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Pastor AIO:
What's the frustration? Couldn't you follow the argument?

ochukoccna:
The first time I had my doubts was when I heard him say Christ was not resurrected by God's Spirit
Blasphemy!

joyuchesun:
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Does anyone here belong to a church that should be commended for what it is doing?[/b]

Barr rich:
Section 427 of the Criminal Code thus makes receiving anything which has been obtained through the commission of crime also a crime. It is immaterial that the property was not obtained through such a crime in Nigeria. This offence is itself geared towards discouraging stealing and protection of property. Under the Penal Code receiving stolen property is covered by section 316.

Aletheia,


The important elements here are that, you must have ‘received’ the property in question and also have ‘knowledge’ of the fact that the property so received was stolen.

According to you:
The claims that he did not know that the goods in question were stolen falls flat, because it is clearly established that this was brought to his attention:
how?
You quoted this:
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In Agada’s letter to Oyakhilome made available to Newswatch, he informed the pastor formally that he removed funds belonging to Sheraton Hotel to the tune of N39 million. He said he used the money for “various projects and seeding and blessing of brethren in the church without due authorisation from my organisation.
 
As a reasonable man that you claim to be, you should know that whatever letter the said Mr. Agada had written to Pastor Chris couldn't have come at the same time as when he was giving the said money to the Church, from which a reasonable man can safely infer that the church had knowledge of the fact that the money was stolen. 
You should know that the said letter was written after he had given the money and maybe subsequently arrested by the police. 
So your argument that Pastor Chris is deemed to have had knowledge that the money was stolen flies over the face of every reasonable person.

In the same vein, knowledge that the property is stolen is required before you can be guilty of the offence. You will however be deemed to have such knowledge if judging from circumstances of the case, a reasonable man ought to have suspected the property in question to have been stolen, for example where the property in question is sold at a ridiculously low price. See R. v. Braimah (1943) W.A.C.A. 197.

According to you:
Moreover Chris Oyakhilome can. . .be deemed to have such knowledge if judging from circumstances of the case, a reasonable man ought to have suspected the property in question to have been stolen. Certainly common sense not to talk of the Holy Spirit would have told Chris that as a cashier with no visible other source of income, Agada certainly could not be in a position to afford such "sowing". A genuine pastor will ask questions but the greedy and rapacious lupine that is Chris deliberately and willfully ignored this.

I have told you before that according to the Bible our riches are not supplied by the job we do, but by Christ Jesus.
What do you mean by a genuine pastor?
I can tell you that a genuine pastor is the Pastor that believes in miracles for his members not the one that will tell his members during offering time to line up with their offerings and begin to question the source of their income. Thank you.

aletheia:
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Joagbaje has been reduced to personal insults on this thread. . .seeing that he can not bamboozle his way out of the fact that his god Chris Oyakhilome is a thief.

plaetton:
This is laughable.
In your bible, there are countless instances where yahweh punished the jews for abandoning him to worship other gods like Baal, Ashoret, Lilith(the queen of heaven),Dogon,

2buff:
Why don't folk read their bibles?
Why do people (even pastors in sermons) keep saying Paul was the one that saw the 3rd heaven?

If y'all actually read that chapter you'll see he's actually talking about the accounts of SOMEONe ELSE i.e "a man was reported to go to the 3rd heaven, whether it is truth or not, God knows, . . . etc" He never said HE did.

Gaggi:
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What the good pastor later said was that we should serve God both in the rain and in the sun. He forgot to tell us why the rain did not obey him.

plaetton:
@frosbel;
You see what I'm always talking about. Junk here, junk there, junk junk junk.
Yet everyday, you desperately try to sell to us in this forum that religion is good and christianity is best.
I have never seen any ohter religion or philosophy or creed that stinks so much with fraud, exploitation and evil.

plappville:
I was wondring why there was nothing mentioned about what Lazarus saw during this 4 days afterlife.
Of course, His family and friends must have learned something about his journey to heaven and back, If u were to be Lazarus's friend or family, what would u ve asked him? The bible is silent about what he saw.

Revolva:
we can suspect that Jesus studied Buddhist teachings while growing up, think the bible did not tell you where jesus spend his growing up days from childhood til he was 30 something years old,

frosbel:
I feel very sad to write about this, but by “Nigerian religious junk” I mean the phenomenon of churches that are personal-to-holder. They exalt the personality of their founding father, who is still alive somewhere in Nigeria (or elsewhere) and is treated with the aura of a state president or paramount chief