Foreign Affairs › Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by jl115: 9:37am On Oct 28, 2022 |
kabe1: 12 x units of JF-17 Block 3.
That's what I think Nigeria needs. However I don't see that happening anytime soon. agree |
Foreign Affairs › Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by jl115: 8:51am On Oct 28, 2022 |
Faithful007: Israel has solid F16s on sale. I don't know why I don't fancy that JF17 aircraft. It looks too old to be a new aircraft for me.
Instead of buying more units, I will make orders for Chinese J-31.
The F-7s are an unnecessary weight. They should be sold off now they are fresh from overhaul. you can't order something that technically doesn't exist yet, also I doubt they would offer it for export anytime soon Kabe1 is correct, Nigerias best option would be additional jf17s |
Foreign Affairs › Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by jl115: 7:19am On Oct 28, 2022 |
Odunayaw: Yes that's what I was telling you! All LPDs have well decks!
You were the one saying they don't and making it as a difference between a LHD & LPD we debating semantics at this point.... But I think we both can agree that an Amphibious warship with the capacity to Carry helicopters(be it an LDP or LHD) would greatly benefit Nigeria |
Foreign Affairs › Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by jl115: 10:16pm On Oct 27, 2022 |
Lurker4Long: Meanwhile, in Mozambique. why is everybody wearing our plat armour vests? |
Foreign Affairs › Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by jl115: 10:12pm On Oct 27, 2022 |
Odunayaw: The D- Dock in LPD should tell you something about them having well decks man
LHD prime focus is moving & support for air assets, and that's not something any LPD can do conveniently and consistently
One is called an amphibious assault ship and the other an amphibious transport ship for a reason.
Personally I wanted the Makassar LPD but the LSTs will have to suffice.
Their job is just to deliver cargo and whatever air assets that is embarked on it can at best serve in logistics role.
History has shown that NAFs activities in expeditionary role is logistics, ISR and Air Interdiction. That's why he mentioned Jets & UAVs both LPDs and LHDs transport and land landing forces and both have decks capable of accommodating helicopters.... Yes LHDs have larger decks(and generally are larger) and thus accommodate more helicopters but essentially they do the same thing. FYI there are LPDs with well decks as well Also yes I agree an LPD could be better for Nigeria budget wise vs an LHD |
Foreign Affairs › Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by jl115: 1:34pm On Oct 27, 2022 |
Odunayaw:
Oh really now yes, they do the same thing... LPDs just don't have well docks like an LHD... But then again LPDs theoretically are cheaper so either way you ain't wrong  |
Foreign Affairs › Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by jl115: 7:40am On Oct 27, 2022 |
kabe1: Helicopters and Jets were based in Senegal during the Gambia deployment.
Helicopters and Jets were based in Niger during the Mali deployment.
Helicopters like we've seen in Ukraine and Yemen are easily shot down, infact if the helicopter doesn't redeem it's image soon, it would go extinct from the attack role in 3 decades time.
Jets and UCAVs are proving to be better than the Attack Helicopter for CAS.
Point of correction, Nigeria is an African Superpower.
......and NO!! LHD would provide no advantage to Nigeria that the LST is not currently providing. - exactly my point - exactly my point.... Helicopters must already be based close to the theatre and many times within foreign countries... They can not be scrambled 1000s of kilometers away. - Helicopters are essential military tools that will not go extinct any time soon.... Both Ukraine and Russia have terrible military doctrine in general that have been exposed several times including by South Africa in the border war. - UAVs have shorter ranges, less payload, less loiter time, weaker sensors, slower ext ext they play a pivotal role on the battle field yes but they are 100% not a replacement for AH.... In fact it comes down to doctrine again, South Africa have never used AH in the CAS role, theyve always been used as a strike platform, anti tank, escort and recce platform......using an AH for CAS means you are putting it at risk of being shot down... Fixed wing aircraft will always be better for cas than AHs. - we are talking about real geopolitical terms not made up one's like "African superpower" - Its an LST that can carry helicopters... Its obviously an advantage |
Foreign Affairs › Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by jl115: 7:21am On Oct 27, 2022 |
Odunayaw: Fixed.
LHDs are on overkill for regional deployment in my opinion. LPDs on the other hand is perfect they are basically the same thing bru |
Foreign Affairs › Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by jl115: 2:21pm On Oct 26, 2022 |
kabe1: What is air support? The ability to use Commercially available drones in combat zone is air support, besides we had no problems deploying fighter jets, helicopters and transport aircrafts to Gambia, but we could not deploy armour on time. I'm specifically talking about medium lift and AHs which are essential for supporting troops....how do you expect to scramble helis from 3000kms away?.... You can't, go ask the SANDF generals back in 2013....yes jets you can but you can't medi vac, or provide close air support with jets to the same degree as an AH LHDs are perfect for regional powers like SA and Nigeria and the roles they are trying to play wrt peacekeeping and other military missions on the continent. |
Foreign Affairs › Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by jl115: 10:54am On Oct 26, 2022 |
kabe1: Nigeria has no requirement for an LHD. Buying such a ship would be an infinitely waste of resources.
What Nigeria needs is another LST, same size and displacement as NNS Kada.
If we look at our deployment to Gambia, Nigeria could not move armour to Gambia during the early stages of the intervention.
However because of during this year's deployment to Guinea Bissau men, armour and light skin vehicles were all moved at once.
While an LHD provides same sealift and more, Nigeria does not have any expeditionary ambitions, nor the budget to support and sustain the operations of an LHD.
What Nigeria needs at the moment is to quickly get in the second LST to support NNS Kada, also investments in Medium Utility Helicopter like the MI-17.
The recent flooding has exposed Nigeria's lack of adequate air mobility in peace time.
We have used frontline MI-35M Attack Helicopters and EC-135 helicopters for roles that the MI-17s should carry out. no expeditionary ambitions yet you want another LST?? A bit contradictory don't you think... Also sending armour without air support ain't great bru.. |
Foreign Affairs › Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by jl115: 10:12am On Oct 26, 2022 |
Lurker4Long: Looking at a map, I struggle to see where Nigeria would need an LHD to deploy air support. The whole Gulf of Guinea AO is a flight away. The 2 LSTs make infinitely more sense. how many helicopters can be carried in a single c130? |
Foreign Affairs › Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by jl115: 9:58am On Oct 26, 2022 |
kabe1: Really?
Kindly explain further. It's literally your LST but with the added advantage of having additional helicopters(transport and AH) to support landing troops.....not only will it benefit Nigeria in terms of conventional force projection but with peacekeeping operations as well(ECOMOG comes to mind) ...Lessons from our operation in CAR should come to mind wrt air support. |
Foreign Affairs › Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by jl115: 7:59am On Oct 26, 2022 |
kabe1: This is ridiculous, the United States is a global superpower with bases all across the world, hence the requirement for super carriers and LHDs.
The US also spends over 800 billion USD on defence, that's nearly 2 times of Nigeria's entire GDP.
A Nation that it's security seriously spends in areas that are most needed, not in LHDs. the fact that you don't see the benefit of an LHD(especially for Nigeria) is actually scary |
Politics › Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by jl115: 1:03pm On Oct 18, 2022 |
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Politics › Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by jl115: 8:40am On Oct 18, 2022 |
Shma2022: I said my figures were guesswork. Cos I was dealing with a twer-p in other words you made them up? |
Politics › Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by jl115: 7:54am On Oct 18, 2022 |
Shma2022: Forget it. Those figures are total bs. I was counter measuring with the bs I was receiving from your egocentric bitter man. So figures from the World Bank, IMF ect ect are Bullshit? |
Politics › Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by jl115: 6:54am On Oct 18, 2022 |
Shma2022: Noo... [b]South Africa's population is hitting 90m[/b]illion soon. You black moff0s are breeding children to replace the aging community working for Boers. going full ret@rd I see.... My bru our population growth is slowing  |
Politics › Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by jl115: 6:53am On Oct 18, 2022 |
gallivant: We choose not to post South African slums. yes because our townships have better infrastructure than most of your middle to upper class towns |
Politics › Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by jl115: 6:51am On Oct 18, 2022 |
Shma2022: 70% translates to 54million people. Out of it, 60% are blacks. From the 60%, which is more or less 33million. So, from a black perspective, you are the biggest slum dwellers on the continent. If it were not for minerals, your zoo would be a Mozambique-like. your math is shocking as usual... The black population in SA is 47mil.... The number of people living in slums is 25% vs 47% for Kenya... I'm sure you can do the math from here can't you? |
Politics › Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by jl115: 1:16pm On Oct 16, 2022 |
Shma2022: That means you're the third larget economy, and not 2nd, right?  yes I believe it would.... What's your point? |
Politics › Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by jl115: 12:29pm On Oct 15, 2022 |
Shma2022: @jl115, I thought your GDP is $440B going upwards. What happened? I qoute straight from the IMF or WB bru  but 413 billion seems about right.... Isn't that what I posted? |
Foreign Affairs › Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by jl115: 10:38pm On Oct 11, 2022 |
Odunayaw: General elections are almost here. It doesn't take time before posts like that attracts the devils on Nairaland I thought you guys were talking about his post wrt Nigerian Airforce procurement? |
Foreign Affairs › Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by jl115: 10:08pm On Oct 11, 2022 |
Odunayaw: This is the wrong thread to post this Covert1
Let's take it to Bidexiii's thread and have a good discussion there I don't see anything wrong with Covert1s post.... He was just qouting articles like we all do |
Foreign Affairs › Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by jl115: 10:04pm On Oct 11, 2022 |
GreenandGold: Honestly, this is what a man should wear everyday to work 
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Politics › Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by jl115: 12:29pm On Oct 06, 2022 |
dreamxhaser: I don't know if it's just me but don't you all think Dar es salaam beats all Kenyan cities.
Beef apart, let's be honest no we don't, it's just you |
Foreign Affairs › Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by jl115: 1:29pm On Oct 05, 2022 |
QuietMynd: Which type of boot/shoe is this. Someone should enlighten me. we call them vellies short for veldskoen(Bush shoes) .... I got several pairs, great for literally everything, from hunting and hiking to work and church shoes  |
Foreign Affairs › Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by jl115: 11:40am On Sep 28, 2022 |
ItooWorWor: You are actually describing you bro, and you know that. cool story bro  |
Foreign Affairs › Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by jl115: 11:39am On Sep 28, 2022 |
ItooWorWor: which of the base did Boko haram raid  I would absolutely love to get into it but my bros asked nicely to let you muppets be  |
Foreign Affairs › Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by jl115: 10:52am On Sep 28, 2022 |
Fourpockets: Why are you so hostile towards my comments  I meant it's only one or two that they operate in, am I wrong for saying that? don't mind them my bru  they have very low self-esteem....in fact locally they are called the self-esteem brigade  |
Foreign Affairs › Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by jl115: 11:49pm On Sep 27, 2022 |
GreenandGold: Don't give him an audience... He's having his monthly period. OK done  |
Foreign Affairs › Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by jl115: 11:49pm On Sep 27, 2022 |
kabe1: Boko Haram controls no part of Nigeria you clown, what is obvious, and has been widely reported is The KDF's determination to clean up the incompetence of the SANDF in the Eastern DRC. ...my bru Boko Haram are raiding your bases left right and center...also MONUSCO is un led... So even if your argument was even remotely true its 100% irrelevant |
Foreign Affairs › Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by jl115: 11:46pm On Sep 27, 2022 |
Odunayaw: What are you blabbing about now? naaahhh never mind bru... Thought this comment was directed at me  ignore  |