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IRserveMyComent:
Keep confusing yourself,but you can't confuse me. I AM A LIVING SOUL!

Of course you are but now the problem arise when you think that your soul is another formless needless and infinite nothing that will live On somewhere after you are dead

Rilwayne001:
I agree! However I would have change my view.

LOL i was expecting this, how funny you didn't disappoint bro, i am also expecting annunaki2 to also make such far from reality comment, we all know it's a big fat lie

You would have been emotionally attached to Christianity like you are to Islam now, and as a christian would have been deriding the Islam faith while blinded to the inconsistencies of yours. .

This is not totally going to be true. The same can be said of you. Had it been you were born up north, you would have been a Muslim without ever having any thought to disbelief in the existence of God, do you agree?

Surely enough i agree i would have been a Muslim but i think study has shown that people with belief and people without one (like myself ) make use of different parts of their brain.

Sceptics use the analytic part while believers utilize the intuitive part, so having been an analytic thinker all my life religion never really was compatible with my nature.

So if i was a Muslim i still would have become atheistic though it might have taken much longer than i it took me now cus i see Muslims are more stoic in their convictions and also the fear of societal reaction to such radical apostasy having seen instances of apostate killings or the one his relatives chained in a psychiatric home in Nigeria when he left the muslim faith and became atheistic.

Or it would have been impossible if i never went to school and met such a fine love in Science and empirical knowledge.

I didn't chose it in the first place but now, I have chosen it. So I have the right to defend that I have chosen.

The first indoctrination made your belief more like your default mode, you didn't really choose it now cus you never left it in the first place.

So you still never chose it but more like riding on the waves of the effects of your indoctrination as a Child.

So i think it's highly misplaced to spend your life defending that which you never chose for yourself in the first place.

Sarassin:
No sir. In fact, the writing style is completely different from that of Paul, additionally the leading themes of the letter are absent from all of Paul’s other letters, and the method of argument bears no relation to Paul’s other writings. And why would you think Paul wrote it? Unlike Paul’s own writings, the book of Hebrews is anonymous. There is no reason to think that Paul wrote Hebrews, it was only included in the canon because church fathers argued that it “seemed” like a work Paul could have done.

Does he even know what 'Paul's writing style' is? to start with... He doesn't so don't expect any reasonable objective discussion here.

None of you ever chose your religion, it was given to you by your parents.. Same goes for Christians.

If Rilwayne001 was born here in the East by Eastern parents he's likely to be a Christian, If annunaki2 was born in the far north or south west by Muslim parents he surely would have been a muslim and that is the plain truth.

and if this was the case the position you both hold as regard Islam vs Christianity would have been the reverse... Religion is almost certainly a result of a geographical point of origin.

None of you chose your religion, why then would you spend all your life defending something you never chose in the first place?

Naijaboy007:
Pluto is not really a planet, it a giant rock made of ice


What is this planet X pls give clearer explanation as this is my first time hearing of it

It's a hypothetical planet ... It was hypothesized just like neptune was detected through gravitational effects.

-Neptune was not first discovered in picture, they were slight distortion in the orbit of Uranus and scientists hypothesized that a body of decent gravitational effect was the cause thus 'Neptune... Was confirmed later in pictures by telescopes..

So the trans-neptunian object dubbed planet X is a hypothetical planet issued to explain the perturbation of the ice-giants orbits but calculations suggest this might be due to Neptunes Mass.

So generally the scientific body do not accept such a planet exists, its just wild speculation

LoJ:
How did I miss this post? It never appeared to my mentions. Following. Coming back to comment when I got some free time.

welcome boss ... seat back and relax

LoJ:
I like the idea of this thread. I was delighted to read the posts. I am eagerly waiting for the next installments.
In the meantime, let me express some general idea on the universe.

I personaly think most religions/mythologies came from the observation of the cosmos and the curiosity it generated. When I was very young I used to gaze for very long at the sky at night and observe the stars. I would try to differentiate them according to their bright, according to constellations, or according to the feeling they aroused within me.

Many religious characters seem to be the expression of the character of some star. There was this star, when I would see it, it would remind me of Zeus and power and Authority. There was this other star, I had the impression it was always close to me. I later discovered it was the Big Dipper asterism.

I think there is much to learn from nature in general, and from the stars.

You are right boss, i intend to throw more light on this fact through the journey of this thread.

'Superstition' arose as a means to answer questions bugging the mind of man, so superstition is a child of enquiry which evolved into what we now know as Science.

Science and superstition **from whence religion came** maybe consonants but science emerged from superstition as a means of deduction.

the only reason why they are now consonant to each other is because 'science' evolved past that stage... 'Natural selection' is a factor of natural evolution.

In intellectual evolution i'd like to coin out the word 'intellectual selection' as a determining factor to ideas that survives and evolve...

so 'intellectual selection in coincide with empiricism fueled the evolution and separation of science from superstition.

with this thread i intend to shine a light on this development and history

stephenmorris:
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Here is one thing i noticed that is prevalent amongst all Christians and i mean all, they always have the 'persecuted victim's mindset'

That is to say even when they are the majority when they are the people leading even when they are the ones persecuting others, they will be the ones shouting 'persecution' for christ.

Everything that doesn't agree with them is persecution...

They think they have a divine mandate to throw their beliefs anyhow they want, but when someone else rejects or refutes these beliefs it is persecution and they complain and wish to take away that right to criticism.

-How many atheist threads have you ever seen on NL front page
-how many of them have you even seen on the trending page.

No atheist complains about these facts or accuse seun or lalasticlala or other mods of being biased or discriminating against atheist? Nobody does that not one.

but christian threads make front page in their numbers almost everyday and every sunday it's almost like 50% of front page materials are Christian posts yet amazingly Christians are the ones always complaining that NL is biased and discriminative against Christiandom...

it's just amazing

Christians do not complain because they don't have equal rights as others rather they complain only when they are not given More rights than others or the rights to persecute others.

uncjay:
Hoping at the end of the day to finally grasp the theme of the this work.....


First question though: isn't it more proper for this work to be in the science section than religion? It looks more scientific to me...

I wanted to put it up in the science section but i wanted to reach a much broader target but putting it up here is still not misplaced as it is aimed at setting straight the evolutionary journey of man's enquiry of which ofcourse cannot be seperated from superstition hence religion.

it's a broad thread that i intend to touch both the scientific, philosophical and theological roles in the intellectual evolution of man but also while at it try and teach much about our universe as we now know.

Mods on here (not completely sure) do not really appreciate threads by atheists in religion section to get to broader audience which is ur target.

This is not really about atheism. I have no intent of using this to plead the atheist course unless 'science' is seen as an atheist tool which i doubt it is.

KingEbukasBlog:
Whatever the bible says is true

LOL.. I'm sure it is

KingEbukasBlog:
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Decker , you ain't free , rather you are a slave to the will of the devil whatever the bible says is true .

This i can say is very laughable and naive, the acceptance of an answer invoking an unsupported answer as an absolute truth unminding of what so ever is true..

this one can see is major problem with beliefs on superstitions and an employment of theological dishonesty that persist on a preconcieved stance as truth no matter what is true.

here emotions is put up in place of truth with nothing but personal belief as a basis.

This is something prevalent with Christian and Islamic apologetics.

In discussion it is not so much weight of authority as force of argument that should be demanded.

Indeed, the authority of those who profess to teach is often a positive hindrance to those who desire to learn; they cease to employ their own judgment, and take what they perceive to be the verdict of their chosen master as settling the question.

In fact I am not disposed to approve or respect the practice conventionally ascribed to Christians/muslims and more broadly the linear practise of theology, who, as you all has shown here when questioned as to the grounds of any assertion that they advanced in debate, are always likely to have been accustomed to reply ‘The bible/quran said so and what ever the bible/Quran said must or is true'.

So potent was an opinion already decided, making authority prevail unsupported by reason.

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SOLAR SYSTEM CONTINUED..


Asteroid belt
We propel on from the mean Mars and encounter the Asteroid belt, a treacherous zone rock debris, dust collected enormously in their own orbit.

This belt lies between the orbits of Jupiter and Mars, a sad look into the history of the solar system.

Here in lies remnants of a massive catastrophe, here lies the remains of a violent event, a grave yard for a destroyed planet or planets.

The asteroid belt may have been formed from a strong collision between two massive planetary bodies probably during the early stage of the young solar system leaving behind large stones as well as small ones in varying sizes and shapes littering the zone.

the only mini-planet in the inner solar system lies in this zone, Ceres we call it. A small world, an asteroid really but a curious world of stones of it's own beautiful and treacherous.

Jupiter and it's moons

Now across the asteroid belt we plunge further into the darkness of the void approaching that which is regarded the King of the planets.

Jupiter in all it's majesty and size paying homage to a greedy accumulation of matter during it's formation.

Jupiter is basically a giant ball of gas with a hard solid core, windy and turbulent, the history of Stars and planets mentioned earlier are not any different.

Stars can be referred as planetary bodies that accumulated enough interstellar matter for their core to ignite a thermonuclear reaction, so planets also due to accumulation of these interstellar matter are just stars that didn't get enough.

The closest being the biggest planets, Jupiter is an example of a near star formation that didn't happen.

If Jupiter had gotten more matter and massive during the formation of the solar system it would have possibly gotten to a stage where nuclear fusion is triggered and hydrogen begins to burn in it's core thus birthing a smaller star.

We would have been in a double star star system with no night even will come in sight as two stars will beam down their rays on us, life would have evolve much differently on earth than it is now.

But alas Jupiter is just a star that never happened.

The huge king of the planets have rings typical of another gas giant saturn though Jupiters is less likely noticed that the flamboyant one of saturn.

Hydrogen, methane, nitrogen present in the Jovian world reacting to sunlight beaming down reddish brown bright colour into the cosmos, the same matter that gave life to earth gives Jupiter it's bright reddish brown colour.

No wonder Jupiter is named after the King of all Roman Gods, it has has that unparalleled greed that accompanies human Gods. Jupiter has locked within the reach of it's gravity 67moons.

67 worlds orbiting this planet of which the best of their kind are the 4gelilean moons Io, europa, Ganymede and callisto.

huge worlds that may possess a liquid ocean beneath their ice rocky surfaces due to tidal heating from their massive radioactive host planet.

the Jovian system is basically a different system of it's own trapped in the reach of a much bigger force [sun].

Homage to the king of the planets we pass the orbits of Jupiter and head on to

Saturn

A treacherous world of it's own, big and beautiful with a distinguishing feature found in it's big ring -which is made up tiny dust and water crystals orbiting the planet at differential relative speed at different level.

From earth saturn more or less looks like a planet with ears, a feature that baffled early astronomers since the advent of crude telescopes used to peer at the sky.

The rings of Saturn and Jupiter provide us instances on the first nature of the solar system, all the matter that has accumulated and evolved into planets and moons were once a ring system around an infant sun blowing out violently in it's excited yawn of getting into a cosmic field.

With time these solar interstellar matter condensed to form smaller unfortunate stars which we recognize as planets.

The rings of saturn and Jupiter lend words to to this and the fate of the martian moon straying further into the Martian grip to be torn apart by martian gravity earning mars it's own ring soon in the timeline of the cosmic play.

so these rings rather unfortunate moons that didn't form or ones that strayed to near and got shrouded.

the moons of saturn number up to 60 of more with the biggest both in the park of saturnian moons or all the moons of the solar system being Titan.

Titan is a remarkable moon, a strong candidate for our quest for life else where in the cosmos. posses own radioactive way of internal heating, traces of black organic molecules has been detected and these molecules experiments of primordial earth period has shown also were in the early stages of emergence of life on earth.

We cannot readily dismiss Titan but the torch of empiricism will be handed over if we land a robotic probe on the surface of Titan and probe for proof or nature of these organic molecules.


Uranus and Neptune

Two giant blue worlds of ice and rock, among the categories of Gas giants but also peculiarly dubbed Ice-giants.

these two big worlds are twin-like in appearance and characteristics, both full of ice and a little pinch of rocks.

Neptune having being detected theoretically before ever being seen first by a telescope by noticing the wobbly nature of Uranus orbits.

Pluto

Further we head out more past the neptunian zone and plunge into the outskirts of the system where the Trans-neptunian objects lurk.

A small beautiful world pluto seats and stands out in this regard, a small mini-planet with a moon almost same it's size. the strangest relationship of a moon and planet in the solar system known in terms of size of the moon in contrast to it's host planet.

Pluto is a rocky world with the data of the New Horizon probe that reached earth far from deep space, small and cold but has more rocks than previously thought so now being dubbed among the rocky worlds alongside Mercury, venus, earth, mars.

Further past Pluto and Charon it's ever lovely moon of same size we depart far into the outer worlds of the trans-neptunian objects.

where we find small worlds like
Make-make
sedna
eris
Haume
2007 or 10

and recently and most curiously a gravitational anomaly is suggesting the existence of a planetary body as large as neptune lurking deep in the darkness of the outskirts of the solar system.

same kind gravitational effect on other orbits from whence Neptune was theoretized before being found.

the said planet X, it's my sincere hope that a telescope imaging gives illumination to it's actuality and true nature and a name can be hewn from it ridding it of the (X) symbol of unknown it now bears...

Here the worlds dance around each other and a sun in an invisible string music of the reaching gravity singing the tunes for the worlds.

If there is a supreme being that claims supreme power and unlimited abilities i expect it should be able to do his dirty jobs himself.

It is completely irrational to stand in as a voice speaking for a being who supposedly should be easily able to do that himself even more so irrational to carry out charges against others on the express commands of the alleged supreme beings.

If a supreme being really wants to kill someone, he should go right ahead and do it if he's able to not call on humans to do it.

If a supreme being frowns at two people having sex what is stopping him from just telling them himself "hey i don't like this, stop it"

But it is always humans, always has been and always will be humans doing the talking, killings and struggles for the alleged all powerful Gods who still cannot still seem to escape the pages of a book or old tales.

God(s) seem helpless without man..

Demmzy15:
As clearly pointed out by the op, it's not the religion. It's the adherents who are mostly ignorant, Islam has a religion has nothing to do with them!

What is a religion if not the adherents, Religion is an idea and it thrives on the adherents remove the adherents of a religion and you are left with nothing...

There is one remarkable thing i noticed about the Islamic religion, A muslim would argue forever that Islam is a religion of peace and he can prove that to you either by killing himself or killing you.

THE SOLAR SYSTEM


As a observe for my own pleasure the to and fro movement of the heavens, i no longer stand on the earth with my feet but in the presence of Zeus himself and take my fill of the waters of Ambrosia.
Hellenistic Greek scientist and philosopher 'Ptolemy' on celestial motions

This was the exact words of the brilliant Ptolemy as he observed the skies and watched their movement. This also will be coming up as the song continues.

There is an awe to be found in the skies, not only is the sun bright and powerful and is responsible for giving us warm and bright day time it journeys across the sky with the passage of time, as a matter of fact our measurement of 'time' is directly as a result of the sun.

The stars twinkle in the nights with the moon collectively moving through the sky as the earth rotates but there are 5 curious stars in our skies that are not just moving but from time to time they change their positions in the sky. These are the planets.

There are only 5 visible planets from earth and their visibility is directly in respect to their position in the course of their orbit with the earth's.

Mercury
Venus
Mars
Jupiter
Saturn

these for many thousands of years were the only planets known to the past humans in the journey of their sciences and intellectual development.

Here is a Solar system with a staggering number of worlds numbering in their hundreds of which we can only visit a few of these numbers in our celestial journey of the mind through the system.


The sun
Stars and planets around them do not most times have different histories from each other, there all are born in a simultaneous way though the first point of order always is the infant star whose birth triggers the formation of sibling celestial objects.

In the chief position of the solar system seats the Sun, sol. A remarkable middle aged star shinning bright with a little more of the yellow spectrum.

With a staggering 98-99% of all the masses in the solar system the sun is the engine of the system, the energy of the whole cast as it blows out turbulent solar winds, radiation and radioactivities.

The stars basically are planetary bodies that has enough matter and mass for their core to become hot enough to ignite thermonuclear reaction therefore becoming an independent source of enormous energy.

No wonder through the course of human history man could never deny the importance of this chief character in our cosmic dance of worlds, man has come to humbly realize that his life is directly dependent on this hot ball of light in the sky and later on that without even this light life could never have existed here in the first place.

so there is no telling the importance of this object, little wonder man has always deified and worshipped the sun as the giver of light or has seen it as a projection of the cosmological creator.
Like the Igbos deep in the heart land of tropical Africa recognize the sun (Anyanwu) as a direct manifestation for their idea of a supreme cosmological causer (Chukwu).

Mercury

Here our journey stops within the orbital reach of mercury, a small world not bigger than the earth is but has accreted too close to the sun and is subjected to intense heat and unparalleled radiation.

As a matter of fact as it stands now is the smallest object considered a planet we know of now.

In the system mercury is the fastest of the planets in orbit, completing one orbit in a staggering 88 days.

**but the speed of mercury should not come as a surprise, following Johannes Kepler's observations on gravitational effect, the effect is gravity diminishes as it's reach widens. So the closer objects are more affected than the farther one**

No wonder man gave Mercury the nomenclature of the Roman messenger God, a God whose enterprise depended on the speed of his delivery, carrying information to and fro to man and back to the Gods and back again.

Mercury has no atmosphere, a naked world with nothing to protect it from the cruelty of the uncaring intense sun, so it's basically a so hot a world that our toughest of space craft still won't last 2 seconds inside the planet.

And we journey on sailing in the void after mercury heading nearer home and we meet

Venus

A world of clouds, Venus is a curious world one always recognized as the twin sister of earth as both are almost certainly the same size.

they have never been any observation of the interiors of Venus because the planet is completely immense in thick sulphuric acid clouds that spans through the entirety of it's bounds.

We however are in concord that Venus is another rocky world like Mercury even though this feature is shielded from the eyes, tearing through the fabrics of space around the sun at an orbital period of 224 days and a rotational period of 243 days.

Venus orbits the sun faster than it spins in it's axis that is a very strange world indeed.

If you were on Venus the 'day' would be longer than the 'year'.

Venus is one of the brightest objects known to us in our night sky, gleaming so bright that our ancestors called it.

The morning sun or Lucifer in latin.

Because of venus thick covering clouds it reflect enough sunlight back into space to appear so bright that if mercury was as close to us as our moon we wouldn't have dark nights when it's out, our nights would look more or less like an evening.

We journey after Venus to the blue world

Earth
The jewel of them all i like to call her, i am inclined to be a little chauvinistic on my definition of planetary beauty that it had to be defined so the earth would always be number one for me.

This is home, we evolved and grew here, we die and are scattered back elementally to the constituents of the cosmic arena.

Approaching the earth you cannot help but notice it's brilliant blue colour with smattering pinch of white clouds covering unstably here and there.

A bright world it is owing it's blue colour to the vast liquid ocean that thrives on it, seats on a position that is amongst all the planets the best for the existence of water in liquid state and so has this in abundance.

No wonder to the ancient greeks earth took the person of beautiful erotic kind and abundantly fertile Goddess, Gaia.

In it thrives countless 'things' considered beings amongst them humans of who has taken it upon themselves to escape her bonds and peep out through her chains to see what lay after.

The earth perch gracefully in the dark void of space like a tiny blue marble travelling like others around the sun with also another world perpetually wedded to it.

the moon

Lunar we call her is another world, spherical and almost as dark as coal borrowed some reflective ability by the intense brightness of a huge sun.

this world is perpetually condemned to be wedded to earth in an orbital cosmic dance and has a general effect on both the earth's evolution and even values that lurks within like the ocean.

Mars

On approaching Mars his red face looks back, as we get closer we can make out features on it's rusted iron soil.

Mars is a rocky world with a thin atmosphere, lacks a magnetic field and so it subjected to an uncaring blow from solar winds and radiation, a cold world but the closest to the earth-like condition you can get in the solar system.

Mars has remarkable features that betrays the events of it's history and evolution.

Mountains and ridges, cliffs and eroded channels whispering that long in the history of mars there was once more or less enough water on Mars like we now have on earth, a rich thick atmosphere that would have made it more home-like.

what ever happened to that, i wonder.

Mars has polar ice in it's poles maybe of ice-methane, probably responsible for the recently detected season water flows on mars, the highest mountain in the solar system 'Olympic Mons' seats here, a mountain so great that the everest seems only but an infant before it.

Being just in the cosmic backyard of Man, mars always has been an attracting call to man which he has started to answer in the numerous space crafts he has sent to mars to study the world and give him results of which we now have inside view of the planet and possibly soon by October the ESA probe and robotic lab that will descend into the surface of mars would help look beneath the soil if any form of organic molecules or life form lurked within.

Mars soon will be receiving the very first human foot print sooner than we may think...

Continues ......

IN THE BEGINNING
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Dwell on the beauty of life. Watch the stars, and see yourself running
with them. – Marcus Aurelius


The birth of man's enquiry which lead to superstition, beliefs, philosophy, mythologies and ultimately science as we know it all started from the little twinkling lights gracing our skies with their large and near bright parents. The stars, moon and sun to be precise.

Man's enquiry of the worlds and his position in it or them arose because we remarkably woke up in a world that had a transparent sky from which these curious lights could reach us, from this point being lost in our marvel of the strange lights we see when the sky is dark and cold or the powerful one responsible for our brighter and warmer days.

In us awoke a curiosity, a hunger and a severe thirst to understand or know how it all began.

First the song was for the world as we know it but as reason grew and questions got deeper it became a 'Song of the worlds'.

In the beginning

Before the Heavens had been named Before the Earth below had been named None but APSU The All-Father, Oldest of Beings And MUMMU-TIAMAT Mother who bore them, Existed.

Their Waters merged into One; There were no fields or marshes Before any GODS came into being. The Powers had no Names Their Destinies had not been Fixed. The GODS were then created Within the Waters of APSU-TIAMAT.
(Enema Elish : Babylonian creation myth)

In the beginning when God made the heavens and the earth, the earth was formless and void, and darkness was upon the face of the deep and the spirit of God hovered over the waters.
(Bible, Genesis; Jewish creation myth)

There are thousands if not tens of thousands of creation myths found in every culture through out the earth, these tales of elegant poetry dating back thousands of years back.

Most of these ancient tales of cosmogony seemingly always paints out a universe, a cosmos directly out of Chaos.

From the wikipedia encyclopedia source on chaos it says.


[" In creation from chaos myth, initially there is nothing but a formless, shapeless expanse. In these stories the word "chaos" means "disorder", and this formless expanse, which is also sometimes called a void or an abyss, contains the material with which the created world will be made.

Chaos may be described as having the consistency of vapor or water, dimensionless, and sometimes salty or muddy. These myths associate chaos with evil and oblivion, in contrast to "order" ( cosmos ) which is the good.

The act of creation is the bringing of order from disorder, and in many of these cultures it is believed that at some point the forces preserving order and form will weaken and the world will once again be engulfed into the abyss. "]

The songs of the world(s) were being sang, imaginations were being bugged and trickled and rationalization was taking man on a jolly ride all through a small point in the sky, a tear in a dark envelop.

Chaos beget the worlds.

Back in these eras when the human technology was no much more advanced than the crude technologies we may now attribute to monkeys.

A raw configuration of available materials, stones and sticks into deadly weapons aimed at promoting survival but within this simplistic configuration a world full of events thrived, a world of strange order etched within a soaring disorderly events.

In his leisure time away from the hunting streaks of survival, the manual labours for protection man must have started asking questions.

-Why do i walk on two legs but the animals we hunt and eat use four?

-why do i have limbs but the snakes don't?

-why is it that the skies always rumbles furiously with bright fast flashes while it weeps?

-what is that big fiery circle of light that brightens the morning and what about the dimmer, calmer one that ruled the night.

-what about the little ones sparkling and blinking, could they be the children of these other two greater lights?

-how come they always journey through the sky in an unending loop?

Many of such a questions might have bugged mankind, the new species of highly intricate neurological capabilities, a strange perception and curiosity driven by the uncaring craftiness of nature.

They had questions but where were the answers?

How sufficient would these answers be and how deep were these answers ?

But remarkably this might be recognized as the birth of science not modern science as we know it but it is directly in a collective generalization is directly responsible for our science as we now recognize it.

A primordial stage in the evolution of science.

Many would think that superstitions and science are irreconcilable opposites, rivals in a world mesh of ideas but that i would argue is wrong.

Superstition was a very shouty stage in the evolution of what we now call science.

Let us bear in mind that while in this age, superstition is consonants with the ideas of science, it is none the less an elder sibling to the established discipline of science as they are both children of one parent which is Philosophy…

_Philosophy is a projection of human enquiry, a leap of the mind into the unknown trying to resolve the known to merge with the unknowns that may lurk within, and so Philosophy birthed more of questions that it ever had ever given an answer.

And this philosophical insolubles gave birth to the path ways of their answers, approaches employed for their satisfaction and thus superstition was birthed first as an offshoot of a naturalistic troubling problem and thus has evolved through the course of human history, science slowly evolved from within, speculations began to arose more often leading to disagreement and arguments and the need for substantiation became dire thus empiricism was spiced into the deductive means and science was born.

the songs of the world are being sang.

As man poked and thought about these questions with no tools other than his wits, perception and thoughts.

He was sadly limited, unforgiven by fate as he had not the means to stretch his perception above the reach of a tree, bound to the earth as if he could never escape with nothing to explore the universe of which to him was a remote lone large expanse though drastically smaller in contrast to our deductions now.

Early man had nothing to explore the heavens that awed him except his eyes and mind, with his mind he travelled above the skies to peek at the stars.

-In some thoughts the stars were little fire flies perching in the skies unable to move though some of them at a point would escape the bond and move.

-some rather thought there were small fires far far away

-some imagined the sky as a skin covering the earth within a fire burning through out the other side of the skin and holes made in this cover from which the lights of this great fire escaped.

Thoughts were singing the cosmic songs even though with limited instruments to play but nature itself was playing a very loud instrument man could not ignore.

We will eventually go much deeper into this in the course of this little work, but let this be an introduction to the string instrument of the songs of the worlds.

Targeting a broader audience i intend to bring to light a little work of mine, Call it a long road to science and reason.

This is going to be a long ride, refreshing to read and will be mind stretching in a philosophical way.

This will be a bread of man's historical philosophy to be eaten with a butter of science which will be carefully approached with a very funny comprehensive and easily understood language of breaking down the scientific riches to be explained within.

Through the course of this i do not hope to attack any person's belief or religion and so even though this will touch greatly the superstitious, belief and mystical part of human enquiry it will be watered down with soothing balms of a sorely scientific intent aimed at enlightenment with a broader horizons.

We are all students of life, passengers of earth and awe stricken candidates of nature.

It is my sincere hope that this be taken sorely as it is, purely a philosophical and scientific coffee of revealing that about the cosmos, humanity and science as we yet know them.

This is not a ground to be turned into a battle field of emotional squabbles or battle for the superiority of conflicting ideas.

I'm certainly not here for that so if you are looking for a place for that, i'd suggest another thread.

I hope to learn more through the course of this journey ....

Links to find submissions faster..

IN THE BEGINNING

THE SOLAR SYSTEM

SOLAR SYSTEM CONTINUED

FIRE OF THE GODS (advent of man's intellectual evolution)

FIRE OF THE GODS continued

joseph1013:
I just finished reading Elon Musk's interesting words in this article: http://www.vox.com/2016/6/2/11837608/elon-musk-simulation-argument

In summary, he concludes that the 21st century humans are living in a simulation environment developed by post humans who have undergone very advanced civilizations.

What do you think?

That is a rather radical conspiracy if you ask me, first it would be that everything we are, will be or ever will be is but a programme running in a kind of advanced OS, our reality more or less a mirage in a simulation.

That then appeals to reason that these post humans must be lurking somewhere elusive to this simulating reality watching us like some 3D characters on their made 3D simulators.

More like we are the characters in a video game.

Through out the course of human history, radical ideas and thoughts and scary 'what if's' has bugged us, still bug us and forever will.

As radical as this idea is let us not readily dismiss it as an invalid argument, but such a radical leap must be based on something substantial.

In this case i suggest Musk break us out from the Matrix as Morpheus broke Neo out and then try telling us this story again.

ichommy:

LOL Apparently the religion section has been degraded to a severe trolling unit, you guys are just throwing memes up and down

KingEbukasBlog:

LOL OK

UyiIredia:
I'm flattered that you'd call me but I'm sorry I won't be contributing because I'm not interested in the topic. Hopefully I will contribute on another thread of yours some other time.

Aaaaaaw sad enough, i was hoping on getting a cosmological or philosophical question or submissions on your personal views of the cosmos or human societal philosophy.

Or things you'd like to know or is confused about on Astronomy or Astrophysics, we could solve and have an intense enlightening good discussion on them.

Anyway it's all good brother, hoping to see you if any pops into your head soon or on my next thread on the science section.

'Songs of the worlds' it will be a fun way of painting a very clear light of man's philosophical and scientific intellectual evolution based mostly on the Science part of it but will be in a very story like simple form that all can relate to.

Let me also invite a friend to join our forum. . Cc. UyiIredia ... Come and Join us, we entertain any questions based on your view of the cosmos, questions on astronomy, astrophysics, cosmology and philosophical questions. .

KingEbukasBlog:
Atheism is now strongly considered as a religion , you might want to revisit the veracity of your dumb pic

KingEbukasBlog:
Some atheists can be religious too , so I heard . However that fits in should be applied here

Habaaa for goodness sake please always seek to learn before talking, i do not know how you can always manage to keep a straight face with these naive assertions.

this is not a talk down but let me at least try to teach this simple thing...

Theism --- Belief in Gods (This is not a religion)
Atheism ---- Disbelief in Gods (this is not a religion)

Christianity/Islam ----- Theistic religion (A religion with a core value and belief in a deity)
Taoism/Jainism ----- broadly Atheistic religion (A religion without a key pointer or center basis deity )..

So someone can be a theist and not be religious while someone can be an atheist and be religious.

Religiousity is neither atheism/theism both stops at Disbelief/belief in God(s).

So when next you say 'Atheism' is a religion, it is sadly as naive as saying 'theism' is a religion.

There is no religion called 'theism' neither can they ever be such a religion, theism is just a label for 'belief in personal God(s) and so too is the atheistic position, these are positions of beliefs/disbeliefs cannot or ever can be regarded a religion.

But a 'religion' can be formed on the basis of these positions but both as an independent general position is not and can never be a religion.

Let me hope this goes down well and helps clears you and every other reading this on this naive misconceptions.

Buhari has seen something, i swear in his next life if them dash Buhari Nigeria to rule in an era such as this, he will pick his slippers and run to Zimbabwe.

But honestly Buhari is outdated for a 21st century nation

Onogiede:
Ooh God in heaven remember me when u want to collect ur people,..lord have mercy for we sinners

Jeeeez.. i weak for you guys!!! Seriously need to collect your brains back from superstition, blind beliefs and God

Why we have been fighting tooth and nail to see if we can promote scientific knowledge for the African youths atleast here on nairaland cus seeing threads like this with nonsensical ignorant captions from the mod(s) and likewise pitiable comments wreaking on superstition imbedded in stark ignorance.

You can't help but entertain a rightly placed sadness for the African mind and society seeing such primitive show in a 21st century like Africans still stuck in a time the world has moved past long ago.

Geysers or probably a water pipe burst just turned mysterious rain from village people in Africa/miracle!!! habaa nawa oo

sonOfLucifer:
Said Jesus.

"I am the way, the truth and the life" Said Johnydon.

What's the difference between the two claims.

-The former is long dead the latter is still very much alive and actually wrote it himself

HCpaul:
Mathematics is a language, a language of science, engineering and technology. It is not the language of the universe but just an expression of scientific models.

I love this.... 'A human lingual expression that is '

InesQor:
Always better to have an opinion, know where you stand, and be able to clearly express it - even if it is constantly shifting; THAN to hide all your thoughts from scrutiny just so that you can tear down that of others.

I agree.. that is why discussions are always better than arguments...

People mostly argue here with invectives, emotion and clear cut fallacies all because arguments are always about 'who is right' so it doesn't matter what is true or not just twist things to suit your position or stance.

Discussions on the other hand is about 'what is right/true' and in this open mindedness is needed and the egoistic need to be right is thrown off the board.

Join our Cosmological and Philosophical forum (thread) in the science section where we discuss things related to cosmology, philosophy and other related science disciplines of the heavens.

Check my profile

Cc. lalasticlala mynd44 can you help us shift this to the 'Trending' page please to get more audience, not the 'front page' just the trending page.

Inviting PastorAIO..