands: ", slay old men outright, young men and maidens, little children and women" (Ezechial 9:4-6)

"When the Lord delivers it into your hand, put to the sword all the males , As for the women, the children, the livestock and everything else in the city, you may take these as plunder for yourselves." (Deuteronomy 20:13-14)

"You will eat the fruit of the womb, the flesh of the sons and daughters the Lord your God has given you." (Deuteronomy 28:53)

"The Lord said to Joshua [, ] 'you are to hamstring their horses.' " (Exceedingly cruel.) (Joshua 11:6)

", Go and smite the inhabitants of Jabesh-gilead with the edge of the sword and; also the women and little ones, every male and every woman that has lain with a male you shall utterly destroy." (Judges 21:10-12)

"This is what the Lord says: Now go and smite Amalek, and utterly destroy all that they have; do not spare them, but kill both man and woman, infant and suckling, ox and sheep, camel and ass , And Saul , utterly destroyed all the people with the edge of the sword." (1 Samuel 15:3,7-

"The people of Samaria must bear their guilt, because they have rebelled against their God. They will fall by the sword; their little ones will be dashed to the ground, their women with child ripped open." (Hosea 13:16)

"A curse on him who is lax in doing the LORD's work!
A curse on him who keeps his sword from bloodshed!" (Jeremiah 48:10)

Is this really the "word of God" or the cruel thoughts of Bronze age warriors?
Did you know this was in the bible? If not then are you shocked? If you did know it was there then is Christianity really about a healthy loving relationship or is it a case of the Stockholm syndrome?

Is God A Criminal?

The bible god admits he performs evil acts. (As if the above was not proof enough!)

A Christian wrote: "God did not create evil. Evil is simply the state where God is not present."

If "God did not create evil" then what of the following?

Isaiah 45:7
I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil: I the LORD do all these things.

Exodus 32:14
And the LORD repented of the evil which he thought to do unto his people.

Joshua 23:15
Therefore it shall come to pass, that as all good things are come upon you, which the LORD your God promised you; so shall the LORD bring upon you all evil things.

Judges 9:23
Then God sent an evil spirit

1 Samuel 16:14
But the Spirit of the LORD departed from Saul, and an evil spirit from the LORD troubled him.

2 Samuel 12:11
Thus saith the LORD, Behold, I will raise up evil against thee out of thine own house

1 Kings 9:9
, therefore hath the LORD brought upon them all this evil.

1 Kings 14:10
Therefore, behold, I will bring evil upon the house of Jeroboam

2 Kings 6:33 , Behold, this evil is of the LORD;

2 Kings 21:12 Therefore thus saith the LORD God of Israel, Behold, I am bringing such evil upon Jerusalem and Judah, that whosoever heareth of it, both his ears shall tingle.

2 Kings 22:16 Thus saith the LORD, Behold, I will bring evil upon this place

2 Chronicles 34:24 Thus saith the LORD, Behold, I will bring evil upon this place, and upon the inhabitants thereof,

Nehemiah 13:18 Did not your fathers thus, and did not our God bring all this evil upon us, and upon this city?

Jeremiah 4:6 Set up the standard toward Zion: retire, stay not: for I will bring evil from the north, and a great destruction.

Jeremiah 6:19 Hear, O earth: behold, I will bring evil upon this people

Jeremiah 11:11 Therefore thus saith the LORD, Behold, I will bring evil upon them

Jeremiah 25:29 For, lo, I begin to bring evil

Jeremiah 35:17 Therefore thus saith the LORD God of hosts, the God of Israel; Behold, I will bring upon Judah and upon all the inhabitants of Jerusalem all the evil that I have pronounced against them:

Jeremiah 44:2 Thus saith the LORD of hosts, the God of Israel; Ye have seen all the evil that I have brought upon Jerusalem, and upon all the cities of Judah

Jeremiah 45:5 , behold, I will bring evil upon all flesh, saith the LORD:

Jeremiah 49:37 , I will bring evil upon them, even my fierce anger, saith the LORD; and I will send the sword after them, till I have consumed them:

Micah 1:12 , evil came down from the LORD

Micah 2:3 Therefore thus saith the LORD; Behold, against this family do I devise an evil
"It is a counterfeit love that is contingent upon authority, punishment, or reward. True love is respect and admiration, compassion and kindness, freely given by a healthy, unafraid human being." - Dan Barker, Losing Faith in Faith

did u say your mum was a baptist preacher?

omo oloye:
Diamond Bank rocks.No hidden charges,easy and effecient transaction
of business.You can withdraw to zero balance,courteous staff etc

Diamond Bank is the most reliable bank in Nigeria presently
Bank with them and experience peace

we are beginning to get bankers blowing their horns here.

[quote author=chummy_bro link=topic=290474.msg4111741#msg4111741 date=1246358836]Hello to every woman on board and also to every man too, please I need your help. I want you all working in different organisation and Establishment to help me with maternity issues in your Establishments. these are the issues:
1) Pls how long is the maternity leave in your office or Establishment.
2) Pls during the leave, are you entitled to all the allowances as per your salary or is there any subtraction or addition?
3) Pls after the leave, when you final resume work, do you resume and also close with other colleagues?
4) pls do you have medicals in your Establishment? If yes, does it include you Delivery, or do sponsor it yourself?
5) pls in you Establishment, if you go on maternity leave this year, does it mean you can not go for maternity leave next year? must you stay up to two years after before you can go for maternity leave again?
6) whats the welfare package for a new born baby in your Establishment.

Please I need a reply to this topic, and a reliable reply. Even if you are not married ( I mean have not gone for maternity leave before, and you have an idea of how it is done in you Establishment, pls do well to send in your reply and my prayer is that soon you will go on such leave)

Men who have knowledge of this topic pls, send in your replies too. Thank you all as you give a good reliable reply to this.[/quote]u wan carry belle or wetin be all this baby thing all over the place?

sistawoman:
I made it thru just fine.

answered alot of questions and brought up more.

Recouping slowly and returned to work yesterday.

thank God. Jesus Christ makes you whole

debosky:


Na you dirty the fingers?   I suspect the girl is a fake - why a story about when she was 17 is coming up now is suspicious - not before they went to registry, not at any other point, and now suddenly she wants to have sex as well? Fishy fishy fishy.

debos your theory nawao.  she may just be more matured to handle this now.  i know we come from a society almost everyone lie as if our lives depends on it she could just be telling the truth.[quote author=Akin, UK link=topic=290766.msg4115827#msg4115827 date=1246403824]I have a girl friend for five years and when we met, she told me she was a virgin. Her mother equally told me the same story that her two female children were not waywards and I believed and I told her that so I am and never known any girl up till now. We moved together for 3yrs b4 I left Naija and I kept her as I met her. Before I left Naija more than two years ago, we went privately (only the two of us) to the registry to register the wedding.

Today, she was asking me whether I want to marry her because she told me she was a virgin but I have never thought of that question because all the ladies that have have been my friends have always been virgins. The last was the one we did MSc together in UI in 2003. I have never asked any of them and neither did I tell them that I have not known any woman. The way I used to discover used to be when I attempt to act as if I wanted to make love with them and they would tell me they have never done it b4 and I tell them mine story as well.

Now this my fiancee (already registered as wife) is now telling me that she is not sure because when she was in secondary school at 17yr old, his boy friend attempted to finger her but she shouted when she felt the pain and when the guy wanted to insert her screw, she prevented him by shouting. Now she said she is feeling she is still a virgin because she did not see any blood during the incident and did not know how far the guy's finger penetrated. She came to visit me in UK and wanted us to have sex but I told her we are yet to get the Godly and moral licence from God thru church wedding which we both aim to do soon.

Can a lady be a virgin and not sure??

Ladies and gentlemen of Naira land, what do you think of her and how do you think I shud react?[/quote]o boy well done for keeping yourself and saying no to temptation. still continue to keep yourself pure but make sure you go marry soon becos the body is no fire wood.  
on the small matter of being married in the registry you are already married because you were not able to keep God out of that registry room. He is everywhere. a pastor said there is always a silent listener/ witness everywhere.

i am not saying go and shag her now but that you are already married in Gods sight cos the govts are agents of God like the church.

Tosinmama:
GRA areas

GRA is full now. you may get some free land near or after ogba zoo.

be carefull on the net though

[quote author=chummy_bro link=topic=144035.msg2396334#msg2396334 date=1213957543]Please what is wrong When will this crisis stop, NIGER DELTA what is it? Please people of Niger Delta what exactly is you problem Especially Rivers State, You people of Niger Delta are fighting for what, that FG should do this and that for you, is a pity that you people are very uncivilized and that is why the sense of judgment is very poor. Please can you tell me which other states in Nigeria has received one tenth of what you receive or what FG has done for you people, yet you people are still agitating for stupid right. You know your problem but leave it to pursue shadows. In employment, companies in River State gives you people preferential treat, not as if some of you are well qualified, yet you won’t allow peace to reign. What have your Governors that are from your place done for you yet he receives money to develop the state, you all know your state politicians squander your money and has refused to fight them instead you fight the wrong people.

I bet you, if only you can get hold of your governor and the state politicians to do their work, Rivers State will be better than NY. Look at Peter Odili, what did he do? He shared money here and there and yet you militants can not lay hold of him. Most roads are in bad shape in PH is because the contract are awarded to the indigenes who pockets the money yet you all knows the truth and refuse to fight for the truth. They give you people scholarships here and there even to study abroad, yet you can not leave up to the responsibilities, why abroad on school you people still for militants, go to your secondary schools and see how cult is dominating there at that stage. Over grown adults are still in secondary school.  WHAT IS YOUR PROBLEM? Why not look within and solve it amongst yourself with your leaders, why should you allow the unfaithful leaders go scot-free, only to fight and kidnap people here and there.

Why would your chiefs sponsor youths into evil acts?  Can some one clearly define your problems and reasons for agitating and militancy and kidnapping 70 out of 100 youths out there are illiterates and militants yet there are opportunity for them, Is only in Rivers State that below average students that are indigenes are giving admission into higher Institution, they pay them huge amount of bursary yet they will drop out of school to practice militancy and you think you are a hero Other tribes and states are trying despite that they don’t have opportunity as you people. SO WHATS YOUR PROBLEM Is quite a pity that you people don’t have case just go and trash it out with your leaders. You people should have a rethink for God’s sake. STOP KIDNAPPIN, STOP MILITANCY, STOP! STOP!! STOP!!![/quote][quote author=chummy_bro link=topic=144035.msg2396334#msg2396334 date=1213957543]Please what is wrong When will this crisis stop, NIGER DELTA what is it? Please people of Niger Delta what exactly is you problem Especially Rivers State, You people of Niger Delta are fighting for what, that FG should do this and that for you, is a pity that you people are very uncivilized and that is why the sense of judgment is very poor. Please can you tell me which other states in Nigeria has received one tenth of what you receive or what FG has done for you people, yet you people are still agitating for stupid right. You know your problem but leave it to pursue shadows. In employment, companies in River State gives you people preferential treat, not as if some of you are well qualified, yet you won’t allow peace to reign. What have your Governors that are from your place done for you yet he receives money to develop the state, you all know your state politicians squander your money and has refused to fight them instead you fight the wrong people.

I bet you, if only you can get hold of your governor and the state politicians to do their work, Rivers State will be better than NY. Look at Peter Odili, what did he do? He shared money here and there and yet you militants can not lay hold of him. Most roads are in bad shape in PH is because the contract are awarded to the indigenes who pockets the money yet you all knows the truth and refuse to fight for the truth. They give you people scholarships here and there even to study abroad, yet you can not leave up to the responsibilities, why abroad on school you people still for militants, go to your secondary schools and see how cult is dominating there at that stage. Over grown adults are still in secondary school.  WHAT IS YOUR PROBLEM? Why not look within and solve it amongst yourself with your leaders, why should you allow the unfaithful leaders go scot-free, only to fight and kidnap people here and there.

Why would your chiefs sponsor youths into evil acts?  Can some one clearly define your problems and reasons for agitating and militancy and kidnapping 70 out of 100 youths out there are illiterates and militants yet there are opportunity for them, Is only in Rivers State that below average students that are indigenes are giving admission into higher Institution, they pay them huge amount of bursary yet they will drop out of school to practice militancy and you think you are a hero Other tribes and states are trying despite that they don’t have opportunity as you people. SO WHATS YOUR PROBLEM Is quite a pity that you people don’t have case just go and trash it out with your leaders. You people should have a rethink for God’s sake. STOP KIDNAPPIN, STOP MILITANCY, STOP! STOP!! STOP!!![/quote]some things are beyond your pay grade this is one of them. nigeria not just the govts. in this region have cheated this people beyond believe.  nothing justifies the non challant attitude we have had tpwards them.  we collective bred this monster

KunleOshob:
@anonimi
Grand jedi already knows the law that was being refered to he just chooses to interprete it another way.

yes especially when we allow foot our kingdom bills

Ogaga4Luv:
"Jesus Lied About Prayer. . .?" find out now!

Jesus is quoted many times in the Bible saying that a believer can ask for anything through prayer and receive it. He even goes so far as to say that mountains and trees can be thrown into the sea simply by praying for it. This is clearly a lie, and can be proven to be a lie by any believer. Simply pray for me to be converted to Christianity right away. Or better yet ask God to move the mountains behind my house. He could make a lot of converts that way. If I’m converted today, I’ll post a public apology on my threads and devote my life to kissing God’s ass. If I’m not converted it would only be fair for you to apologize and devote your life to kissing my butt.



Here are the quotes from Jesus that proves that he lied:



1) And Jesus answered and said to them, "Truly I say to you, if you have faith and do not doubt, you will not only do what was done to the fig tree, but even if you say to this mountain, `Be taken up and cast into the sea,' it will happen. "And all things you ask in prayer, believing, you will receive." (Matthew 21:21-22 NAS)



2) Ask and it will be given to you; seek and you will find; knock and the door will be opened to you. For everyone who asks, receives; and the one who seeks, finds; and to the one who knocks, the door will be opened. (Matthew 7:7-8 NAB)



3) Again I say to you, that if two of you agree on earth about anything that they may ask, it shall be done for them by My Father who is in heaven. For where two or three have gathered together in My name, I am there in their midst. (Matthew 18:19-20 NAS)



4) Amen, I say to you, whoever says to this mountain, 'Be lifted up and thrown into the sea,' and does not doubt in his heart but believes that what he says will happen, it shall be done for him. Therefore I tell you, all that you ask for in prayer, believe that you will receive it and it shall be yours. (Mark 11:24-25 NAB)



5) And I tell you, ask and you will receive; seek and you will find; knock and the door will be opened to you. For everyone who asks, receives; and the one who seeks, finds; and to the one who knocks, the door will be opened. (Luke 11:9-13 NAB)



6) And whatever you ask in my name, I will do, so that the Father may be glorified in the Son. If you ask anything of me in my name, I will do it. (John 14:13-14 NAB)



7) If you remain in me and my words remain in you, ask for whatever you want and it will be done for you. (John 15:7 NAB)



It was not you who chose me, but I who chose you and appointed you to go and bear fruit that will remain, so that whatever you ask the Father in my name he may give you. (John 15:16 NAB)



9) On that day you will not question me about anything. Amen, amen, I say to you, whatever you ask the Father in my name he will give you. Until now you have not asked anything in my name; ask and you will receive, so that your joy may be complete. (John 16:23-24 NAB)



A lot of Christians ignore what Jesus actually says in the Bible. They also tend to add things to the actual words to make them say something else. If you honestly and truthfully read these quotes, without adding to them, it is very easy to see that Jesus is not saying that God will think about your prayers. He says God will grant all your prayers. Clearly, God doesn’t grant all prayers and this proves that Jesus was a habitual liar.

in addition the brilliant ones already know the Bible is "Twisted written"-and has played a great roll in the life of many less privillage.,anyway stop secrets must definately be exposed to the interest only.

rubbish. does mustafa ( npbhu) lie too?

sleek29:
The Qur'an refers to people, places, things, and events which are nowhere explained or defined within the Qur'an itself.
True___ False___
These things were not explained because it was assumed that the people hearing the Qur'an already knew them.
True___ False___
Some passages in the Qur'an would be unintelligible without recourse to pre-Islamic history.
True___ False___
All Islamic scholars use pre-Islamic history to explain parts of the Qur'an
True___ False___
Thus it is both legitimate and proper to use pre-Islamic history to explain the Qur'an
True___ False___
Yusuf Ali does this when it comes to such things as the She-Camel, the Elephant Army, the Twelve Springs, the Youths in the Cave, the Blind Man, and many other things found in the Qur'an
True___ False___
Mecca was a pre-Islamic pagan center of worship
True___ False___
The Kabah in Mecca was a pagan temple filled with 360 idols.
True___False___
Archeologists have found three other ancient Kabahs in Arabia.
True___ False___
The pagans prayed by bowing down toward Mecca several times a day
True___ False___
They made a pilgrimage to Mecca.
True___ False___
When they got to Mecca, they ran between two hills.
True___ False___
They ran around the Kabah seven times.
True___ False___
They kissed and caressed a large black stone on the wall of the Kabah.
True___ False___
They sacrificed an animal.
True___ False___
They threw a magical number of stones at a pillar of the devil.
True___ False___
They held their public meetings on Friday instead of Saturday or Sunday.
True___ False___
They fasted during the day and feasted at night for one month.
True___ False___
The pagan fast began and ended with the moon in its crescent phase.
True___ False___
They performed ritual washings before prayers.
True___ False___
As one of their washings before prayer, they snorted water up and then out of their nose.
True___ False___
They cut off the hands of thieves.
True___ False___
They forbade marrying sisters.
True___ False___
They forbid the eating of swine flesh.
True___ False___
In pre-Islamic Arabian genealogies, Ishmael is nowhere mentioned as the father of the Arabs.
True___ False___
Abraham, the father of Ishmael, was not an Arab.
True___ False___
Hagar, the mother of Ishmael, was an Egyptian and thus not an Arab.
True___ False___
Since his mother and his father were not Arabs, Ishmael was not an Arab.
True___ False___
Ishmael could not be the "Father" of the Arabs because they already existed before he was born
True___ False___
According to the historical and literary evidence, Abraham and Ishmael lived in Palestine.
True___ False___
They never lived in Mecca.
True___ False___
They never built the Kabah.
True___ False___
They never established the rituals connected with the Kabah such as the pilgrimage.
True___ False___
According to Arab history, the Kabah at Mecca was built by Kosia, the pagan great-grandfather of Muhammad.
True___ False___
The word "Al-Ilah" was used by pagan Arabs in reference to one of the gods worshipped at the Kabah.
True___ False___
The word "Al_Ilah" was shortened into "Allah."
True___ False___
The moon-god was called "Al-Ilah" and then "Allah" by some Arab pagans in Southern Arabia.
True___ False___
Al-Lat, Al-Uzza and Manat were worshipped by the pagan Arabs as "The Daughters of Allah."
True___ False___
Muhammad's father lived and died as a pagan and yet the word "Allah" was part of his name.
True___ False___
Yusuf Ali points out in his translation of the Qur'an that the moon was worshipped as a god by pagan Arabs.
True___ False___
Many of the pagan rituals associated with the worship of Allah and his daughters were incorporated into the Qur'an and are now part of Islam.
True___ False___
The religion of Islam has adopted the name, the rituals, and the crescent moon symbol of the pagan Arab moon-god.
True___ False___
Some of the material found in the Qur'an can be traced back to pre-Islamic pagan Arabian religions.
True___ False___
Infidels are recorded in the Qur'an as saying that Muhammad took old wive's tales and myths and put them into the Qur'an.
True___ False___
The Qur'an warns against asking questions about Islam because if the answers are revealed, you will lose your faith.
True___ False___

most mole use violence to mask thier confussion

MRbrownJAY:
@poster
do you seriously think that if she had another guy she would tell you?
and why do you think that if two people are dating then they should automatically be in love?
i guess you may be too young to understand that some women date some guy, just "because".
others because there isnt anyone better around to pay these bills and some even date guys because they couldnt be honest and were too shy to tell the guy no.
with that guitar of yours, you must think you are a Don Juan and that everyone should love you.
you better sing another tune!!!!

chei u sabi yabis o.

dis your name na rumour abi? leave the girl alone. must u sleep with every girl u say hello to? you no go read your boook now later you go say na mama sikira witchcraft make you no pass exam

noetic2:
messengers and prophets of who? the idolic allah, or who?

ibin abuzola and his likes are not worth reading

@ chummy_bro

We need to know that sex before marriage in any religion whatsoever is wrong!!!, so why do we engage in it. Bible says that it is a sin against your own self, most people has made that mistake and are still making, it doesn’t make it right, it is very wrong. Well I can not say that Virgins make the best home or marriage. Virginity and character are not the same but are related it some ways. May I address this to Ladies, when you are in a relationship that you have involved your self in sex, when it breaks up, you feel more pain than if you never did it. Most men are only interested in having sex with you and that’s all. Though not all relationship should end up in marriage, but for the sake of pride and honour, why will you have sex with a man that is and will not be your husband? Is simply not right.

Please ladies, if you know how best to keep yourself from sex before marriage, I encourage you to do so, is a beautiful thing to do. You will not need to compare your husband with those guys you have slept with and hence will be satisfied with his performance. How do you feel after having a sex relationship and it broke up, and you go into another one and out again, don’t you think you are losing your pride? For you to achieve this, you have to hate sin and as such hate sex before marriage.

For guys, how can you think that a virgin can not perform well, these entire disvirgin expatriate in sex, didn’t they start sex one day and probably have been groomed by different men and there you are going into her, what makes her a better person? Is what you teach your wife that she will know, and if you want her so good at it, you groom her as you like it. I believe that for her to keep herself only for you that mean she will succumb to your pattern. So please, let us have a rethink and re trace out path. Thanks.

so good to know there are people like you in the midst of the mostly morally bankrupt people we have become

seyenko:
I am a banker, and i am fully aware of customers complaint - picture this, is it very difficult to run a business successfully in Nigeria. For instance to run an ATM we need to put an inverter, a stabilizer, a surge protector etc. You pay your service provider to maintain the equipments, you pay a service provider that provides a telecommunication link to head office. Most times you need 2 service providers because the link could go down so u need to switch to the next. Basically, banks are just being innovative in their charges, however this charges will disappear if and only if Nigeria can generate enough clean electricity, the competition will force charges down because the over head cost of running an ATM or a branch will fall. Currently i spend a minimum of N5M on diesel on the smallest branch per month and we have 255 branches. Please do the maths, so we are not charging because we want to charge but we charge to stay afloat. Besides my bank is one of the top 4 banks in the industry  read yesterdays African Report or Punch. Thank you

nigerians  generally have something for nothing mindset so ignore the complaints.  

ReachRich:
Am really being educated as i read the various post from different members of this forum. Right now i bank with Diamond bank and i can say that they are good. they dont charge u for paying or withdrawing money from outside ur branch.
The worst of the Banks is UBA.Although my brother works there,it wont make me to paint them white when they are red.I was formerly banking with them but i had to withdraw all my money from them when my friend connived with one of their staffs to check my account balance. My friend then came to me to borrow him money which i  refused telling him that i have no money.The guy then showed me the exact amount i had in my acct.My friend left angrily for lying to him.I later got to know that it was a UBA staff that gave him my acct balance.So guys i think we need to make our voices to be heard by some these THIEVES posing as our GUARDIAN ANGELS.

i am generally a defender of all things UBA i cant defend this. i used to get calls from some staff from being driven out by landlords and not able to pay school fees name it. i dont know why they attract people like this. i think it is all part of being nigerians. it is very sad.

GTB is a good bank too.

[size=20pt]The Edo Alphabet: A Look At The Benin Letters And Sounds[/size]
By RICHMOND .E. IDAEHO

It is specifically important at this point to direct attention at the alphabetical system of the Edo people, considering the present circumstances of the Edo language, which is almost fading away as a result of the influence of other cultures within and outside the Nation state, Nigeria, in which the Edo ethnic group occupy the present Edo state’ and by extension, parts of Ondo, Delta, and Anambra states.


Language, it should be noted, is part of a people’s culture. It is the one most important means of expressing a people’s culture, values, and beliefs. It is used for communication, interaction and exchange of ideas. Consequently, the extent to which a people’s language is developed and influenced necessarily reflects upon the culture of the people, and a change or loss of language invariably affects the perception of the people; viz their culture and socio-cultural realities. thus, language is a means of experiencing, and perceiving the environment and at same time, of communicating same to others.


In view of the foregoing, the Edo language is therefore the medium of interaction within the cultural frame of the Edo people. The unit constituents of language are the alphabets, and to properly understand the nature of the Edo language, it is important to have recourse to the alphabets and sounds which make up the language.


In this piece, the focus will be the Edo - Benin/Bini tribe of the Edoic race or ethnic group. The objective of this paper is to present the Edo alphabet and sounds in relation to the Edo language as core to the people’s socio cultural’ development and survival, and to expose certain misapplication of. the language and/or introduction’ of foreign letters and sounds into the Edo alphabet. Here the words Edo, Benin and Bini shall be used interchangeably.


There are 24 alphabets in the Edo language with 7 (vowels and 17 consonants. Interestingly, there are also 7 pairs of consonants (that is the pair or double consonants) which though are not part of the 24 consonant letters. They occupy a special category in the Edo alphabetical system and are pronounced differently from the single consonants.


The Benin letters include the following:


a/aa/; b/bi/; d/di/; e/a; e/e/; f/fi/; g/gi/; i/i/;; h/hi/; k/k a I; 1/1 a I; m/mi/; n/nil; o/;Q/or/ p/pi/; r/ril; s/si/; tltil; u/uu/; v/vi/; w/wi/; y/yi/; z/zi/. The vowels include a; e;e;i o/o;and u, while the consonants are b· d· f· g. h· k· I· m· n· p: r· s· t· v· w· y. and z


The double consonants, which are combinations of two consonant letters and sounds, include the following: gb, as in Ugbowo; gh, as in ughe; kh as in Ekhosuehi; kp as in Akpakpava; rh, as in Erhun; mw as in Omwan; and vb as in Ovbokhan. These’ double consonants are pronounced together and not separately or arbitrarily choosing and pronouncing one of them as most people, of other ethnic groups, do.


There are also corresponding double consonants in other Edoic groups or tribes. For example bh, as in Ibhadomen; kp as in Okpebho; gh as in Ighalo in Esan. In Etsako, there is vh as in Ivhador etc. The bh in Esan and vh . in Etsako, are closely pronounced like the vb in Benin.


Also to be noted is wh as in Emoborowho; kp as in Akpo; gh as in oghene; rh as Omoriobokirhie; in Urhobo and ts as in Oritsejafo in Itsekiri etc.·


It is clear from the above that there is no j/ji/ in the Benin alphabet nor is there the shl C / or kr/kri/ double consonants or sounds. It is therefore surprising how certain ,words purportedly claimed to be Bini words are then pronounced or even spelt with “j” and “sh”, “kr”, etc. This is. rather a misnomer and a far shift from the Bini language, hence the people’s socio-cultural reality.


A people’s alphabetical system constitutes the basis of their word formation (morphology) and the sound dictates their pronunciation (phonetics). The language of· the people therefore is predicated upon the variety of letters and symbols available in that particular culture for the construction of its language as language is “a systematic means of communicating by the use of sounds or conventional symbols”.


Hence, words cannot be formed in isolation but necessarily from a system of conventional signs, sounds, and gestures. Linguistic formation, in other words, follows the alphabetical systems of such linguistic groups. As such, no symbol or sound not being part of the linguistic system cat”: be used to form words within such linguistic cum cultural frame.


This is because a people’s culture is essentially tied to the language, as what cannot be expressed by the language of a people is considered not to exist - at least there is lack of knowledge of its existence - within the cultural realities of the people, and a people’s expression of their realities and existence through language is limited by the symbols and sounds used for such purpose. Thus, it is through language, that the knowledge, belief, values and behaviour of a people can be experienced, expressed and shared. Consequently, no words could be formed in a particular culture or language where the letters) and/or sound(s) used does not occur in the alphabetical system of that culture.


Accordingly, the use of the “t and “sh” symbol and sound in the formation of certain words within the Bini lingua context is practically inappropriate and intolerable as neither the single letter “j” nor the double consonants “sh” as well as their sounds can be found in the Edo alphabetical system.

Although, sociologically, language is flexible, ‘yet a foreign or new or modified word, symbol or sound cannot be regarded as belonging to the given culture unless’ and until it is forthwith included in the linguistic/alphabetical frame of such people.


There is, therefore, no word as “Jesu” or “ljesu” or any of its inflections as in “Jesurobo”, in the ‘Edo language. Similarly, there are no words like “Oshodin”, “Ologboshere”, “Iyashere”, “Tatashe”, etc whether in their spellings or pronunciation, in the Benin language. These are improper words or names and do not, reasonably and culturally speaking, fit into the Benin linguistics or socio-cultural realities. This is because there is no “j” letter nor the “Stl” in the Bini alphabet. Words which are expressed with such symbols are not B-ini words neither in their spelling, as in “Oshodin” nor in their pronunciation /osodin/.


However, an accurate spelling and pronunciation of these words would exclude the “j” symbol and substitute it with “y” as in “Yesu”, “Iye”, whereas “oshodin”, “tatashe”, will loss the “h” letter and the “sh”1s1 sound to become “Osodin”, “tat’ase”, “Iyase” etc. ‘


The use of the “j” and “sh” letters and sounds is due partly to inadequate knowledge of the Edo, alphabet and partly to the influence of foreign and local cultures.


For example “Jesu” is a corruption of the foreign word Jesus and in an attempt to arrive, at a near accurate translation of the word, the letter “j” was equally used for the localized name, disregarding the fact that the “j” letter does not exist in the Benin alphabet. The common misapplication and mispronunciation of the “y’ letter and sound for “j” also aided this inaccurate and intolerable transliteration. As for example, in some homes you hear some children call their mother “ije” rather than “iye”. ,


The, occurrence of the “j” letter in some Edoic culture like U-le Esan, as well, hastens its use in the Benin language .


The “sh”/ S I and “Ch”/tS I sound can be found in some Nigerian languages like Haus3, Yoruba and Igbo. In unequivocal terms, neither the “j” nor the “sh” feature in the Benin language.


It ‘will be submitted that though, the “j” and “sh” symbols and sounds form part of the linguistics of some Nigerian languages, they are however not included in that of the Benin - the primordial Edoic tribe - and as such cannot ‘be used for constructing or forming words, names or anything whatsoever within the cultural existence and experience of the, people. Until these symbols and sounds are so incorporated into the Benin alphabetical system, they, and whatever words are formed therefrom, remain linguistic misnomers.


http://www.nigerianobservernews.com/30062009/features/indexa.html

javalove:
lmao 

@topic

i dont blame u guys. u guys r just uninformed. . .dats all. many were once in ur shoes util Allah guided them to the right path. all i can do is pray for Allah's mercy on ur souls, else u are all going to hell!!!

like he is guiding osama bin ladin and he guided your cousins into flying planes into twin towers killing innocent souls . i dont like satanic guidance do you?

[size=24pt]The Edo Alphabet: A Look At The Benin Letters And Sounds[/size]
By RICHMOND .E. IDAEHO

It is specifically important at this point to direct attention at the alphabetical system of the Edo people, considering the present circumstances of the Edo language, which is almost fading away as a result of the influence of other cultures within and outside the Nation state, Nigeria, in which the Edo ethnic group occupy the present Edo state’ and by extension, parts of Ondo, Delta, and Anambra states.


Language, it should be noted, is part of a people’s culture. It is the one most important means of expressing a people’s culture, values, and beliefs. It is used for communication, interaction and exchange of ideas. Consequently, the extent to which a people’s language is developed and influenced necessarily reflects upon the culture of the people, and a change or loss of language invariably affects the perception of the people; viz their culture and socio-cultural realities. thus, language is a means of experiencing, and perceiving the environment and at same time, of communicating same to others.


In view of the foregoing, the Edo language is therefore the medium of interaction within the cultural frame of the Edo people. The unit constituents of language are the alphabets, and to properly understand the nature of the Edo language, it is important to have recourse to the alphabets and sounds which make up the language.


In this piece, the focus will be the Edo - Benin/Bini tribe of the Edoic race or ethnic group. The objective of this paper is to present the Edo alphabet and sounds in relation to the Edo language as core to the people’s socio cultural’ development and survival, and to expose certain misapplication of. the language and/or introduction’ of foreign letters and sounds into the Edo alphabet. Here the words Edo, Benin and Bini shall be used interchangeably.


There are 24 alphabets in the Edo language with 7 (vowels and 17 consonants. Interestingly, there are also 7 pairs of consonants (that is the pair or double consonants) which though are not part of the 24 consonant letters. They occupy a special category in the Edo alphabetical system and are pronounced differently from the single consonants.


The Benin letters include the following:


a/aa/; b/bi/; d/di/; e/a; e/e/; f/fi/; g/gi/; i/i/;; h/hi/; k/k a I; 1/1 a I; m/mi/; n/nil; o/;Q/or/ p/pi/; r/ril; s/si/; tltil; u/uu/; v/vi/; w/wi/; y/yi/; z/zi/. The vowels include a; e;e;i o/o;and u, while the consonants are b· d· f· g. h· k· I· m· n· p: r· s· t· v· w· y. and z


The double consonants, which are combinations of two consonant letters and sounds, include the following: gb, as in Ugbowo; gh, as in ughe; kh as in Ekhosuehi; kp as in Akpakpava; rh, as in Erhun; mw as in Omwan; and vb as in Ovbokhan. These’ double consonants are pronounced together and not separately or arbitrarily choosing and pronouncing one of them as most people, of other ethnic groups, do.


There are also corresponding double consonants in other Edoic groups or tribes. For example bh, as in Ibhadomen; kp as in Okpebho; gh as in Ighalo in Esan. In Etsako, there is vh as in Ivhador etc. The bh in Esan and vh . in Etsako, are closely pronounced like the vb in Benin.


Also to be noted is wh as in Emoborowho; kp as in Akpo; gh as in oghene; rh as Omoriobokirhie; in Urhobo and ts as in Oritsejafo in Itsekiri etc.·


It is clear from the above that there is no j/ji/ in the Benin alphabet nor is there the shl C / or kr/kri/ double consonants or sounds. It is therefore surprising how certain ,words purportedly claimed to be Bini words are then pronounced or even spelt with “j” and “sh”, “kr”, etc. This is. rather a misnomer and a far shift from the Bini language, hence the people’s socio-cultural reality.


A people’s alphabetical system constitutes the basis of their word formation (morphology) and the sound dictates their pronunciation (phonetics). The language of· the people therefore is predicated upon the variety of letters and symbols available in that particular culture for the construction of its language as language is “a systematic means of communicating by the use of sounds or conventional symbols”.


Hence, words cannot be formed in isolation but necessarily from a system of conventional signs, sounds, and gestures. Linguistic formation, in other words, follows the alphabetical systems of such linguistic groups. As such, no symbol or sound not being part of the linguistic system cat”: be used to form words within such linguistic cum cultural frame.


This is because a people’s culture is essentially tied to the language, as what cannot be expressed by the language of a people is considered not to exist - at least there is lack of knowledge of its existence - within the cultural realities of the people, and a people’s expression of their realities and existence through language is limited by the symbols and sounds used for such purpose. Thus, it is through language, that the knowledge, belief, values and behaviour of a people can be experienced, expressed and shared. Consequently, no words could be formed in a particular culture or language where the letters) and/or sound(s) used does not occur in the alphabetical system of that culture.


Accordingly, the use of the “t and “sh” symbol and sound in the formation of certain words within the Bini lingua context is practically inappropriate and intolerable as neither the single letter “j” nor the double consonants “sh” as well as their sounds can be found in the Edo alphabetical system.

Although, sociologically, language is flexible, ‘yet a foreign or new or modified word, symbol or sound cannot be regarded as belonging to the given culture unless’ and until it is forthwith included in the linguistic/alphabetical frame of such people.


There is, therefore, no word as “Jesu” or “ljesu” or any of its inflections as in “Jesurobo”, in the ‘Edo language. Similarly, there are no words like “Oshodin”, “Ologboshere”, “Iyashere”, “Tatashe”, etc whether in their spellings or pronunciation, in the Benin language. These are improper words or names and do not, reasonably and culturally speaking, fit into the Benin linguistics or socio-cultural realities. This is because there is no “j” letter nor the “Stl” in the Bini alphabet. Words which are expressed with such symbols are not B-ini words neither in their spelling, as in “Oshodin” nor in their pronunciation /osodin/.


However, an accurate spelling and pronunciation of these words would exclude the “j” symbol and substitute it with “y” as in “Yesu”, “Iye”, whereas “oshodin”, “tatashe”, will loss the “h” letter and the “sh”1s1 sound to become “Osodin”, “tat’ase”, “Iyase” etc. ‘


The use of the “j” and “sh” letters and sounds is due partly to inadequate knowledge of the Edo, alphabet and partly to the influence of foreign and local cultures.


For example “Jesu” is a corruption of the foreign word Jesus and in an attempt to arrive, at a near accurate translation of the word, the letter “j” was equally used for the localized name, disregarding the fact that the “j” letter does not exist in the Benin alphabet. The common misapplication and mispronunciation of the “y’ letter and sound for “j” also aided this inaccurate and intolerable transliteration. As for example, in some homes you hear some children call their mother “ije” rather than “iye”. ,


The, occurrence of the “j” letter in some Edoic culture like U-le Esan, as well, hastens its use in the Benin language .


The “sh”/ S I and “Ch”/tS I sound can be found in some Nigerian languages like Haus3, Yoruba and Igbo. In unequivocal terms, neither the “j” nor the “sh” feature in the Benin language.


It ‘will be submitted that though, the “j” and “sh” symbols and sounds form part of the linguistics of some Nigerian languages, they are however not included in that of the Benin - the primordial Edoic tribe - and as such cannot ‘be used for constructing or forming words, names or anything whatsoever within the cultural existence and experience of the, people. Until these symbols and sounds are so incorporated into the Benin alphabetical system, they, and whatever words are formed therefrom, remain linguistic misnomers.


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