₦airaland Forum

mikeoh:
Why is pastor chris church(christ embassy) always docorated with pyramids or triangle form of design. As we all know pyramid is a great symbol of most world ocultic organisations that origenated from Egypt.most world big companies now use the symbol of pyramids as their logo and its appear that the church is connected with such,if u doubt just watch most of his church tv programs every morning from 6am to 6:30am in the morning u will see that the docorations at the back of the pastors that are preaching are in a triangular or pyramid form,somtims if not the speaker it could be the design or the drawing on the wall at the back of the pastor

There is a difference between triangle and pyramid dude. Geometrical figures are common in decorations. Is your nose not triangular? . A pyramid is triangular in shape ,but a triagle is not pyramid.

If you now Interprete every triangle to represent pyramid, Then that's very manipulative and bias . It's not right . You are insinuating unclean thoughts . We are surrounded we geometry in every design. From architecture to automobile.

sometims u see moon,sun and star and in the middle of these u see the pyramids. Wht does all this symbolise? Beware people

I think we should rather beware of you. For creating a story of lie out of pure designs. There were geometrical designs in the bible . Is God occultic. God use start ,square,circle etc

Church supose to preach holiness and repentance not telling u how to take charge of the world,

Will you rebuke God also?

Genesis 1:28
28 And God blessed them, and God said unto them, Be fruitful, and multiply, and replenish the earth, and subdue it: and have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over every living thing that moveth upon the earth.

PLS THROW MORE LIGHT

Okija_juju:
Not even the Nigerian Police has the right to enter your vehicle, let alone drive it.

Thats criminal trespass and is an offence under the law.

pls I'm interested in this part. May we know under what law? Is it in the criminal code or something? Can we have a reference? Thanks

According to bible

Mankind is about 6,000 years

Maybe we address the Antichrist as antix from henceforth

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If we don't need the ministry of prophets , why did God put them in the body?

1 Thessalonians 5:20
. .  Despise not prophesyings.

@NLmediator

Actually, his knowledge of the law seems pretty good. Of course, nobody can be 100% sure of the outcome, but the girl is likely to lose if she sues. If you submit yourself to certain situations, you take what normally goes with it. Volenti non fit injuria. Or Assumption of Risk. And the references to the Constitution, such as right to dignity, are off-point. The rights in the Constitution protect us from abuse by the government and its agents, not from fellow citizens.

Maybe that's why the family of Ananias and sapphira couldn't sue Peter for the death of their parents.

divineson: nlers i love this topic, we have to let ourselves know all about demons as believers in christ,to my own understanding in bible a persopn is demon possessed when such person have one or more of the following,
1. a socerer, the liitle girl dat paul cast demon out of her infact demon possession is a result of covenant with satan,when you work for satan kingdom you have supernatural power, you can go to the bible to find out more, if you go to juju priest to do protection charm or luck charm for your business, you have invited demons to possess you, and only jesus christ can drive demon out of someone, demons influence false pastor to lie and twist God's word so we will not believe in God and make us to hate our loving God and jesus.

Paul was armed with information on how to deal with them. He said we are not ignorant of his devices .

There wasn't much to be known about his childhood and baby hood. Because his ministry hadn't begun yet. His ministry actually begun at age 30 after he had recieved the holyghost . His life and ministry began to be documented.

Very long to read. I browsed through, I will read again when brain cool down? But I'm glad you know God is not against wealth. At the same time he doesn't want us to set heart and trust on material things,

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One of the works of demons is to give certain people impression that they don't exist. Watch those video clips.

I didn't read it well the first time. Firstly The consequence depends primarily on the exact words or curses he might have pronounced on himself.

Secondly the lie he told has it's own consequence Especially . But when a man had repented from such before such consequence takes effect, he is free from it.

There has always been greater knowledge of truths and lesser. God takes people from stage to stage.

1 Corinthians 13:11
11 When I was a child, I spake as a child, I understood as a child, I thought as a child: but when I became a man, I put away childish things.

1 Corinthians 3:2
2 I have fed you with milk, and not with meat: for hitherto ye were not able to bear it, neither yet now are ye able.

Hebrews 5:14
14 But strong meat belongeth to them that are of full age, even those who by reason of use have their senses exercised to discern both good and evil.

Nobody said so? Many people believe Adam eat apple. That's how the phrase Adams apple came from.but the bible didn't say it's an apple.

It's not about the bible . It's about swearing. It's ungodly to swear for any reason.

Matthew 5:34
34 But I say unto you, Swear not at all. . .

I don't know how my post got here . I was posting it on the thread about fuel subsidy . Sorry

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IYA NGBALI:
we dey run comot because dem no dey dance awilo and yahoozee for the church and dem no get swagger

The church is over 30 years in existence , the youths didn't run away, they have become papas and mamas . The question now should be , why are not so many youths coming in, and that's if there's any situation like that

What has it got to do with Jesus and Paul

Some of us don't even know about tb Joshua watch. It's only from you we are hearing about them.

It must have been a year or 2 years ago

Are people selling dove or doing money changing in church today?

plaetton:
So why is that only poor women and children get singled out and victimised  for demonic possesion and deliverance?
according to you then ,every bad person is demonic possessed and every bad deed is of demonic origin, right? which palnet do you live and who do u say created this demon possessed planet of yours?

Using the word VICTIMISE is very wrong. The person doing the victimisation is the demon himself. The minister only help the captive to be free.

It's not only the poor that had demons. If you watch Emmanuel tv and some other stations you will see demons being cast out of the rich as well as the poor. Even some ministers if care is not taken may have demons if they allow it.

This lady flew all the way from western country. Does she look poor? Yet she has a demon.

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The persons being ministered to here don't appear poor either

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She doesn't always attend the birthday organised in Nigeria. What's the big deal. Pastor CHRIS has more than one birhday celebration. That one was only one of them . They have their way of doing their thing. They have their own celebration .she respects and revers her husband a lot. People have been carrying this rumour for close to 10 years now.

Zikkyy:
. . and what's this all about? more false accusations? Is this not enough proof that you are a liar?

What are you saying ? You've forgotten so easily.  The way  I.D earswide is pursuing me about now ,was the way you were pursuing me about taunting me that I'm a liar an not an artist. Almost every thread you followed me about.

the poll is currently ongoing, i don't think it's the right time to campaign. The above appears to be an attempt to give your opponent a bad name (so you can win more votes), even if that was never the aim

When others campaign against me, you don't see anything wrong, when I respond that's when it is wrong. I've said I wasn't interested in the poll . Is there an award? I even suggested i would have loved to contribute to have a price for winner. I voted for frosbel.

I will love to appeal to moderators pls  delete my name from this poll . I voted for frosbel, you can add my vote to his .I want to be withdrawn .
Thanks

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gaddafe:
You have this information and you had been busy saying blah blah blah. This is what you should have sent before. I've actually read some, and i'ii read the rest before coming back to comment. The writer actually seems to know what he is writing.

Well I didint want to because, it doesn't support my position about fallen angels, I thinks it supports your own idea more.But here is the link

http://www.kjvbible.org/satan.html

We must learn to separate a man from his mistakes as Christians. He claim the slap was spiritual and others believe it was abuse . Lets leave the man for God. If he has committed a crime let the law handle it. The responses I've seen on the matter are soo extreme . Even though I may not support the slappingbutane thing is clear ,there's a God in heaven who judges his ministers, we are not the judge.

Romans 14:4
4 Who are you to pass judgment on the servant of another? It is before his own master that he stands or falls. And he will be upheld, for the Lord is able to make him stand.

Pastor Kun:
Good analysis but you failed to take into consideration Joagbaje's CEC rigging machinery which he deployed to win last year via the use of multiple I.Ds by himself and his CEC cohorts.

Stop complaining old man -.You created me.  And If I have multiple  I.Ds like you,or  if ive broken any rule .it's between me ,moderators and admin. let them judge and expose it. You are notorious  for multiple ids. And and you try stirring sentiments against me.

Why will i be rigging for vote?.I nominated frosbel and voted for him. I have said if theres anything will rsther want ,its to be a moderator.  Not poster of the year.

MyJoe:
Easily the most persecuted person in the Nairaland religious section, Joagbaje is not your everyday Nairalander. Some love him. Others despise him. And those who despise him sure know how to go about their business of despising. Joagbaje is a man of conviction.

Thank God sombody is speaking .But I want to thank Kunle and enigma  for creating me. I came on Nairaland to make post as any other poster. When he (kunle)used to run rampage on the site. I never identify with CEC .i never mentioned my church. I didn't even defend CEC or pastor CHRIS . I didn't even enter CEC threads .I only enjoy answering people's question. But after demolishing their lies on 2major threads . They started searching about me on internet. I don't have anything to hide. And those who know me here's knows Im a very simple person. But of course every one would appreciate privacy as a right we are entitled to . And that's what made me comfortable with this site because it has rules. And of of the rules is :
NEVER EXPOSE OR INVADE PRIVACY OF ANOTHER POSTER.
NEVER REVEAL THE IDENTITY OF A POSTER etc. and the sentence is banning! Some of the rules have been modified now.

Kunleoshob  and enigma started out linking me with CEC and publishing articles about me on this site. Which is against Nairaland rules. Yet Enigma is supposed to be a lawyer and a defender of human rights. I was happy that at least these individuals would be banned . I protested but not even a warning was given . I was disappointed . The rules are not bring followed. All these things were done to prove joagbaje is a pastor . Is it a crime to be a pastor ? so that if I defend tithe or anything which they stand against ,they  will come and start postin things like "Dont listen to joagbaje he is a pastor and he is fighting for his daily bread thats is why he is defending tithe. he is defending his daily bread" etc

but  I defend tithe only for one reason ,because i believe in it And im a tither and my life is a testimony of the power of tithing . But even if all theses allegations are true . Its still within my human right.

I never denied being a pastor it's a honourable responsibility . 99 % of CEC pastors have their jobs, as lawyer, bankers,oil workers and business men etc. you must have something to do. One of our pastors has been made an ambassador of Nigeria ,it will be announced  soon . So Having pastoral responsibility doesn't mean you are jobless.  But I made it clear that I'm an artist  I have my own businesses and in into several things I make lots of money and put into the gospel and help others .

I'm in charge of  Society of Nigerian Artist in my state(Sna). I have doctors of art And professors and lecturers under me in SNA .We are even on tv sometimes. I have my own studio and gallery. I have collectors of my works from different part of the globe. They Said Was lying ,kunle sent zikky id after me ooo. " youre liar ,yiure not an artist" etc for several months until I had to post some links that show some newpapers publications of few of my art exhibitions. And I invited all who want to see my world to meet me on Facebook because  I don't have nothing to hide. I have many friends here on Facebook we do business together. but  I was only surprised that Nuclearboy who is one of them came to my Facebook, and started pasting photos of people, and church from my album on nairaland!. Yet moderators did nothing. And these individuals were congratulating one another as "dictectives" in open shame! They must destroy jo. That only makes me know I'm doing something important which Satan is mad at. I can't see the reason for this insane actions by these grown adults.I have right to my privacy. Only deepsights and toba spoke against some of these injustice.

One of them tod me they will do anything to run me out of Nairaland because I don't join them to fight atheist etc so im nit a christian and I spread " poison'

But their attacks have mutated me into the joagbaje of  today. They had said they will keep attacking me so long as I post pastor chris articles or defend pastor CHRIS whom they labell thief (without a single proof ) and  they will do all in they power to get me out of this site. My question is that I was making post on my own. Until you guys linked me with CEC . Now that I have accepted your exposure and I've gone all out to identify with CEC ,why complaining?  You created me.

But why all these wars to stop me. What gives you right to think your doctrine is the right one? And mine is the wrong one. You should rather present your points and Let the viewers decide,We can disagree anytime but why waging personal attacks and illegal criminal actions instead of discussion. This has been my campaign . That's why I wanted to be moderators because some people see these childish things and got disgusted to be participating.

When I say I would love to be a moderator, it's not a quest for power and victimisation of others. It's to enforce rules as in other sites in the world. We have our sites as artist like red bubble
Home site .http://www.redbubble.com/community
My page    .http://www.redbubble.com/people/joeagbaje

We criticise each others works. And some times disagree. But nobody should harass another person or you will be banned. Naiaraland ought to be too mature for some things. Let's think globally and decently. We are free to disagree on points . Personal attacks Is a sign of weakness.

plaetton:
@Joagbaje:
Kindly enlighten us why demons have a prefered desire to only possess poor women and children, uneducated and mostly of African origin.

Demon don't only possess the few you mentioned. They posess people at every level of life. Hitlervmsdness was demonic. Many leaders in Africa who had gone human sacrifices are demonised. There are killer doctors and nurses who are demonic. There are numerous articles to that effect. There are several demonic crimes in the U.S many people are locked up in psychatric hospitals who would have been free if someone had been able to get demons out of them

Thanks ,Demonic activities are been denied in certain circles. Government don't usually give it recognise such. But that's one of the major reason for violence in those nations like the U.S where a young man can just take gun and kill innocent people in poradic shooting. They will excuse it away and give it a gigantic psychatric name.